Having been out tonight in what I class to be my home town I am ashamed.

I went to watch The Scotland v Italy match in Walkabout as I do not have Sky TV to watch it on, I was faced by a barrage of abuse including 'go home, go home' amoungst many other may I add. I feel this is unacceptable regarding the multi-cultural society that we live in and if they had been commenting in the colour of our skin action would have been taken immediatley!!!!!!

Sheffield people, you should be ashamed of yourself!!!!! (even if it is a minority!)

It's not right, but have you ever been in a Scottish pub when England are playing? Exactly the same attitude from many Scots towards any English people who happen to be there.

Having been out tonight in what I class to be my home town I am ashamed.

I went to watch The Scotland v Italy match in Walkabout as I do not have Sky TV to watch it on, I was faced by a barrage of abuse including 'go home, go home' amoungst many other may I add. I feel this is unacceptable regarding the multi-cultural society that we live in and if they had been commenting in the colour of our skin action would have been taken immediatley!!!!!!

Sheffield people, you should be ashamed of yourself!!!!! (even if it is a minority!)

Sorry to hear that m8, i for one wanted scotland to win, and im english! i must say that the SCOTS were robbed of at least a draw!

I lived in the South West of Scotland for 6 years and had to listen to that sort of crap every day.
I remember a headline in a scottish newspaper declaring 'what we all knew all along...England is built on a pile of s**t', it was a reference to someone discovering the white cliffs of Dover are formed out of shrimp droppings or something.
The hatred of 'the English' is rife up there so do what i did, get over it, it's well known that Scots support any team that plays against England.
Remember the primary school that had a 'Brazil day' when Brazil knocked England out or the world cup? nothing like teaching your 'weans' how to be racist eh.
I was cheering Italy on, so perhaps i didn't get over it after all.
It's not right Lannroy but it's not just an English thing and certainly not something Sheffield should be ashamed of, just those who abused you.

Welcome to the forum btw :thumbsup:

Whilst i do not condome this attitude i honestly believe there are many more english sports fans who would support Scotland than scottish fans who would support England.

Me and all my pals were in support of Scotland and am sad to see them out of Euro 2008 but I don't know any Scot who will be wishing England all the best next wednesday (and i do know plenty of scots)

Whilst i do not condome this attitude i honestly believe there are many more english sports fans who would support Scotland than scottish fans who would support England.

Me and all my pals were in support of Scotland and am sad to see them out of Euro 2008 but I don't know any Scot who will be wishing England all the best next wednesday (and i do know plenty of scots)

I agree totally with these sentiments! What I do find odd is that this seems only unique to England/Scotland. I come from Northern Ireland and I think both camps would have wanted them to qualify.

For the record I wanted you both to qualify and I think the Scots deserved it more than the English but that's football.

as was shown on GMTV on Friday - more English supporters were likely to support Scotland than Scots supporting England.
why should we be tolerant ?

As it was The Walkabout are you sure it wasn't Aussies and Kiwis who were having a go?

Having been out tonight in what I class to be my home town I am ashamed.

I went to watch The Scotland v Italy match in Walkabout as I do not have Sky TV to watch it on, I was faced by a barrage of abuse including 'go home, go home' amoungst many other may I add. I feel this is unacceptable regarding the multi-cultural society that we live in and if they had been commenting in the colour of our skin action would have been taken immediatley!!!!!!

Sheffield people, you should be ashamed of yourself!!!!! (even if it is a minority!)

PERSONALLY I VE NEVER NOTICED ANY SUCH RACIST BEHAVIOUR FROM ENGLISHMEN. whoops sorry was in caps lock!
however, I ve witnessed plenty of anti-english behaviour in scotland towards the english. there have been beatings, graffitti, hate campaigns and all manner of stuff especially for some odd reason, in SW scotland?. Its probably fair to say that the scottish press dont write about it much. I feel ashamed to be scottish when i hear some of the rubbish that comes out of scottish mouths.

Sorry but I agree with the majority vote!

After the abuse that The Jocks have been dishing us over the last few days, (none of it called for or fit enough to be repeated on this forum might I add) I find it odd that you can feel agreived by the response you recieved in the walkabout, It is simple retaliation for the insults from your fellow countrymen in the build up to the match, so I'm sorry i guess you were in the wrong place and maybe personally might not have deserved it but the arrogance shown by scots has been shocking and much to my amusement has back-fired in their faces!

To be fair - i dont think its a total country thing, more area - where im from (Perth) people dont seem to mind english people much - they hate all the polish that have moved there tho

Ive never really had any abuse as such for being scottish in England - well apart from people not believing me and thinking im irish

Ive been in south england plenty of times and they think yorkshire/northern people are thick inbreds, "aye up" stereo type, eg ive been there with a northern english person - and they've taken much more abuse than me!

and on final note Im not that into football these days, but scotlands put in a much better show than england.

I was in a taxi near birmingham on saturday night and there was a very intense almost raucous radio debate between an england and a scotland fan. It was quite hard to believe it wasn't being moderated because it was very on edge. Both were accusing the other of being generally immoral and uncivilised and even though I'm english I couldn't sympathise really with either side

I'm from Northern Ireland and I was gutted that Scotland didn't make it. I must say that when Northern Ireland beat England I got a round of applause at Bramall Lane when the people around me spotted the Norn Irn shirt, and people I didn't know shook my hand and congratulated me. I thought it was fantastic...but maybe something to do with footie fans affinity with an underdog?

