View Full Version : Decent Broadband In Stannington??


PATHFINDER
10-11-2007, 12:49
Does anyone in Stannington receive a decent uninterrupted Broadband Service. If so - which company are you with? We have Talk Talk and most evenings and weekends the service is either very slow or non-existant. Although its free with our telephone service, we would rather pay a separate fee and have a good service.

Please can anyone recommend a good Broadband provider, whose service works consistently well in Stannington?

Rich
10-11-2007, 14:05
I used to have Pipex when I lived in Stannington, they were brilliant but expensive, £46 a month for wireless 512k Broadband, and their exchange is in Shiregreen, odd that it gave a good service from as far away as their when all the others are based at Wadsley and mostly suck.

Lancs_Lad
10-11-2007, 14:34
Been with Ukonline now for almost 18 months on their 1mb service. £9-99 per month and after initial connection problems its been faultless. It's cheap because they have installed their own equipment at the exchange.

Looking at the website the £9-99 package may not be available although it may be worth ringing them as the max speed you'll get is 1MB depending on where in Stannington you live

max
10-11-2007, 14:36
The max speed here is 512k due to the distance from Wadsley Bridge exchange but it is consistent and rarely do I have any interruptions. I'm with Plusnet.

Lancs_Lad
10-11-2007, 14:48
The max speed here is 512k due to the distance from Wadsley Bridge exchange but it is consistent and rarely do I have any interruptions. I'm with Plusnet.

Don't know where you are max but I live off Acorn Drive and have had 1mb for 18 months. ISP's will now look at individual line stats and if your line will take it the will up your speed to 1MB - try ringing plusnet and ask them:)

max
10-11-2007, 15:19
Don't know where you are max but I live off Acorn Drive and have had 1mb for 18 months. ISP's will now look at individual line stats and if your line will take it the will up your speed to 1MB - try ringing plusnet and ask them:)

My line's set up for the higher speed and occasionally I've had speeds of 800K but generally speaking it's lurking around the 500-660k area. Plus, whenever I try out the line tests on other ISP sites it always comes back with 512k being the maximum.

I too am off Acorn Drive.

PS. This from the BT site: We've just tested your line and can confirm your line supports the UK's most complete broadband package, BT Total Broadband and we can confirm that you will be able to reach a maximum download speed of 0.5 (Megabits per second).

satman2222
10-11-2007, 15:27
I used to have Pipex when I lived in Stannington, they were brilliant but expensive, £46 a month for wireless 512k Broadband, and their exchange is in Shiregreen, odd that it gave a good service from as far away as their when all the others are based at Wadsley and mostly suck.

I told you last time the exchange is at Claywheels Lane not Shiregreen!! :hihi:

max
10-11-2007, 15:41
Plus this from Freeola: Our line check shows that you can have Freeola Broadband with an expected speed of 0.5 Mb!

So where do I go to get 1mb, please?

Lancs_Lad
10-11-2007, 15:53
Plus this from Freeola:

So where do I go to get 1mb, please?

It's nothing to do with ISP's. Your BB speed depends on how good your line is. Decide on a provider then ring them and ask them to check your line. If you have a current BB connection try contacting your current provider and ask them first.

Loads of info here http://www.thinkbroadband.com/

Rich
10-11-2007, 15:54
I told you last time the exchange is at Claywheels Lane not Shiregreen!! :hihi:

Fail.

Pipex told me when I rang up to order that their exchange was in Shiregreen as they have their own equipment which is seperate from teh BT exchange at Wadsley Bridge.

marino
10-11-2007, 17:19
Im with BT been with them 3 years but in hillsborough but use same as stannington

satman2222
10-11-2007, 18:23
Fail.

Pipex told me when I rang up to order that their exchange was in Shiregreen as they have their own equipment which is seperate from teh BT exchange at Wadsley Bridge.

The BT line from any house in Stannington will terminate on an ISP's DSLAM at Claywheels lane 1st floor - nowhere else. Pipex may have some other routing equipment alledgedly at Shiregreen, but it's highly unlikely, I mean, It's not exactly the centre of commerce is it! :hihi:

baby barrie
10-11-2007, 21:42
Does anyone in Stannington receive a decent uninterrupted Broadband Service. If so - which company are you with? We have Talk Talk and most evenings and weekends the service is either very slow or non-existant. Although its free with our telephone service, we would rather pay a separate fee and have a good service.

