I've lived here for 2 years near the centre and had never saw a prostitute until i was approached by one on a road up by the ski village. I mentioned it to my mate a long time resident of the area and he was shocked saying that sheffield has got a problem with prostitution.

Is he wrong or am i just to naive to spot them from late night revellers :-S

the red light district got moved as they used to be in a residential part of sheffield. Down towards west bar now, sometimes get approached when i have to drop my car off at the garage at neepsend

I live on Trippet Lane and when driving back from Crookes usually late at night (anywhere from 11pm to 1am) I frequently see prostitutes on Broad lane either by the Mappin Street church building, or on the other side of the road by the Broad Lane Sheffield Uni halls (which I think must be an international hall or something as I only ever see Chinese people going in and out of it!!). They also hang round by the BMW garage roundabout and sometimes on Trippet Lane.

A friend of mine was walking to my flat and was approached by a rather rough looking woman standing on the corner of Rockingham Street by the Job Centre Plus bit offering her "services" and asked him if he "fancied a good time" lol! - he declined (naturally!!) and hot footed it round!

I've also seen a disturbingly young looking girl on Portobello Street/Road by a bus stop actually getting into some bloke's car - could have been her dad maybe except she had on a tiny skirt and tons of make up and he looked nothing like her (plus you don't lean into your dad's car window for a minute, you just get in!!).

Gosh I'm alarmed about how many "hotspots" I know - not through being a visitor lol, just through either drivng or walking by on my way home.

I think Sheffield has still got a terrible problem with prostitution.

Now they are round the Wicker and Castle Markets - I have been approached on 2 different occasios when going from pub to pub.

Yeah, I remember a few years ago they did a documentary screened nationwide about the problems of prostitution here - it's one of the top 3 outside London I think.

I've mentioned this somewhere before but its worthy of a 2nd mention!!

One of my mates works just up from Griffin House, one morning a dirty skank came into their works asking for some busfare.

To cut a long story short, one of his workmates had a blowjob for 50p.

Tarts - you gotta love 'em!!!

Originally posted by coopster1974
I've mentioned this somewhere before but its worthy of a 2nd mention!!

One of my mates works just up from Griffin House, one morning a dirty skank came into their works asking for some busfare.

To cut a long story short, one of his workmates had a blowjob for 50p.
Holy ****!!

Some people really will do anything won't they! lol

Tarts - you gotta love 'em!!!

LOL!

I live close to the red light area near edward street flats and I get asked all the time for a (service),of course I DECLINE THE OFFER.
I have been quoted £5 for a blow job so your mate must have met a right slapper.
But at the end of the day its all about their drug habit and this needs to be addressed.

Originally posted by royjames
I live close to the red light area near edward street flats and I get asked all the time for a (service),of course I DECLINE THE OFFER.
I have been quoted £5 for a blow job so your mate must have met a right slapper.
But at the end of the day its all about their drug habit and this needs to be addressed.

Yes - it was noted that she had track marks all over and a nice gash on her leg with a scabby bandage on it but........ close your eyes and it could be Cindy Crawford!!

during the bus strike i walked home from pitsmoor to walkley, along route (somewhere at the bottom of the ski slope area) and was propositioned by a man for sex. i was wearing trousers a top and cardigan, the only places visable really were my hands, neck and face. i don't really wear make-up, i could not have appeared further from your stereo typical prostitute!

he was quite persistant so i ended up turning on my heel and headed towards town hastily...

after deciding to taxi it from then on, mercury left me stranded in pitsmoor the following day leaving me standing on a street corner for over an hour!

seriously though, i think that there should be proper regulation of prostitution. legalising brothels would be a start or providing official red light districts that are supervised and regulated (such as the pilot scheme in glasgow).

i don't believe there is anything wrong with accepting money or paying for sex, each to their own. prostitution is only a problem because it is illegal, it is clear that this preventative measure does not work. the people concerned will be much safer if it was bought out of the black market and regulated poperly as would the rest of society.


anyhow enough said...

I agree with onedizzybird, i dont mind as long as they better themselves. You see some of the prostitutes and they probably earn well, but they dont seem to improve their quality of life

Originally posted by coopster1974
Yes - it was noted that she had track marks all over and a nice gash on her leg with a scabby bandage on it but........ close your eyes and it could be Cindy Crawford!!

:mad: or... you could close your eyes and try to pretend you are a decent human being with just an ounce of respect for fellow human life. but i guess not, i mean you wouldn't want to contradict yourself would you.

Read my original post - twasnt me - dumbo


ps I hope your legs better!!

Originally posted by onedizzybird
during the bus strike i walked home from pitsmoor to walkley, along route (somewhere at the bottom of the ski slope area) and was propositioned by a man for sex. i was wearing trousers a top and cardigan, the only places visable really were my hands, neck and face. i don't really wear make-up, i could not have appeared further from your stereo typical prostitute!

he was quite persistant so i ended up turning on my heel and headed towards town hastily...

after deciding to taxi it from then on, mercury left me stranded in pitsmoor the following day leaving me standing on a street corner for over an hour!

seriously though, i think that there should be proper regulation of prostitution. legalising brothels would be a start or providing official red light districts that are supervised and regulated (such as the pilot scheme in glasgow).

i don't believe there is anything wrong with accepting money or paying for sex, each to their own. prostitution is only a problem because it is illegal, it is clear that this preventative measure does not work. the people concerned will be much safer if it was bought out of the black market and regulated poperly as would the rest of society.
if the governmant can tax it then they will legalise it,perhaps even demand the girls to obtain a trading licence or could they be taxed on having/selling a comodity? its the oldest trade in the world,but it takes two to make a deal, just say no thanks,no ones going to bend your arm into doing buisiness,,there must be a need for it or it would not flourish, a friend of a friend of mine told me that when the hunt for the yorkshire ripper was on ,the police kept surveilance on the red light areas in sheffield,the car registration numbers of people seen using the prostitutes services were all logged, when he had to use the log to update it he was amazed at how many black lines were put through certain names,many of which were prominent citizens of sheffield, if they wanted it cleared up it could be done tomorrow, but some one has a vested interest in letting it carry on

anyhow enough said...

Originally posted by depoix
for some reason my last post has merged with ozzybirds,it is not her comments but mine in the last post after the word society,.apologies if misconstrued as ozzybird had written this

There is never going to be an easy answer to prostitution.

A lot of the girls have a drug habit to feed as well as a pimp to keep, and he is the real villain of the piece.

Let's not get carried away thinking that legalising prostitution is going to stop it, it's not called the worlds oldest profession for nothing. There is too much money being made for it ever to stop.

Originally posted by owdlad
....Let's not get carried away thinking that legalising prostitution is going to stop it, it's not called the worlds oldest profession for nothing. There is too much money being made for it ever to stop.

I don't think anyone's said that, have they? I think people were saying if you legalised it the participants might be better protected. Not that it would bring an end to prostitution.

Well at least you know where to go if you have a spare £10.:hihi:

Originally posted by royjames
.......I have been quoted £5 for a blow job so your mate must have met a right slapper....

Did you ask for the quote, and if so I bet you haggled didn't you?

Call the lass what you like; getting a blow job for 50p says as much about the bloke as it does the woman.

Originally posted by coopster1974
Read my original post - twasnt me - dumbo

yes i fully understood your original post. i was responding to your statement that it could be cindy crawford if you closed your eyes.

i apologise for not using proper English. but i'm from Sheffield and don't use the word 'one', i use 'you' instead and etc.

if you, yes you, prefer...

"or... one could close ones eyes and try to pretend one is a decent human being with just an ounce of respect for fellow human life. but i guess not, i mean one wouldn't want to contradict oneself would one."

I suppose written like this it is more apparent that the original post was meant as a slightly sarcastic jibe at your flippant attitude towards people who take advantage of vulnerable individuals.

My boyfriend lives opposite the Shakespear pub and whenever I have come down for the odd weekend I have heard them scream abuse at their punters when they dont get paid for their services, we even witnessed an 8 months pregnant prossie touting for business which is so sad cos she looked drugged up to the hilt.

The sick thing is is that the prossies tend to take their punters into my boyfriends yard so in the morning it has the odd discarded condom or even worse discarded syringes.

My boyfriend has woken up to find one particular prossie sleeping outside his front window with her pimp and it freaked him out.

Once my boyfriend was just about to drive into his yard when one prostitute got in the front seat and said to him "Ya want business" never the less he told her to politely F**k off.

The guy in the local bab shop said he got a blowjob for a can of coke, he seemed really pleased with himself, it must be the same bus fare prossie that was previously spoken of.

I can understand why my other half wants out of the area, I must say it isnt nice.

Jo

No one forces them to do prostitution fora living its their choice and they make the choices in all this.
They coul'd always try to do a proper job.

For years I have played in lots of rock bands, and all the rehersal rooms are in seedy back street areas of town, where the rent is cheap, and no houses nearby. And there has always been lots and lots of prostitutes nearby. Even going back to 1990 there were just as many around. I really do feel very sorry for them in the winter as they must be frozen.