I'm from Northern Ireland and I was gutted that Scotland didn't make it. I must say that when Northern Ireland beat England I got a round of applause at Bramall Lane when the people around me spotted the Norn Irn shirt, and people I didn't know shook my hand and congratulated me. I thought it was fantastic...but maybe something to do with footie fans affinity with an underdog?

That didn't happen to me, maybe it was something to with the fact that I kept sending emails round with Healys goal on it.:hihi:

What team did you support over there then?

I'm from Northern Ireland and I was gutted that Scotland didn't make it. I must say that when Northern Ireland beat England I got a round of applause at Bramall Lane when the people around me spotted the Norn Irn shirt, and people I didn't know shook my hand and congratulated me. I thought it was fantastic...but maybe something to do with footie fans affinity with an underdog?

Perhaps...or maybe they were all too frightened of getting armbarred :P

I'm not bothered by this casual slagging/regionalism/racism/whatever. The Scots give it out 10x worse about the English (as do the Welsh etc. etc.) so, really, the thread starter ought to remove the plank from their own eye before looking at the speck in the English eye.

Hiya Carcass, Never armbars always chokes! Titanic, I'm a huge Glentoran fan.

Having been out tonight in what I class to be my home town I am ashamed.

I went to watch The Scotland v Italy match in Walkabout as I do not have Sky TV to watch it on, I was faced by a barrage of abuse including 'go home, go home' amoungst many other may I add. I feel this is unacceptable regarding the multi-cultural society that we live in and if they had been commenting in the colour of our skin action would have been taken immediatley!!!!!!

Sheffield people, you should be ashamed of yourself!!!!! (even if it is a minority!)
why the hell should we be?
Ive been to scotland and had the same abuse from the scots..
"The English...."
Not related to william wallace are u? ;)

TO me, fair....i dont think that way, and its always the minority that spoil it for the rest of us... Live and let live.:)

Hiya Carcass, Never armbars always chokes! Titanic, I'm a huge Glentoran fan.

That makes two of us over here then:cool:, born 150 yards from the ground and went to my first game when I was about three/four against Benfica in the year they lost to Man Utd in the final. We lost on the away goals.

It's a small world Titanic and we're about the same age. I've had a season ticket at Bramall Lane for the last decade but the Glens are my team and I've followed them round europe for the past twenty five years and fly home as often as I can. Roy France who wrote 'Glentoran-the complete record' lives in Sheffield as well. We travelled together together to Cardiff to see the 2-2 draw against Wales. Took my son to his first final a couple of weeks ago when they beat the Crues in the Antrim Shield and I'm home for the boxing day game against the dirty blues (live on Sky!). Cheers, Noel

I spend a fair bit of time in Scotland and must admit I have never been slagged for being English, same with Northern and Southern Ireland. I can only say thank God we dont have any offices in Wales because they are the worst from my experience.

......I don't know any Scot who will be wishing England all the best next wednesday (and i do know plenty of scots)

Well here's one.

I even went to Nurnberg for the Trinidad & Tobago game...dressed in my Scotland World Cup 1978 Shirt...it was too hot to adorn the kilt until later in the evening...but it got an airing.


The amount of abuse I got was mostly good humoured..."Are you lost mate...." etc.

But that may be because England won...otherwise I might have been subject to something nastier, as a guy came up to me at the end and said the following (which made me LOL and thank him for his patronage...I'm not sure he knew what I meant)

"You know mate (drunken slur and arm round my shoulders)...when I first saw you I thought you were a w*****r, but now I think you are alright...."

I told him to always trust his first impression.

:hihi:

As for the abuse Scots give the English, it is ridiculously worse IMO... it smacks of insecurity, and those that offer out this abuse (including members of my own family) ought to grow up.

They are a nation (almost) standing on their own two feet, and suddenly they have no one else to blame when things go wrong political/social-wise...just get over yourselves.

As for the footy...OMG I was gutted....as Andy Gray said...if you wanted a 90 min lesson in what it is to be a Scottish fan that was it....

Huge over-sensationalised build up....

Immediate bitter disappointment....

OMG we are going to do it.....

Oh no we didn't....

Heroic losers once again.

Robbed? Perhaps not, considering Italy's disallowed goal was good and Scotland's goal off-side.....

But OMG...I was so gutted, I stopped drinking.:hihi:

:hihi:

It seems, considering the animosity that Scots show towards English folk, that Lannroy does not have a leg to stand on here. However, English football fans have always let us down - home and abroad - compared to other sports where English fans have traditionally acted in a more civilised and sporting way.

Come on football supporters let's not act like the Scots themselves - let them watch their team in peace. Rise above it.

It is just a general feeling towards the English.
I met my mate once for a beer to watch England v Nigeria in an Irish pub just off West st.
Every person to a man/woman wanted Nigeria to win and were very vocal in their hatred of England.
To which i stood up told them i was English, proud and how embarrassing it was to be so racist.
The noise level dropped my mate said sorry and then we left.
It seems if you are English you have to be tolerant of everyone and their beliefs but we are fair game.

Up the Owls - Up Scotland :hihi:

I am from up north, and have spent tim in scotland and wales, and it is fair to say that our celic brothers do gloat when england loose, but ive never come across any hatred or racism towards me, perhaps the 'dislike' of the english comes from all those years of english oppression of ireland,wales and scotland ?

But if that is the case can we english dislike the italians for the roman ocupation of our land 2000 years ago or even the Nordic countries for viking invasion, french for the Norman oppression of our forefathers? ( the list could go on but you get my point)