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discodown 10-11-2007, 00:12 Does anyone know if the republic is going to be rebuilt? (You can call it Gatecrasher One if you like but to me it'll always be the republic?) Culturally it was one of the most important buildings in sheffield and it would be a desparate shame if it just turned into yet more flats.
We've already lost Bed which is a terrible shame, it would be even worse to lose Republic which was the building that really put sheffield back on the clubbing map and kept it there. It was a building where some lifelong friendships were made, DJ's became superstars and people came from all over the country to go to.
Whatever you think of Gatecrasher it was incredibly important and it should be acknowledged as part of sheffields history. Its as vital to sheffields history as the cutlers hall or a little mesters yard. Also on a larger scale what is it about clubbing and nighttime venues that cities are just happy to let them fade away as thought they were unimportant. Manchester let the hacienda go, NYC let the saint and the paradise garage get built on. Its a shame. We shouldn't let the impact of crasher fade.
The Republic must be rebuilt!
Agent Gypo 10-11-2007, 00:26 Funny, I was wondering what was going to happen to the site earlier today.
don't know about the site but I heard they're moving republic to the roxy building
bensonhedges 10-11-2007, 00:38 They can rebuild it all they like - it won't be the building where all those friendships were made. In the end Discodown, although I agree with your sentiments, I reckon Gatecrasher is more a state of mind than a physical space and so, whether the bricks and mortar are there or not, it WILL always be with you.
muddycoffee 10-11-2007, 01:07 don't know about the site but I heard they're moving republic to the roxy building
You heard wrong.
That is incorrect information.
don't know about the site but I heard they're moving republic to the roxy building
that rumour has been around years, ever since the regeneration of sheffield was announced :hihi:
Personally I think clubbing is dying. people want the biggest and best but are not willing to pay for it. How many times do you read about someone moaning about the price of a pint but when a cheaper alternative is offered its rubbish... cant have it both ways im afraid.
The days of the super club are long gone so I wouldn't imagine that there are any real plans to rebuild the club. It's on a nice piece of land that would suit lots of uses and it would be a brave opertor that would rebuild when yu can simply attach your brand and following to somebody elses venue in any location.
Roxy - somebody maybe, but not Crasher as I understand it.
rubydazzler 10-11-2007, 09:33 They can rebuild it all they like - it won't be the building where all those friendships were made. In the end Discodown, although I agree with your sentiments, I reckon Gatecrasher is more a state of mind than a physical space and so, whether the bricks and mortar are there or not, it WILL always be with you.
That's so true, it's like the old Mojo Club, it's been flats for years now, but for those who went there in its heyday, we still have great memories of all the bands we saw and people we met. Gatecrasher will live on in memory for the people that loved it, and probably get bigger and better with every year that passes!.
bensonhedges 10-11-2007, 10:02 Where was the Mojo Ruby?
discodown 10-11-2007, 11:17 They can rebuild it all they like - it won't be the building where all those friendships were made. In the end Discodown, although I agree with your sentiments, I reckon Gatecrasher is more a state of mind than a physical space and so, whether the bricks and mortar are there or not, it WILL always be with you.You're absolutely right.They will never recreate the feeling of crasher. I just think it is important to have a physical reminder of the importance and impact of the club
Unless I'm missing something (which is quite possible at this time Saturday am ) the GC website seems to have expunged all previous references to rebuilding it.
Carborundum 10-11-2007, 17:09 do you mean the republic of Sheffield? Yes its being rebuilt look around you at all the cranes ...
^^Yeah, the 'Sheffield' Link at the top just goes to the event at Magna, and I can't even find any mention of the fire, let alone rebuilding GC1. :(
I really do hope they rebuild it.
i'll put money on it that its a set of flats by the year 2010!
rubydazzler 10-11-2007, 18:58 Where was the Mojo Ruby?
I've forgotten benson&hedges ;)
No I haven't, it was on Pitsmoor Road, opposite the entrance to Abbeyfield Park, in the old Day's Dance Hall. ~Fantastic place, there's a thread about it somewhere on here already, so won't hijack this one.
Its strange walking past the old site, you can still see the concrete where the stairs were that led to the main dancefloor downstairs, and the raised platforms at the back where the raised bit was. I think we should have a free party there, invite some of the former residents to play, what a way to go out in style.
AtticusFinch 12-11-2007, 13:39 I walk past the Crasher site every day on my way to work. Over the summer there were a few builders who rebuilt a wall out of breeze blocks at the back of the site, but apart from that nothing has been done. The fences are often kicked down and someone has graffitied "RIP Crasher" on the back wall.
i would say that they are waiting for the insurance money to be payed to them, or even still argueing about how much they will get!
Then you have to plan it- submit planning applications etc etc- its a long process i would guess!!
Chris BIO 12-11-2007, 13:51 I think the thing you're forgetting Disco is that Gatecrasher did a grand job of doing away with any happy memories long before the fire.
What was once a global clubbing landmark was turned into a bog-standard Saturday night meat-market when they realised the trance gravy train was broken down and they could make their money from the 'Dance and RnB' crowd of pish-heads and Galaxy/Hallam listeners.
That's just an outsiders view mind, as I thought it was shi'te in both it's forms.
I think the thing you're forgetting Disco is that Gatecrasher did a grand job of doing away with any happy memories long before the fire.
What was once a global clubbing landmark was turned into a bog-standard Saturday night meat-market when they realised the trance gravy train was broken down and they could make their money from the 'Dance and RnB' crowd of pish-heads and Galaxy/Hallam listeners.
That's just an outsiders view mind, as I thought it was shi'te in both it's forms.
yet on its night it was still the best club in sheffield!!!
BasilRathbon 12-11-2007, 14:38 I wonder if the owners of the old Republic have considered developing a time machine that would enable them to go back to the night before the fire and remove all combustible materials?
I'm with Chris BIO on this one, I don't see it's such a shame to lose GC as in my opinion it represented everything that is bad about the corporate world of clubbing. Yes, it has its place in the past but it was doing its best to tarnish those memories.
On another note I've heard there are NO plans to rebuild. GC will pursue the Nottingham and Leeds venues (which are doing very well) and throw one off parties at Magna.
discodown 12-11-2007, 17:26 I think the thing you're forgetting Disco is that Gatecrasher did a grand job of doing away with any happy memories long before the fire.
What was once a global clubbing landmark was turned into a bog-standard Saturday night meat-market when they realised the trance gravy train was broken down and they could make their money from the 'Dance and RnB' crowd of pish-heads and Galaxy/Hallam listeners.
That's just an outsiders view mind, as I thought it was shi'te in both it's forms.Forget what it became. I'm talking about what it was. And in its day it was the greatest club in the world. Not the building but the club.
NEKRO138 12-11-2007, 17:46 The thing with GC1/Republic is, there isn't anything in Sheffield even similar to it. Now, it's suddenly gone and there's a large crowd with no where to go that replaces the club they were used to. Sheffield doesn't have any big nightclubs (as in people will travel from other cities for) now.
I wonder if the owners of the old Republic have considered developing a time machine that would enable them to go back to the night before the fire and remove all combustible materials?
well, the entire sound system had been removed, apparently it was being 'serviced' at the time the building caught fire.
Forget what it became. I'm talking about what it was. And in its day it was the greatest club in the world. Not the building but the club.
Come on, it may have been a lot of things to a lot of people, but greatest club in the world???????
Agent Gypo 12-11-2007, 19:16 'Crasher was great, but even at it's peak I wouldn't have called it the best night in Sheffield, never mind the rest of the country or even the world. There have been, and still are (for my money) better nights around, but without the same exposure and popularity. I didn't rate the club as a space that much really to be honest, it had a killer soundsystem and great lighting, but it was too....nice.
I would be interested to see how the Gatecrasher brand (god, what an awful, awful word to use to describe a club night) moves on from here, but trance isn't what it used to be and I would have thought there is more money in Hed Kandi style events... Still, it would be good to see the club back in any capacity.
Slightly off topic here... I could be wrong, but capacity-wise isn't Club Shhh/Void the biggest club in Sheffield now?
Chris BIO 12-11-2007, 19:46 Forget what it became. I'm talking about what it was. And in its day it was the greatest club in the world. Not the building but the club.
Well if we're talking about what it was, we could have had this conversation when they did away with the proper clubbing and replaced with the chart/cheese crap everyone else plays, at least it was still standing then and they'd've had chance to change it back :)
Things change, the scene changes, so I guess they just didn't see it as sustainable to do the Crasher thing week-in, week-out. So in that sense you could say it's the scene's 'fault', not Crasher's, that there's it's no longer the 'cathedral' (if you like that sort of thing) it once was. There was a big shift, the superclubs died and the smaller nights prospered, Cream went exactly the same way.
discodown 12-11-2007, 21:38 Come on, it may have been a lot of things to a lot of people, but greatest club in the world???????DMC thought so, they voted it the greatest clubnight in the world
discodown 12-11-2007, 21:41 Well if we're talking about what it was, we could have had this conversation when they did away with the proper clubbing and replaced with the chart/cheese crap everyone else plays, at least it was still standing then and they'd've had chance to change it back :)
Things change, the scene changes, so I guess they just didn't see it as sustainable to do the Crasher thing week-in, week-out. So in that sense you could say it's the scene's 'fault', not Crasher's, that there's it's no longer the 'cathedral' (if you like that sort of thing) it once was. There was a big shift, the superclubs died and the smaller nights prospered, Cream went exactly the same way.And there should be some sort of acknowledgement to Cream also. GC was sheffield for a while. Its not the building so much that matters more the institution and the ideal of what crasher was. That should be acknowledged. Even if (and almost certainly it will) it turns into flats there should be some sort of reminder that for a while there stood a building that changed lives
Craig Holmes 12-11-2007, 22:17 And there should be some sort of acknowledgement to Cream also. GC was sheffield for a while. Its not the building so much that matters more the institution and the ideal of what crasher was. That should be acknowledged. Even if (and almost certainly it will) it turns into flats there should be some sort of reminder that for a while there stood a building that changed lives
A giant lion statue in the middle of the peace gardens! That'd be mint!
Agent Gypo 12-11-2007, 22:29 And there should be some sort of acknowledgement to Cream also. GC was sheffield for a while. Its not the building so much that matters more the institution and the ideal of what crasher was. That should be acknowledged. Even if (and almost certainly it will) it turns into flats there should be some sort of reminder that for a while there stood a building that changed lives
Gatecrasher was 'Sheffield' for a while? Apart from the clubnight being a regular event in this city, and maybe the TDR flyers, what exactly was 'Sheffield' about it?
It was a decent night, but the DJs on show at 'Crasher had little in common with the sound Sheffield is renowned for.
discodown 13-11-2007, 19:03 Gatecrasher was 'Sheffield' for a while? Apart from the clubnight being a regular event in this city, and maybe the TDR flyers, what exactly was 'Sheffield' about it?
It was a decent night, but the DJs on show at 'Crasher had little in common with the sound Sheffield is renowned for.Crasher forged a new sound for Sheffield. For a new generation of clubbers Sheffield was mecca. Just as for the first generation of clubbers the Hacienda was all. So for the trance generation Crasher was the ultimate.
Agent Gypo 13-11-2007, 20:12 Crasher forged a new sound for Sheffield. For a new generation of clubbers Sheffield was mecca. Just as for the first generation of clubbers the Hacienda was all. So for the trance generation Crasher was the ultimate.
I don't think 'Crasher forged a new sound for Sheffield at all. How many trance nights or trance-influenced producers does this city have now?
There isn't really a comparison between the Hacienda and Gatecrasher either. The Hacienda was pure Manchester, and had truly iconic connotations (New Order, Ben Kelly, Peter Saville, Factory, acid house). Despite being hugely popular, Gatecrasher didn't really have that. Corporate clubland will never have the same impact or importance as anything like the Hacienda.
discodown 13-11-2007, 21:52 I don't think 'Crasher forged a new sound for Sheffield at all. How many trance nights or trance-influenced producers does this city have now?
There isn't really a comparison between the Hacienda and Gatecrasher either. The Hacienda was pure Manchester, and had truly iconic connotations (New Order, Ben Kelly, Peter Saville, Factory, acid house). Despite being hugely popular, Gatecrasher didn't really have that. Corporate clubland will never have the same impact or importance as anything like the Hacienda.The amount of trance nights this city has is a direct result of crasher. Its testament to the clubs drawing power, popularity and impact that trance remains in sheffield and probably the UK. To suggest they were here before GC is pure folly.
Crasher wasn't corporate when it started, it was only really corporate after they bought the republic. Also if the hacienda had remained open theres no doubt that if Tony Wilson sold it on it would be as corporate as cream, ministry or crasher. If TW remained in charge it probably wouldn't because he was a genius!
Agent Gypo 13-11-2007, 23:42 The amount of trance nights this city has is a direct result of crasher. Its testament to the clubs drawing power, popularity and impact that trance remains in sheffield and probably the UK. To suggest they were here before GC is pure folly.
I didn't suggest they were here before Crasher, I just don't think it has had any involvement in creating any kind of 'Sheffield sound'.
Also if the hacienda had remained open theres no doubt that if Tony Wilson sold it on it would be as corporate as cream, ministry or crasher.
But he didn't, and it wasn't!
I did like 'Crasher, but I would describe it as very popular rather than iconic. Towards the end it was a grotesque, horrible beast with nothing of what made it interesting in the first place.
Chris BIO 14-11-2007, 01:09 DMC thought so, they voted it the greatest clubnight in the world
They mustn't get out much then ;)
Chris BIO 14-11-2007, 01:15 I suppose in it's own way Crasher was a mecca, but to gurning kids in fluro clothes, not the clubbing scene as a whole. It was as hated by some as it was loved by others, it only gave a home to a certain segment of the scene. Hacienda was a different kettle of fish though, it helped start something new, something for which Crasher and every other club night in the country owes a debt. It and Shroom (arguably) were the blueprint for everything else that followed.
DMC thought so, they voted it the greatest clubnight in the world
Well then it must be true!!!!!!
Gatecrasher did nothing more than exploit the fact that there was no clubbing 'brand' in Sheffield (apart from Love to Be and I'm not sure which came first). There were far more established and innovative nights going on all around the UK at the time Gatecrasher launched. To call it the greatest club in the world is a little bit of a slap in the face for the real pioneers of the UK club scene.
ReginaldD 14-11-2007, 10:41 At first I wanted it rebuilt but if it were it wouldn't be the same so as others said wouldn't hold all those memories. It's crazy to think this time last year but was going to happen, in a way it has really altered my lifestyle. Not that I never go out or anything now but before I'd eb there at least every Friday and sometimes on Saturday's now going out just doesn't seem to be the same and I don't go out to clubs in town as often. It wasn't just that it was Gatecrasher but once you went regularly like I did it seemed to be faces you knew wherever you went, relationships were built in that place.
OwlsChick 14-11-2007, 12:31 they should re-build it in my opinion. for people who loved gatecrasher there isnt a nightclub in sheffield that stands up to the quality of the gatecrasher nights. My only problem i had with the place was the evil :mad: doormen
straylight_r 14-11-2007, 13:09 How many people now do you reckon would be interested in a trance night somewhere in Sheffield? Obviously not on the same scale as crasher but with all the classic tunes etc. As I'm not from here, I'm not aware if something similar already exists? x
I did like 'Crasher, but I would describe it as very popular rather than iconic. Towards the end it was a grotesque, horrible beast with nothing of what made it interesting in the first place.
very popular rather than iconic?? look at all the other clubs it helped influence- passion, godskitchen, colours, cream and some of the london clubs like frantic and turnmills!
They were the first club to play DJ's like tiesto and armin van buuren in the UK and give residencys to PVD, bondy and hardwick when they were at the top of there profession..
Gatecrasher in 1998/1999 was known the world over for cutting edge trance music that was the best in the world- simple as that.
I agree that towards the end it was a shadow of its former self but its hard to stay on top forever especially in the cutting edge industry of dance music which is constantly evolving into different things- GC made some dodgy decisions (going monthly etc etc) and paid the price. It still doesn't take away its former glories.
Chris BIO 14-11-2007, 13:50 very popular rather than iconic?? look at all the other clubs it helped influence- passion, godskitchen, colours, cream and some of the london clubs like frantic and turnmills!
They were the first club to play DJ's like tiesto and armin van buuren in the UK and give residencys to PVD, bondy and hardwick when they were at the top of there profession..
Gatecrasher in 1998/1999 was known the world over for cutting edge trance music that was the best in the world- simple as that.
I agree that towards the end it was a shadow of its former self but its hard to stay on top forever especially in the cutting edge industry of dance music which is constantly evolving into different things- GC made some dodgy decisions (going monthly etc etc) and paid the price. It still doesn't take away its former glories.
Gatecrasher influenced Cream??? Come off it! *cough* Oakenfold *cough*
Perhaps someone can clarify this too but I thought Bond was the resident at Crasher first and foremost and got his name from that, rather than Crasher giving him the residency whilst 'at the top of his game'.
I agree though, it was iconic but only in a certain niche scene, if you didn't like trance you didn't go, so it didn't have all and sundry flocking to it like some seem to think.
I said it helped influence clubs like that- of course oaky was a HUGE influence on it too, im not and never would say that cream followed Gc cos that would be stupid.
Of course it was iconic in a niche scene, everything is when it comes to dance music- what some like- others don't - thats what makes music great. But during them years GC converted many people into liking that style of music- that what a great club does.
Craig Holmes 14-11-2007, 14:20 How many people now do you reckon would be interested in a trance night somewhere in Sheffield? Obviously not on the same scale as crasher but with all the classic tunes etc. As I'm not from here, I'm not aware if something similar already exists? x
Off the Rails started in Feb this year and has already moved from Void to Plug. the last one was very good and quite busy.. classics were done to death by Crasher over 2005 and early 2006 and people got bored so I dont think there's much mileage in that to be honest. There might be room for another trance night later in the month, but finding a venue wuld be a massive challenge in his city.
Craig Holmes 14-11-2007, 14:28 Back to the subject anyway... When I went to uni in 2000, the moment I told people I was from sheffield...the first question they would ask would be "Have you been to gatecrasher?". And not only by people into the trance scene but literally almost everyone. So at one point it did define sheffield for a hell of a lot of people.
Back to the subject anyway... When I went to uni in 2000, the moment I told people I was from sheffield...the first question they would ask would be "Have you been to gatecrasher?". And not only by people into the trance scene but literally almost everyone. So at one point it did define sheffield for a hell of a lot of people.
What a shame for Sheffield :hihi::hihi::hihi:
Agent Gypo 14-11-2007, 14:46 Back to the subject anyway... When I went to uni in 2000, the moment I told people I was from sheffield...the first question they would ask would be "Have you been to gatecrasher?". And not only by people into the trance scene but literally almost everyone. So at one point it did define sheffield for a hell of a lot of people.
Odd one that. Never been asked by anyone out of Sheffield before about Gatecrasher. On the other hand, I've had plenty ask about the Leadmill, Bed, Arches and even Corporation....
it depends what musical circles you move in, if you like indie then it will be the leadmill, of you like funky then its bed etc etc.
The republic was the most well known club from sheffield though.
Craig7777 14-11-2007, 15:35 They should rebuild it at owler bar where f a nnys used to be :)
it depends what musical circles you move in, if you like indie then it will be the leadmill, of you like funky then its bed etc etc.
The republic was the most well known club from sheffield though.
Yep, I'd definitely agree with that one. The Republic for quite some time was probably Sheffield's only major club. I bet if you asked anyone from outside the city to name a club from Sheffield now they'd struggle. Sad really for a city of its size.
I bet if you asked anyone from outside the city to name a club from Sheffield now they'd struggle. Sad really for a city of its size.
Yeah, but the same could be said for most cities. The only one I know in Manchester is Satans Hollow, and that's just cause my sister worked there. For Leeds or Nottingham I'd only be able to name Gatecrasher and Oceana, both of which are chains. (I only know of Oceana because they were looking to open one in Sheffield).
Yeah, but the same could be said for most cities. The only one I know in Manchester is Satans Hollow, and that's just cause my sister worked there. For Leeds or Nottingham I'd only be able to name Gatecrasher and Oceana, both of which are chains. (I only know of Oceana because they were looking to open one in Sheffield).
Yeah, but I bet if you asked people who were into certain scenes they'd be able to name loads, alas not so for Sheffield. I know I could reel off clubs from all over the world that play house music.
Yep, I'd definitely agree with that one. The Republic for quite some time was probably Sheffield's only major club. I bet if you asked anyone from outside the city to name a club from Sheffield now they'd struggle. Sad really for a city of its size.
