New - Zone Alarm ForceField (beta)
Sandbox, anonymous surfing and more, haven't tried it yet.... totally annoying home page though....

http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/forcefield_x/index.html

Zonealarm... bargepole... wouldn't touch!

From being a big advocate of ZA, I now refuse to go anywhere near anything bearing that name. As I posted in a previous thread, a component of the ZA firewall caused a BSOD whenever I inserted a blank DVD... :loopy:

Others' mileage may vary, of course :roll:

Others' mileage may vary, of course

Indeed.

ZAP is running on two boxes here, with no problems at all (though they're win 98 based boxes).

Does this one still work on windows 98 ?

As I have had to stop using the other zonealarm.

Some people clearly do have problems with it, I don't know why, but it does seem to have the potential to completely balls up a system.

It's worked here, more or less flawlessly & invisibly for at least 3 years if not more. I've stopped recommending it to people though, just in case their box has an 'issue' with it.

Does this one still work on windows 98 ?

As I have had to stop using the other zonealarm.
ForceField is XP only, Vista soon....

I paid for Zone Alarm professional and it was OK but now I use Microsoft's built in Windows Firewall and it is just fine and I never have to think about it. Or am I just lucky? I have AVG and AdWare but when I run them my puter is clean.

New - Zone Alarm ForceField (beta)
Sandbox, anonymous surfing and more, haven't tried it yet.... totally annoying home page though....

http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/forcefield_x/index.html

Don't bother wasting any time with this one!

I installed it and it blocked IE from launching and freezes my Firefox. The 'Private Browser' fails to initiate and constantly pops up a feedback error reporting console so that Zonealarm can gather your data?

Don't bother wasting any time with this one!

I installed it and it blocked IE from launching and freezes my Firefox. The 'Private Browser' fails to initiate and constantly pops up a feedback error reporting console so that Zonealarm can gather your data?
Thanks for the feedback, think I'll hold back from putting it on the website for now.
It's supposed to be 'FireFox friendly' too.

It is Beta I suppose.....

If you want to sandbox your browser why not use the freeware 'Sandboxie' or the MS 'Drop my rights' utility.

This latter one prevented both Sun Java and Firefox installing updates on this PC just recently, - comforting to know it works :)

If you want to sandbox your browser why not use the freeware 'Sandboxie' or the MS 'Drop my rights' utility.

This latter one prevented both Sun Java and Firefox installing updates on this PC just recently, - comforting to know it works :)
Bookmaked :thumbsup:

I paid for Zone Alarm professional and it was OK but now I use Microsoft's built in Windows Firewall and it is just fine and I never have to think about it. Or am I just lucky? I have AVG and AdWare but when I run them my puter is clean.

Often, anything properly designed to bypass windows security and infect Windows machines is capable of bypassing the ****-poor firewall too.

Often, anything properly designed to bypass windows security and infect Windows machines is capable of bypassing the ****-poor firewall too.

I knew someone would say that but twelve months later it hasn't happened and a couple of days ago Windows Defender sprang into life and said I had downloaded something and did I want to delete it. I clicked on yes.

Neither AdWare or AVG had picked up on it and I doubt Zone Alarm would have if I had downloaded it along with something else. :)

I knew someone would say that but twelve months later it hasn't happened and a couple of days ago Windows Defender sprang into life and said I had downloaded something and did I want to delete it. I clicked on yes.

Neither AdWare or AVG had picked up on it and I doubt Zone Alarm would have if I had downloaded it along with something else. :)

Well your confusing several different things here at the very least.

ZA works at an application level, you grant or deny specific applications permission to connect at different levels.
Windows firewall doesn't do this, it blocks specific ports. It will not stop a trojan or spyware phoning home, it will not stop malware infecting your pc if you download it. It may stop network initiated attacks like blaster, but so would ZA.
AVG is anti virus, so if you were warned about about spyware by windows defender then you shouldn't have expected AVG to detect it.
If you have the adWare tsr running then I'm really quite suprised that WD spotted it and adware didn't. If however you didn't and you just run adware when you remember, then that explains it.

So, in conclusion, windows firewall, barely useful, but probably won't do any harm. Windows defender, lousy detection rate, but probably won't do any harm.
ZA more useful than WF, but on some systems does cause issues.
AVG - anti virus, don't expect it to do anti spyware/trojan.
Adware - (Free version) isn't TSR, you have to run it periodically.

If you have the adWare tsr running then I'm really quite suprised that WD spotted it and adware didn't. If however you didn't and you just run adware when you remember, then that explains it.

Windows Defender:hihi: doesn't pick up the alexa toolbar (known spyware).

Spybot does.

I wonder why not (actually, I don't, 'cause I know)... Windows ships with the alexa toolbar installed in IE6 and above..

Windows Defender:hihi: doesn't pick up the alexa toolbar (known spyware).

Spybot does.

I wonder why not (actually, I don't, 'cause I know)... Windows ships with the alexa toolbar installed in IE6 and above..

I ought to download Spybot again, but I didn't bother because it never seemed to pick anything up. :)

I ought to download Spybot again, but I didn't bother because it never seemed to pick anything up. :)

LOL

well if you need something for spybot to pick up i can always email you some crap?

LOL

well if you need something for spybot to pick up i can always email you some crap?

I get enough of that anyway, just by coming on here. :D

have they fixed how they eat all the memory slowly from their vsmon.exe ?