Can any please tell me how Brian Laws is holding on to his job.8 defeats from 10 games is a disgrace.Paul Sturrock was sacked for far less and so have many other managers.:help:

I think we should stick with him. He's had to sell Bougherra and Brunt and had to get rid of MaClean.

What kind of funding has he been given to secure new players?

What is he expected to do?

Paul Sturrock was sacked for far less and so have many other managers.:help:
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maybe thats the problem we have sacked too many managers too early and we are trying to give a manager time (for a change) to turn things around :|

Aye reuslts havent been good.
Thing stake time to get right though.
A combination of losing players that the club needed to sell financially and ofloading players he didnt want becasue he wants to put his own stamp on the side will affect the balance.
that will always take time to level itself out again.
Hopefully it will.

I dont particulary agree with some of the lads he's let go, but he has to given time to really pout the side together how he wants it.

If Sturrock would have stayed we would have been playing Leeds this season.

Laws came in and did an excellent job narrowly missing out on the play-offs, some big players have left but the money gets swallowed up by the debt so the team doesnt get improved Mclean left on a bosman and will prob be on a bit at Cardiff. Jeffers has coe in and showed his quality with that goal at Hull but a mid table finish will be a success this season i think too many people are judging him on the great finish last season just needs time for new players to settle

If Sturrock would have stayed we would have been playing Leeds this season.

Laws came in and did an excellent job narrowly missing out on the play-offs, some big players have left but the money gets swallowed up by the debt so the team doesnt get improved Mclean left on a bosman and will prob be on a bit at Cardiff. Jeffers has coe in and showed his quality with that goal at Hull but a mid table finish will be a success this season i think too many people are judging him on the great finish last season just needs time for new players to settle

i think sean macauly needs some credit for last season he got the team playing well after sturrock left just b4 laws took the reigns :|

i have credited Macauly in a diff thread saying that Laws came into the club on a high and winning matches not getting stuffed every week if Laws goes Macauly for the job

If Sturrock would have stayed we would have been playing Leeds this season.

Laws came in and did an excellent job narrowly missing out on the play-offs, some big players have left but the money gets swallowed up by the debt so the team doesnt get improved Mclean left on a bosman and will prob be on a bit at Cardiff. Jeffers has coe in and showed his quality with that goal at Hull but a mid table finish will be a success this season i think too many people are judging him on the great finish last season just needs time for new players to settle

Dont be silly lad,he should never have been sacked.He never had a chance to prove himself with a full team that wasn't injured.The top and bottom of it is he wasn't a yes man and Allen couldn't handle that.

Can any please tell me how Brian Laws is holding on to his job.8 defeats from 10 games is a disgrace.Paul Sturrock was sacked for far less and so have many other managers.:help:

It beggers me,he should never have had the job in the first place.He is a second rate manager who has yo yoed between the lower leagues with scunthorpe.He enjoyed a good season last year with someone elses squad and everybody thinks he is the dogs boll***s.It smacks of Chris Turnip,always the cheap option.:rant::rant:

Well, apparently he gave the best interview that Dave Allen has ever seen...........sorry I forgot. That was Chris Turner

Laws was at Scunthorpe a few years and assembled a good team i still think Macauley should have been given a longer chance but we still did well. And Sturrock is also a lower league manager not up to it in Championship imo

Well, apparently he gave the best interview that Dave Allen has ever seen...........sorry I forgot. That was Chris Turner
Look who he had for competition,Mr Robson.Megson would have been a better choice.

Laws was at Scunthorpe a few years and assembled a good team i still think Macauley should have been given a longer chance but we still did well. And Sturrock is also a lower league manager not up to it in Championship imo

Thats why he managed in the prem.

not for long though and that was because of his success with Plymouth in League 1 wasnt it 3 games into new season he got sacked

Well, apparently he gave the best interview that Dave Allen has ever seen...........sorry I forgot. That was Chris Turner

Am i right in thinking Allen led us to believe that the new manager would have premiership experience then up pops Law,the only premiership experience he's had is watching it on a Saturday evening.

not for long though and that was because of his success with Plymouth in League 1 wasnt it 3 games into new season he got sacked

His record at s'hampton was very good.

