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woodmally 24-10-2007, 11:55 I have to mention this but is anyone else fed up with the students asking for money for charities in the town centre.
I have no problem with students
I have no problem with collections for charities in the city centre.
But there are swarms of them. I counted at least 40 betweem McDonalds and Virgin collecting. Do they really need that many in a small space!!!
Coupled with the "end of the world is nigh" brigade and the survey people.
There is more people selling or collecting than actual shoppers.
Whatif wewin 24-10-2007, 11:58 This all adds to the vibrancy of the city centre.
We should be heartened that so many young people are trying to do some good, not moaning about collection boxes, they are not going to attack you or harm you in any way.
AtticusFinch 24-10-2007, 12:10 A few years back I was walking down Fargate and was stopped by a guy collecting for charity. I normally have no problem giving to charity, so I started reaching into my wallet to find a pound coin.
He stopped me and said that he was only allowed to take bank details off people to set up standing orders. I first pointed out that a charity shouldn't be specifying how people should donate money to it, but should be grateful for any money they were given. When he wouldn't budge, I then pointed out the dangers of handing over bank details to complete strangers, adding that it wouldn't be too difficult for someone to make the t-shirt and laminated ID badge that he was wearing.
I went on to say that if he hypothetically wasn't on the level, I'd rather lose just a pound coin to him than thousands of pounds from my bank account. At this point he reluctantly accepted the pound coin, although it left me thinking how bizarre the instructions were that his charity bosses had set him.
beryllium 24-10-2007, 12:11 In town they are annoying enough but when they come round my house with their sales patter and a pile of direct debit forms, that's when I get really fed-up.
BasilRathbon 24-10-2007, 12:20 In town they are annoying enough but when they come round my house with their sales patter and a pile of direct debit forms, that's when I get really fed-up.
Just lock them in your shed for a couple of months and they'll soon stop bothering you.
cgksheff 24-10-2007, 12:22 A few years back I was walking down Fargate and was stopped by a guy collecting for charity. I normally have no problem giving to charity, so I started reaching into my wallet to find a pound coin.
These young people don't volunteer for a "charity".
They work for a company that collects on behalf of many charities. Perfectly legally. They are getting paid .. a low basic plus commission on how many folk they get to sign up.
The company also gets paid on results, by the charity concerned.
They report to work in a morning without knowing which town they are going to and which charity they will be on for the day.
They get a t-shirt or tabard in the minibus en-route.
purdyamos 24-10-2007, 12:27 Edit - Misleading thread title, completely wrong category. Wasn't paying attention...
fabulous_girl 24-10-2007, 12:32 The type with clipboards and direct debit agreements are doing it for employment. But those shaking buckets arent necessarily
Students do it for their uni RAG (Raise and Give) organisations. Its basically a club to join if you cant do sports but want to have massive drinking sessions every week. They dress up silly and go and shake their buckets in town. I think its a good thing, SO many people on here (and off) whine on about how lazy students are but at least they are doing something for charity- even if it is so they can have a massive session at the end of it.
SallyLaLaLa 24-10-2007, 12:46 This all adds to the vibrancy of the city centre.
We should be heartened that so many young people are trying to do some good, not moaning about collection boxes, they are not going to attack you or harm you in any way.
They are not 'doing good' they are being paid to do it, it's not from the goodness of their hearts.
fabulous_girl 24-10-2007, 12:49 They are not being paid to do it though. as I said above. The clipboarders ARE.
Whatif wewin 24-10-2007, 13:07 They are not 'doing good' they are being paid to do it, it's not from the goodness of their hearts.
What are you on :confused: students don't get paid for charity collecting .
purdyamos 24-10-2007, 13:09 They are not 'doing good' they are being paid to do it, it's not from the goodness of their hearts.
The OP has made a mistake. Chuggers is generally the term for the clipboards, but he turned out to be talking about RAG bucket-shakers, a completely different kettle of fish. I got confused, I think several people have.
SallyLaLaLa 11-11-2007, 11:21 The OP has made a mistake. Chuggers is generally the term for the clipboards, but he turned out to be talking about RAG bucket-shakers, a completely different kettle of fish. I got confused, I think several people have.
I think what he said was quite clear. He, like a lot of other people is annoyed by being hassled for his bank details for charity direct debits every day. The people who do this are PAID to do it. They are not volunteers.
A few years back I was walking down Fargate and was stopped by a guy collecting for charity. I normally have no problem giving to charity, so I started reaching into my wallet to find a pound coin.
He stopped me and said that he was only allowed to take bank details off people to set up standing orders. I first pointed out that a charity shouldn't be specifying how people should donate money to it, but should be grateful for any money they were given. When he wouldn't budge, I then pointed out the dangers of handing over bank details to complete strangers, adding that it wouldn't be too difficult for someone to make the t-shirt and laminated ID badge that he was wearing.
I went on to say that if he hypothetically wasn't on the level, I'd rather lose just a pound coin to him than thousands of pounds from my bank account. At this point he reluctantly accepted the pound coin, although it left me thinking how bizarre the instructions were that his charity bosses had set him.
This is quite right I think. As far as I know (I'm usually wrong), it is illegal to solicit cash from passers by on the street - it is legally equivalent to begging (bucket shakers and those with tins are allowed to shake them, but they are not allowed to ask you directly for money.
A loophole in the law means that credit/debit cards and direct debits are not included, so they can get these off you.
And they're a flipping nuisance (and they are paid) - they don't "add to the vibrancy" of the town centre at all, they make it a gauntlet run to get from one end of the moor from the other without being mugged by dozens of 18 year old models in tight t-shirts.
Students or others shaking tins, and big issue sellers, no problem, but these professional fund raisers get on my wick.
pitsmoorlad 11-11-2007, 19:40 Rule 1. Don't make eye contact with anyone who has a clipboard.
Rule 2 If they start talking to you, say "no thanks" and keep walking
Rule 3 If they step in front of you, walk round them, keep walking.
Rule 4 Never forget, they're not doing this for your benefit but for theirs.
Don't be brow beaten, don't be conned, don't be stopped.
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