Please can anyone recommend a good Broadband provider, whose service works consistently well in Stannington?

Talk Talk thats the problem rubbish

kel_89
11-11-2007, 01:42
I'm near the Infants school at Stannington and TalkTalk is magnificent for me...

oldgreen
13-11-2007, 22:23
I give up about a year ago trying to get more than 512, logged into eclipse the other day and noticed I had an option to "Flex" upto 2mb for a few pence per hour...then I DOWNGRADED my service with then ! yes downgraded and all of a sudden I've got 2mb DL speed ! in stannington !

Dave h-j
13-11-2007, 22:33
The BT line from any house in Stannington will terminate on an ISP's DSLAM at Claywheels lane 1st floor - nowhere else. Pipex may have some other routing equipment alledgedly at Shiregreen, but it's highly unlikely, I mean, It's not exactly the centre of commerce is it! :hihi:

Correct - the line will terminate at the Wadsley Bridge exchange. It cannot terminate in Shiregreen as it's too far to provide a service from (and BT would never route the lines that way).

This map will give you an overview of the exchanges and locations in Sheffield:

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/viewmap.php?ecode=SLWB

mrmist
14-11-2007, 07:21
Largely though no matter what provider you use (aside from the specific LLU providers) you are going to suffer the same line quality issues. If you currently plug your broadband stuff into an extension socket, consider plugging it in to the main BT master socket instead, as it could be your internal house wiring introducing glitches. We had no end of problems at our old house, eventually a BT man came around and removed an ancient contraption that someone had wired in years ago, and it worked flawlessly afterwards. The thing he took out was so old I didn't even realise it was still connected to anything.

bartman82
14-11-2007, 08:56
i'm on stannington road near the top and i consistently get 3-4mb download speed with SKY max service

mossdog
14-11-2007, 10:21
i'm on stannington road near the top and i consistently get 3-4mb download speed with SKY max serviceI am near the bottom of Church street on Oldfield road,and get 1.1mb on Orange!

Di-namic
14-11-2007, 11:00
I am near the bottom of Church street on Oldfield road,and get 1.1mb on Orange!

Near the Sportsman AOL 1.1mb

bartman82
14-11-2007, 11:01
i'm just below the terrace......however when i go to a friends near the sportsman he is getting nearly 7 megs with the same sky service

j3nni383
14-11-2007, 11:03
I and a few friends had nothing but trouble with orange!

im with 3 mobile the new plug-in thingy no landline needed and so far no probs with my connection, plus i can take my laptop anywhere and still hav my own interenet connection all for £15 a month!!!

Di-namic
14-11-2007, 11:05
i'm just below the terrace......however when i go to a friends near the sportsman he is getting nearly 7 megs with the same sky service

WOW!
I must be doing something wrong - I've never got more than 1.1.
and always been told that's the best I'll get.
Maybe I should try Sky.

mossdog
14-11-2007, 18:04
i'm just below the terrace......however when i go to a friends near the sportsman he is getting nearly 7 megs with the same sky serviceHow much is that costing him,any idea?.....................can we all go round to your friends for a demo? I can bring a few cans!

satman2222
15-11-2007, 08:34
WOW!
I must be doing something wrong - I've never got more than 1.1.
and always been told that's the best I'll get.
Maybe I should try Sky.

It won't matter what service provider you try, If you are unfortunate enough to have a crap pair of wires between the exchange and your house, they will all fail to deliver the goods!
Imagine your phoneline is a hosepipe. If the pipe is kinked or you stand on it, it won't matter which tap you connect it to, you ain't gonna get much water through it!

mossdog
15-11-2007, 09:03
It won't matter what service provider you try, If you are unfortunate enough to have a crap pair of wires between the exchange and your house, they will all fail to deliver the goods!
Imagine your phoneline is a hosepipe. If the pipe is kinked or you stand on it, it won't matter which tap you connect it to, you ain't gonna get much water through it!Yes! that makes sense!

max
08-12-2007, 12:59
It won't matter what service provider you try, If you are unfortunate enough to have a crap pair of wires between the exchange and your house, they will all fail to deliver the goods!
Imagine your phoneline is a hosepipe. If the pipe is kinked or you stand on it, it won't matter which tap you connect it to, you ain't gonna get much water through it!

That's what I thought. I've just moved from Plusnet, which was giving me a maximum of 600k to O2 which is giving me 1.6Mb plus it's only £7.50 a month for O2 users.

I'll give it a few months to see what it's like for reliability, etc. an then report back.

Rich
08-12-2007, 16:28
WOW!
I must be doing something wrong - I've never got more than 1.1.
and always been told that's the best I'll get.
Maybe I should try Sky.

No! Do NOT use Sky! I'm on my Dad's Sky connection at the moment, and when it works it's good but the supplied router sucks, it regularly times out which kills the connection, and it takes ages to get back online when it does! Most annoying.

I've also been told that because of the distance from the exchange at Wadsley, NO ISP can give anywhere in Stannington more than 512k connections.

max
09-12-2007, 15:10
I've also been told that because of the distance from the exchange at Wadsley, NO ISP can give anywhere in Stannington more than 512k connections.

Read my post above. I'm on O2 via BE with ADSL2 and getting > 1.5Mb since switching.

Lancs_Lad
09-12-2007, 16:52
I've also been told that because of the distance from the exchange at Wadsley, NO ISP can give anywhere in Stannington more than 512k connections.

I've had 1MB for nearly 2 years now and live on the top end of Stannington near Nook Lane School.

Current stats for those that may doubt that anything above 512k isn't possible;)

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1024 kbps 256 kbps
Line Attenuation 57 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 12 db 24 db

oldgreen
03-10-2008, 21:48
Old thread but I still dont get more than 600kbps.. anyone get Mb's up in Stannington ?

scottcave
18-10-2008, 07:48
Try Virgin Media or Sky?

busybody
18-10-2008, 08:15
near the sportsman 2.2mb Orange

iansheff
18-10-2008, 10:09
My line's set up for the higher speed and occasionally I've had speeds of 800K but generally speaking it's lurking around the 500-660k area. Plus, whenever I try out the line tests on other ISP sites it always comes back with 512k being the maximum.

I too am off Acorn Drive.

PS. This from the BT site:

No idea where they get these speeds from, I live in S12 and ran the BT speed test and got a max of 512kb, I already get 2.1mb :loopy:

busybody
18-10-2008, 15:27
most phone companys offer free broadband up to 2mb which we get already so i wont be upgrading and paying for it monthly when i can receive it with my phone bill.

oldgreen
20-10-2008, 09:40
mmmm, maybe time to change.. It dropped to 128kb (ISDN Speed) last week... and the ISP said, there is not much they can do.. sounds like a local issue with distance from Exchange...

oldgreen
24-08-2010, 13:07
Dig up an old thread but... Last week my road in Stannington was being dug up for the installation of cables... there was some sign about working with the council for digital..bla bla.. I didnt get to read it all and the next day it was gone. Can anyone shed any light on this ? are we finally getting good speeds in Stannington ?

Di-namic
24-08-2010, 16:35
Dig up an old thread but... Last week my road in Stannington was being dug up for the installation of cables... there was some sign about working with the council for digital..bla bla.. I didnt get to read it all and the next day it was gone. Can anyone shed any light on this ? are we finally getting good speeds in Stannington ?

Oh I do hope so - It's dire

LadyInRed
24-08-2010, 16:38
The max speed here is 512k due to the distance from Wadsley Bridge exchange but it is consistent and rarely do I have any interruptions. I'm with Plusnet.

Yeah I was told this - been with BT, Virgin and went back to Plusnet as they are a better service provider IMPO

Furblefox
24-08-2010, 22:23
Oh I do hope so - It's dire

It's not for BT yet. It's for the Sheffield Digital Region Project.
(25 to 40mbit VDSL service if you want to get technical)

You can find out more here: http://www.digitalregion.co.uk/checker.php


Also, on Wood Lane, I get 2.5mbit from Sky at the moment!

Ianroberts
25-08-2010, 11:54
Digital Region must work over BT because when we bought it from DRBSY they said we had to have a BT line.... i'm paying £5 more than I was with BT for 36.5Meg speed increase :-)

It's not for BT yet. It's for the Sheffield Digital Region Project.
(25 to 40mbit VDSL service if you want to get technical)

You can find out more here: http://www.digitalregion.co.uk/checker.php


Also, on Wood Lane, I get 2.5mbit from Sky at the moment!

jeppers
25-08-2010, 13:35
Hi all,

Yes, it's part of the Digital Region FTTC network that's being deployed throughout South Yorkshire, and the current plan should see parts of Stannington come online by the end of the year.

The network is putting new VDSL equipment into the BT exchanges, laying or renting 1,200km of fibre-optic cable, and installing and commissioning more than 1,300 new DRL street cabinets in phase 1 of the build. We'll install and commission more of them in phases 2 and 3, and are ultimately aiming for total coverage of the region.

Because fibre is being deployed to the street, and not just to the exchange, most people will only have a couple of hundred metre's of copper line to go over before they connect back into our network. This line is your standard BT telephone line, and we patch into the standard BT street cabinet that is already out there. Because of this, users should see a significant increase in data speed, just like Ian has above.

wwinterj
11-11-2010, 01:55
Old thred but I need to bump it.
I live on Woodfarm Drive, just up woodlane for those who don't know it.
For years I've only ever been able to get a 1 meg connection from Talk Talk and that's on a good day.

Right now my speeds are 672.0 kbps. I've phoned BT about my phone line issues before but apprently the phone line is working fine. My equipment works fine also (aside from my router I bought myself, due to my slow internet at the moment).

My contract with Talk Talk is over now and I am open to switching to somewhere that can offer me better speeds if at all possible. I've been thinking about switching to BT but not sure if that would help. It's very frustrating having these slow speeds even when using a modem. Almost more frustrating than knowing Stannington is stuck in the stone age when it comes to broadband speeds it would seem.

Any advice or help would be great.

Furblefox
11-11-2010, 01:59
... wait until January. DigitalRegion will be live then and you can get around 40x that speed.

Furblefox
11-11-2010, 02:00
Just a quickie I forgot to post... DON'T go with BT.
They're useless!

wwinterj
11-11-2010, 02:03
Thank you for the quick responce. :D
I'm looking into this Digital Region FTTC thing. I remember seeing the vans but had no clue what they was doing. I hope I will be able to benefit from this. I'd be happy to pay a little more(if I need to) if that means I'm getting good broadband. :rolleyes:

nosy nellie
11-11-2010, 07:13
I am in the Stannington area I used to be with Three and had loads of trouble with it,since I changed to B.T I have had no problems at all.
Glad I changed.:)

Furblefox
11-11-2010, 07:15
Three don't do landline broadband?

Were you using their mobile network?
And BT Mobile is using Vodafone, btw...

iansheff
11-11-2010, 07:40
http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/broadband_speed_in_my_area.aspx

Furblefox
11-11-2010, 07:46
http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/broadband_speed_in_my_area.aspx

2.1mbps, right next to my neighbour getting 0.3mbps and my phone line is 40 years old...

Whoops!

lucasdigital
11-11-2010, 08:42
Old thred but I need to bump it.
I live on Woodfarm Drive, just up woodlane for those who don't know it.
For years I've only ever been able to get a 1 meg connection from Talk Talk and that's on a good day.

Right now my speeds are 672.0 kbps. I've phoned BT about my phone line issues before but apprently the phone line is working fine. My equipment works fine also (aside from my router I bought myself, due to my slow internet at the moment).

My contract with Talk Talk is over now and I am open to switching to somewhere that can offer me better speeds if at all possible. I've been thinking about switching to BT but not sure if that would help. It's very frustrating having these slow speeds even when using a modem. Almost more frustrating than knowing Stannington is stuck in the stone age when it comes to broadband speeds it would seem.

Any advice or help would be great.

Hi,

Until this fibre service is more widely available, we're stuffed. Unless there's a cable service, pretty much the only means of getting broadband is over the available phone network (BT's wires and cabinets). In our case there are two factors that result in Stannington's poor speeds. Firstly our local exchange is way over at Wadsley Bridge. Available broadband speeds drop off, the further away you are from your exchange.

Secondly, there was a shortage of copper when much of Stannington's phone cabling was laid out, so a fair amount of aluminum was used, which was acceptable for carrying voice signals, but lousy for broadband.

Now, because Stannington doesn't have a cable service, if you get broadband from a company that isn't BT you're effectively still getting the same quality of broadband, in terms of maximum available speed (because Talk Talk, Virgin et al still use BT's infrastructure).

Where different Internet providers comes in is when you're getting a maximum available speed, but your actual speed is persistently falling below this. Then the cause of the poor speed is usually congestion on the service.

wwinterj
12-11-2010, 02:13
I see..... so what would be your advise on my problem?
I used to get 1.1 mbps speed and as you can now see the speed has dropped a lot and has been like this for a few weeks now.

I've phone Talk Talk about this and they say my line can only get 500kbps....
I know this is not the case as I've had speeds of around 1.1 mbps for years.
I can't even use my belkin router with these slow speeds because it needs a high speed connection so I have to use my modem.


I've put the problem down to the bad weather myself as I've had no joy with phoning Talk Talk or BT.
I see what speeds other isps can provide me on there websites and that says around 1.5 mbps. :huh:

I can't for the life of me work out this problem and I need to use my router for my network. I've made sure nothing my end is causing any problems also. I can't do nothing when I'm paying £15 a month for a service I don't seem to be getting. The only thing I can think of is to switch my ISP as there is no fault on my BT line. :suspect:

jeppers
12-11-2010, 12:56
Hi,

Unfortunately for you, Stannington is on the Wadsley Bridge exchange which is already enabled, but the village itself is currently not live. Drop me a PM and I'll check when you're due to be switched on.

Just to confirm what's been said before, the distance you are from the street cabinet you're connected too, and what quality copper line connects you to it, will both influence the speeds you can get, but we reckon that if you're less than 500m away, you should see 20Mbps or more when using Digital Region.

Rich

SUZIFACE
12-11-2010, 13:02
Im in Rivelin and its crap here too. Does anyone know if you switch broadband provider, can you take your old email address with you. O2 are trying to tell me you can, I aint sure. Any knowledge of this would be appreciated.
Thanks

evildrneil
12-11-2010, 13:08
Im in Rivelin and its crap here too. Does anyone know if you switch broadband provider, can you take your old email address with you. O2 are trying to tell me you can, I aint sure. Any knowledge of this would be appreciated.
Thanks

If it's an O2 email address then no - they will be hosting your mailboxes and will cease to do so when you close down your account.

SUZIFACE
12-11-2010, 13:41
If it's an O2 email address then no - they will be hosting your mailboxes and will cease to do so when you close down your account.

Im with Talk Talk formerly Tiscali, O2 are after my business and its them who say I can use my Tiscali email address if I come over to them. I think this is a lie.

lucasdigital
12-11-2010, 15:20
I see..... so what would be your advise on my problem?
I used to get 1.1 mbps speed and as you can now see the speed has dropped a lot and has been like this for a few weeks now.


Ah right. Sorry, I didn't know you'd historically had a faster connection. My mum's on Woodfarm Avenue, during the summer her connection speed was dropped by Plusnet back to about 128kbps. The current version of ADSL automatically adjusts the connection speed to ensure that the connection is stable, occasionally it gets stuck on a slower speed as a result of short lived fault. I disconnected the old router from bedroom extension socket and now run a wireless router from the master socket. The speed quickly retrained to about 1Mbps.

You may be right about the bad weather. I'd stick to my guns calling Talk Talk, get them to reset your connection speed back to the speed you were getting and see if that keeps up.

Some other points:
BT take a hard line regarding 'line faults'. They still have the mindset that - if you can make phone calls and get connected - you don't have a line fault.

The speed checkers that ISPs use isn't a 'live' test, it's based on some guesswork based on your distance from the exchange. There's a good chance that moving to another ISP won't improve matters - although it might just by someone resetting your broadband service - something that I think Talk Talk could do if you tell them you're planning to leave because of the drop in speeds.

It sounds like you checked your own setup, I'd say that the most critical check you can do is connecting from your master socket - worth doing, even if you have to set your computer up in the hallway, just to check if internal wiring is having an impact.

Good luck!

max
12-11-2010, 16:12
I'd go with O2 or another provider who uses ADSL2. I switched to them from Plusnet and my speed doubled overnight. It's not great but I'm getting 1.7 mbps compared to the 600 I was getting before plus there's a discount for O2 mobile users.

nevillew
13-11-2010, 08:22
There are areas of Stannington that are now connected to the Digital Region network. We have a customer that is 1.5km away from their DR enabled street cabinet and they still get 15Mb, marginally better than the 0.2Mb they were getting on their BT connection....
Send me a PM or reply to this if you want to know more or want to know how to sign up. Oh we also have someone who gets 66Mb but their cabinet is outside their front door. None the less we believe it to be the fastest broadband connection in the UK!!