Do you think its right that this ****** has been allowed out of prison to go to his dad's funeral? I think that he should have been executed years ago....

he hasnt, i thought he had just been allowed to see where the ashes are scatterd

Originally posted by Tony_BLiar
Do you think its right that this ****** has been allowed out of prison to go to his dad's funeral? I think that he should have been executed years ago....

read this (http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/preface.htm)

ive had a long chats with noel on usenet...hes even managing to convince one of the victims sons that the rREAL rippers still at lage
SW

hes even managing to convince one of the victims sons that the rREAL rippers still at lage

Psychopaths are incredibly manipulative by nature - sends shivers down your spine though that he's managed to convince a victim's son of this

I don't see what difference it makes to anybody. he get escorted out of prison, see's a patch of earth, goes back to permanent inprisonment.
So what?

As horrible as the things he did may be, he is still human and still has the right to mourne the loss of his father like anyone else would.

I don't see what the fuss is about personally - it's not like they just opened the door and said "and be back before supper" is it?!

Originally posted by kilauea
I don't see what difference it makes to anybody. he get escorted out of prison, see's a patch of earth, goes back to permanent inprisonment.
So what?

So he's supposed to be in prison. He's a serial rapist and murderer, why should he be allowed out for a day to visit the place his father's ashes were scattered? He lost that right the moment he killed his first victim. Imagine how the victims families felt about this.

I bet this kicks off the hanging debate again :thumbsup:
It's already alive & well on here
www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&postid=267532#post267532
[Don sits back to watch].

Nope, Suttie is evil personified & should not have been let out to see anything. - even with 1 eye ;)
Human+Escorts does not = Correct. Soz But thats it.



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Originally posted by screamingwitch
read this (http://www.yorkshireripper.co.uk/hyper/preface.htm)

ive had a long chats with noel on usenet...hes even managing to convince one of the victims sons that the rREAL rippers still at lage
SW
Does that mean that Sutcliffe should be released on some sort of technicality?

So he's supposed to be in prison

Not wishing to be pedantic (:P) but he's actually in Broadmoor psychiatric unit - not prison.

Does that mean that Sutcliffe should be released on some sort of technicality?

I heard something on the news about a fear he may be released ( as a result of appeals & being denied basic human rights or something) if the powers that be at Broadmoor fail to address his needs etc etc.

I don't have a problem with him being let out to see where his father was buried/or go to his funeral. He will be under police protection and will probably be handcuffed throughout. Despite the terrible terrible things he did he still has the same rights to mourn as every other human being does.

A spokesperson for the Home Office said that if they had denied his request to visit the spot where his father's ashes were spread then he would have had grounds to sue them for infringement of his human rights. Rights which he has regardless of his crimes. I can see how this must infuriate the victims' families and I feel for them but the Home Office had to allow him to go and I imagine the procedure was secret so as not to cause these families any further torment. Am I right in thinking that the media found out and are trying to whip up a storm about it?

Originally posted by LottieWat
Am I right in thinking that the media found out and are trying to whip up a storm about it?


More than likely LW!


But... (IMO) - LBoogie's gonna wet themselves at this
I'm sure but



If they'd have hanged Suttie from the start............


(Don takes cover) :D:o

boom boom *claps*

Originally posted by LBoogie
I don't have a problem with him being let out to see where his father was buried/or go to his funeral. He will be under police protection and will probably be handcuffed throughout. Despite the terrible terrible things he did he still has the same rights to mourn as every other human being does.

He can mourn from within his prison cell. He does not have the same rights as most other humans (i.e. the right to freedom) - that's the WHOLE POINT of being imprisoned.

I never said he had the right to freedom. He has the right to be escorted out, with guards, in handcuffs, to see his father's grave...

I imagine the procedure was secret so as not to cause these families any further torment.

I think the secrecy had more to do with the security issues that surrounded the whole thing.




in handcuffs, to see his father's grave...

According to the news he was allowed half an hour's "quiet contemplation" alone but with prison officers watching from nearby.

Well, I think that's fine still...

Originally posted by t020
So he's supposed to be in prison. He's a serial rapist and murderer, why should he be allowed out for a day to visit the place his father's ashes were scattered? He lost that right the moment he killed his first victim. Imagine how the victims families felt about this.

I don't give a **** about the victims families, or Sutcliffe. Its all yesterdays news - a bad man did some bad things some years ago and is now locked up.
Why do people jump on these things and pretend they actualy care?

Originally posted by kilauea
I don't give a **** about the victims families, or Sutcliffe. Its all yesterdays news - a bad man did some bad things some years ago and is now locked up.
Why do people jump on these things and pretend they actualy care?

Perhaps they do care, empathetically?

Originally posted by LBoogie
I never said he had the right to freedom. He has the right to be escorted out, with guards, in handcuffs, to see his father's grave...


No he doesn't, or shouldn't have. Someone who has committed the crimes that he has should never see the light of day.