We're not far from September 11th 2003 - and as the second anniversary of the loss of life in New York, Pittsburg and Washington could this happen again maybe this time in London?

It will happen Jon! and before much longer, it could be anywhere in the U.K.

i think they would have more sense and do it on a day not expected

I doubt Al Queda would try the exact same method again. One of the reasons that they have been so successful is that they seem to think out of the box and come up with different types of attacks. Besides, it is a lot harder to get in the cockpit of a passenger place now.
I dare say they'll be thinking up other things though. If I were a terrorist, I'd go for the communications network. Businesses are becoming more and more reliant on the internet.
edit - mind you, I heard that the terrorists use the internet to communicate too, so I guess it's safe!

They better not do it while im there on thursday! im surprised nothings happened yet in those 2 years. Whats up? Arent we good enough for em? Either we're being very heavily protected against them, theyre too busy hiding to bother, they dont care anymore or we only think theres a thread cos of the media and actually there isnt - OR its such a brilliant plan its taken such a long time to think up and sort out and its going to wipe 10s of THOUSANDS of us out????

I doubt London is likely to get hit, Manchester is a more likely target. Currently London boasts super high security levels, Birmingham is unlikely too, since it has a high muslim population. Sheffield has only one viable target, three guesses where it is (thankfully i dont live up that end).

Likely type of attack would be biological, chemical, although a plane full of fuel would definetly create a rather large crematorium.

Biological is only about 50/50 although elevated casualties would be high due to length of time b4 identification, but chemical is more likely due to availability of resources.

If it ever comes its likely to be elsewhere. Manchester or Liverpool. So dont lose sleep over it.

I do not want to think about it. :(
I'm flying home to the UK soon and I've never been scared of flying before. We've all got to go sometime, but not like that.
Right now I'm actually more scared of chemical weapons. They didn't find any, but they're out there. When the Anthrax virus hit the States I freaked out and upped my medical insurance.

I saw some graffiti on a wall today and it made me think.
It said "Tourism = Terrorism"
That is very sad that we cannot invite holiday makers to our countries anymore for the fear that they may be dong more than just sightseeing. Look at London and other big cities. Are they next? God I hope not. I'm tearing up right now cos this whole mess makes me feel sick. We will never forget September 11th ever :(

Sept 11 will be one of those days we can remember what we were doing.
Like the day JFK was assasinated (Older Generation) and Dianas death.
I was riding my bike at the time on a pleasantly warm day.

Personally I don't think Al Queda are as organised as the US/UK government and media portray. It's much easier to justify wars and security/privacy laws when you create a sense of fear.

It's interesting that when we (the west) are targeted, it's labeled "terrorism", but when we target a foreign population, it's "liberation".

Originally posted by geoff
Personally I don't think Al Queda are as organised as the US/UK government and media portray. It's much easier to justify wars and security/privacy laws when you create a sense of fear.

In fact our whole capitalist system relies on creating fear, uncertainty and doubt in order to shift more units of useless products.

We could go a long way to reduce the risks by actually addressing the really shocking iniquities between the rich and the poor nations of the world, instead of sending military expeditions halfway around the world 'in defence of the realm'.

As for another Al Quaeda attack. Yes, it's possible, but I shan't worry about it, since I have more interesting things to do.

I don't think they will try the same stunt on the UK nor do I think they could manage it.

I still wonder how they managed to loose the planes in the first place.

If Uni students can pick up a stealth bomber on their uni project radio then I am sure we could manage to keep track of a few passenger aircraft.

September 11th phases me simply for the scale of the attack. It was like something out of a film and as I stood in argos waiting to collect my order I distinctly remember looking at their TV displays thinking that was an excellent film choice to display the screen dynamics!!

Took us another 8 hours before we actually picked up on the news.

Moon

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
We could go a long way to reduce the risks by actually addressing the really shocking iniquities between the rich and the poor nations of the world, instead of sending military expeditions halfway around the world 'in defence of the realm'.



It seems to me that the "really shocking iniquities" are between the rich and poor people IN the poor nations of the world. Most of the poor countries seem to be governed by those who have everything, and little of any financial aid gets past them to those who need the help. Comments?:cry:

Originally posted by BigD
It seems to me that the "really shocking iniquities" are between the rich and poor people IN the poor nations of the world. Most of the poor countries seem to be governed by those who have everything, and little of any financial aid gets past them to those who need the help. Comments?:cry:

Yeah Britain Sucks a biggie

Moon :D

Originally posted by Hodge
It's interesting that when we (the west) are targeted, it's labeled "terrorism", but when we target a foreign population, it's "liberation".


your damn straight! it's an awful pity that September 11th happened, but come on! thousands upon thousands of people are murdered and killed in other countries every year. I hate George Bush

VOODOO Said: Sheffield has only one viable target, three guesses where it is (thankfully i dont live up that end).

Where's that then ? Don't get where you mean ?

Originally posted by BigD
It seems to me that the "really shocking iniquities" are between the rich and poor people IN the poor nations of the world. Most of the poor countries seem to be governed by those who have everything, and little of any financial aid gets past them to those who need the help. Comments?:cry:
It's no surprise that leaders of poor countries are able to feather their nests in diamonds and gold, but that does not detract from the global iniquities that exist.

Certainly corruption in poor and rich countries is rife; but the policy of arriving in a poor country and effectively taking all their resources by simply paying fat backhanders to the powers that be, is extremely damaging.

Many of the worlds poorest countries have huge natural wealth that is being exploited by foreign companies to stave off a thrid world debt crisis.

A little more national generosity and a little less commercial privateering would do wonders.

Free Trade, rather than the heavily protectionist markets we have atm would do much to let these countries compete in exports on an equal footing.

Likewise, the cancellation of Third World Debt could lift hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty.

There are no simple answers, but since the wealth of Europe is largely founded in the national riches of other, less technologically advanced nations at the time, it behooves us to pay these countries back for 300 years of 'civilising influence'.

Originally posted by Lindseyw
VOODOO Said: Sheffield has only one viable target, three guesses where it is (thankfully i dont live up that end).

Where's that then ? Don't get where you mean ?
Meadowhall I imagine.

Maybe we could send Al Qaeda an invitation.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Meadowhall I imagine.

Maybe we could send Al Qaeda an invitation.

Do you have their address?

I thought it would be the armoured building in town - the communications block.

Originally posted by v00d00
If it ever comes its likely to be elsewhere. Manchester or Liverpool. So dont lose sleep over it.

People said that about the IRA - they would only attack London. But, they hit Warrington - a small little town famous for very little -and killed a little boy.

I seem to recall that Warrington, or someone from Warrington, did something to offend the IRA which is why it happened.

I remember Sept 11, I was working in an office and everyone stopped work to go onto the internet and follow the happenings.

I think airports are tight now, the CID seem to know the terrorists or wannabe terrorists in the UK (and arrested a few of them). I think that since the attack on New York, countries around the world have tightened up their defence mechanisms and terrorists will struggle to follow paths that have already been explored.

Makes me wonder whether or not the Iraq incident would have happened if Osama and his gang had not attacked the World Trade Centre.

Originally posted by cosywolf
I thought it would be the armoured building in town - the communications block.
Are you talking about the BT tower?! How is a building armoured?

Cheers

Originally posted by Classic Rock
Makes me wonder whether or not the Iraq incident would have happened if Osama and his gang had not attacked the World Trade Centre.

Speaking of which, don't you think that George Bush should finish the jobs he starts? He invades Afghanistan, doesn't find Bin Laden so moves on. Invades Iraq, doesn't find Hussein, so starts looking for somewhere else he can invade. Anywhere except where the real problems are - Israel and Saudi Arabia.

i'd rather meadowhall wasnt targeted thank you very much i live five minutes away from it and i have friends and family who work there

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Meadowhall I imagine.

Maybe we could send Al Qaeda an invitation.

THANKYOU very much! I work there! thanks for saying you want me to be bombed by al-queda.


how awful

if people in manchester think that sheffield is "that small town near huddesfield" i dont think we need to worry about terrorist threat somehow ;)

Originally posted by kittykat
THANKYOU very much! I work there! thanks for saying you want me to be bombed by al-queda.


how awful
apologies.

a slack attempt to make light of the broad dislike of meadowhall (and all large shopping centres) whilst guessing which target in sheffield the poster had in mind.

no personal disrespect inteded.

its ok... so long as you meant when im NOT there which would mean that i never had to work there again.

Well 2years on today and has america got any further in tracking Bin Laden, well in one word NO and I doubt they ever will.

For 1 there is no money to be gained from killing Osama off but if they kill Saddam they would be, due to the oil etc.

Is there any special events planned by the AL Qaeda for today, well yes apparently..but we will just have to wait and see exactly where they will be, if they do anything.

Originally posted by RPG
if people in manchester think that sheffield is "that small town near huddesfield" i dont think we need to worry about terrorist threat somehow ;)

I'm sure I typed that somewhere :D

Ah, Sept 11... today infact.

I have sympathy for those killed in the attacks, as I do for those killed by bombs and bullets from the skies.

Similarly I think there is a link between what happened in NYC and what happens as the result of US Foreign Policy. There has been talk that the US Administration were aware of such attacks being planned - who knows?

Although what happened cannot be condoned by anyone sane, did it warrant the US going in to Afghanistan and bombing it, seeking to destroy Al-Qaeda and "decapitate" it by neutralising OBL and Ayman Al-Zawahiri. Although they appear not to have been caught, or found dead or alive - does it make practical sense for the US to ensure his death, as surely then much of the "war on terrorism" spin somewhat is reduced in impact.
OBL is now a myth, perhaps a legend to some, who escaped the US might sent to get him.

Anyway, about a UK attack - I really do not think it is likely despite what the policiticans may tell us. In my reckoning, the public is lead to beleive there is a higher risk then there actually is (remember the Iraq dossier!) to keep the public in agreement with governement policy on the "war on terror" (ie. UK troops in countries foreign). Back to the point, why do I think we are a lower risk? Well simple - I am one who beleive that London is a hub, essentially a terrorist capital in itself. I know it sounds crazy, but my reckoning is that there are alot of dirty deals being done behind closed doors which are not immediately available to the public for obvious reasons. This could even be the UK Intelligence Agencies (which I would rate as one of the best in the world) even allowing trade-off's. I'm also pretty certain London is a haven for foreign terrorist money, and a convenient meeting point between various internation groups. In this way, the intelligence agencies are aware of who is who and whats what so to speak. As they say, its better to have your friends close, but your enemies closer.

1Man&HisBMW

*yawn*

More children die from starvation in various countries every year than did in that one event!!

The world is a horrible place but America only seems to think bad things only happens to them, get real!!

Al :)

It's about time America was left to stand on their own. I see we have sent in more cannon fodder today, while Bin Laden goes on a televised mountain hike.

Perhaps if the US concentrated on finishing the battles they started, we may not have to clean up their mess. Afghanistan isn't mentioned on the news much these days but there is still activity there and a lot of our troops are still there, as they are in Bosnia.

Have they forgotten Vietnam? That was the last major war they decided to involve themselves in and that didn't turn out too peachy.