Its just my opinion that Sturrock is a lower league manager he did have a good record but only managed Southampton for 8 games never got a chance don't know why, I'm not saying he is a bad manager because he made Plymouth Champions, Wednesday up in play-offs and Swindon up last year and maybe more not sure though i just think his niche is League's 1 and 2

"Yes boss, ok boss, whatever you say boss."

Apparently.

Am i right in thinking Allen led us to believe that the new manager would have premiership experience then up pops Law,the only premiership experience he's had is watching it on a Saturday evening.
I do recall Mr Allen saying that.
Either "the Star" misquoted him (but as they weren't threatened with litigation, so I suspect not) or that makes Mr Allen.........?
Unless he meant the Premier of the South Yorkshire Amateur League

Its no good complaining he dosnt have the money, he didnt have it last year, look at the players he has brought in, Clark, johnson, both the keepers, Hinds, he has sold better players and brought crap in...... we are playing very poorly, and we got stuffed at Port Vale, Oldham , Ipswich, Charlton.

We made a massive mistake when we did not sack Wilson after we got beat by Newcastle.

Here we go again !
"Laws is rubbish"
"Laws is great"
"Sturrock was great"
"Sturrock was rubbish"
"Turner was good"
"Turner was poor"
On and on it goes, the inane and predictable rantings of the "supporter"
Alex Ferguson was "rubbish" when he came down from Aberdeen, Brian Clough was "rubbish" at Leeds, Sven was "rubbish" with England.Every manager is rubbish one minute, good the next.(Except maybe Robson who appears to be rubbish all the time.)
I have a view that a manager needs more than a fair share of good luck.
He has to be lucky in the type of Chairman he has, he has to be lucky to have players that listen to him and get on with each other, he has to be lucky to have supporters that give him a fair chance and support the team.
Looks like Laws has'nt got a lot going for him at the moment !!!!!

I'll back him to the hilt. I think I show that with the ridiculous amount of games home and away that we attend.

I do NOT think he is the man for the job, but whilst he is here, I will continue to support him.

Can any please tell me how Brian Laws is holding on to his job.8 defeats from 10 games is a disgrace.Paul Sturrock was sacked for far less and so have many other managers.:help:
cos there is no one better....:rolleyes:
that we can afford anyway...;)
support the man behind the team.

cos there is no one better....:rolleyes:
that we can afford anyway...;)
support the man behind the team.

Trust me i dont want to see him fail,coz if he fails the team i love are on the slide.But lets face facts,for whatever reason he is failing and big time.

Trust me i dont want to see him fail,coz if he fails the team i love are on the slide.But lets face facts,for whatever reason he is failing and big time.

You change the manager and you're just cutting off the head, the whole thing needs to be changed from top to bottom for us to progress.

I think it all stems down to us not having Mars bas at half times at more. They are known to give you the energy to work, rest and play, lets face it they haven't got the energy to play. Last season the club sold Mars bars we played well, this season we take Mars bars off the menu and look what happens. There's something in it I think Mars bars for all at the next home game is my advice.

We made a massive mistake when we did not sack Wilson after we got beat by Newcastle.
or equally importantly .... when he failed to change anything to get back into games when we were 2-0 down in home games to the likes of Everton etc..

What concerns me about Laws, he seemed incapable of changing anything when we were 2-0 down against Burnley and Leicester.

All he did after Saturday was complain, about his "game plan going out of the window" - when Leicester took the lead after six minutes.

Well; if your game plan goes out of the window you switch to plan B , or plan C!!! But there was no sign of such, in these two games.

The only time Laws switches from his 4-4-2 system; is when we play 4-4-1 after having a player sent off.

We should have played football to feet from the start on SAturday, and left an extra striker on to support Jeffers when the change came..

I've always felt managers must be given a fair chance, but my patience is running out.

Sturrock may have been too negative towards the end, whcih cost him his job; but he had far more idea of how to turn things around.

The only time Laws switches from his 4-4-2 system; is when we play 4-4-1 after having a player sent off

but sturrock played 4-4-1 all the time well thats what Dave A****
said :D just after he sacked him

but sturrock played 4-4-1 all the time well thats what Dave A****
said :D just after he sacked him

Carefull now,you know what happens when you speak out about Dave Allen.:suspect:

but sturrock played 4-4-1 all the time well thats what Dave A****
said :D just after he sacked him

Turner was one of the few men capable of playing 4-4-1 with eleven players on the pitch; when he signed that Dane named Olsen (and I don't mean Jesper).