Originally posted by royjames
No one forces them to do prostitution fora living its their choice and they make the choices in all this.
They coul'd always try to do a proper job.

so true. Money, time, resources and changes in the law should be reserved for people who can't help thier situations.

Originally posted by royjames
No one forces them to do prostitution fora living its their choice and they make the choices in all this.
They coul'd always try to do a proper job.

:loopy:

Yeah you're right... prostitutes, drug addicts, alcoholics, the homeless, along with people living with domestic abuse, depression and the like... don't give them any help, they have chosen this path, it must be what they want out of life. if i got myself in any of these situations i would pull myself together and stop being so lazy. oh and get a job too. so why can't everyone else do the same?

note the sarcastic tone in my voice (just in case you're left wondering).

just a hint for some of you... generally speaking, us humans do prefer a happy and prosperous life but unfortunate circumstances often can and do prevent this. and yes lots of us have had a rough time of it and we still manage to get along quite fine. but newsflash some people have had it harder than you can ever imagine and are left without the choices or the emotional strength that so many of us take for granted. thus they become self-destructive, trapped, are taken advantage of and are ultimately unable to help themselves.

Originally posted by onedizzybird
during the bus strike i walked home from pitsmoor to walkley, along route (somewhere at the bottom of the ski slope area) and was propositioned by a man for sex. i was wearing trousers a top and cardigan, the only places visable really were my hands, neck and face. i don't really wear make-up, i could not have appeared further from your stereo typical prostitute!

he was quite persistant so i ended up turning on my heel and headed towards town hastily...

after deciding to taxi it from then on, mercury left me stranded in pitsmoor the following day leaving me standing on a street corner for over an hour!

seriously though, i think that there should be proper regulation of prostitution. legalising brothels would be a start or providing official red light districts that are supervised and regulated (such as the pilot scheme in glasgow).

i don't believe there is anything wrong with accepting money or paying for sex, each to their own. prostitution is only a problem because it is illegal, it is clear that this preventative measure does not work. the people concerned will be much safer if it was bought out of the black market and regulated poperly as would the rest of society.


anyhow enough said...

You make it sound as if regualting them would magically make it dissapear out of sight.

Make no mistake... 100% of street prostitutes are drug addicts.

Legalised brothels will not remove the basic reason that they are on the streets. Legalised, controlled brothels will not cater for drug addicts, and they will STILL be on the streets because they have no option from their pimps / dealers.

Originally posted by royjames
No one forces them to do prostitution fora living its their choice and they make the choices in all this.
They coul'd always try to do a proper job.

Yes they are forced Roy. My, for a politician you are a bit niave. :shakes:

Originally posted by Tony
Make no mistake... 100% of street prostitutes are drug addicts.
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Close enough!

93 per cent (90/115) of those involved in street sex markets had used an illegal drug in the six months prior to interview
compared to 69 per cent (86/125) of indoor workers.

From recommended reading on the subject:

"Solutions and Strategies: Drug Problems and Street Sex Markets"

at http://www.drugs.gov.uk/ReportsandPublications/Communities/1089989115/COI-SexWorkers.pdf

Oh dear all those guys who got cheap BJs for 50p or cans of coke - might have gotten something else they didnt bargain for in the long-run - ultimately expensive for our health services paid for with our taxes !!!

I wasn't suggesting that it would disappear, just that it might be better for the people involved and for society general. Through legislation to regulate the industry it may be possible to implement conditions such as regular STD checks.

As for drugs, I believe that they should be legalised too, taking it out of the blackmarket would reduce the power of the dealers and will more than likely save lives. http://www.tdpf.org.uk/

Jesus - what is wrong with you people? That was a funny story. Dont analyse it - just ****** laugh - its funny!

And dont forget the only blokes who would turn it down either have small ***** or are gay.

Actually I think quite a lot of people would say no - you don't know where she's been (then again that's equally the case on a Saturday night in the Leadmill lol!) and if she looks like she injects she could have anything - which unless she uses a condom and is careful with her teeth, you don't wanna risk getting HIV or anything like that!! I didn't realise they were so cheap - they'd be better off begging surely!?

Originally posted by babygem
Actually I think quite a lot of people would say no - you don't know where she's been (then again that's equally the case on a Saturday night in the Leadmill lol!) and if she looks like she injects she could have anything - which unless she uses a condom and is careful with her teeth, you don't wanna risk getting HIV or anything like that!! I didn't realise they were so cheap - they'd be better off begging surely!?

She was obviously desperate to get back to her dealer/pimp etc.

From a blokes point of view - a blowjob is a blowjob is a blowjob :thumbsup:

Women see things like this slightly differently - however when a guy has just reached the vinegar strokes all thoughts of right or wrong go out the window!! Am I right guys?

Originally posted by coopster1974
And dont forget the only blokes who would turn it down either have small ***** or are gay.

Half of that is true.

Originally posted by nick2
Half of that is true.

I forgot to mention that this was in front of all the other lads, hence the small **** bit!!

What about the ones with girlfriends who please them more than enough? Or wives? Or even just ones that have enough self respect not to shag some dirty old slag for the price of a Big Mac? How many of you would actually have taken her up on the 50p offer - and how many would have just given her the money to get her to clear off, or send her away?

Originally posted by babygem
What about the ones with girlfriends who please them more than enough? Or wives? Or even just ones that have enough self respect not to shag some dirty old slag for the price of a Big Mac? How many of you would actually have taken her up on the 50p offer - and how many would have just given her the money to get her to clear off, or send her away?

Like I say its a bloke thing!

We aint all drug addicts you know!

I love my job and Im proud of what I do!

I had a "proper" job as a Civil Servant, grade 7 when i left. I have a very nice degree in It Business Coms. One day i may return to the rat race, until then I love the high wage, few hours business I'm in. I do charge a lot more than 50p tho. You get what you pay for.

Ive helped save too many marriages to have any kind of guilt.

If the law was changed tomorrow I would still be classed as a second class citizen, so dont bother, save me paying tax.

Dont group all us girls together. I have never worked the streets and I never would. I sell sex, plain and simple.

I hate to cross threads but on another thread you mention that you're wanting to donate your eggs - wont your profession go against that if you're asked what it is?

And if so would you lie about it?

Yes I would and yes i have. Besides why does my job effect my eggs?

The worse thing about "working" is the amount of lies.

Well said Angeldevine,everybodyeach to there own is say.And i am so chuffed you are not ashamed of your job or what you do.Why should you be, your not hurting anybody,just getting on with your life and earning a living.One of my best friend from school is a working girl, and she is one of the lovliest people i know.We often have a good chat,so i know what you mean when you say you have saved many marriages.Because of my friend i have got quite a bit of insight into the workings of it.And most people dont believe that sex is just a minor part of it.
The girls on the streets are different alltogether.Most of them are desparate young,and yes most of it is drugs.But dint people realise that if they couldnt feed their habit by being on the street they would probably just shoplift,mug or con the money anyway,cause no matter what they will feed that habit.These young people should be pitied and helped not attacked.And just because someone is a prostitue do not mean they are a bad person.

Thankyou.

We all have stereotypes. Yeah people think its just the sex, its far more than that, its quite a responsible job. The only people I have ever hurt were the ones that fell in love with me without me realising, ofcourse I stop seeing them then.

Im a pro and Im proud!

Originally posted by Angeldevine
We aint all drug addicts you know!

I love my job and Im proud of what I do!

I had a "proper" job as a Civil Servant, grade 7 when i left. I have a very nice degree in It Business Coms. One day i may return to the rat race, until then I love the high wage, few hours business I'm in. I do charge a lot more than 50p tho. You get what you pay for.

Ive helped save too many marriages to have any kind of guilt.

If the law was changed tomorrow I would still be classed as a second class citizen, so dont bother, save me paying tax.

Dont group all us girls together. I have never worked the streets and I never would. I sell sex, plain and simple.

You were a grade 7? Why did you choose to leave? Is it because you didn't like that they expect you to do overtime for no extra pay? Though I don't necessarily agree with your career choice now I am in no way condemning of you. I personally wouldn't ever want to employ the services of a prostitute but I can see how some people might. Prostitution, after all, is the oldest profession around!

I do wonder however whether it's quite emotionally damaging do that type of work - not to mention the health implications.

There is of course a world of difference between escorts and street girls.

That is yet another reason why 'legalising' just wouldn't have the magical effect that some people seem to imagine.

Street prostitution isn't about prostitution - it's about drugs and money.

I left because one day I realised that they didnt want me to work to support my life, they wanted my life to be work. Started to forget who I was. Plus i got sick of wasting all that tax payers money.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
I left because one day I realised that they didnt want me to work to support my life, they wanted my life to be work. Started to forget who I was. Plus i got sick of wasting all that tax payers money.

It's quite a drastic career change though isn't it? You just mentioned that as a civil servant you were expected for your "life to be work". Surely in the career change you've since made it's much harder to separate life from work. As a civil servant you leave the office but as a prostitute you come home and feel demeaned, taken advantage of - cheapened? Please don't think I'm being insensitive or critical just curious.

As for the health side, I go to the clinic on a regualar basis. I have to, its part of my job.

The only emotional stuff I have to deal with is not letting all the love I feel go to my head. I know that its not the safest job in the world but I keep my wits about me the best I can and in this day and age even walkin down the street isn't safe.

Its all about respect.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
As for the health side, I go to the clinic on a regualar basis. I have to, its part of my job.

The only emotional stuff I have to deal with is not letting all the love I feel go to my head. I know that its not the safest job in the world but I keep my wits about me the best I can and in this day and age even walkin down the street isn't safe.

Its all about respect.

You mean respect for yourself?

I dont think thats the case with Angeldivine.She chose to do this work,And wasnt forced to go into it out of need or desparation.Shes got her head sorted out,and knows what shes doing by the sound of it .She will have got enough intelligence to keep hre working life and home life complety separate.

When have you ever left the office and just switched off? Even when we used to go on holiday I used to have to check my mail. Sunday evenings were just for preparing for Monday mornings. It was all consuming.

I used to model for an underwear company way back when, when my body was in its prime, and I had many invatations to join this "trade". After years of saying no I realised that perhaps I should give it a go. 3 years ago i tired and and Ive never looked back.

Its a career choice, I wont do it forever, quite fancy studying Law while Ive got the time.

Ask away, it's not very often i get the chance to talk about it.

Originally posted by tattoo
I dont think thats the case with Angeldivine.She chose to do this work,And i wasnt forced to go into out of need or desparation.Shes got her head sorted out,and knows what shes doing by the sound of it .She will have got enough intelligence to keep hre working life and home life complety separate.

If it's not too personal a question to ask Angeldevine - do you have a husband / partner and if so, what do they think of what you do? If you don't do you think its because of what you do? And, if so surely true love, with intimacy, trust and fidelity is much more rewarding and outweighs the freedom you feel in your new career?

Wouldnt ya just love it if I didnt respect myself? Sorry i dont fit in your little box.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Wouldnt ya just love it if I didnt respect myself? Sorry i dont fit in your little box.

This isn't meant to be an attack of your character at all - I just can't understand or see it from your point of view, because I've never been there. It's not about "labels" or "stereotypes" it's just me trying to understand.

No i dont have a boyfriend. I have been married and had several long term relationships.

My job isnt the reason Im single. Im single because I needed to know if I could hack it alone. Next time I fall in love I want it to be because I want to not because I needed to if that makes sense.

Im quite happy living alone, I have 2 wonderful children.

When the right person comes along Ill stop if he dosnt approve. How will I tell him about my past? If he aint the right person then he wont undersatnd.

Its a job. Thats all.

Jon its good that your at least trying to see it form another view.

thankyou.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Jon its good that your at least trying to see it form another view.

thankyou.

The stereotypical view held by a lot of people (me included) is that prostitution is emotionally damaging for the person and it's interesting to hear from those who have first hand experience of it that they don't see it as damaging. Our narrowminded views can often blinker us!

How can it be. I meet a man who may be sad, may be lonely, may be stressed, and when i say goodbye they are smiling and they see their life as a little better, it rubs off. Its like a buzz.

Im paid to listen to men talling me how wonderful I am. Like Ive mentioned before the hardest part is not letting it go to my head.


A great question someone once asked me was: Would i like my daughter to follow my footsteps?

Thats a really tricky one, and one I probably never have an answer for.

hi all,
well just to add to the prozzy thing
I just got back from OZ where i bin livin 4 a year, and brothels r legal, and u will not see prostitutes on the streeets cos of this, even in sydney, a place called Kings cross, they only hang around out side the brotherl, but everywhere else its confined to a buildin, and at the worse, a area.

Heroin needs to be sorted in this area, whilst i was away, a friends old school friend who got pushed down the wrong avenues of life died from takin heroin :(

I cant speak for all the working girls as we are all so very different. I can only voice my opinion.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Its a job. Thats all.

I would have done it for a living (when I was younger) if I thought you only got good-looking clients that you found attractive, it would be like getting paid to have a good time, but the thought of having to have to do stuff with someone I didn't fancy even a bit put me off the idea.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
How can it be. I meet a man who may be sad, may be lonely, may be stressed, and when i say goodbye they are smiling and they see their life as a little better, it rubs off. Its like a buzz.

Im paid to listen to men talling me how wonderful I am. Like Ive mentioned before the hardest part is not letting it go to my head.


A great question someone once asked me was: Would i like my daughter to follow my footsteps?

Thats a really tricky one, and one I probably never have an answer for.

That smile / that "buzz" are probably just endorphines released by the coital process. I don't think it's a lasting happiness.

I can afford to be very choosy. If the chemistry isnt there for me I cant do my job. Whats on the outside dosnt count. Its who the person is that does. Ive been seeing some of my clients now for the last 3 years, we have built up wonderful relationships.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
I can afford to be very choosy. If the chemistry isnt there for me I cant do my job. Whats on the outside dosnt count. Its who the person is that does. Ive been seeing some of my clients now for the last 3 years, we have built up wonderful relationships.

Isn't that then the same as me taking my work home from the office? If so, what's the difference?

jon: Does your job give you lasting happiness?

Its more than chemical reactions. Its the same feeling you get from being around good friends.

One stressed me out, one makes me smile. Thats the difference. One is paper work and one is people.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
jon: Does your job give you lasting happiness?

Its more than chemical reactions. Its the same feeling you get from being around good friends.

It gives me a sense of satisfaction... the money I get is my lasting happiness.

Yep I have a lot of that kind of lasting happiness. I would pay tax if they asked me. I earn enough.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Yep I have a lot of that kind of lasting happiness. I would pay tax if they asked me. I earn enough.

Do you declare your income? If not, IR must assume that you're unemployed and as such you would be entitled to benefits. Do you claim benefit?

Nope i dont. I wouldnt ever. I'll always find a job. My cover is Freelance IT. I do one maybe two pieces a year and the rest is made up. I do pay tax for that but its nothing.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Nope i dont. I wouldnt ever. I'll always find a job. My cover is Freelance IT. I do one maybe two pieces a year and the rest is made up. I do pay tax for that but its nothing.

So why shouldn't you pay the same tax as me? Furthermore, why should I pay for all your clinic visits when I use private health insurance.

What to be named and shamed? No thanks.

A lot of self-employed people don't pay the tax they should, it's one of the perks of being self-employed.

Ps: I go private to.

Angeldevine, although I have no right to comment on your choice of profession by your own admission you don't pay income tax. I take issue with that - it's unfair!

Yep welcome to my world. Im not allowed to mention what I do, i cant talk about it. I have to lie. I have to listen to lots of nasty comments. Dont tell me about fair, people judge me without knowing anything about me.

Ive paid my tax just like you, if i declare my profession i'll get arrested. What should I do about it?

Like i said, if they ask I'll pay.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Yes I would and yes i have. Besides why does my job effect my eggs?

The worse thing about "working" is the amount of lies.

Sorry for replying late (was on my way to work)

If you lie about your job then obviously your not that proud of it.

Bit of a two faced attitude no?

Id love to stand on the roof tops and tell the world what I do. Its a pleasant relief talking about it in here.

Alas legal or not the general attitude to what I do is very bad.

Its not me who has the shame, the shame thats put upon me.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Id love to stand on the roof tops and tell the world what I do. Its a pleasant relief talking about it in here.

Alas legal or not the general attitude to what I do is very bad.

Its not me who has the shame, the shame thats put upon me.

In that case then, why don't you want your daughter to follow in your footsteps? If it's so great, surely you'd want her to?

I can feel the wind from the kick that's coming T020 :D

I must say this particular thread has been a lot more interesting than the one about the best place to buy fresh fish.

I didnt say I wanted my daughter to follow my footsteps, or not to. I said the jury is still out on that one.

I supose it depends on who my daughter grows up to be?

Would I encourage her? No.

I have friends who see what I do and what I earn and some of them want to get involved, and I say the same to them. If they want to do it then they can do it on their own.

Would I disown her? No.

Im proud of her no matter what "job", she chooses.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
I didnt say I wanted my daughter to follow my footsteps, or not to. I said the jury is still out on that one.

I supose it depends on who my daughter grows up to be?

Would I encourage her? No.

I have friends who see what I do and what I earn and some of them want to get involved, and I say the same to them. If they want to do it then they can do it on their own.

Would I disown her? No.

Im proud of her no matter what "job", she chooses.


Yes but if it's so wonderful, which you seem to be trying to convince everyone (including yourself) that it is, why wouldn't you encourage her and why is the "jury still out"? For example, most parents with good jobs that they enjoy (doctors, lawyers, etc) like their children to follow in their footsteps, and often they do.

Also, does your daughter know how you provide for her? If so, what does she think about you doing it?

Like someone has already mentioned, there is a world of difference between angeldevine and other sex workers -obviously you've got it all sorted out, sister, respect =)

If you reckon these women have a choice surely they would CHOOSE to do it the way angeldevine does? Healthy safe and profitable? No-one CHOOSES 50p blow jobs for a living, you know...

I hate it when people laugh at prostitutes. That 50p story made me sick - and hang on, before you start saying this is a male/female thing, I showed my male housemates and they were sickened too. I think its essentially a decency thing - either you respect human life or you don't - I'd love to see you (whoever wrote that drivel) giving blow jobs for 50p to feed your kids, or fund your crack habit, or so your pimp didnt beat you, or simply to pay the rent. I'm not on my high horse, I just think people like you should be shot.

PS he had a 50p blow job in front of his mates?!? Were you there? Did you see him going thru the 'vinegar strokes'? Did it make you hard?

Ofcourse she dosn't. Im not a doctor or a lawyer, thats why.

Im convincing no one, just trying to change some stereotypical views maybe?

I'm guessing you dont agree with what I do for a living? And if that is the case then nothing I say will be good enough.

Do you tell your children about everyone you sleep with?

Respect back at ya.

Just a though Angel, have you had any PMs asking for your phone number? :P

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Ofcourse she dosn't. Im not a doctor or a lawyer, thats why.

Im convincing no one, just trying to change some stereotypical views maybe?

I'm guessing you dont agree with what I do for a living? And if that is the case then nothing I say will be good enough.

Do you tell your children about everyone you sleep with?

So, just to clarify here....

You're proud of what you do, but don't tell anyone because of the legal implications and the moral judgement. "Of course" you don't tell your daughter..... why not? If you're so proud of it, you would do, it's not as though she's going to dash off to the IR about it is it?

You may not be a doctor or lawyer, but my point was that people who like their jobs usually like their children to follow in their footsteps. Why is this not the case with you?

No and I dont do business that way. I have a very nice client base thankyou.

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Hi folks,

This is an emotive subject that has been raised before.

just keep it to issues, no personal slanging matches or slagging off and I won't need to close it down. It's an important and interesting subject, but if it gets out of control I WILL close it.

Joe

Fair enough, I agree.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
No and I dont do business that way. I have a very nice client base thankyou.

I wasn't having a go at you Angel, far from it, I respect your right to work at any job you choose.

What I was wondering is if there are any punters lurking amongst Sheffield forums members. We are nice people too you know, even if we aren't clients. :)

Maybe if the general attitude towards my profession changes, and my daughter grows up to have the same approach to life as me then I would like her to follow my foot steps.

I am proud of my job. Not a lot of people can say that.

And as my job involves having sex with people i ask my original question again.........Do you tell your children who you have sex with?

you better shut it down. im gettin requests now.

Name and shame them Angel....see how brave they are then. :rant:

Its all about discretion.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Maybe if the general attitude towards my profession changes, and my daughter grows up to have the same approach to life as me then I would like her to follow my foot steps.

I am proud of my job. Not a lot of people can say that.

And as my job involves having sex with people i ask my original question again.........Do you tell your children who you have sex with?

If you were truly proud of it, you wouldn't care about what other people thought. By carrying out your job in such a secretive way, you're only reinforcing the stereotype and that's never going to help change the general attitude towards your "profession".

In answer to your question.... no since I'm 23 and don't have any children (though when I do have children, they wouldn't need to ask since I'd only ever have children in a faithful marriage).

Originally posted by kathythebean
Like someone has already mentioned, there is a world of difference between angeldevine and other sex workers -obviously you've got it all sorted out, sister, respect =)

If you reckon these women have a choice surely they would CHOOSE to do it the way angeldevine does? Healthy safe and profitable? No-one CHOOSES 50p blow jobs for a living, you know...

I hate it when people laugh at prostitutes. That 50p story made me sick - and hang on, before you start saying this is a male/female thing, I showed my male housemates and they were sickened too. I think its essentially a decency thing - either you respect human life or you don't - I'd love to see you (whoever wrote that drivel) giving blow jobs for 50p to feed your kids, or fund your crack habit, or so your pimp didnt beat you, or simply to pay the rent. I'm not on my high horse, I just think people like you should be shot.

PS he had a 50p blow job in front of his mates?!? Were you there? Did you see him going thru the 'vinegar strokes'? Did it make you hard?

Please read my post again. It quite clearly spells out I wasnt there duh!!!!!!!


Your housemates - students by any chance?

How can you respect street whores? I respect my Weimeraner more than them. And he rolls in fox poop!!

Go get a life!

Originally posted by owdlad
I wasn't having a go at you Angel, far from it, I respect your right to work at any job you choose.


Well, given the fact that making money in this way is illegal, and income tax evasion is also illegal, I don't think she does have the right to do this job.

Thats nice. Glad you have your life so planned out.

Im an escort. I dont want to battle the world to change their opinions. Thats a battle someone else will have to fight.

I'm happy, its just a shame some people see sex as a sacred thing. To me there isnt much difference between what I do and shaking hands. Its just different body parts involved.

Perhaps if i didnt have kids and my parents didnt live so close Id be braver.

I have to take their feelings over my own. Its called respect.

Its not me who made it illeagal.

Originally posted by Angeldevine
Thats nice. Glad you have your life so planned out.

Im an escort. I dont want to battle the world to change their opinions. Thats a battle someone else will have to fight.

I'm happy, its just a shame some people see sex as a sacred thing. To me there isnt much difference between what I do and shaking hands. Its just different body parts involved.

Perhaps if i didnt have kids and my parents didnt live so close Id be braver.

I have to take their feelings over my own. Its called respect.

Well in that case there's no way attitudes will ever change towards your "profession". How can you expect other people to respect your profession when you clearly don't respect it yourself? Before you say that you do respect it, it's obvious you don't given the fact you act ashamed of it and therefore reinforce the stereotype.

PS. Got to go back to (legal) work now (and help contribute some tax to the government). Will continue this later, if it's not closed by then.

Like i said no matter what I say it will not be good enough. You know what Im saying. Dont twist my words to give yourself a platform.

Dont work too hard.

FYI

Prostitution legal status:

Selling sex is legal over 18, if working indoors, via an agency or in a brothel.

Running an agency, brothel or pimping are all illegal.

Solicting in the street is illegal.

See current Govt consultation about potential law changes:

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/docs3/paying_the_price.html

Sorry for saying I think you should be shot, I dont really think that... this forum is obviously meant for friendly discussion!

I do have respect for street workers. No matter what a woman does she's still a person, someones mum or daughter or sister or whatever. How do you respect your friend but not her?

My housemates are students, well, one of them isnt. Does that matter? Next year we won't be. Still entitled to an opinion? Or perhaps you'd prefer no-one to go to uni, then we could all be on the streets, and there'd be no doctors, nurses, engineers, etc, and the price of blow jobs for your mate would drop lower still...

If there's a market for it, then you can bet there's people willing to provde the service! I don't object to prostitution as a choice of how you earn a living, and Angel as an escort lady probably gets a fair few clients that actually don't just want her for sex?

I think it's sad though when you hear about the 50p blow jobs and people so willing to do anything for their next hit - but how can you control it? Angel's world is miles apart from these girls on the streets, and like someone said earlier on in the post legalising brothels will not end up helping the crack addicts who wouldn't be allowed to work in a legit brothel.

This post was originally started about prostitution and not about anyone on this site, try to remember that! You can't compare Angel's clients with the people that visit prossies on the street - for starters they must pay more for it and also as an escort there seems to be more choice in the matter than with a young girl who has a baby to support or is being forced into it to be able to buy drugs for her and her pimp (sorry to generalise, but there is a big problem with drugs!).

I don't think Angel should be ashamed of herself - what about the millions of women and men that come 11pm drinking up time when they haven't pulled will sleep with anyone for the sake of it??! In our country when the weekend is seen as a chance to get laid by anyone, how can we look down on prostitutes??

On another note, shouldn't you declare what you actualy earn, not just a small percentage of it? I'm sure lots of people out thereavoid paying tax too but it's gonna take a lot of time and money to fix this problem!!

I'm glad that other people reading this thread thought the 'blow job for 50p' story was sickening. I can't quite wrap my head round some guys' attitudes. If a girl paid a bloke 50p for oral sex, they'd still be the one classed as a 'slag', not have their mates thinking they were some great stud. Never mind that the woman in this case was probably completely humiliated infront of a group of men. Nice.

There wouldn't be street prostitution if there weren't men willing to take advantage of vulnerable women.

OK.

Clearly some people couldn't read or understand English.

I said that we'd close the thread if it started getting personal, and that's what we did!

However, after some requests from users who wanted to see the more sensible arguments in the thread, we've pruned out the insults and locked the thread for folks to view.

Joe