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neeeeeeeeeek 27-01-2005, 19:47 A friend has got a Wireless ADSL router secondhand, the Broadband modem is a standard one from Telewest / Blueyonder and has USB and RJ45 connectors on. The ADSL Router has an RJ11 connector on and came with and ADSL filter and was originally used with an ADSL connection through the phone line. Can I just get a RJ45 to RJ11 cable from somewhere and bobs your unkle or should i just get them a different wireless router. I have a 3com one and that has RJ45 on the router so was simple to connect, It's just marked cable / DSL.. I was expecting the same from theirs, not the RJ11 with ADSL written underneeth! oooo, confused!!
cheers for any info.
chillicat 27-01-2005, 20:07 Is RJ11 a mini version of RJ45 cos if so you can get a converter - one came with my laptop. I'm happy to let you have it if you want to try it.
neeeeeeeeeek 27-01-2005, 20:09 Hmm, sorted it. As expected it wont work. Incase anyone is interested the ADSL router has a built in ADSL modem, obvious really as it connects straight to the phone line! Oh well. Anyone wanna but an ADSL wireless router??
:)
Ooo, must have posted at similar time. The ADSL modem wont work so no point in trying a converter but cheers for the offer. :)
chillicat 27-01-2005, 20:14 Is it 802.11b or 802.11g?
neeeeeeeeeek 27-01-2005, 20:17 11g its a D-link dsl-g604t Boxed as new with receipt and guarantee
:S
YOU PLUG THE RJ45 output from the Cable modem INTO a RJ45 socket on your wirless router - forget the rj11
neeeeeeeeeek 27-01-2005, 20:48 THERE ISNT ONE!!! (an RJ45 connector the the router), that was the point of the thread! But cheers for trying!
Phanerothyme 27-01-2005, 21:00 Originally posted by neeeeeeeeeek
THERE ISNT ONE!!! (an RJ45 connector the the router), that was the point of the thread! But cheers for trying!
Let me get this straight, you are trying to use a wireless ADSL router with a broadband Terminal Adapter?
Or are you just trying to use the ADSL router as a simple wireless network hub/switch and not bothering with the ADSL bit?
Why would an ADSL adapter (RJ11) be able to pick up an ethernet connection from your cable TA?
If there's not RJ45 ethernet connections on your wireless ADSL router then its completely wireless except for the ADSL connector, and you are out of luck. Why did your friend buy it?
NOt better just to get a wireless hub/switch that has real network connectors on?
Then it isn't a DSL-G604T, it would have 4 RJ45 sockets on the back if it was. All wireless routers come with at least one RJ45 socket.
I think, (after re-reading a bit), that Gazza means use the router as a switch, rather than as a router, and you mean there are no RJ45 WAN ports?
Either way, if it's an ADSL modem it won't work on cable, as you've found out.
limpetboy 27-01-2005, 21:07 oh dear oh dear, the perils of buying second hand lol:rolleyes:
Captain_Scarlet 27-01-2005, 21:09 So basically this is what you WANt to do, but for an obscure reason, you can't ?
http://www.smokefilledroom.co.uk/Gregsworld/Files/divers/Neeeeeeeeeks_strange_router.jpg <= that
Coz to be fair, a router that has no RJ45 is a bit crap, I fear the USB evil.
I can always come around tomorrow and have a look, I'm a bit bored, going out in the outside world will do me good.
neeeeeeeeeek 27-01-2005, 21:11 I was under the impression it was a straight wireless router like my 3Com one until I saw it, and having never had any contact with ADSL I was not sure if it was just a connection thing. Soon discovered it was not that simple! I told them what to buy but would they listen!!
TUT.. Women. ;)
;look for £40 just buy this, works a treat
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=45023
neeeeeeeeeek 27-01-2005, 21:13 What they need it to buy a normal wireless router and all will be good. They are not even on ADSL.. Spose I learnt something so not all bad!! cheers for the offer of help but all should be cool once they buy the correct thing!
limpetboy 27-01-2005, 21:21 they shouldn't need to buy a new one tho as Captian Scarlett's pretty picture points out - just forget the ADSL bit on it even exists and use it as a 10/100 LAN Switch - Cable modem in to one of the 4 RJ45 these things have, maybe a little bit of faffing (read the manual!) and Robert's your mother's brother, a fully functioning network switch with a shared Internet connection.
Easy :thumbsup:
Originally posted by limpetboy
they shouldn't need to buy a new one tho as Captian Scarlett's pretty picture points out - just forget the ADSL bit on it even exists and use it as a 10/100 LAN Switch - Cable modem in to one of the 4 RJ45 these things have, maybe a little bit of faffing (read the manual!) and Robert's your mother's brother, a fully functioning network switch with a shared Internet connection.
Easy :thumbsup:
neeeeeeeeeek THERE ISNT ONE!!! (an RJ45 connector the the router), that was the point of the thread! But cheers for trying!
neeeeeeeeeek 27-01-2005, 21:26 Reeeeeet, sorted... all under control.... information overload.. no more info rqd, please stop..... :)
limpetboy 27-01-2005, 21:29 Originally posted by Gazza
This is a D-Link DSL-G604T Wireless 802.11g ADSL Router (http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=110551&partner=register) If it doesn't have 4 x RJ45 sockets on the back (giveing the 10/100 Ethernet bit it talks about on the website) then what neeeeeeeks friend has bought, quite simply, ain't one of these.
neeeeeeeeeek 28-01-2005, 07:37 reet, might try set it up as a switch or might just get them to buy the right thing like I had asked.. this learning thing is painful!
Phanerothyme 28-01-2005, 09:36 Neek it is very straightforward. Forget that the wireless hub has ADSL - just think of it as a network hub or switch - repeat FORGET ADSL, you aren't using it!!
1.You already have a working TCP/IP connection on your Cable Broadband terminal adapter. This has an output - RJ45 - which is "the internet".
2.If you plug this into your Wireless ADSL router via a length of CAT5 then your Wireless Lan will pick up your Cable modem as a single port network hub. The Cable Broadband Terminal Adapter will act as a DHCP server to your ADSL router, and your ADSL router will act as a DHCP server to your LAN.
You will need to make sure all the LAN IPs work properly and that the cable TA is identified as the default gateway on your network.
Your Terminal Adapter is your LAN/WAN gateway - your ADSL router is just a wireless/wired hub with redundant ADSL technology.
Unless you catually have ADSL, there is no point plugging the ADSL line in into anything.
neeeeeeeeeek 28-01-2005, 10:04 Was planning to ignore the ADSL bit and just use the RJ45 bit as a switch. Plug the blueyonder modem into the RJ45 port on the router, register the routers Mac address with Blueyonder. Set up the wireless bit on the laptop and all should be good!!!
he hopes!
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