Carefull now,you know what happens when you speak out about Dave Allen.:suspect:

not bothred mate cant sue me for owt i aint got owt ;) but that is what he said at a press conference but then again he has said a few daft thing at press conferences hes better than colin for making me laff :roll:

You change the manager and you're just cutting off the head, the whole thing needs to be changed from top to bottom for us to progress.

I wish we could all have such a jovial view of decapitation.

Word on the street is Laws has the Stoke game to save his job,9 defeats out of 11 games and its goodbye Brian.

Well niether will last long at this rate, how can they.

Well niether will last long at this rate, how can they.

Indeed mate.

Its just my opinion that Sturrock is a lower league manager he did have a good record but only managed Southampton for 8 games never got a chance don't know why, I'm not saying he is a bad manager because he made Plymouth Champions, Wednesday up in play-offs and Swindon up last year and maybe more not sure though i just think his niche is League's 1 and 2

So Clough should have stayed at Hartlepool, Shankley should have stayed at Grimsby, O'Neil should have stayed at Wycombe, Redknapp should have stayed at Brighton etc.

Not many managers have the luxury of starting their managerial careers at the top, if they don't get the opportunity to better themselves we will never know, will we?

So Clough should have stayed at Hartlepool, Shankley should have stayed at Grimsby, O'Neil should have stayed at Wycombe, Redknapp should have stayed at Brighton etc.

Not many managers have the luxury of starting their managerial careers at the top, if they don't get the opportunity to better themselves we will never know, will we?

Fantastic point,i thought he was a class manager and met every target Dave D***head Allen set him.His record at S'hampton was very good sadly they didn't give him chance.Every where the man has gone the team have had success.

Fantastic point,i thought he was a class manager and met every target Dave D***head Allen set him.His record at S'hampton was very good sadly they didn't give him chance.Every where the man has gone the team have had success.

Depends on your definition of success really.

Dundee Utd no, Saints no, Wednesday maybe. He got them promotion, but I think any normal manager could have (Chris Turner was pathetic) got them promoted. He seemed to be going nowhere with the squad in the league you currently find yourself.

Depends on your definition of success really.

Dundee Utd no, Saints no, Wednesday maybe.

Plymouth Argyle, yes - but big time managers who have started there could be written on the sharp end of a needle.

Depends on your definition of success really.

Dundee Utd no, Saints no, Wednesday maybe. He got them promotion, but I think any normal manager could have (Chris Turner was pathetic) got them promoted. He seemed to be going nowhere with the squad in the league you currently find yourself.

Dundee not sure,Plymouth yes,Saints to a degree,Owls yes and so far so good at Swindon.

Dundee not sure,Plymouth yes,Saints to a degree,Owls yes and so far so good at Swindon.

Saints to a degree? Don't talk silly.

Owls, as I have pointed out, a blind man could have taken em from League One. Sturrock was out of his depth in championship though

Saints to a degree? Don't talk silly.

Owls, as I have pointed out, a blind man could have taken em from League One. Sturrock was out of his depth in championship though

You really do talk a load of old bow-lacks Lovin 'boys'.... So you think a blind man could have taken them up from league one ( strokes beard ).. I think you'll find alot of Wednesdayites will disagree with you on that one because we were languishing pretty badly until Sturrock brought in a host of good signings with pretty much nothing and got the team playing for each other - passing football!

Sturrock wasn't given enough time or money in the Championship, I think he would have done very well had the board had some heart and backed him instead of using him as a scapegoat for their lack of ambition.

Saying that, I believe Laws will do a good job this season if he keeps us up. After that we'll have to see what happens.

Sturrock wasn't given enough time or money in the Championship, I think he would have done very well had the board had some heart and backed him instead of using him as a scapegoat for their lack of ambition.

Thats because theres none to give Lessy lad, your club is up to its eyeballs in debt.
Probably so much so that of the 3 proposed takeovers,you had a grand total of no bids for the club...Its a sad state of affairs in S6 :o

What needs to happens is an ALLEN OUT petition with more than a hundred fans showing up :help: Or better yet, nobody goes to the next home match.

Thats because theres none to give Lessy lad, your club is up to its eyeballs in debt.
Probably so much so that of the 3 proposed takeovers,you had a grand total of no bids for the club...Its a sad state of affairs in S6 :o

What needs to happens is an ALLEN OUT petition with more than a hundred fans showing up :help: Or better yet, nobody goes to the next home match.

dont think i can post what A**** really needs :mad:
but A**** out petition would be a start and a bloody mass demo after the next home game lose or draw ;)

dont think i can post what A**** really needs :mad:
but A**** out petition would be a start and a bloody mass demo after the next home game lose or draw ;)

Think we all feel like that mate.

You really do talk a load of old bow-lacks Lovin 'boys'.... So you think a blind man could have taken them up from league one ( strokes beard ).. I think you'll find alot of Wednesdayites will disagree with you on that one because we were languishing pretty badly until Sturrock brought in a host of good signings with pretty much nothing and got the team playing for each other - passing football!

Anyone who believes you played "passing" football under Sturrock, shows how much you have watched your own beloved owls.

Anyone who believes you played "passing" football under Sturrock, shows how much you have watched your own beloved owls.

Obviously not as much as you watch the Owls... and you're a 'supposed' blade?:huh: Why are you always posting about the Owls?.. I suppose when you're crap team are going nowhere fast, it makes sense to talk about the better half of the city.

Wednesday DID play fluent passing football under King Sturrock. The push for promotion at the end of the season and the play off final proved what we can do when the inspiration is there.

You stick to your inspirational tactician Mr Robson and concentrate on your halfwit under-achievers... :|

Well if he can carry on like today hel be fine.Has for big spending robson and blades.:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Saints to a degree? Don't talk silly.

Owls, as I have pointed out, a blind man could have taken em from League One. Sturrock was out of his depth in championship thoughBit like Bryan Robson then Robbie.:hihi::hihi::hihi:

I agree with Brooksy Robson is out of his depth and Robbie_Lovin a blind man could probably get the current United team promotion

Robson would be out of his depth in a goldfish bowl.

Robson would be out of his depth in a goldfish bowl.

Maybe in a goldfish bowl but not in the punch bowl,i've heard he loves a drink.:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Maybe in a goldfish bowl but not in the punch bowl,i've heard he loves a drink.:hihi::hihi::hihi:
The talk on the radio did hint that Robson is spending quite a lot of time in certain watering holes.;);)

The talk on the radio did hint that Robson is spending quite a lot of time in certain watering holes.;);)

Hint,he's a renowned ale cart :roll::roll:

Bit like Bryan Robson then Robbie.:hihi::hihi::hihi:

Can't disagree. But I'll leave that to another thread.

I agree with Brooksy Robson is out of his depth and Robbie_Lovin a blind man could probably get the current United team promotion

As above.

Obviously not as much as you watch the Owls... and you're a 'supposed' blade?:huh: Why are you always posting about the Owls?

A backlog of messages are around to see that I don't "always" post about the owls. It is a common interest. It's a shame you can't have a civilised conversation about football to be honest.

Wednesday DID play fluent passing football under King Sturrock.
You really are clueless Lestat seriously, if you honestly believe that you know NOTHING about football. Long ball is not "fluent passing football"

The push for promotion at the end of the season and the play off final proved what we can do when the inspiration is there.

The play off final you was lucky in, you were the better team that day, but when you was losing you looked unable to get back in the game, thankfully for you owls hartlepool did you a massive favour and changed the game in making silly mistakes.

The play off final you was lucky in, you were the better team that day, but when you was losing you looked unable to get back in the game, thankfully for you owls hartlepool did you a massive favour and changed the game in making silly mistakes.

And you say I'm clueless..... You are beginning to sound like Brian Robson. Get a grip, stop trying to make everything we've ever done sound like a failure - watching that huge pile of steaming pig sh 1t playing at Bumhole Lane every week really is affecting your 'Lovin' little brain aint it.

And you say I'm clueless..... .

In 2 words..... YOU ARE

In 2 words..... YOU ARE

OMG how stupid you really ALL are, did warnock do well in his 1st season NO, this is why i dont come on here anymore, cos you all know NOTHING about football

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robbie a wise man once wrote the above post which means we are ALL clueless about football :rolleyes:

robbie a wise man once wrote the above post which means we are ALL clueless about football :rolleyes:

Thank god you point this out, I thought I was going mad :D

Thank god you point this out, I thought I was going mad :D

glad to be of service my friend :lol:

Sturrock got the boot from Southampton when a prospective investor saw him (Sturrock) wearing his slippers in the corridor and with a coffee stain down the front of his Polo shirt, and made comments to the board.

Fortunatly for Forest and Derby Brian Clough was never sacked for offences against fashion.

Sturrock got the boot from Southampton when a prospective investor saw him (Sturrock) wearing his slippers in the corridor and with a coffee stain down the front of his Polo shirt, and made comments to the board.


Rumour was that Sturrock had a bench at southampton training ground in which he used to go to sleep whilst sobering up.

Not sure how true it is.... but said bench was ebayed and bought by user "Robbosufc" ;)

Rumour was that Sturrock had a bench at southampton training ground in which he used to go to sleep whilst sobering up.

Not sure how true it is.... but said bench was ebayed and bought by user "Robbosufc" ;)

are you sure it aint robbomufc thats where his heart is :) and his best drinks cabinet:D

The Rumour Mill also reckons :- Sturrock was also told by "Rupert the Bear"; after having questioned why certain players (whom he did not feel were good enough) were being given contracts; that as the chosen few players were being given contracts; he had to play them!

I believe such a strategy also resulted in "'Arry boy" going back to Portsmouth, not long after he arrived.

I cant understand how we pull a fantastic result of saturday and then flop to Scunthorpe.Is there a change on the way.

an ugly game but you have to say that Scunthorpe came with a plan to expose our defensive frailties and it paid off.

More worrying for us is the injury to Wood. Hope it's not too serious.

Diabolical defending.Inept midfield. No cutting edge
I think we'd have done a lot better with Coughlan and Hills in there.
Coughlan would have rolled his sleeves up and got stuck in.
Wednesday were easily beaten by a team of rugby players.

Why is Spurr being played out of position 6 months on? It should have been a stop-gap solution for a couple of games
Why were players wearing the wrong studs in the first half? (In my opinion based on observation Mr Allen/Walker et al)
A long season, and a fight against relegation is my prediction

Will the board think that using the Bougherra and Brunt money to service the debt was a good idea when the gates drop causing an increase in the debt/fall to a lower division?

I cant understand how we pull a fantastic result of saturday and then flop to Scunthorpe.Is there a change on the way.

Each of the last 3 games has seen us concede 2 goals through appalling defending. When Leicester and Scunthorpe both took the lead at Hillsborough, they shut up shop. And we couldn't get through them. At Stoke, we pulled it back to 2-2, and then Stoke had to chase the game, hence why we managed to force 2 more in.

I thought we had spells where we passed the ball round well last night. But if we continue to let in stupid goals through a poor defense, and if we can't break down mediocre crap like Scunthorpe then we are heading down.

And don't get me started on the poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor, poor quality of our crosses and corners last night.

Do you think that Laws tells them they've got to hit the first defender in the chest for every corner/cross/free kick.

"they've got to hit the first defender in the chest for every corner/cross/free kick."

Oh god. Yes they were shocking.
what worried me, is that i predicted what Scunthorpe would do and how they would try and expose us before the game.

How then, can Wednesdays back room staff (who know Scunthorpe and their team better than me) not realise what was going to happen ?

We are just poor in general and getting poorer,Sack him now and take Allen with him.Im not paying to watch another match of that standard.

dear Mr Sidebottom its because people with your mind set think that Scunthorpe are mediocre and crap that they are winning games for fun, sheffield clubs giving up six points out of six so far. As for you Albert tross you should undoubtably be the next wednesday manager for your abillty to accurately predict that the scunthorpe team would arrive at hillsborough with a cunning plan to expose you, beat you and nip back up the M18 with the points. no wonder your worried!
Jolly good luck for the rest of the season ,up the iron!

clogger.
Apt name for an Iron fan.:)

Clogger..... its nothing to do with Scunthorpe, we have been out played at Port Vale and Oldham, its the way we are playing not only the results.

Mr Clogger
Your team wins cos they are prepared to run thru' a brick wall to keep a lead....some of them are built like a brick wall......some of them fall on people like a brick wall!
Having said that you have to admire their guts,determination and team ethic

dear Mr Sidebottom its because people with your mind set think that Scunthorpe are mediocre and crap that they are winning games for fun, sheffield clubs giving up six points out of six so far. As for you Albert tross you should undoubtably be the next wednesday manager for your abillty to accurately predict that the scunthorpe team would arrive at hillsborough with a cunning plan to expose you, beat you and nip back up the M18 with the points. no wonder your worried!
Jolly good luck for the rest of the season ,up the iron!

I'm sorry Clogead, but I was at last nights game, and you were a poor side.

Granted, you scored more than us, and we were poor at the back, but I've seen enough sides in my time to know a poor one when I see one. You are organised in what you do, but not in any way a good side. A few key injuries will expose you side for what they are, and I predict you'll be back down a league in a season or two.

Apparently Laws is staying (following board meeting last night)

No surprise there.
Afterall. As someone has already said. Who would we get in ?
No one but the insane would touch it.

ah well.
Maybe i'm getting sfot in me old age but, he's only in his second season. May aswell at least give him till the end of it !!

May as well give him 15years. It'll take that long to clear the debt

mr Sidebottom
you are clearly an expert in identifying poor sides. We may or may not turn out to be one, I realise that the iron are completely out of there depth in the championship in terms of finance and size of squad, your prediction for our future may well turn out to be true however in the mean time we appear to be "having a laugh"
jolly good luck to you.

Well fair play to Scunny they did what was needed to get a result.
I think it's easy for us to start thinking about clubs only in terms of Fan base and Stadiums. Wages etc.

But the truth is that it is the team on the pitch at that time that matters.

That is a problem that you lot have had for a while, big club syndrome, or should i say the majority of support and players at hillsbro.
I will however also say that i think that we started the season with a similar mentality but i think we may have learnt our lesson now.

Well it just surprises me still when i hear people say-:

"We should be murdering teams like these"
when in fact the league table suggests the opposite !!

Though i suppose it's easy for people to fall into the trap when they have been brought upo on diet of Criag, Fanthom, Hirst , Waddle Sheridan and they see themselves up against a club that only a few years agio were nearly in the conference.

I went last night and don't have blinkers on, we were awful, Scunny were better in all departments we were second to everything

That maybe the main off the field problem the reality check.
Some wednesday fans still think they are a massive club and we at the start of the season with the squad we had thought it would be relatively easy.

Key observations from last night:

Defensive naievity - how many times in the first half did they cross the ball deep to the far post where they had a giant ready to head the ball back across, and we had 'tidgy' Tudgay to stop him :loopy:

Midfield ineptitude - none of them tall enough to intercept the long balls to our strikers :loopy:

Winger(s) - couldn't beat the first man with a cross, and when they did it went out the other side for a throw in :loopy:

Forward incompetence - heading said long balls to no-one, because "no-one" bothered to anticipate them :loopy:

All in all a total waste of money for no entertainment whatsoever :mad:

Key observations from last night:

All in all a total waste of money for no entertainment whatsoever :mad:

I guss the question is ---Whos to blame when you go from beating Stoke 4-2 away to losing to Scunny at home 3 days later.

I think Flaws is for the chop very shortly on two counts.

1) Vote of confidence from the Board,
2) The fact the only player who would stick up for him in the local meeja was a loanee from Derby.

Not a single full time professional would speak a word in his favour.

That said, in fairness, given the crock of brown stuff who are running Day Before Thursday, Jesus Christ(TM) in charge, with Barabas as Head Coach would have trouble 'coming back' now, even with Daddy's help ..........

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maybe thats the problem we have sacked too many managers too early and we are trying to give a manager time (for a change) to turn things around :|

i stick by the above no whelan no kav and we still win away at plymouth who have not lost at home in previous 12

its about time laws took some praise aswell as abuse

u.t.o

king brains barmy army

have we turned the corner ? who cares

we are wednesday, we are wednesday ,got no money ,we dont care ,on the same points as the piggies ooooops hang on we have west brom next :gag:


keep :D blades nobsor is your saviour:)

king brains barmy army

have we turned the corner ? who cares

we are wednesday, we are wednesday ,got no money ,we dont care ,on the same points as the piggies ooooops hang on we have west brom next :gag:


keep :D blades nobsor is your saviour:)West brom?? its gonna be mission impossible to beat them....

or is it?? keep the faith!!

West brom?? its gonna be mission impossible to beat them....

or is it?? keep the faith!!

Unfortunately with our team you just never know....

Even if we lose the next 2 games, sacking Laws would be a big big mistake!!
We need stability & Laws has proved that he can get good results, it just needs time to get over the knock backs of losing good players due to financial situations.

Keep the faith with Laws & with team spirit & confidence, there's no reason we can't get back the form of last season.
It's a shame that we seem to freeze when playing at home, maybe the expectancy.

West brom?? its gonna be mission impossible to beat them....

or is it?? keep the faith!!

Personally mad un, I think West Brom are very overrated. We've always done ok against them. I know they've won & won well today but i'm not scared of them at all. Think they are bottlers if you get into them - which is exactly what we need to do.

Even if we lose the next 2 games, sacking Laws would be a big big mistake!!
We need stability & Laws has proved that he can get good results, it just needs time to get over the knock backs of losing good players due to financial situations.

Keep the faith with Laws & with team spirit & confidence, there's no reason we can't get back the form of last season.
It's a shame that we seem to freeze when playing at home, maybe the expectancy.

Agree 100% with you Romario. Lets back Laws and give the man a break, he's doing his best for the Owls with little help from....'elsewhere'. Hopefully these two wins will have given the players abit of self confidence too and we can continue with another win ( I know I'm being hopeful with W.Brom next ) but if it happens I can see us surprising a few people and going up the table alot smoother than 'some' teams! :hihi:

Oh the hypocrisy from the blue lot on here.

Starting threads about how is Flaws keeping his job and calling to get KING Sturrock back :o

Then after a couple of wins Flaws is a GOD (TM) :hihi::hihi:

The fickleness is unbelievable :gag:

No, i never wanted Sturrock to go as it's daft getting shut of managers left right & centre, but i remember personaly that his style was defensive & Laws's isn't. He plays it attacking hence the away victories last season!

The fickleness is unbelievable :gag:

Living in Canada I don't suppose you get to hear the weekly moanfest from red half on Praise and Grumble do you?

Oh the hypocrisy from the blue lot on here.

Starting threads about how is Flaws keeping his job and calling to get KING Sturrock back :o

Then after a couple of wins Flaws is a GOD (TM) :hihi::hihi:

The fickleness is unbelievable :gag:

I don't see what's unbelievable about it. Blades fans are exactly the same and have been for decades, that I know of.

I don't see what's unbelievable about it. Blades fans are exactly the same and have been for decades, that I know of.

Well said both fans are the same, you only have to look at the letters page of the green un paper or the phone in on radio sheffield but thats football :hihi:

Oh the hypocrisy from the blue lot on here.

Starting threads about how is Flaws keeping his job and calling to get KING Sturrock back :o

Then after a couple of wins Flaws is a GOD (TM) :hihi::hihi:

The fickleness is unbelievable :gag:

i trust you dont mean me in that statement c/b ???
if you do can you show me my quotes please :D

i think u will find i fetched this thread back to the top i have defended laws and now hopefully can do the job and shut the moaners up

i trust you dont mean me in that statement c/b ???
if you do can you show me my quotes please :D

i think u will find i fetched this thread back to the top i have defended laws and now hopefully can do the job and shut the moaners up
Mack, you're one of a few from both sides that post unbiased sense. :thumbsup:
You better be careful or you'll get banned for not dragging the thread down. :hihi:

Oh the hypocrisy from the blue lot on here.

Starting threads about how is Flaws keeping his job and calling to get KING Sturrock back :o

Then after a couple of wins Flaws is a GOD (TM) :hihi::hihi:

The fickleness is unbelievable :gag:

I'd Just like to ask the same question as Mac has above please CB...... If you can find me saying we didn't want or need Lawsy then please show the statements. I've always backed him too and think he is a good, decent manager unlike the one you've landed.

I'd Just like to ask the same question as Mac has above please CB...... If you can find me saying we didn't want or need Lawsy then please show the statements. I've always backed him too and think he is a good, decent manager unlike the one you've landed.


Don't say that, he'll only quote you and change what you posted.....

Don't say that, he'll only quote you and change what you posted.....

PMSL! :hihi::hihi: Aye...the old quotechanger of Canada!!:hihi:

Don't say that, he'll only quote you and change what you posted.....

Dont you have some studying to do :o

Dont you have some studying to do :o

Indeed I do, what does that have to do with anything?

Indeed I do, what does that have to do with anything?

igm1
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Don't say that, he'll only quote you and change what you posted.....

Lestat has foxydebs to answer for him, he doesn't need you :P

I'd Just like to ask the same question as Mac has above please CB...... If you can find me saying we didn't want or need Lawsy then please show the statements. I've always backed him too and think he is a good, decent manager unlike the one you've landed.

It isn't necessary for him to find a specific single Owls fan who used to believe Laws was a disaster and now believes he's a god. He's talking about the Owls fanship in general. It's actually fairly easy to show that, in a large group of people, their general preferences will be completely illogical.

It happens everywhere, not just in football, and certainly not just at Hillsborough. I've seen Blades managers worshipped one week, spat at the next, and worshipped again the one after. I saw Peter Withe get both treatments within a matter of seconds.

I've seen Blades managers worshipped one week, spat at the next, and worshipped again the one after.

Jimmy Sirrell
ken Furphy
Nigel Spackman
Ian Porterfield

Pretty much you can name any Blades manager apart from John Harris who got that treatment Heyesey

I'd Just like to ask the same question as Mac has above please CB...... If you can find me saying we didn't want or need Lawsy then please show the statements. I've always backed him too and think he is a good, decent manager unlike the one you've landed.

Well I trawled the depths of your posting history and in fairness to you I couldn't find you downing FLAWS.

The only thing I could find was this fence sitting missive:

Saying that, I believe Laws will do a good job this season if he keeps us up. After that we'll have to see what happens.

Hardly rousing support, then again while the OWLS where being torn a new A Hole in the first six games you didn't post anything of note.

However now the OWLS are on the up you can't stop spouting your usual inconsequencial, pre-pubescent drivel. :rolleyes:

Hardly rousing support, then again while the OWLS where being torn a new A Hole in the first six games you didn't post anything of note.

If I was a Blunt I wouldn't keep bringing up that we lost our first six games seeing it's now only goal difference separating the two sides! Hardly reflects well on such a 'fallen giant' as yourselves that we effectively gave your lot a 6 game head start :hihi:

The continuous tit-fot-tat between Utd and Wednesday fans is extremely tedious as it is in the Green Un
Laws shouldn't have been sacked........
Laws is a decent bloke doing a reasonable job BUT he will achieve nothing for the club under the current regime and with this debt hanging over it
7 years on since relegation and there's been no meaningful reduction to the level of debt. Do we have to suffer, at best, another 10 years of mediocrity with gates graduallly dwindling adding to this burden?

Oh the hypocrisy from the blue lot on here.

Starting threads about how is Flaws keeping his job and calling to get KING Sturrock back :o

Then after a couple of wins Flaws is a GOD (TM) :hihi::hihi:

The fickleness is unbelievable :gag:

I'm glad we stuck with Laws. I think he's a very good manager. With some resources, he could do a decent job of getting us in the play-offs.

at same stage last season we had 14 points and were 10 points off the play-off places.
this season we have 15 points and are 7 points off the play-off places.

keep up the good work brian and bryan :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/articles/2007/07/18/sheffield_wednesday_audio_archive_0708.shtml



^^^^^ click link for brian laws interview after saturday for anybody who missed it wait til the end :smile:

If I was a Blunt I wouldn't keep bringing up that we lost our first six games seeing it's now only goal difference separating the two sides! Hardly reflects well on such a 'fallen giant' as yourselves that we effectively gave your lot a 6 game head start :hihi:

Don't tempt fate by saying " If I was a Blunt". You might just end up going to bed one night thinking wonderful Wednesday thoughts and wake up the next morning in a red and white shirt singing the greasy chip butty song.

God it doesn't bare thinking about. :hihi:

igm1
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Don't say that, he'll only quote you and change what you posted.....

Lestat has foxydebs to answer for him, he doesn't need you :P

Oh how original, i dont post for a few days as i have been visiting family and i still get dragged into it.

Oh how original, i dont post for a few days as i have been visiting family and i still get dragged into it.

Happens to me all the time as well...You will get used to it Debs ;)

Considering the owls lack of investment in players i think Laws hasnt done a bad job,not great but ok.On the otherhand our neighbours have spent and at the end of the day not a lot of differance is there in the lg..:roll::roll: