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jonsastar 18-01-2005, 15:58 Just wonderin what space is made out of does any one know as it somthing I thought about for ages but havent read it in any books.
I know the space between the earth and the atmosphere/o zone layer is made up of oxygen and helium and all sorts of other gasses, but what is actual space made up of ?
Nothing. A vacuum. And some "dark matter" that scientists says should exist but haven't found any yet.
DaBouncer 18-01-2005, 16:30 Cols is right - nothing.
No atmosphere of any kind.
Bloomdido 18-01-2005, 16:44 Space is made of liquorice and a sprinkling of space dust.
jonsastar 18-01-2005, 17:12 If its a vacuum why doesnt it suck all the earths atmophere in to it, through the holes in the o zone layer?
And if its liqurice and star sprinkles can I have some please?
cgksheff 18-01-2005, 18:15 Originally posted by jonsastar
If its a vacuum why doesnt it suck all the earths atmophere in to it, through the holes in the o zone layer?
Gravity
Phanerothyme 18-01-2005, 18:45 Originally posted by jonsastar
Just wonderin what space is made out of does any one know as it somthing I thought about for ages but havent read it in any books.
I know the space between the earth and the atmosphere/o zone layer is made up of oxygen and helium and all sorts of other gasses, but what is actual space made up of ?
depends which space. interplanetary space is thick with dust, asteroids, gases and stuff.
Interstellar space is a lot roomier with only a few stray particles.
Of course, according to current astrophysics, most of space is made from "dark matter" - invisible, undetectable and hugely massive and plentiful...
DaBouncer 18-01-2005, 19:04 Originally posted by Phanerothyme
depends which space. interplanetary space is thick with dust, asteroids, gases and stuff.
Interstellar space is a lot roomier with only a few stray particles.
Of course, according to current astrophysics, most of space is made from "dark matter" - invisible, undetectable and hugely massive and plentiful...
I never said I was an astrophysicist or anything - I was nearly there :P
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Interstellar space is a lot roomier with only a few stray particles.
Of course, according to current astrophysics, most of space is made from "dark matter" - invisible, undetectable and hugely massive and plentiful...
Well that about sorts it then, I love being spaced!
Space is dark - it so endless,
When your lost it's so relentless...
Or to quote DNA :
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the drug store, but that's just peanuts to space.
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Nomme
Don_Kiddick 20-01-2005, 16:02 There's been a brilliant programme on one of the cable channels (you know how they get repeated ad nauseam?)
But the thread of that one was about the theory of thousands of parallel universes all around us. In our time but in another dimension.
Those clever maths boffs have worked out there are 11 dimensions & could be more...
=We work in 3 dimensions=
Mind boggling :wow: but could also explain dejavue???
(that was my idea.)
Think about it .. if there's thousands more of you in other parallel universes, with the 'skins' of those universes being in constant contact...
feel sick need beer... got to go :wave: bye!
jonsastar 20-01-2005, 16:10 Don,
If we are in the third dimension is that because we see three dimensionaly.
If we could see four dimensionally would we be in the fourth dimension?
jonsastar 20-01-2005, 16:11 Originally posted by cgksheff
Gravity
Your mad???
me thinkss!!!
Don_Kiddick 20-01-2005, 17:04 Originally posted by jonsastar
Don,
If we are in the third dimension is that because we see three dimensionaly.
If we could see four dimensionally would we be in the fourth dimension?
Mummy, Jons scaring me with them hard questions again...
need bitty :P
lol
dunno mate, sound feezabble :confused:
jonsastar 20-01-2005, 17:08 Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
Mummy, Jons scaring me with them hard questions again...
need bitty :P
lol
dunno mate, sound feezabble :confused:
So does that mean that a four dimensional being could be right next to you but because he is four dimensional and you are three dimensional , niethr would be any wiser.....
interesting.....
what if one had a pair of five dimensional specs.....
Why not try this link, you might find something to answer your question.
It's got more space than Neil Armstrong.
http://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html
Originally posted by jonsastar
Don,
If we are in the third dimension is that because we see three dimensionaly.
If we could see four dimensionally would we be in the fourth dimension?
No! For a start, the 4th dimension is time... dimensions in the sense of "11 other dimensions" just means that there are alternate parrellel realities to this one...
Of course, its all speculation until someone makes a machine that can cross into these other dimensions...
Maybe in another dimension I'm sexier and have lots of sexy girls... damn... I wanna swap with that other dimension person! lol
and btw technically we do make use of the fourth dimension... what you see is 3 dimensions, height, width depth... but we are aware of the 4th dimension time... else you wouldn't be able to comprehend things like "see you in 30 minutes mate!"
Of course, the 4th dimension is more than that, cus if you had total control over understanding and using it you could move forwards and backwards in time... oh wait... time to watch Back To The Future... OMG its the flux-capacitor!! :D
dimensions are somewhere 'else' where we are different.
We can percieve 4 dimensions, and move through 3, the other 7 are supposed to be something to do with how quantum movements occur. ie electron tunneling and stuff like that.
I'm pretty vague on all this, because our brains have trouble going beyond 3 physical dimensions, but the other 7 are supposed to exist only on an incredibly small scale, and be tightly wrapped up, or something along those lines.
As to what space is, well, the word gives it away, it's a space, and absence of something, not made up of something.
You can't describe the 'space' above the planet as a space made up of gases, it's not a space, it is gas.
And the ozone layer isn't solid (i presume you were making a joke about that).
You ask why the vacuum doesn't 'suck' out the atmosphere. It's actually the other way around, big lumps of matter have sucked in all the matter and keep a tight hold on it. Space is what's left when everything's been hoovered up.
Ravenger 21-01-2005, 10:26 Even a complete vacuum isn't 'empty'. Due to quantum effects particles and their anti-particle equivalents are continuously being spontaneously created then cancelling eachother out and disappearing.
This is called zero-point energy and it's been theorised that if we had some way to tap it we could create virtually unlimitless free energy.
One of the weird effects of black holes is that they can interfere with the process of zero point energy. If a particle and its anti-particle come into being on the edge of a black hole, occasionally one of the particles will be sucked into the black hole, leaving its partner free to escape. This is why black holes themselves actually radiate energy (separate from the the energy radiated from matter as it falls into the hole) , as well as consume it!
The 'bubbling' effect of zero point energy has also been called 'Quantum foam'.
carcrash 21-01-2005, 18:11 The Cern institute think they may have found some dark matter with there partical excelerator.
Anybady brave enough to explain String Theroy to me. Very simple terms as in to a child.
Phanerothyme 22-01-2005, 12:48 sub subatomic particles (the ones that make up quarks, gluons etc) are not particles, they are vibrating strings of energy with different colours at each end.
seems straightforward enough. I had a look with my magnifying glass and a sharp scalpel, turns out it's true.
Good program on Einstein the other night which is repeated tonight (Horizon - BBC2 - Saturday 8pm) for all of you pondering on the make up of space and time.
jonsastar 22-01-2005, 14:31 What is space.
After checking out a few sites I realise that scientists are still theorizing that one, thanks for the help.
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