By May 2006 Wetherspoons aim to have banned smoking throughout its 650 pubs.

They claim that it's affecting business and are acting in advance of the governments own agenda.

What do you think of this idea?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4201053.stm

I agree 100% with it, I look forward to the day when we'll be able to walk out of all pubs not stinking like an ashtray.

A total ban on smoking in pubs can't come quick enough IMO.

It suits the ethos of their original business plan. Dunno about the Sheffield one, but others were established with the 30 somethings in mind, and with an emphasis on good beer and good food at good prices.

Unfortunately this has attracted a large quantity of people who spend their dole cheques in there of an afternoon. Perhaps the smoking ban is a quiet way of saying 'no' to this sector of the 'market'?

Don't forget I said 'Dunno about Sheffield...'

Watch there profits tumble im afraid!!!!

Has anyone ever been in a wetherspoons midweek during the day?? Its all middle/elderly men - taking advantage of the cheap drinks- when this happens they are going to loose a BIG chunk of there market.

Good for peoples health- i don't mind anyway - BUT- bad for there profits!!!

Being a former smoker I can see uproar on its way from Smokers on this proposal.. Wetherspoons are jumping the gun but the plan is to ban it in all public places ?

However having been out with friends Friday night in a smoky pub its not the nicest environment to be in..

Should be a few interesting replies on this one

Here here!

They smoke, I smell like an ashtray and they expect me not to complain...I drink, and yet when I **** up their legs they scream the place down!

I don't smoke so personally, a ban doesn't bother me. However, I always took people smoking in pubs as a given on a night out, and equally I wouldn't be that concerned if they decided not to ban smoking. I think it will upset smokers more than it will please non smokers...

Originally posted by scottf
Watch there profits tumble im afraid!!!!

Has anyone ever been in a wetherspoons midweek during the day?? Its all middle/elderly men - taking advantage of the cheap drinks- when this happens they are going to loose a BIG chunk of there market.

Good for peoples health- i don't mind anyway - BUT- bad for there profits!!!

I think that's who they're planning to loose. Those guys hog seats and nurse pints, so the profitability of those customers is low. By excluding them, they're more likely to attract office workers with limited time in for lunch.

Much better from a business point of view :thumbsup:

I heard the interview with Tim Martin on the news this morning - I like the idea personally but then I don't smoke. It's just a shame that none of the Sheffield Wetherspoons are included in the ones they're changing to non smoking by May this year

Banning smoking still won't entice me into one of their "establishments".

Originally posted by nick2
Banning smoking still won't entice me into one of their "establishments".

Maybe so, but for example if it was another establishment that you WOULD grace with your presence does a smoky pub bother you or do you think its right to ban it ? :suspect:

I think it's great news - roll on the day when all public eating and drinking establishments are smoke free

Originally posted by Rich
I agree 100% with it, I look forward to the day when we'll be able to walk out of all pubs not stinking like an ashtray.

A total ban on smoking in pubs can't come quick enough IMO.

Couldn't agree more with this post!

I went for one pint after work on Friday in the Red Deer (possibly the smokiest pub known to mankind, but the beer is so lovely) and came home stinking - I even had to wash my coat!!!

P.S. Deejay - love the fact that you are now a "former smoker". Well done mate :clap: :banana:

Originally posted by Deejay
Maybe so, but for example if it was another establishment that you WOULD grace with your presence does a smoky pub bother you or do you think its right to ban it ? :suspect:

I used to smoke, but I don't now, if somewhere is realy, rely smoky I don't go there, I think forcing pubs to have very powerfull air conditioning systems or seperate non-smoking areas would be a better idea. I think it sould be discouraged in restaurants, but most of my mates who smoke don't do so in restaurants anyway.

There are several Weatherspoon's in sheffield. Because the drink is so cheap you tend to get a certain class of people in there all day long, who tend to smoke, and spend every last copper in their pockets on drink.
One of my friends used to work there and told me this, and said he used to be constantly annoyed by a couple of quote "slimy alcoholic postmen, who looked like tramps"

It annoys me intently that although the ceiling in the woodseats palace is very high, and the non smoking area is very clearly marked, my clothes still stink like an ashtray after spending a couple of hours there.
I for one look forward to the time when the majority of the population (who don't smoke) have at least one place to go locally, when they don't have to suffer 2nd hand smoke. The only other place nearby is the no smoking room in the white lion down the road, which is often full at the weekend.

This move will definitely be the saviour of pubs.

Originally posted by pussycat
P.S. Deejay - love the fact that you are now a "former smoker".

Thank you :D

I agree with most of the comments on here, I agree it should be banned full stop in restaurants and especially around food (which always annoyed me as a smoker anyway) :gag:

Originally posted by pussycat
I went for one pint after work on Friday in the Red Deer (possibly the smokiest pub known to mankind, but the beer is so lovely) and came home stinking - I even had to wash my coat!!!
I agree the Deer is fantastic but not the smokiest, Try the Washington, fantastic pub but ruined by thick fumes all the time

I would be happier if there were smoking pubs and non-smoking pubs, so smokers can drink and smoke if they want to, and non-smokers can go to another pub where it's smoke free.

I want everyone to have the ability to do what they want.

I wont have to go to that soul destroying pit again:clap:

That smoking will be banned is the best news I have heard till now.
But why the delay get it done this year not next. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by nick2
I would be happier if there were smoking pubs and non-smoking pubs, so smokers can drink and smoke if they want to, and non-smokers can go to another pub where it's smoke free.

I want everyone to have the ability to do what they want.

Good point, but almost all pubs currently have a large bunch of smokers who block the bar area. And non smokers just don't want to go in, or can't go in because of the smoke.

It seems to me that most pub tenants are smokers themselves. If there were more opportunities for non smoking pubs, then people who didn't smoke may be more inclined to run pubs.

It's a sad fact that at the moment there are only about 3 pubs which I know of where there is a proper no smoking room, in sheffield, at the same time as the majority of the population don't smoke and dont enjoy using pubs because of smoke. As smoking declines, if things are left the same, more and more pubs will go out of business. And none of us want that.

Once they have banned smoking, maybe they can stop selling drinks to people who have obviously had too much. Then they can stop the cheap drinks promotions which are creating so much of the trouble in and around pubs.

I'd rather smell of smoke than get caught up in the carnage of a night out in town.

(I'm a non-smoker)

There's a rumour that Wetherspoons are thinking of banning drinking alcohol on their premises on account of all the trouble alcohol causes in our wonderful society.
Really it would be better to ban everything , starting with Wetherspoons.

Originally posted by sheffexpat
There's a rumour that Wetherspoons are thinking of banning drinking alcohol
Well to be honest, sometimes you go in and there's hardly any beer left, they run out of stuff so regularly..

maybe they could get their customers to p*ss it back into the barrels rather than all over the street.

Not sure who would notice either.

Originally posted by Siân
I heard the interview with Tim Martin on the news this morning - I like the idea personally but then I don't smoke. It's just a shame that none of the Sheffield Wetherspoons are included in the ones they're changing to non smoking by May this year

I was listening to a report on Real radio and it was from a Wetherspoons in Sheffield which will ban smoking this may with the rest to follow next year. It didn't say which one it was but I assume the main Wetherspoons on Cambridge street.

it was from a Wetherspoons in Sheffield which will ban smoking this may

I'll keep my fingers crossed then but the BBC report said the ones this May would be in London, Aberdeen, Newcastle, Glasgow, Bristol, Birmingham and Nottingham.

What's not been mentioned are the employees.

It is fast becoming their right to work in a smoke-free environment and I suspect it's potential lawsuits from Wetherspoon employees prompting this change.

Originally posted by Siân
I'll keep my fingers crossed then but the BBC report said the ones this May would be in London, Aberdeen, Newcastle, Glasgow, Bristol, Birmingham and Nottingham.

Cambridge Street is on the list of those going smoke-free this May.

http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/nosmoking/index.php

Sham 71 totally agree with you. Agree with smoking and none smoking areas but let's stop persecuting the smoker.

Next thing they'll be selling alcohol free drinks.

Considering that everything we do is bad for us, why are people living longer?

EXCESS ALCOHOL CAUSES LIVER DISEASE, AND WE, THE TAX PAYING SCUM OF THE EARTH SMOKERS, ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR TREATMENT - let's lay off the smokers for a bit heah - all these adverts on TV aimed at smokers when there are just as many dying from liver disease and over eating.

Come to think of it, the person who instigaged all this by suing her employers suffered with asthma and was probably at least three stone overweight - suppose that had no bearing on her condition.


Is Wetherspoons also going to restrict what people drink so that others aren't inflicted by the drunken morons - doubt it, that would affect their profits.

I hope smokers vote with their feet and walk away from Wetherspoons - hit them where it hurts, in their pockets

Cambridge Street is on the list of those going smoke-free this May.

Thanks - I guess the BBC's report wasn't that extensive.

I hope smokers vote with their feet and walk away from Wetherspoons

They'll have to if they want to smoke :D

I also hope that smokers vote with their feet and then we who dont smoke can have a pint without being fed cancer causing substances.:thumbsup:

yeah, bet you drive one though - cancer causing substance - your vehicle - FACT - walk to work through traffic, equivalent of 26 cigs a day - but then you are prejudiced aren't you

Originally posted by sally_sheff
EXCESS ALCOHOL CAUSES LIVER DISEASE, AND WE, THE TAX PAYING SCUM OF THE EARTH SMOKERS, ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR TREATMENT - let's lay off the smokers for a bit heah - all these adverts on TV aimed at smokers when there are just as many dying from liver disease and over eating.

This is true sally_sheff but a heavy drinker or over eater will only damage their own health.

Passive smoking is real and yes people may have the right to smoke themselves into an early grave if they wish but they should not have the right to impose one on the rest of the non-smoking public. If people want to smoke, they should only do so in their own place... not public ones!

see my above reply - what about the car user? FACT not FICTION - are you all going to start cycling to work?

But the thread isn't about car use or pollution. It's about smoking.

But isn't that what it's all about, smokers causing pollution and damaging people's health? Oh come on you non smoking car drivers, stop discriminating - pollution is pollution - so what if someone turned round tomorrow and said you had to stop driving your vehicles?

Originally posted by sally_sheff
I hope smokers vote with their feet and walk away from Wetherspoons

I hope so too - in fact...im looking forward to it!

Fed up of crawling home fri/say smelling like an ashtray - I think Carmine sums it up:

They smoke, I smell like an ashtray and they expect me not to complain...I drink, and yet when I **** up their legs they scream the place down! :hihi: :hihi:

Try sticking to the thread and not going on some crusade against car owners.
Your rights as a smoker end at my nostrills,simple as that.:rant:

Two thoughts have popped into my head.
1. When some-one has had a few drinks and lights up who is going to have the job of removing them from the premises or stopping them smoking, alcohol fuels bad behaviour and I've worked in a pub I wouldn't like to try and persuade a drunk to do something I want unless I'd got a couple of bouncers to back me up.
2' My last two girlfriends and plenty of friends smoke, where are we going to go if they can't smoke whilst having a drink?
Air conditioning units are sufficiently powerfull nowadays that there is no reason why a pub has to be smoke logged or are some people just being hyper sensitive.
By the way I'm a non-smoker

Well those who smoke can always go outside and kill themselves instead of killing us.
I long for the day when we are like america ,I recently went to california and it was great with no smokers in site.

Originally posted by royjames
Well those who smoke can always go outside and kill themselves instead of killing us.
I long for the day when we are like america ,I recently went to california and it was great with no smokers in site.

I couldn't agree more!!! :thumbsup:
Smokers are one of the main reasons why I hate pubs/bars - I feel like I'm suffocating in there! If people are stupid enough to smoke that's up to them but they should not impose it on the rest of us who choose to breathe fresh air!!!

Maybe we ought to have a poll on this and see if the forum users agree with us??:thumbsup:

Originally posted by royjames
Maybe we ought to have a poll on this and see if the forum users agree with us??:thumbsup:
I agree, was something I was thinking earlier when I first saw this thread.

Roy, is this or is it not all about polluting peoples airspace?

You are obviously a car owner and equally as selfish as a smoker - don't like the idea of a crusade against car owners heah?

Everyone is entitled to their opinions I agree but yours are not worthy - you appear to discriminate against everything, muslims, prams, germans etc, nor can you enter into discussions without aggression, therefore I leave you to your "crusade"

It's not only the driving [unnecessarily] of cars that causes pollution but the manafacture of them too---plus all the raw material that has to be assembled first,Look how cars have ruined city centres and other area. People used to get their kids to school and do their shopping and visit friends without a car----in fact of course they still do.I can't think how the manafacture of cigarettes causes a lot of pollution.
It's o.k. saying " the rights of smokers ends at my nose end " God , how many things could we ban if we applied that to all the things that annoyed us , including cars.
What puzzles smokers is that smoking seems to have been singled out as a special case---hence the argument about cars. The anti---smoking propoganda is getting baby--ish too. If you see a character smoking in a film or on T.V. you can bet your life he or she is some sort of villain......and so on ...ad nauseam.

What puzzles smokers is that smoking seems to have been singled out as a special case---hence the argument about cars.

Small point - cars are used for a purpose. The pollution is the price we pay.

I'm still hunting for an equivalent purpose of cigarettes... Will let you know if I think of one :)

I'm no great lover of smoke logged pubs and will if possible stay out of the snug as that is usually very smaoky indeed. However most pubs aren't smoking dens and it is very rare for me to come out of a pub smelling of smoke and I've usually been sat with at least one smoker. Smokers and smoking have been blown up out of all proportion with hyped up scare stories and I'm a lot more aware of breathing in fumes whilst walking in the 'fresh air' down Abbeydale road.

Originally posted by sally_sheff
Roy, is this or is it not all about polluting peoples airspace?

You are obviously a car owner and equally as selfish as a smoker - don't like the idea of a crusade against car owners heah?


How predicatable! A smoker always has to justify their arguments by equally blaming any other source of pollution caused by people. I'm sure everyone can see the difference between a car owner and a smoker. This is as bad as saying people who eat chocolate are damaging their bodies as much as smokers - absolute rubbish!!

Yes, cars pollute, and although there is no real excuse for harming the earth, transport is a damn site more useful and essential than smokers who pointlessly damage their health and everyone else's.

Oh sally come on now what the hell has this got to do with muslims for gods sake??
I just dont like smeeling like a ash tray everytime I go out,simple.:hihi:

Originally posted by Siân
[B]Small point - cars are used for a purpose. The pollution is the price we pay/B]

Cars on the whole do not have a legitimate purpose they are used because people are lazy or only interested in their own well being. Roll on the next petrol tanker strike.

Originally posted by WallBuilder
Two thoughts have popped into my head.
1. When some-one has had a few drinks and lights up who is going to have the job of removing them from the premises or stopping them smoking,
2' My last two girlfriends and plenty of friends smoke, where are we going to go if they can't smoke whilst having a drink?
Air conditioning units are sufficiently powerfull nowadays that there is no reason why a pub has to be smoke logged or are some people just being hyper sensitive.
WallBuilder,
1)I think that the removing people from the premises senario will be a very short-term problem. The fact that you can't smoke will be accepted extremely quickly. e.g. busses, theatres, cinemas, and I hear now football stadia too.
2)I could probably just about put up with a girlfriend who smoked very occasionally, this is something I have thought about very severely in the past, but not friends, and now only about 5% of my friends smoke. Most of the smokers I know gave up a decade ago.
3)there are many pubs which have electric air cleaners (not air conditioning), and these work quite well for a few days, until the filters get blocked. Case in point the washington, about 10 brown units with all lights on, all on full just getting warm and having no effect on the air quality at all. Even the white lion has a funny little air cleaner which just buzzes in the back bar and does nowt for the atmos at all.

Wallbuilder, nice to know that someone who is not a smoker is at least rational - my friends are non smokers, and have a similar point of view to yourself and she is a smoking counsellor.

As for making excuses, people take a blinkered view when it comes to pollution - at the end of the day if you're a non smoker and a car driver, you'll ignore the pollution caused by vehicles (which incidentally persons on foot have no option but to breathe in) and persecute the smoker. And, I agree, the smoker will defend their cause.

You non smokers are going to win anyway so don't get so uptight - we're following America.

I don't mind people smoking, I used to smoke myself. What I do mind is when its around food (kitchens, self service etc)

Some what missing the point, we can argue for or against smoking in pubs but eventually it will become law that pubs and restuarants are smoke free public establishments. All Wetherspoons are doing is jumping the gun early.

Dee

Hi Muddycoffee,
The places that do have a smoking ban already don't have a bar and sell alcohol and have a lot of semi intoxicated customers, trying to remove a drunk from a pub quietly is bad enough but trying to get them to put a cigarette out?.... I think that;s going to cause problems.
If pubs have air cleaners in that aren't up to the task or simply aren't working surely there could be laws brought in to enforce this and air monitoring people to check up on premises.
Friends who smoke know i hate it if they blow smoke in my face or light up in a restaurant whilst people are eating, they respect my feelings on this. I've been out briefly with one chain smoker and she did pong of smoke as did her clothes but other girl friends have been light smokers and so I've never been aware of smoke on them and jokes about kissing a chimney stack don't go down at all well.

Originally posted by sally_sheff
nice to know that someone who is not a smoker is at least rational
How can you mention rationality, when smoking kills half of all smokers?

If I had the choice of going to a non-smoking pub and my mates having to keep going outside for a fag, or going to smoking pub with good air conditioning where we could all sit together and have a chat etc. then I would go to the smoking pub.

I'm convinced that walking into town every morning alongside stationary traffic pouring out (obviously neccessary) fumes, lead and carbon-monoxide does me more harm than sitting in a pub for a few hours a week with people smoking.

Originally posted by nick2
I'm convinced that walking into town every morning alongside stationary traffic pouring out (obviously neccessary) fumes, lead and carbon-monoxide does me more harm than sitting in a pub for a few hours a week with people smoking.
Nick2, for the last 10 years petrol with lead in it has not been on sale, and as a consequence there is no lead in the fumes, and since all cars on the road now have catalytic converters, there is no carbon monoxide either.

Originally posted by muddycoffee
How can you mention rationality, when smoking kills half of all smokers?

I've often been interested in the statistics for smoking related illnesses being bandied about, I suppose if you'd got two groups living in pllastic bubbles and allowed one group to smoke then you might have a leg to stand on. In todays society we are surrounded by pollutants and if I understand it correctly cancers can be caused by a multitude of things, how then can they say that the cancer that kills a smoker was brought on because they smoked possibly ignoring the fact that they worked in an asbestos producing plant maybe?

Originally posted by muddycoffee
Nick2, for the last 10 years petrol with lead in it has not been on sale, and as a consequence there is no lead in the fumes, and since all cars on the road now have catalytic converters, there is no carbon monoxide either.

Ok, so it's perfectly safe. Would you like to be locked in a garage with a car engine running for about 10 minutes ?

Talk sense.

Sian says that cars are used for a purpose. The whole point is that for roughly half the time , the purpose is convenience or for pleasure. ["Let's go for a lovely little ride into Derbyshire "]. Why can't people get up earlier and walk their kids to school or take public transport ? Answer is that they prefer to pay for something they want to do but which is NOT a necessity.
Smokers pay to smoke because they like smoking---it makes them feel relaxed : there is no other purpose than that.
The problem with non--smokers is that they've believed so much of the anti--smoking propoganda that they probably think people smoke just to annoy other people.
Another aspect is that an increasing number of control freaks would like to ban everything that doesn't give THEM enjoyment. I wonder how many things have been banned in the past 5 years alone ?

muddycoffee, as I said my friend is a qualified smoking counsellor and she confirms that a walk through heavy traffic is more polluting than sitting in a room of smokers.

Most people will agree that smoking is not good for you but, with the aid of the government, it has been hyped out of all proportion, notwithstanding the many other pollutants around us that are equally, if not more damaging.

I agree that there should be smoking and no smoking areas - I also think pubs and public places should have sufficient ventilation.

Putting aside the fact that I smoke I am a responsible adult, I am as considerate as possible in my habit, would not smoke whilst people are eating and would not blow smoke into someone's face.

However, I am sick and tired of non smokers making out that we are the scum of the earth, and they are a cut above.

I'm a smoker, but when I was an ex-smoker (long story) I hated going in pubs and smelling of smoke.

As a smoker I still hate smelling of smoke and I don't smoke in restaurants. If I'm sat with others, I always ask if anyone minds if I smoke.

I'd love to stop, and the sooner a total ban on smoking in public places is passed the better!

the one in sheffield is crap anyway - it has no atmosphere, id rather pay more and have a pub with atmosphere!!

Each to their own! I don't mind Wetherspoons, at least you can have a half decent conversation in there.

Still think Trippets is the tops though!

I am an ex-smoker. Was a smoker until a week ago...

I really don't care whether pubs are non smoking or not. It's for each one to decide based upon theor clientle!

K X

Two weeks to go till smoking is banned in the wetherspoons pub in town,cant wait to go into the place and be able to breathe fresh air.:thumbsup:

Originally posted by muddycoffee
How can you mention rationality, when smoking kills half of all smokers?

Rationality? - if it only kills half the smokers then that means the other half gets to live! :D :hihi:

Not smoking does not give you mortality. My grandma smoked, lived to be 84 and died peacefully.

A friend of mine lost her husband aged 27, of cancer, leaving her with 3 children under 5 - he had never smoked and never went out into smokey pubs - he was a family man devoted to taking care of his kids. My philosophy is enjoy each day - when your number's up it's up.

Originally posted by royjames
Two weeks to go till smoking is banned in the wetherspoons pub in town,cant wait to go into the place and be able to breathe fresh air.:thumbsup:

Although considering the clientele (especially in the day) you probably don't want to smell them :gag:

anyone know when it's closing for the refurb?

Originally posted by royjames
Two weeks to go till smoking is banned in the wetherspoons pub in town,cant wait to go into the place and be able to breathe fresh air.:thumbsup: Be like one of your BNP meets aswell. Deserted, with only one or two whining little ******** there, because of their stupid ill-thought-through policies. A home from home.
And I don't smoke but I would not drink in a place that would challenge the liberties of its customers.

Originally posted by royjames
Two weeks to go till smoking is banned in the wetherspoons pub in town,cant wait to go into the place and be able to breathe fresh air.:thumbsup:

Even better Roy, wait till beer goes to £7 a pint as predicted - then you'll be able to breathe plenty of fresh air :headbang: :P

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Originally posted by miniminch
Be like one of your BNP meets aswell. Deserted, with only one or two whining little ******** there, because of their stupid ill-thought-through policies. A home from home.
And I don't smoke but I would not drink in a place that would challenge the liberties of its customers.

by allowing smoking in public you are denying me my liberty of not having to stink & breathe in fag smoke.

let them ban it if they want im sure time will tell if it has been a sucess or not , anyway weatherspoons pubs are a bit crap and quite a lot of us smokers wouldnt be seen dead in one of them

wetherspoons have announced today a loss in profits since they introduced a ban on smoking

Most places that ban smoking never revert to the previous situation. It seems that once the nettle has been grasped most people don't want to return to what went before.

The days are numberd for the nicotine addict and it cant come soon enough,why not make it illegal to smoke ? then we can all breathe clean air for once.
Screw the smokers.

Well said , Roy and so intelligently put !
As soon as we rid our great country of those party-pooping polluters , the sooner we will all be able to walk round our streets and not be knocked over by the smoke pouring out from those nasty cigarettes.
Also , we'll be able to walk into lovely pubs like Weatherspoons and not be met by a blanket of fog.What an improvement that'll make to our lives !
I know there's more crime and violence on the streets , more sexual disease , more unwanted pregnancies , more vehicle fumes in the air , more threats of terrorism to come , more curtailing of civil liberties , more racial tension , more problems with obesity , more people on disability allowances and more drug taking and binge-drinking .......but you have gone straight for the jugular......the big problem is nicotine and we must stamp that out first and no mistake !
Your priorities concerning our wonderful country are bang on , as usual .

Originally posted by Fareast
I know there's more crime and violence on the streets , more sexual disease , more unwanted pregnancies , more vehicle fumes in the air , more threats of terrorism to come , more curtailing of civil liberties , more racial tension , more problems with obesity , more people on disability allowances and more drug taking and binge-drinking .......but you have gone straight for the jugular......the big problem is nicotine and we must stamp that out first and no mistake !
Your priorities concerning our wonderful country are bang on , as usual .

And all of the folks guilty of the above crimes are smokers.
Without exception.
Makes you think dunnit? :D

You're quite right there , Don , as usual.
Only the other day , I spotted an elderly man in the pub , puffin' away on a pipe. He must have drunk 4 pints in less than 2 hours and then left. There is no doubt in my mind that he did a bit of shop-lifting on the way home and then proceeded to batter his wife and children.
Such blots on our fair land should be locked up for a minimum of 5 years and be banned from Weatherspoons for life.Billions of people are croaking every year from passive smoking and I put it all down , ultimately to George Bush and the giant American Tobacco Companies.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if George Bush and Donald Bumsfelt were both secret puffers . After all , that Clinton had his nasty , under-the-desk , little , habits , too , didn't he ?

Lol OK I may gone over the top somewhat last night with my post but I had just finished working on the doors of a pub and the smoke was like A BLOODY BLANKET IN THE PLACE.:gag:
But I still think it needs to be banned in public,it is going to happen before too long and I am sorry but those who smoke wil have to toe the line in the same way that hunters have had to abide by the law of the land.
Anyway is it such a big deal for smokers to nip outside and have a fag?;)

Yawn! Just more anti-smoking drivel.

I say it would be great if all smokers stopped suddenly for a short period of time and sat back to watch the economy and the faces of those people who suddenly get a massive increase in the stoppages from their wage packets to counter the loss in revenue from tobacco sales.

But please - carry on. Yawn!

Dragon

Originally posted by scottf
Watch there profits tumble im afraid!!!!

Has anyone ever been in a wetherspoons midweek during the day?? Its all middle/elderly men - taking advantage of the cheap drinks- when this happens they are going to loose a BIG chunk of there market.

Good for peoples health- i don't mind anyway - BUT- bad for there profits!!!

That was my initial reaction, but they will surely be aware of this ?

there on a winner there cheap beer and smoke free pubs

surely with Wetherspoons the fact taht it is so cheap will keep people going. I've often sat in the non-snoking area 9due to it being busy) and got up and gobne to the other side of the pub to have a fag.

I don't see why smokers wont go outside. In fact, it'll probably be one of my regrets about giving up. I think you'll meet many people having a fag outside huddling together.

I think that its bloody stupid bringing in a law about non-smoking in pubs.

Non-smoking pubs yes, but not a law.

It is ridiculous :loopy:

From The Times:

JD WETHERSPOON, the pub operator, yesterday suffered a setback to its plan to transform all of its pubs into smoke-free areas after revealing a 7 per cent decline in sales at the first of its pubs to introduce a ban.
Tim Martin, founder and chairman, said that at the 29 pubs that had so far been converted to non-smoking, there had been a “big swing from bar sales to lower-margin food sales and a consequential increase in labour costs”.


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Oh My God ------please don't let the Smokers back into Weatherspoons !
How about all us non-smokers organising a march through Sheffield City Centre , one Saturday , with some banners.

'Clean Air For Weatherspoons---You Know It Makes Sense'

Talking about , "banners " , the next target should be people smoking at home in front of their children.

Anyone up for it ?
We could organise a Red Nose Day or a Filter On The Nose Day or something on those lines. That should make sensible people think !!

Never mind the sight of smoke in the air will soon be a thing of the past in wetherspoons pubs.:thumbsup:
Lets hope that other pub chains follow suit soon,mind you they wont have much choice before too long. :D

Originally posted by Andy
JD WETHERSPOON, the pub operator, yesterday suffered a setback to its plan to transform all of its pubs into smoke-free areas after revealing a 7 per cent decline in sales at the first of its pubs to introduce a ban.....
Well now! Isn't that a surprise!:rolleyes:

Seems all you non-smokers will have to start drinking more and eating less, or Wetherspoons may have a change of policy! :D

Originally posted by Pseudonym
Well now! Isn't that a surprise!:rolleyes:

Seems all you non-smokers will have to start drinking more and eating less, or Wetherspoons may have a change of policy! :D

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Like it was ever a good idea anyway :loopy:

Originally posted by Fareast
Oh My God ------please don't let the Smokers back into Weatherspoons !
How about all us non-smokers organising a march through Sheffield City Centre , one Saturday , with some banners.


How about you get your arse down to Wetherspoons for a pint, you now have what you wanted, a non-smoking pub, so use the bloody thing.

Just looking for some feedback regarding the Wetherspoons on Cambridge Street, which as of Friday 16th September, will be totally non-smoking.

There will be an area, namely the beer garden, where people will be able to satisfy their cravings (for tobacco), but as for the entirity of the interior it will be a stern no-no.

Being a smoker myself I am a bit unsure of the response this move will get from the friendly smoke loving people of sheffield, so any feedback that people give will I am sure be interesting.

Cheers
chris

I already thought it was!!

I thought that one went non-smoking in May 2005!!

Shows you how often I go into town drinking!!

:o

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Originally posted by chris1975
There will be an area, namely the beer garden, where people will be able to satisfy their cravings (for tobacco), but as for the entirity of the interior it will be a stern no-no.


So where's the problem?

Nothing wrong with nipping outside for a cigarette\cigar

Not a problem for the civilised members of society who actually care for anyone else, but are they really in the majority?

I think not.

I thought that one went non-smoking in May 2005!!

It was supposed to be but there was a last minute change of heart.

Roll on sept 16,it will be so nice to go to a town pub and not have to put up with fag smoke,lets hope the others in the city follow suit soon then we the vast majority who dont smoke will get the chance to enjoy a night out in town feeling much better.:thumbsup:

Well I wont be going there unless its sunny then :(

Still there are another 9 million bars in town so I aint that gutted.