I agree- it is a shame but you could hardly say sheffield was a big city on the club scene apart from GC in any respect.
And yes- it is sad, in a few years when all these flats are full and we have more of a 'city living' scene then they might do better.
No, but you'd think that somewhere with Sheffield's musical heritage would have more of a club scene than it has. We used to travel to Love to Be when it was at the music factory and thought it was great. Saw many a top DJ there. Add this to Gatecrasher and lots of other smaller nights and at the time there was quite a flourishing scene. I wonder where it all went wrong and more importantly how do we get it back?
I think that its fairly simple to get it back- we need a council who are clubber friendly and who will allow more clubs to open in the city centre (not like club sshh who are miles out) and we need promoters like the people at the plug who are willing to put on varied nights with broad appeal to everyone- add this to the student population, the increasing number of people living in the city centre and we can get it back.
Do you think there is a market out there beyond the Plug and DQ? It seems to me that along with UG they have the club scene in Sheffield well and truly sewn up.
Agent Gypo 14-11-2007, 17:34 Do you think there is a market out there beyond the Plug and DQ? It seems to me that along with UG they have the club scene in Sheffield well and truly sewn up.
There's definitely a market! I haven't been to DQ in almost a year, and Plug probably only 3 or possibly 4 times. Nothing against the venues, they just rarely put on events that interest me. Although I was tempted by Plump DJs as I don't recall seeing them live before, but DMX Krew is playing in Nottingham!
I think that its fairly simple to get it back- we need a council who are clubber friendly and who will allow more clubs to open in the city centre (not like club sshh who are miles out)
Have the council stopped any clubs from opening in the centre? Not that I know of in the past few years. Any new clubs have been given permission. The Carling Academy has. I think Oceana was, but hasn't got any further than that. And that's about all that have been proposed.
I'm hoping with the new Moor and Sevenstone developments we may get a couple more venues (along with the Academy). I know Sevenstone has a nightclubs space in it, as does the new markets building on the Moor.
There's definitely a market! I haven't been to DQ in almost a year, and Plug probably only 3 or possibly 4 times. Nothing against the venues, they just rarely put on events that interest me. Although I was tempted by Plump DJs as I don't recall seeing them live before, but DMX Krew is playing in Nottingham!
You reckon? Everyone I speak to who is involved in the club scene in Sheffield seem to think it's already saturated. Plug and DQ seem to battle it out on a weekly basis for the majority of the Sheffield crowd.
discodown 14-11-2007, 18:53 Its fair to say the sheffield scene is becoming stale. Too much electro and not enough anything else. Last time i went to plug when Coldcut were on and doing a hiphop and VJ set there were more people in that room than the main room.
Sheffield is a funny city, clubbers seem apathetic when top quality DJ's play but moan theres never anything on, yet don't support people when something new is tried. This means that promoters are on the whole a bit reluctant to try anything because the fickle sheffield scene can pack a night one month and leave it dead in the water the next.
Plug is the only club with the money to take risks and when they do their promo team is so good it invariably pays off.
Agent Gypo 14-11-2007, 19:03 You reckon? Everyone I speak to who is involved in the club scene in Sheffield seem to think it's already saturated. Plug and DQ seem to battle it out on a weekly basis for the majority of the Sheffield crowd.
Yeah, if a night is good enough and promoted well enough then people will always go. I'm not really swayed by big names (although if someone can persuade Aphex Twin to come to Sheffield I'll buy you a pint...), and I find a lot of what goes on is pretty run-of-the-mill.
Agent Gypo 14-11-2007, 19:08 Plug is the only club with the money to take risks and when they do their promo team is so good it invariably pays off.
What kind of risks do you mean?
I'm holding out for some banjo nights.
discodown 14-11-2007, 19:15 What kind of risks do you mean?
I'm holding out for some banjo nights.I mean that because they have 3 rooms they are willing to be more flexible with their music policy and showcase some mostly ignored forms of dance music such as hardcore
discodown 14-11-2007, 19:15 Yeah, if a night is good enough and promoted well enough then people will always go. I'm not really swayed by big names (although if someone can persuade Aphex Twin to come to Sheffield I'll buy you a pint...), and I find a lot of what goes on is pretty run-of-the-mill.Good luck in finding a venue
I feel a sense of Deja Vu.....
Isn't it funny how threads on Sheffield nightlife always come back to this.
discodown 14-11-2007, 19:22 theres so little else to talk about!
Either that or we're obsessed. My missus would say the latter.
Agent Gypo 14-11-2007, 19:33 Good luck in finding a venue
I don't think it's a question of venue, more whether he can be arsed to do it. Doesn't strike me as though he likes playing live.
We should all chip in and buy a venue..... :)
Too much electro and not enough anything else
Too much electro!?! All I can find is crappy pop and indie.:confused:
I mean:
Embrace - Pop, RnB, a bit of dance
Leadmill - Pop, Indie
Corporation - who knows, but i'm pretty sure it's not electro
Plug - Pop, Indie, Electro
Club Shhh - I dunno, but again, I don't think it's that much electro.
And that's really all the big clubs. So only really the Plug which has an electro room.
Plug tries to cover as many genres as possible.
Zogg -- Psy trance / Trance
Uprising -- Happy Hardcore
Reflective -- Baseline House
Detonate -- Drum n bass & hip hop
Jump Around -- indie pop // 80's // House
Easy -- Rnb // pop // house
Shuffle -- house // electro // indie // live music // occasional hip hop etc (hence the name shuffle)
Off the Rails -- Trance
Urban Gorilla -- House/Techno/Breakbeat
Grounded -- as above
Plug Live --- jeez everything from Jazz to Ambient to Punk
If we played the same music every night we'd be bankrupt.
Yes we do take risks on bookings, and often we lose money, however our extremely successful nights (i wont name them) end up bank rolling these.
We are always open to ideas from promoters who want to put on events, the bulk of our Fridays are now external hires.
I do tire of some of the comments on these threads. Most of Sheffields and other cities venues and bars are struggling. At a recent council meeting i was advised we have an extra 20,000 capacity of licensed premises now, than we did in 1980. Do the math, whilst we may not loads of huge venues we have plenty small venues/restaurants/bars/clubs. Not all of them can be on the right side of the bank manager.
There are shedloads of bookings we'd like to bring to the city, but our attendance records unfortunately for similar events dont always marry the monies some of these artists want. And you can bet your bottom dollar if some of them were booked, id be reading complaints on the door entry fee!
Instead of the same old moans & winges, why dont you all get together, put a proposal together and sit down with us or another venue to see if its feasible????
ps....Aphex Twin has been hounded by us for moons.....
discodown 14-11-2007, 21:50 Plug tries to cover as many genres as possible.
Zogg -- Psy trance / Trance
Uprising -- Happy Hardcore
Reflective -- Baseline House
Detonate -- Drum n bass & hip hop
Jump Around -- indie pop // 80's // House
Easy -- Rnb // pop // house
Shuffle -- house // electro // indie // live music // occasional hip hop etc (hence the name shuffle)
Off the Rails -- Trance
Urban Gorilla -- House/Techno/Breakbeat
Grounded -- as above
Plug Live --- jeez everything from Jazz to Ambient to Punk
If we played the same music every night we'd be bankrupt.
Yes we do take risks on bookings, and often we lose money, however our extremely successful nights (i wont name them) end up bank rolling these.
We are always open to ideas from promoters who want to put on events, the bulk of our Fridays are now external hires.
I do tire of some of the comments on these threads. Most of Sheffields and other cities venues and bars are struggling. At a recent council meeting i was advised we have an extra 20,000 capacity of licensed premises now, than we did in 1980. Do the math, whilst we may not loads of huge venues we have plenty small venues/restaurants/bars/clubs. Not all of them can be on the right side of the bank manager.
There are shedloads of bookings we'd like to bring to the city, but our attendance records unfortunately for similar events dont always marry the monies some of these artists want. And you can bet your bottom dollar if some of them were booked, id be reading complaints on the door entry fee!
Instead of the same old moans & winges, why dont you all get together, put a proposal together and sit down with us or another venue to see if its feasible????
ps....Aphex Twin has been hounded by us for moons.....Well said, although i'm a huge plug supporter and know that if it wasn't the plug the sheffield scene would be virtually zero. I say more power to you.
that said i am a bit dissapointed that theres no more love to be
discodown 14-11-2007, 21:51 Too much electro!?! All I can find is crappy pop and indie.:confused:
I mean:
Embrace - Pop, RnB, a bit of dance
Leadmill - Pop, Indie
Corporation - who knows, but i'm pretty sure it's not electro
Plug - Pop, Indie, Electro
Club Shhh - I dunno, but again, I don't think it's that much electro.
And that's really all the big clubs. So only really the Plug which has an electro room.plug are all about electro, DQ is virtually nothing else
who said theres no more love to be.....;)
plug are all about electro, DQ is virtually nothing else
No, plug have one small room for electro, plus some electro events. The rest of it is indie/pop/other stuff - green has listed a whole load above. DQ is a lot of electro yes, but this is still only 2 venues in the whole city.
An green. Plug does a great job, and as discodown say, without it the cities nightlife would be nothing.:thumbsup:
Plug tries to cover as many genres as possible.
Zogg -- Psy trance / Trance
Uprising -- Happy Hardcore
Reflective -- Baseline House
Detonate -- Drum n bass & hip hop
Jump Around -- indie pop // 80's // House
Easy -- Rnb // pop // house
Shuffle -- house // electro // indie // live music // occasional hip hop etc (hence the name shuffle)
Off the Rails -- Trance
Urban Gorilla -- House/Techno/Breakbeat
Grounded -- as above
Plug Live --- jeez everything from Jazz to Ambient to Punk
If we played the same music every night we'd be bankrupt.
Yes we do take risks on bookings, and often we lose money, however our extremely successful nights (i wont name them) end up bank rolling these.
We are always open to ideas from promoters who want to put on events, the bulk of our Fridays are now external hires.
I do tire of some of the comments on these threads. Most of Sheffields and other cities venues and bars are struggling. At a recent council meeting i was advised we have an extra 20,000 capacity of licensed premises now, than we did in 1980. Do the math, whilst we may not loads of huge venues we have plenty small venues/restaurants/bars/clubs. Not all of them can be on the right side of the bank manager.
There are shedloads of bookings we'd like to bring to the city, but our attendance records unfortunately for similar events dont always marry the monies some of these artists want. And you can bet your bottom dollar if some of them were booked, id be reading complaints on the door entry fee!
Instead of the same old moans & winges, why dont you all get together, put a proposal together and sit down with us or another venue to see if its feasible????
ps....Aphex Twin has been hounded by us for moons.....
What do you mean by 'the same old whinges'? No one is having a go at promoters on this thread (or not what I can see anyway). It's all well and good saying you'd be happy to sit down with a group of us to discuss any plans but we don't all have hundreds or thousands of pounds to throw away on launching and sustaining a night. My own personal view is that it is too difficult to find small venues to launch independent nights which in turn support the larger nights such as yours. Venue owners have their rent to pay and would rather have their venue full with a tried and tested formula than take the risk on a new venture. If it was me, I'd be the same.
DMC thought so, they voted it the greatest clubnight in the world
it was the best night in the world for a short period dring the Black and Red days, but after that they lost the cathedral top of the night trance sound and went a bit off, but when it was on song there was nothing to compare
Agent Gypo 15-11-2007, 00:03 We really should get together and try and do something...
What do you mean by 'the same old whinges'? No one is having a go at promoters on this thread (or not what I can see anyway). It's all well and good saying you'd be happy to sit down with a group of us to discuss any plans but we don't all have hundreds or thousands of pounds to throw away on launching and sustaining a night. My own personal view is that it is too difficult to find small venues to launch independent nights which in turn support the larger nights such as yours. Venue owners have their rent to pay and would rather have their venue full with a tried and tested formula than take the risk on a new venture. If it was me, I'd be the same.
zogg/uprising/reflective/urban gorilla/detonate etc all started in a small back room or small venue somewhere.....long (in uprising's case 12 yrs ago) before they came to plug.
razor stiletto whom used to host parties at ours also started at fez club...
you have to take a risk if your looking at something long term.
Off the Rails that recently moved to us, ensured there were several people within the group financing it, so that the losses would be reduced. i think they turned a profit on their last event.
Some venue owners will look at a proposal and if feasible, share the risk with you.... you just need to put a good case forward!
Craig Holmes 15-11-2007, 01:43 Isnt Nylon an electro venue on weekends?
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