NatalieSheff
20-01-2005, 16:54
does anyone know of any butchers (halah) in Barnsley?
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View Full Version : Halal meat butchers - where? NatalieSheff 20-01-2005, 16:54 does anyone know of any butchers (halah) in Barnsley? DaBouncer 20-01-2005, 17:56 You mean Hallal butchers? Don_Kiddick 20-01-2005, 18:08 you wouldn't be being pedantic wouldya DB? ;) :tongue-in-cheek: smilie. halah is the new halall - it's for vegetarians. you chase it for days waving a machette then give up & go buy some chips :thumbsup: foo_fighter 21-01-2005, 08:14 Originally posted by NatalieSheff does anyone know of any butchers (halah) in Barnsley? You do realise how Halal meat is killed don't you ? Fully conscious animals having their throats cut and bleeding to death. It all down to personal choice in the end though... Don_Kiddick 21-01-2005, 10:00 Originally posted by foo_fighter You do realise how Halal meat is killed don't you ? Fully conscious animals having their throats cut and bleeding to death. It all down to personal choice in the end though... Just did a quick googlesearch this an excerpt a government commission is about to conclude that Muslim and Jewish methods of slaughter are inhumane, mainly because ritual slaughter does not include stunning the animal first. "The rendering of unconsciousness [through stunning] is a very immediate thing that happens," says Dr. MacArthur Clark, chairwoman of the Farm Animal Welfare Council, from this www.altmuslim.com/news_comments.php?id=1008_0_26_0_C Hmmm Lestat 21-01-2005, 10:02 Originally posted by foo_fighter You do realise how Halal meat is killed don't you ? Fully conscious animals having their throats cut and bleeding to death. It all down to personal choice in the end though... Almost as barbaric as being squashed into trucks, hardly able to breath - then travel hundreds of miles ( sometimes over water ) . . .hung upside down by steel hooks, conveyored along to a spinning blade and killed.:| NatalieSheff 21-01-2005, 11:32 Originally posted by foo_fighter You do realise how Halal meat is killed don't you ? Fully conscious animals having their throats cut and bleeding to death. It all down to personal choice in the end though... sorry about my bad spelling! no its not for me i dont eat meat or fish yukyuk! its for some one thru work foo_fighter 21-01-2005, 11:50 Originally posted by Lestat Almost as barbaric as being squashed into trucks, hardly able to breath - then travel hundreds of miles ( sometimes over water ) . . .hung upside down by steel hooks, conveyored along to a spinning blade and killed.:| Hey, what you Goths do in your spare time is up to you. NatalieSheff 21-01-2005, 14:38 im taking it as a no then?! Don_Kiddick 21-01-2005, 14:46 Have a peer through this lot Natts - there may be something http://www.touchsheffield.com/business/search/typeId/259/type/Butchers/loc/Barnsley/postcode/S70/page/1 NatalieSheff 21-01-2005, 15:02 Originally posted by Don_Kiddick Have a peer through this lot Natts - there may be something http://www.touchsheffield.com/business/search/typeId/259/type/Butchers/loc/Barnsley/postcode/S70/page/1 thanks !xx foo_fighter 21-01-2005, 15:09 Originally posted by NatalieSheff does anyone know of any butchers (halah) in Barnsley? Erm, where's Barnsley ? :hihi: sanman 21-01-2005, 15:13 I know one of the Grocers near the Northern General sells halal meat. NatalieSheff 21-01-2005, 15:14 Originally posted by sanman I know one of the Grocers near the Northern General sells halal meat. yeah ive told her about them, but shes a barnsley girl, off sick cant travel far etcetc. but thanks anyway xx Lestat 21-01-2005, 15:49 You know alot of Halal butchers do deliveries now. Maybe try asking at some of the butchers near you and see if they can deliver or if they might know of other butchers nearer to you.:thumbsup: Alot of the shop owners tend to know of others in different areas and might be able to point you in the right direction. Baz1 08-02-2007, 12:10 You do realise how Halal meat is killed don't you ? Fully conscious animals having their throats cut and bleeding to death. It all down to personal choice in the end though... This is actually the least painful- both Jews and Muslims use the method as prescribed in the scriptures- a sharp knife to the jugular. With conventional methods they are beaten, electrocuted etc.. inflicting more pain to the animals- muslims are asked to eat non stunned meat. Rich 08-02-2007, 12:39 Um, why is this in computer and tech chat? Or am I missing something here? :confused: Ghozer 08-02-2007, 13:08 Hey, what you Goths do in your spare time is up to you. I take offence to that statement lovefood 08-02-2007, 15:55 can i ask why you need to know? marmite 08-02-2007, 17:16 Abbeydale road, sheffield. i think theres on down from Oddbins. Dont no barnsley diggory comp 08-02-2007, 18:28 i don't agree with the methods of executing animals halal style. i have eaten halal meat and in my opinion it didn't taste as nice as humainly killed meat. can anyone shed light on why muslims don't eat pigs?. they don't realise what they are missing out on such as roast pork sarnies, bacon butties, roast pork with apple sauce, belly pork, gammon and so on. lovefood 13-02-2007, 09:15 i don't agree with the methods of executing animals halal style. i have eaten halal meat and in my opinion it didn't taste as nice as humainly killed meat. can anyone shed light on why muslims don't eat pigs?. they don't realise what they are missing out on such as roast pork sarnies, bacon butties, roast pork with apple sauce, belly pork, gammon and so on. cos its a dirty animal upinwath 13-02-2007, 09:35 i don't agree with the methods of executing animals halal style. i have eaten halal meat and in my opinion it didn't taste as nice as humainly killed meat. can anyone shed light on why muslims don't eat pigs?. they don't realise what they are missing out on such as roast pork sarnies, bacon butties, roast pork with apple sauce, belly pork, gammon and so on. What is humane about killing anything ? If you don't like it don't eat it. Go veggie. tab1 13-02-2007, 10:57 i don't agree with the methods of executing animals halal style. i have eaten halal meat and in my opinion it didn't taste as nice as humainly killed meat. can anyone shed light on why muslims don't eat pigs?. they don't realise what they are missing out on such as roast pork sarnies, bacon butties, roast pork with apple sauce, belly pork, gammon and so on.Executing? Nice :) is it because it's a muslim question? Very likely the same reason the Jews don't eat pork, but don't see many asking them the same question, and the killing method is exactly the same too although a different name from a different language given to it (kosher). As for the taste side of it the curry houses of Sheffield seem to be doing alright selling hallal meat curries. If you look at the variety of foods available to different people from around the world. I don't think any of them would feel they are "missing out" on anything. Given the choice between bland English food and colourful Italian or spicy Indian food then leaves your hmble pig very little to offer in the taste league. LibertyBell 13-02-2007, 12:48 Timeslip alert -this question was asked 2 years ago. gnomi 13-02-2007, 14:25 Yes,but was it answered? :suspect: crookesey 13-02-2007, 14:27 Timeslip alert -this question was asked 2 years ago. As George Best once said "I can't remember what happened yesterday". :hihi: Gemini2 13-02-2007, 16:37 does anyone know of any butchers (halah) in Barnsley? The Asda I work in sells it, (down south) so I assume the local Asda will sell it. Baz1 14-02-2007, 08:59 i don't agree with the methods of executing animals halal style. i have eaten halal meat and in my opinion it didn't taste as nice as humainly killed meat. can anyone shed light on why muslims don't eat pigs?. they don't realise what they are missing out on such as roast pork sarnies, bacon butties, roast pork with apple sauce, belly pork, gammon and so on. The pig is considered as filth (any animal that eats and lives in its own **** must be)- it was forbidden by jesus and is mentioend in the Bible that the swine is forbidden as it is in Muslim and Jewish faiths- yet its clear that majority of christians eat the pork, regardless. It is disgusting and if you ever watched an episode of ' you are what you eat' i think you will be put off!! Example, the hot dog is made part of the pig fat and its nose. CockneyMafia 14-02-2007, 09:05 You can't sodding well move for Halal butchers round our way, which is a bugger if you happen to be a fan of sausage and bacon sarnies. md25 14-02-2007, 09:17 There are some Halal takeaways that don't say so in English about too - Oasis Pizza in Broomhill has "Halal" in Arabic only on its sign, and I had a flyer for "Pizza di Mama" that was also Arabic-only-Halal. That place in West Street has "HALAL" in big letters on its sign and seems to be doing well, so I don't know why other places are hiding it from non-Arabic speakers! Baz1 14-02-2007, 10:12 "You are what you eat" - Native American proverb In folklore terms, eating the meat of the pig is said to contribute to lack of morality and shame, plus greed for wealth, laziness, indulgence, dirtiness and gluttony. We insult a person by calling him or her a "Pig" when they demonstrate these characteristics. Muslims are forbidden by God to eat the meat of the pig (pork). This is detailed in verses 2:173, 5:3, 6:145, and 16:115 of the Qur'an. An exemplary verse is quoted here: "He has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and any (food) over which the name of other than Allah has been invoked. But if one is forced by necessity, without willful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Is Pork Forbidden to Muslims Only? The Jews and Christians are also forbidden from eating pork. Here is a quote from the Old Testament to that effect: "And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase." Deuteronomy 14:8 Many Christians believe that this verse was directed only at the Jews. But Jesus himself says during the Sermon on the Mount; "Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Some Christians say that, after a vision by St. Peter, God cleansed all animals and made them fit and lawful for human consumption. If ALL animals are cleansed by Peter's vision, this includes dogs, cats, vultures, and rats: but you just don't see people getting excited about a cat-meat sandwich like they do over barbecued pork or bacon. Others say that it was Paul who rescinded the law forbidding pork to humans, in order to appease the Romans, who enjoyed the taste of pig-meat. Many excuses have been given, but none are very sound. Many Far Eastern traditions also discourage the eating of pork. The 3,000 year old Confucian Book of Rites says, "Agentleman does not eat the flesh of pigs and dogs." Although many Chinese are avid eaters of pork today, physicians of ancient China recognized pork-eating as the root of many human ailments. Buddhists, Jains and Hindus usually avoid eating any kind of meat. upinwath 14-02-2007, 10:44 Is Pork Forbidden to Muslims Only? The Jews and Christians are also forbidden from eating pork. Here is a quote from the Old Testament to that effect: "And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase." Deuteronomy 14:8 Buddhists, Jains and Hindus usually avoid eating any kind of meat. Careful mate we need more islamaphobia round here and finding out that the bible and koran agree is no way to do that. All this going round finding out that christians have rule about what they eat is no way to keep the daily mail in business. Nice post:thumbsup: I know many buddhists and it's very common for them to avoid beef but most tend to eat other meats including pork. The monks and one nun that I know are all veggies. I only know one indian bloke who half follows hindu religions, he's a vegan and won't even touch an egg. Nice bloke, nuts but OK. Baz1 14-02-2007, 11:28 Careful mate we need more islamaphobia round here and finding out that the bible and koran agree is no way to do that. All this going round finding out that christians have rule about what they eat is no way to keep the daily mail in business. Nice post:thumbsup: I know many buddhists and it's very common for them to avoid beef but most tend to eat other meats including pork. The monks and one nun that I know are all veggies. I only know one indian bloke who half follows hindu religions, he's a vegan and won't even touch an egg. Nice bloke, nuts but OK. Thats the sad state we're in- clearly newspapers like DM are always targetting Muslims- yet it surprises ALL to learn that even things like the food we eat was and is the same as that which was allowed to the 'people of the Book' refered to in the Koran as Jews and Christians. upinwath 14-02-2007, 11:35 Thats the sad state we're in- clearly newspapers like DM are always targetting Muslims- yet it surprises ALL to learn that even things like the food we eat was and is the same as that which was allowed to the 'people of the Book' refered to in the Koran as Jews and Christians. I was a daily mail reader as I think I have mentioned before but you never quite work out how much crap they write until you see the other side in action. Nothing wrong with Islam or Chritianity. They agree on most things anyway but there is something very wrong with those who pervert them to suit themselves or their own corrupt version. It has been said you are what you eat but we could extend that to say you are also what you read. Baz1 14-02-2007, 12:57 I was a daily mail reader as I think I have mentioned before but you never quite work out how much crap they write until you see the other side in action. Nothing wrong with Islam or Chritianity. They agree on most things anyway but there is something very wrong with those who pervert them to suit themselves or their own corrupt version. It has been said you are what you eat but we could extend that to say you are also what you read. :thumbsup: That's a very sensible quote Upinwath and hats off to you for writing it. pinemarten 14-02-2007, 16:57 I got into correspondence on the net with a muslim guy about halal slaughter. He said that it was less painful than stunning but that that was a side issue as the creater of the universe had said that it should be done that way. This is in a book every word of which is true. Such stupidity is almost tangible. People have a right to believe whatever mumbo jumbo they choose but they have no right to impose suffering on other living things. upinwath 14-02-2007, 17:56 I got into correspondence on the net with a muslim guy about halal slaughter. He said that it was less painful than stunning but that that was a side issue as the creater of the universe had said that it should be done that way. This is in a book every word of which is true. Such stupidity is almost tangible. People have a right to believe whatever mumbo jumbo they choose but they have no right to impose suffering on other living things. You could, just for a change, respect the things others believe. Many muslims may think you are crazy for eating dirty pork. It's a matter of ideas. As for killing animals, it's always cruel but a single cut is quick and I would guess pretty much painless.(ever had a paper cut?-sometimes you don't know until the blood pours out). I wonder if animals let to slaughter in lines get stressed seeing the ones in front get killed. |