View Full Version : Walkley bus route rant!


jamtart27
12-10-2007, 17:37
another night of waitin in a queue a mile long for the 94/95 on church street.
when are the bus companys gonna learn that this is a major student route and between oct and may it needs more buses.
this stop is particulaly bad as people just head for the front of the queue, where are their manners, do they think we stand half way down church st for the thrill?
sorry for the rant but when its every day it gets to meeeee!

Andy C
12-10-2007, 18:38
And then just to add insult to injury there are all the empty double decker 40/41/42 buses that come past, along with half empty 120s, all going the same way..

Have you tried going on the 31 or 123 instead?

Andy C
12-10-2007, 18:41
Oh and of course all those empty unilink buses running round conveyer belt style carrying just fresh air - what are the point of them? Why not scrap the 80/90/100 and use the resources to run a decent service on the routes people actually use (and pay the proper fare on)

jamtart27
12-10-2007, 18:43
well i' ll get 123 if it comes along will even run down an get 52 but i shouldn't need 2. no good doin 5 quid saver tickets if they can't stump up the bus. don't start me off again lol i'd forgotton about it wi the help of a glass of wine

Plain Talker
12-10-2007, 18:47
Oh and of course all those empty unilink buses running round conveyer belt style carrying just fresh air - what are the point of them? Why not scrap the 80/90/100 and use the resources to run a decent service on the routes people actually use (and pay the proper fare on)

Wouldn't that be too much like "common sense", andy? something certain bus operators in this county are woefully lacking.

The words "booze-up" and "brewery" come very swiftly to mind!

StarSparkle
12-10-2007, 18:51
another night of waitin in a queue a mile long for the 94/95 on church street.
when are the bus companys gonna learn that this is a major student route and between oct and may it needs more buses.
this stop is particulaly bad as people just head for the front of the queue, where are their manners, do they think we stand half way down church st for the thrill?
sorry for the rant but when its every day it gets to meeeee!

Was that around 5:10 or thereabouts?

I made my way to the busstop around then - saw the number of people waiting - so just carried on walking past and went to Boots for a nice browse for 10 minutes. Went back to the busstop - hardly anyone there by then - and a bus arrived almost immediately! One or even two buses must have been running REALLY late

I don't think I've ever seen so many people waiting there though. Glad I didn't join the end of the queue - I'd probably have been hanging half out of the doors as it went up West Street! :)

StarSparkle

jamtart27
12-10-2007, 18:53
yup finished work at 5 walked down we were in same queue lol u dint push in did u lol

StarSparkle
12-10-2007, 19:04
yup finished work at 5 walked down we were in same queue lol u dint push in did u lol

:o As if I would! :o

No, I didn't hang around queuing in the end - I went to Boots instead rather than get stressed in the ridiculously-long queue. I knew the bus would be crammed when it arrived, and I can do without unnecessary stress like that! The bus I did catch was just after 5:30 I think - it was pretty empty!

But you're right - that stop on Church Street is dreadfully-badly designed and is going to cause a bad fight one of these days. No-one seems to know which end of the queue is which, and people do queue-barge with breathless cheek.

If you're listening SYPTE - that bus-stop is totally illogical and really wants altering!

StarSparkle

foxydebs
13-10-2007, 20:42
Oh and of course all those empty unilink buses running round conveyer belt style carrying just fresh air - what are the point of them? Why not scrap the 80/90/100 and use the resources to run a decent service on the routes people actually use (and pay the proper fare on)

Glad its not only me who thinks that when i got off the 48 at the top of flat street the other day on the opposite side of the road there was an 80, 90 and 100 all parked up with all the drivers from them stood chatting, which i dont mind as i know this is a timing point, but each bus only had 2 or 3 passengers on, why not run less buses if they are not getting full. Then the day before that me and my auntie had lunch in tiffany's cafe on castle square and i lost count of the number of unilink buses running round empty or with light loadings. There is all this about carbon footprints, i wonder how big first's is.

chris101
13-10-2007, 21:39
Why do the 94/95 buses have such bad destination sigans the smallest in the world.

jamtart27
13-10-2007, 21:49
Why do the 94/95 buses have such bad destination sigans the smallest in the world.

cos if they were bigger the scrum to get on the bus would start before it reached the stop

coopster1974
14-10-2007, 11:10
Why dont you go to the stop before Church St?

jamtart27
14-10-2007, 11:45
i know i should at least it would cut down on the stress even if its not so near work, and then i could sit smugly on the bus when we got to the church st stop lol

StarSparkle
14-10-2007, 11:50
Why dont you go to the stop before Church St?

I quite often do - but why should I have to? The PTE just needs to think a bit harder about the design of its bus-stops, that's all. That Church Street stop is a mess.

StarSparkle

alternageek
14-10-2007, 15:11
another night of waitin in a queue a mile long for the 94/95 on church street.
when are the bus companys gonna learn that this is a major student route and between oct and may it needs more buses.
this stop is particulaly bad as people just head for the front of the queue, where are their manners, do they think we stand half way down church st for the thrill?
sorry for the rant but when its every day it gets to meeeee!
i think it needs to be all year round, not just for when students are around. i used to live in the area and wasnt a student and it was the worst around 5pmish when everyone got out of work.

okka north
14-10-2007, 19:40
oi be grateful. I get two an hour.

coopster1974
15-10-2007, 12:31
- but why should I have to?
StarSparkle

In order to get a seat, really wasn't that hard to work out was it?

poplover
15-10-2007, 13:02
The problem with the 95 route is it's so un-reliable. This morning a 28 min gap between buses. It doesnt make sense! Yet they run double deckers all day Sunday.......I hate first with a passion......

Carmine
15-10-2007, 13:03
But you're right - that stop on Church Street is dreadfully-badly designed and is going to cause a bad fight one of these days. No-one seems to know which end of the queue is which, and people do queue-barge with breathless cheek.

That stop is a cause of constant amusement for me.

The folks that mill around at the head of the queue as though the concept was alien to them and then try to "filter" into the front.

Then there are the people who seem to think that no one else in the queue wants the same bus as them, so they step out of it and march to the front the second a 94/95 appears...:hihi:

The stops at the Walkley end of the route where I tend to hop on and off are pretty stress-free. But the stop outside Da Vinci's on South Road seems to confuse some people, so here's a quick tip:

When you wander up there on a morning and there's a line of people stretching from the stop and down the street towards the Perfect Pie Cafe, the first person you see in the queue right by the stop is at the FRONT of the queue...not the BACK.

So by standing to their immediate left rather than walking to the other end of the queue, you're p*ssing off everyone else in the queue and making yourself look like an ill-mannered chuff.

Plain Talker
15-10-2007, 13:12
Then there are the people who seem to think that no one else in the queue wants the same bus as them, so they step out of it and march to the front the second a 94/95 appears...:hihi:

When you wander up there on a morning and there's a line of people stretching from the stop and down the street towards the Perfect Pie Cafe, the first person you see in the queue right by the stop is at the FRONT of the queue...not the BACK.

So by standing to their immediate left rather than walking to the other end of the queue, you're p*ssing off everyone else in the queue and making yourself look like an ill-mannered chuff.(snipped)

then there's the wheelchair users, like myself, who fell forced to "stand" at the head of the queue, because, with the best will in the world, there's no way on god's green earth they will have the time to get from the back of the queue to the front with the wheelchair, when the bus pulls in, and fight their way through the throngs of people who don't want this bus. if the bus is only once an hour, (like, say, the number 10, or the number 3 or 4) then it's not acceptable to miss it, is it, and to have to stand another hour for the next one?.

StarSparkle
15-10-2007, 13:17
In order to get a seat, really wasn't that hard to work out was it?

Oh, you're so funny I can't contain myself :rolleyes: :gag:

You're not a bus driver by any chance, are you? :hihi:

StarSparkle

StarSparkle
15-10-2007, 13:21
The problem with the 95 route is it's so un-reliable. This morning a 28 min gap between buses. It doesnt make sense! Yet they run double deckers all day Sunday.......I hate first with a passion......

And then you get 2 or 3 95's, plus a 123, all come along at the same time. I reckon they're too scared to do the route on their own, so do it in convoy! :hihi: That's what it seems like when you've been waiting half an hour and no bus in sight

StarSparkle

Carmine
15-10-2007, 13:21
then there's the wheelchair users, like myself, who fell forced to "stand" at the head of the queue, because, with the best will in the world, there's no way on god's green earth they will have the time to get from the back of the queue to the front with the wheelchair, when the bus pulls in, and fight their way through the throngs of people who don't want this bus. if the bus is only once an hour, (like, say, the number 10, or the number 3 or 4) then it's not acceptable to miss it, is it, and to have to stand another hour for the next one?.

There's no way in the world anyone could object to the scenario you mention, me included.

I'd also agree that parents with bulky pushchairs or frail old folks with their shopping are out of the scope of this one.

Maybe people who arrive at the stop as the bus is pulling up or actually at the kerb are ok as well.

But there are few people from those groups at the stop in question most weekday mornings when I'm there. They seem pretty much like strapping commuters who just can't be ars*d to queue up!;)

Glennis
15-10-2007, 13:22
It seems a lot of people are having similar problems, the 81 bus service is absolutely appalling. Yet they can put on plenty of 80's for the students, at all times of the day.
First need to look after the customer who live in Sheffield 52 weeks of the year, after we pay twice as much than the students.

StarSparkle
15-10-2007, 13:27
That stop is a cause of constant amusement for me.

The folks that mill around at the head of the queue as though the concept was alien to them and then try to "filter" into the front.

Then there are the people who seem to think that no one else in the queue wants the same bus as them, so they step out of it and march to the front the second a 94/95 appears...:hihi:

The stops at the Walkley end of the route where I tend to hop on and off are pretty stress-free. But the stop outside Da Vinci's on South Road seems to confuse some people, so here's a quick tip:

When you wander up there on a morning and there's a line of people stretching from the stop and down the street towards the Perfect Pie Cafe, the first person you see in the queue right by the stop is at the FRONT of the queue...not the BACK.

So by standing to their immediate left rather than walking to the other end of the queue, you're p*ssing off everyone else in the queue and making yourself look like an ill-mannered chuff.

Hear, hear! Well said :thumbsup:

StarSparkle :)

Carmine
15-10-2007, 13:40
Hear, hear! Well said :thumbsup:

StarSparkle :)

Huzzah!

Others are ticked off by the things that irritate me...I am not alone!:D

Plain Talker
15-10-2007, 13:49
There's no way in the world anyone could object to the scenario you mention, me included.

I'd also agree that parents with bulky pushchairs or frail old folks with their shopping are out of the scope of this one.

Maybe people who arrive at the stop as the bus is pulling up or actually at the kerb are ok as well.

But there are few people from those groups at the stop in question most weekday mornings when I'm there. They seem pretty much like strapping commuters who just can't be ars*d to queue up!;)

Oh, trust me, carmine, there are folk who object, very strongly, including certain members on here!
see this post about access to buses for disabled people for evidence:-

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2710873&postcount=39

Carmine
15-10-2007, 13:53
Oh, trust me, carmine, there are folk who object, very strongly, including certain members on here!
see this post about access to buses for disabled people for evidence:-

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2710873&postcount=39

Sweet gods...

I wouldn't have believed that was the kind of attitude that some people take.

It must take a pretty warped perspective to see a disabled person's needs as "selfish" and more of an inconvenience to the able-bodied than the person actually dealing with the disability.

I feel embarassed to have even read that post.:mad:

Plain Talker
15-10-2007, 14:29
Sweet gods...

I wouldn't have believed that was the kind of attitude that some people take.

It must take a pretty warped perspective to see a disabled person's needs as "selfish" and more of an inconvenience to the able-bodied than the person actually dealing with the disability.

I feel embarassed to have even read that post.:mad:

I know, carmine, and *I* was the wheelchair user who was the subject of that rant, in fact!

can you believe the attitude?

thing is, though these are the kinds of attitudes that I, unfortunately encounter a lot!

I was in my wheeelchair in a supermarket not long ago, , and someone fell over me, literally, as they weren't watching where they were walking.

Instead of an "oops, sorry" are you ok?" which any reasonable person would have said, i got a "what the censored do you think you are doing, coming in here with that thing? *censored* wheelchairs shouldn't be allowed in here!"

I was gobsmacked! So, I asked him, precisely how I or any other wheelchair user would manage if their means of mobility (IE a chair) were banned from the store.

Carmine
15-10-2007, 14:58
I know, carmine, and *I* was the wheelchair user who was the subject of that rant, in fact!

can you believe the attitude?

thing is, though these are the kinds of attitudes that I, unfortunately encounter a lot!

I was in my wheeelchair in a supermarket not long ago, , and someone fell over me, literally, as they weren't watching where they were walking.

Instead of an "oops, sorry" are you ok?" which any reasonable person would have said, i got a "what the censored do you think you are doing, coming in here with that thing? *censored* wheelchairs shouldn't be allowed in here!"

I was gobsmacked! So, I asked him, precisely how I or any other wheelchair user would manage if their means of mobility (IE a chair) were banned from the store.

I once heard a story of a wheelchair user who was literally wheeled out of the way by another shopper in a supermarket as though they were an inanimate object.

The tale brought home the reality that some people seem to see the disabled as less than human.

Carmine
16-10-2007, 11:01
Just a note to say thanks to the couple who walked to the front of the queue this morning, past a line of more than a dozen people.

Thanks for showing no regard or respect for the people who'd been queuing before you arrived and then clambering on the 95 before the lot of them.

The manners you pass onto your children will be nonexistant!:roll:

Andy C
16-10-2007, 11:27
(snipped)

then there's the wheelchair users, like myself, who fell forced to "stand" at the head of the queue, because, with the best will in the world, there's no way on god's green earth they will have the time to get from the back of the queue to the front with the wheelchair, when the bus pulls in, and fight their way through the throngs of people who don't want this bus. if the bus is only once an hour, (like, say, the number 10, or the number 3 or 4) then it's not acceptable to miss it, is it, and to have to stand another hour for the next one?.

I wouldn't object to wheelchair users moving to the front as, apart from my respect to people who are confined to a wheelchair and the practicalities involved, thinking selfishly a wheelchair user is not going to take a seat up that would be rightfully mine!

I think where people do start complaining about disabled on public transport etc is when you get someone who has a chip on their shoulder and believes the world owes them one because they are disabled, and likes to loudly remind everyone around them of that fact. That conversation is a whole new can of worms to open though...

Carmine
16-10-2007, 13:06
...when you get someone who has a chip on their shoulder and believes the world owes them one because they are disabled, and likes to loudly remind everyone around them of that fact...

To be fair though, the issue in that case is that the offending person is a tw*t regardless of whether they're disabled or not.

H.P
16-10-2007, 16:46
I have been on two 95's this week that have forgot the route and taken the 52 route up to Broomhill. Not funny when you are in a hurry to get home :rant: