Hi we have been watching the thread regarding the gay scence in sheffield, or the lack of it,

We are a company who manage a few publice houses and clubs in the midlands, we are now posting this to take your comments and suggestions of just what you want obviosly we provide the manpower and money you the customer provide the ideas not just another gay venue that opens its doors and hopes for the best !!

PUSSYCATS - is the venue name we have looked at many venues in sheffield one being the ex Fuel Club on eyre st, information was provided as to the plans for this site, and is being redeveloped to fit into the moor

We are looking at taking over what was Censord Rock, surrey st nr to the train station and bus routes, however if any body knows of any venues that have become vacant and would be a suitable venue then please get in touch.

we belive there are a few places that are gay venues,, F.A.B ,, Xes,, Dempseys.. do they offer what you want? do you feel safe?? and how easy is transport these key things help a club help its clients

once the right venue has been found the initial process will be to ask your veiws on what you the gay community want and to be able to achive this we will ask people with ideas to join us in the development of the venue and share there thoughts and interests.

We look forward to Bringing PussyCats Club to sheffield and hope the sheffield community welcome a club with a difference

I'd like (for a pub) :

1. No mirror balls, pink neon or pictures of Bette Davis
2. No drag "acts"/strippers
3. A pool table
4. Decent beer

I realise I'm in a minority on at least 3 of these points.

I want somewhere that is friendly, accessible and comfortable for all the LBG community of Sheffield. Somewhere that is proud to be called a gay venue, welcomes our non gay friends but won't tolerate any inappropriate behaviour.

Somewhere that has a modern, contemporary feel with comfortable sofas and a decent area to eat food. A venue that has a pool table (even in the nightclub), a good selection of drinks, but not at prices that rip you off. Different DJ's playing a broad spectrum of music, a venue that wants to hold fundraisers for the many good charitys in Sheffield that support LGB people.

I don't want a venue full of 18-24 year olds acting as the latest diva on the block and bitching all over the place. :roll:

/\ What he said /\

No mirror ball?

I can see this is going to turn into another bitch fight.

No mirror ball?

I can see this is going to turn into another bitch fight.

Please, no bitching.

There is the old Niche club which has been up for sale for a while. For any club I think it's important to both provide a good dance area and a chill out area. People like to have an area to relax in (and get to know there new friend :hihi:) between dances.
A club has to be easy to get to from the other bars in the city as such as long as it is on Taxi route that is great.

Good luck..

Steve

I think the main things we could do with are a smallish, trendy and modern style bar, which opens late and which has dancing, but which is predominantly bar and food orientated. The lions lair is a good example only no dancing there. For non gay places, runaway girl is open pub hours, does food, is modern, and has dancing in the night time- something like that would be good.

I'd also recommend any new company trying to open a dialogue with the local council to see which areas are earmarked for demolition, where might bne 'up and coming' places.

The other thing i'd normally say is to be closish to other gay venues. Except that in the next few years, the fuel, dempseys and lions lair buildings are all likely to go as part of Moor Sheffield and New Retail Quarter major developments. And i think atterclifee is OK as a 'detination' club location but is not convivial to an average night out, where you migth want to meet your mixed friends in a non-gay bar, pop into a gay bar later for a drink and a dance, then go somewhere else.

The old niche might be OK. It's a shame we cant re-claim the wicker, or the victoria quays, or the riverside- areas that are grotty now but ripe for quite rapid turnaround.

many people have come with sum really positive ideas keep them comming where here for you!

Unlike many who want to make a quick buck were not here for that we use the scene too,

with regards to premises we take on board the need for sumthing in the city center or v nearby,

if any one knows of any suitable venues that are to become vacant or are vacant can you please forward the name of the venue plus any contact details for the letting agents

Many Thanks
Pussy Cats Team

I am happy with 'FAB' to be honest:thumbsup:. It's just arrived and fulfills my own 'gay night out in Sheffield' requirements. But I think it's great that you are going to offer a further venue for the gay scene and in the city centre. It will also to keep those 'westies' happy, who think anything outside the City Centre is like going to Carlisle! Two things to watch out for are...

a) that the Sheffield gay 'scene' can support another gay venue (it's a very small scene and always has been in terms of the amount of people that go out here) and...

b) that the Sheffield gay people will SUPPORT your venue beyond the initial opening furor - as they (we?) are notorious for flocking to a place then abandoning it after a matter or months or sometimes weeks, sometimes for good reasons. Although, to be fair, this happens on any scene after opening excitement has died down, and that is any club or bar's challenge.

Commendations for giving this a go and good luck with your project.:thumbsup:

Cheers
DN:cool:

The former 'Crash' club at the bottom of Fitzwilliam street has been empty for ages now.

hi kinky lucy do you know who the letting agents are and is there a to let sign

cheers

Pussy Cats

there is a sign up, i've seen it too. next to DQ. will look next time i go past.

thanks very much :P

Hi Pussy Cats. What I would hope for in a new gay venue in sheffield is something sheffield hasn't seen before or feels it would never achieve, such as something up to date and modern, based in the city centre, obviously with all things you would expect such as friendly staff /security and comfortable surroundings, good music DJ's, something you would find in leeds/manchester. As you have pointed out there are 3 gay venues in sheffield presently. I believe there is still room for another if it offered something different to what is being offered by these 3 presently. All 3 venues offer something for differnt people so i'm not being negative when i say that

1) Dempsys is very low market (which puts a lot of younger guys, students, and gay professional people off going) the decor is very 1980's and dated. and the security are not known for their friendly warm welcoming especially to new visitors, the music at times is very poor.

2) Club XS is in a simular vain to Dempseys but is good in that it is open late the downside is often the poor dated music, and the venue being stuck in the outback away from good public transport and is very doggy when walking home in such a rough area

3) Club fab is new and will take quiet a bit of the market being the main club I haven't had a chance to check it out but lots of friends have and their opinion is that the venue is done out nicely though not very modern, the music is quiet poor very cheesy and a bit of an odd mix and the venue is way out in the sticks in a rough area were it was several years ago, also the entertainment is very dated drag acts/strippers ect. F.A.B appears to be vey popular with the older gay population which rememeber the fond times of the old sheffield gay scene when it was all based in the same area.

so to reiterate i'm not having a go at theses venues as they offer a good service to some people and they enjoy them. I just believe for something new to work it would have to be something that would attracting the many young gay people especially students that don't identify with the present gay scene and the more professional gay population that lives in sheffield but tends to go to the gay venues in leeds or manchester..

I'm waiting for the on slaughter..lol.

Crickey the gay scene reminds me of buses.

We dont have much for a while, then all of a sudden we get a few venues.

We are becoming spoiled for choice. :)

Pussy Cats --> if you get going then PM me and can advertise it on my site.

What about the closed Charles Street club on Charles Street ? -this was a gay club once and has been closed for ages and is very central - ah I remember the Kylie night still .. non stop Kylie classics all night - out of this world ...

have you seen a to let sign up on the charles st club??

That will be part of the new New Retail Quarter.

well were are trying to find out who own crash on fitzwilliam street but its a nightmare getting hold of contact details

i'll get them for ya pusscats i live bang next door to it :)

cheers damo, do you know if there is a to let board on there and is the club called crash?

I'm sure Steve Baxendale had something to do with Crash. I may well be wrong.

On the gay venue thing. Make it about the music rather than anything else

take a look at all these Crash releated threads, you may get some info out of them

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=184015&highlight=crash+bar
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=177405&highlight=crash+bar
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168864&highlight=crash+bar
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168879&highlight=crash+bar

I was thinking (it's taken me all day)... People say there's a very small scene in sheffield (meaning a small number of people) but i reckon that its at least partially cos there's not much variety of venues.

This means that once a new place opens, the scene 'regulars' flock to it, an initial furore as others have said. Then interest wanes, or another new place comes along and things hit the skids. (ona side note, no venue ever seems to build this fact into their business plans)

1)- Niche markets: There aren't many gay places which appeal to different niches. Think about different types of music other than what i would call 'generic gay bar pop and dance' (not a technical term). Then what about places which are friendly but not cruisy- somewhere that would appeal to the settled couples among us. And the professional types. Lesbians? Rockers, indie kids, ravers. Anyone who wouldnt be impressed, actually, if they popped in during the initial 'furore' phase cos it wouldn't be their cuppa, but who needs to be drawn in after the initial opening flush...
2) The 'Gay Drain' effect: We are literally shedding people who could be potential customers for our scene- those who are attracted away from sheffield to the giddy gay heights of leeds, machester, london- so many of my gay friends go out for nights out in other cities all the time, or have moved away entirely(and they assure me it's not personal!)
3) No Pulling Power- we are a big city, not only shoul;d we be catering to our own gay population, we should be pulling em in from up and down the M1- wakefield, nottingham, etc, lots of places which are nearer to us than we are to manchester. We should be pulling in more people to our venues than we lose to other cities!

So i reckon if the scene could diversify, cater to different tastes and types, realise that at first the 'regulars' will flock in but that tyey will not be the eventual 'core' target market, continue to attract the core audience once the 'furore' phase tapers off, then the scene could develop a 'critical mass' which it never really has done, retaining our sheffield gays, and attracting in those from outside, while drawing in customers who usually would be at straight places, diner parties or just wouldnt usually go out cos it's not their thing.

Anyway, there's the business plan half done, my fees are very reasonable...!

Crickey the gay scene reminds me of buses.

We dont have much for a while, then all of a sudden we get a few venues.

We are becoming spoiled for choice. :)

Pussy Cats --> if you get going then PM me and can advertise it on my site.But as usual, the queens will start slagging them off....

cheers damo, do you know if there is a to let board on there and is the club called crash?

From recent experience try these companies:

Lane Walker
Frank Knight
Brownhill and Vickers

They all appear to have the monopoly on property in the city centre.

Also check out the website for the new retail quarter in Sheffield. At the moment the average rent for a venue in Sheffield city centre is about £75,000 to £85,000.

1)- Niche markets: There aren't many gay places which appeal to different niches. Think about different types of music other than what i would call 'generic gay bar pop and dance' (not a technical term). Then what about places which are friendly but not cruisy- somewhere that would appeal to the settled couples among us. And the professional types. Lesbians? Rockers, indie kids, ravers.


Exactly, every place that opens in Sheffield is the same as what has just closed. Fuel closes and FAB opens as almost exactly the same thing, but in a different location, if people got bored going to Fuel they're going to get bored with FAB. There is no choice, it's twink-disco-cheese or nothing. That's where other cities succeed, there is variety and a choice.

there was a board outside, the number was 07739 040642. hope that helps!

I was thinking (it's taken me all day)... People say there's a very small scene in sheffield (meaning a small number of people) but i reckon that its at least partially cos there's not much variety of venues.

This means that once a new place opens, the scene 'regulars' flock to it, an initial furore as others have said. Then interest wanes, or another new place comes along and things hit the skids. (ona side note, no venue ever seems to build this fact into their business plans)

1)- Niche markets: There aren't many gay places which appeal to different niches. Think about different types of music other than what i would call 'generic gay bar pop and dance' (not a technical term). Then what about places which are friendly but not cruisy- somewhere that would appeal to the settled couples among us. And the professional types. Lesbians? Rockers, indie kids, ravers. Anyone who wouldnt be impressed, actually, if they popped in during the initial 'furore' phase cos it wouldn't be their cuppa, but who needs to be drawn in after the initial opening flush...
2) The 'Gay Drain' effect: We are literally shedding people who could be potential customers for our scene- those who are attracted away from sheffield to the giddy gay heights of leeds, machester, london- so many of my gay friends go out for nights out in other cities all the time, or have moved away entirely(and they assure me it's not personal!)
3) No Pulling Power- we are a big city, not only shoul;d we be catering to our own gay population, we should be pulling em in from up and down the M1- wakefield, nottingham, etc, lots of places which are nearer to us than we are to manchester. We should be pulling in more people to our venues than we lose to other cities!

So i reckon if the scene could diversify, cater to different tastes and types, realise that at first the 'regulars' will flock in but that tyey will not be the eventual 'core' target market, continue to attract the core audience once the 'furore' phase tapers off, then the scene could develop a 'critical mass' which it never really has done, retaining our sheffield gays, and attracting in those from outside, while drawing in customers who usually would be at straight places, diner parties or just wouldnt usually go out cos it's not their thing.

Anyway, there's the business plan half done, my fees are very reasonable...!well said and absolutely accurate

But as usual, the queens will start slagging them off....

Yes I see it already started. :mad:

Hi Pussy Cats. What I would hope for in a new gay venue in sheffield is something sheffield hasn't seen before or feels it would never achieve, such as something up to date and modern, based in the city centre, obviously with all things you would expect such as friendly staff /security and comfortable surroundings, good music DJ's, something you would find in leeds/manchester. As you have pointed out there are 3 gay venues in sheffield presently. I believe there is still room for another if it offered something different to what is being offered by these 3 presently. All 3 venues offer something for differnt people so i'm not being negative when i say that

1) Dempsys is very low market (which puts a lot of younger guys, students, and gay professional people off going) the decor is very 1980's and dated. and the security are not known for their friendly warm welcoming especially to new visitors, the music at times is very poor.

2) Club XS is in a simular vain to Dempseys but is good in that it is open late the downside is often the poor dated music, and the venue being stuck in the outback away from good public transport and is very doggy when walking home in such a rough area

3) Club fab is new and will take quiet a bit of the market being the main club I haven't had a chance to check it out but lots of friends have and their opinion is that the venue is done out nicely though not very modern, the music is quiet poor very cheesy and a bit of an odd mix and the venue is way out in the sticks in a rough area were it was several years ago, also the entertainment is very dated drag acts/strippers ect. F.A.B appears to be vey popular with the older gay population which rememeber the fond times of the old sheffield gay scene when it was all based in the same area.

so to reiterate i'm not having a go at theses venues as they offer a good service to some people and they enjoy them. I just believe for something new to work it would have to be something that would attracting the many young gay people especially students that don't identify with the present gay scene and the more professional gay population that lives in sheffield but tends to go to the gay venues in leeds or manchester..

I'm waiting for the on slaughter..lol.

Sheffield is not ready for a pretentious plastic, poser-type venue.

Leeds wasnt ready neither when Fibre was dropped into it, and now it has a predominantly straight clientele.

I was thinking (it's taken me all day)... People say there's a very small scene in sheffield (meaning a small number of people) but i reckon that its at least partially cos there's not much variety of venues.

This means that once a new place opens, the scene 'regulars' flock to it, an initial furore as others have said. Then interest wanes, or another new place comes along and things hit the skids. (ona side note, no venue ever seems to build this fact into their business plans)



From what i gather people haven't flocked to fab, and its a new venue. More a steady stream of people, on the different nights..

Therefore, this disproves your theory..

Therefore, this disproves your theory..


I wouldn't say one instance (of hearsay) proves or disproves a damn thing.

from a business point of veiw on a business plan you can only plan theoretical figuers, no one person knows just how much of a knock on affect a new venue will have over an exsiting one,

we are today veiwing venues in various places of sheffield, we have taken on board that some of you would like it in the vacinity of the city centre nr to the mainstream bars and clubs and the fact that no one had been "brave" enough to challenge this,

Due to the development of the moor most units that are empty are due for re devel as you already know, we have spoken to the council that deal with short sub leases but they cannot offer any fixed dates of when the venue`s can be occupied until.

if you look at the overall factor of why people set up " shop" outside the centre its due to overheads being excessive, and some set up trying to revive "old skool" days,

we need to find a balance that all of the community are happy with

More like no sense of loyalty to old places once a new place opens.

'pussy cats team'.... dont you have a car between you...? why not just drive to sheffield and have a look round for yourselves instead of touting for venues on here? surely that would be the most logical and practical approach to your quest for a venue? p.s >>> im not having a bitch by the way, i just dont get your business logic. failing that there are websites that offer businesses to let, all you have to do is enter a search entitled, "business properties to let in sheffield" and whooooosh...!!! there they are... genius..!!!

from a business point of veiw on a business plan you can only plan theoretical figuers, no one person knows just how much of a knock on affect a new venue will have over an exsiting one,

we are today veiwing venues in various places of sheffield, we have taken on board that some of you would like it in the vacinity of the city centre nr to the mainstream bars and clubs and the fact that no one had been "brave" enough to challenge this,

Due to the development of the moor most units that are empty are due for re devel as you already know, we have spoken to the council that deal with short sub leases but they cannot offer any fixed dates of when the venue`s can be occupied until.

if you look at the overall factor of why people set up " shop" outside the centre its due to overheads being excessive, and some set up trying to revive "old skool" days,

we need to find a balance that all of the community are happy with

I wish you the very best of luck with your venture. I spent alot of time looking into a possible venue in Sheffield city centre and drew a blank. I was also accussed by some on this forum of being boring when I kept going on about the prices, licence restrictions and the impact of the redevelopment in the city centre. Some people think you can just say "I'll take that one" and it's as easy as that. Sheffield city centre is a nightmare to open a business in at the moment. Wait until Lions Lair is a pile of rubble, then where will everyone go ?? The redevlopment of the city centre is going to be huge, buildings, shops and bars will slowly start to disappear. In my opinion, not for the better. :(

Yes I see it already started. :mad:

Where ?

No-one has slagged anything off, people have just given their opinion and suggestions.

Sheffield is not ready for a pretentious plastic, poser-type venue..

If by pretentious, plastic and posey, you mean modern & contemporary, I think it is ready for it. Like someone said before, there's students and the younger end that would welcome it, along with all the people that currently go to other cities.

If by pretentious, plastic and posey, you mean modern & contemporary, I think it is ready for it. Like someone said before, there's students and the younger end that would welcome it, along with all the people that currently go to other cities.

These very people go to other cities for a change of scene - variety. Whatever venue you put in Sheffield will have the same faces, week in week out.

Sheffield is not ready for a pretentious plastic, poser-type venue.

Leeds wasnt ready neither when Fibre was dropped into it, and now it has a predominantly straight clientele.

Actually I think you'll find it is ready and who are you to decide it isn't?? secondly who mentioned pretentious? certainly not me i simply suggested something up to date modern non of which is pretentious. But from your reply i'm guessing you'll not be the type of person this place would attracted thank god.. and also this type of response is typical of some narrow mind queens that spoil it for the rest of us and hold back sheffield and the gay scene in it's development. I suggest in future that you carefully read a posting before making such a silly reply as in no way did my posting suggest pretentiousness.. though in doing this it would suggest someone has a brain....:loopy:

Somewhere like Takapuna would be ok, it's a shame the gay night there didn't catch on.

If by pretentious, plastic and posey, you mean modern & contemporary, I think it is ready for it. Like someone said before, there's students and the younger end that would welcome it, along with all the people that currently go to other cities.

I agree completely..:) If Sheffield wasn't ready how come over the last couple of years the city centre is full of modern / contemporary bars and clubs that are always full and people enjoy..are gay people in sheffield that different from straight sheffield folk..? I don't think so..or perhaps from the odd minority..

Actually I think you'll find it is ready and who are you to decide it isn't?? secondly who mentioned pretentious? certainly not me i simply suggested something up to date modern non of which is pretentious. But from your reply i'm guessing you'll not be the type of person this place would attracted thank god.. and also this type of response is typical of some narrow mind queens that spoil it for the rest of us and hold back sheffield and the gay scene in it's development. I suggest in future that you carefully read a posting before making such a silly reply as in no way did my posting suggest pretentiousness.. though in doing this it would suggest someone has a brain....:loopy:



get over yourself.

im afraid you will see i am right in this matter - your tone in your posts is very pretentious. mine may be condescending, but yours is very very pretentious.

:loopy::loopy:

I agree completely..:) If Sheffield wasn't ready how come over the last couple of years the city centre is full of modern / contemporary bars and clubs that are always full and people enjoy..are gay people in sheffield that different from straight sheffield folk..? I don't think so..or perhaps from the odd minority..

if sheffield was ready for it, sheffield would have it.

its an open market economy remember. if via fossa for example wanted to have a bar in sheffield (as in manc, notts and some others) - then they would.

also, please tell me one of the ''modern / contemporary bars and clubs that are always full'' in this city..

thanks.

also, please tell me one of the ''modern / contemporary bars and clubs that are always full'' in this city..

thanks.

To varing degrees on different nights, but every bar on West Street, every bar on Division Street, All Bar One, Lloyds #1, even the Bankers Draft or The Old Monk are always busy.

To varing degrees on different nights, but every bar on West Street, every bar on Division Street, All Bar One, Lloyds #1, even the Bankers Draft or The Old Monk are always busy.

ive been in a dead cavendish, a dead varsity, a dead s1, a dead westway, an ultra-dead takapuna...

i accept they are all busy busy at weekends, but am surprised they even bother opening sun- thurs.

with regards to a reply that was posted on here, the reason why we ask people to keep an "eye" out in sheffield for a prospective venue is that not all property agents list properties especially them that are new on the market, there is also the fact that a site might be closing soon and that its not even been advertised for let

we are leaving in around 20 mins to come to sheffield to view a few premises that i have lined up for inspection, we will not just take any old place and hope for the best it has to be hand picked and costs also have to balance,

i find that sheffield is up and comming hence the new "MOOR" project so yes it may well be ready for an injection of modern bars/clubs.

ive been in a dead cavendish, a dead varsity, a dead s1, a dead westway, an ultra-dead takapuna...

i accept they are all busy busy at weekends, but am surprised they even bother opening sun- thurs.

But obviously they have enough customers to make a profit and stay open, if you were correct then they would go out of bussiness becasue no-one would want to drink in them, obviously people do.

with regards to a reply that was posted on here, the reason why we ask people to keep an "eye" out in sheffield for a prospective venue is that not all property agents list properties especially them that are new on the market, there is also the fact that a site might be closing soon and that its not even been advertised for let

we are leaving in around 20 mins to come to sheffield to view a few premises that i have lined up for inspection, we will not just take any old place and hope for the best it has to be hand picked and costs also have to balance,

i find that sheffield is up and comming hence the new "MOOR" project so yes it may well be ready for an injection of modern bars/clubs.

good luck and i do wish you all the success in the world.

But obviously they have enough customers to make a profit and stay open, if you were correct then they would go out of bussiness becasue no-one would want to drink in them.

Thats not my argument at all. Bboy stated that there were a lot of modern bars that were always full.

i guess he was referring to the Bankers Draft.

:hihi:

Thats not my argument at all. Bboy stated that there were a lot of modern bars that were always full.

i guess he was referring to the Bankers Draft.

:hihi:

I thought your argument was that Sheffield wasn't ready for modern bars ?

I thought your argument was that Sheffield wasn't ready for modern bars ?

on the gay scene - i don't think it is..

sheffield is 5/10 years behind the regional entertainment capitals - ie manchester, nottingham, and i hate to say it leeds, newcastle.

I agree completely..:) If Sheffield wasn't ready how come over the last couple of years the city centre is full of modern / contemporary bars and clubs that are always full and people enjoy..are gay people in sheffield that different from straight sheffield folk..? I don't think so..or perhaps from the odd minority..

I believe that the LGB community in Sheffield are ready for a modern, contemporary and friendly bar BUT i am not sure that Sheffield is in a position to offer it. I know it is boring, but finding a venue in the city centre is not easy at the moment in Sheffield and actually there are not that many empty venues as the straight scene in Sheffield is very viable and successful. Those venues that are empty are being "ring fenced" for the licencess who are loosing their premises to demolition/modernisation, compulsory purchase orders due to the new retail quarter. Boring, but true.

Also, for once, I agree with Nick2 the bars on West Street etc are successful as they bring in the punters (the rents up there are out of this world) and a gay version of Takapuna would be great for the city.

Again, I believe that LGB Sheffield is ready but is SHEFFIELD ready !!!

with regards to a reply that was posted on here, the reason why we ask people to keep an "eye" out in sheffield for a prospective venue is that not all property agents list properties especially them that are new on the market, there is also the fact that a site might be closing soon and that its not even been advertised for let

we are leaving in around 20 mins to come to sheffield to view a few premises that i have lined up for inspection, we will not just take any old place and hope for the best it has to be hand picked and costs also have to balance,

i find that sheffield is up and comming hence the new "MOOR" project so yes it may well be ready for an injection of modern bars/clubs.

Try the old D and R Bar on Arundel Gate. I think the asking rent is £25,000.00 per year and is near the bus routes, tram routes and taxis ranks. Agent is Lane Walker. You might need to liaise with the council about current anti social dispersal orders logged against the address (caused by drug dealing).

I was 11 when I first moved to Sheffield (from horrible East London) and my Mum - a Yorkshire woman through and through, born and bred - took one look around and in a very superior voice and said. "Hmmmm, Sheffield? Big city, village attitude!".

At the time I had no idea what she meant:confused:, but growing up, going to school, working and living amongst fellow Sheffielders, I realised what her frighteningly accurate observation meant.

Having said that, if anyone outside Sheffield disses it, they get their head chopped off (even if I know what they are saying).

For me the city offers enough other great qualities to be able to bear the terminally inherent, small-town attitude the people have. And these qualities put it way ahead of holes like Leeds:gag: and Manchester:gag: where the people definitely think bigger:thumbsup:, have better nightclubs/bars:thumbsup:, but there is something missing, which we in Sheffield have. I can't put my finger on it and maybe I was never meant to.

As you can see I have a love:love:/hate:twisted: relationship with Sheffield - and that's a good thing, as it keeps me objective and grounded. I love seeing all the different views on here as it shows that people still want more, but others also recognise the inability of the people here to think big. I think Bootilicious is right, we live in a city that will never quite get it 'right' but you others are right in that it's definitely no reason to stop trying.

Oh and my Mum still lives here too - so she must like it really:P

Boho on Campo lane is up for rent / sale i beleive although i dont know exactly how big it is inside but if you make the setup right you could also open in the day for the office staff around that area for lunch etc.......just a thought

I was 11 when I first moved to Sheffield (from horrible East London) and my Mum - a Yorkshire woman through and through, born and bred - took one look around and in a very superior voice and said. "Hmmmm, Sheffield? Big city, village attitude!".

At the time I had no idea what she meant:confused:, but growing up, going to school, working and living amongst fellow Sheffielders, I realised what her frighteningly accurate observation meant.

Having said that, if anyone outside Sheffield disses it, they get their head chopped off (even if I know what they are saying).

For me the city offers enough other great qualities to be able to bear the terminally inherent, small-town attitude the people have. And these qualities put it way ahead of holes like Leeds:gag: and Manchester:gag: where the people definitely think bigger:thumbsup:, have better nightclubs/bars:thumbsup:, but there is something missing, which we in Sheffield have. I can't put my finger on it and maybe I was never meant to.

As you can see I have a love:love:/hate:twisted: relationship with Sheffield - and that's a good thing, as it keeps me objective and grounded. I love seeing all the different views on here as it shows that people still want more, but others also recognise the inability of the people here to think big. I think Bootilicious is right, we live in a city that will never quite get it 'right' but you others are right in that it's definitely no reason to stop trying.

Oh and my Mum still lives here too - so she must like it really:P

Yet again you are the voice of reason. As a fellow veteren of the scene I know what you are saying.

I was 11 when I first moved to Sheffield (from horrible East London) and my Mum - a Yorkshire woman through and through, born and bred - took one look around and in a very superior voice and said. "Hmmmm, Sheffield? Big city, village attitude!".

At the time I had no idea what she meant:confused:, but growing up, going to school, working and living amongst fellow Sheffielders, I realised what her frighteningly accurate observation meant.

Having said that, if anyone outside Sheffield disses it, they get their head chopped off (even if I know what they are saying).

For me the city offers enough other great qualities to be able to bear the terminally inherent, small-town attitude the people have. And these qualities put it way ahead of holes like Leeds:gag: and Manchester:gag: where the people definitely think bigger:thumbsup:, have better nightclubs/bars:thumbsup:, but there is something missing, which we in Sheffield have. I can't put my finger on it and maybe I was never meant to.

As you can see I have a love:love:/hate:twisted: relationship with Sheffield - and that's a good thing, as it keeps me objective and grounded. I love seeing all the different views on here as it shows that people still want more, but others also recognise the inability of the people here to think big. I think Bootilicious is right, we live in a city that will never quite get it 'right' but you others are right in that it's definitely no reason to stop trying.

Oh and my Mum still lives here too - so she must like it really:P

I agree largely with what you are saying especially with the big city small village attitude and this comes across clearly in Bootilious's rediculous attitude.. I believe that over the last couple of years the whole feel of sheffield (mainly city centre) has taken on a more cosmopolitan feel and taking into account that we attract thousands of people (Mainly students) to our city each year with different views and attitudes I feel this will slowly change.. Don't forget that at present Sheffield is the 4th largest city in England and is at the moment the fastest developing (in terms of economy) in England with a substantial growth in white collar professions..this will inevitable increase the need for relevant and different facilities (as it creates a knock on effect). Sheffield is in a process of redevelopment and change and such attitudes will only hold it back..the attitude should be optimistic not pessimistic.. After all we are only talking about a modern bar..

I agree largely with what you are saying especially with the big city small village attitude and this comes across clearly in Bootilious's rediculous attitude.. I believe that over the last couple of years the whole feel of sheffield (mainly city centre) has taken on a more cosmopolitan feel and taking into account that we attract thousands of people (Mainly students) to our city each year with different views and attitudes I feel this will slowly change.. Don't forget that at present Sheffield is the 4th largest city in England and is at the moment the fastest developing (in terms of economy) in England with a substantial growth in white collar professions..this will inevitable increase the need for relevant and different facilities (as it creates a knock on effect). Sheffield is in a process of redevelopment and change and such attitudes will only hold it back..the attitude should be optimistic not pessimistic.. After all we are only talking about a modern bar..

I agree with you that Sheffield needs a more modern gay scene, not only for those who live in the city but to attract visitors. On the development front I am not entirely convinced about the modernisation of Sheffield, coming from someone who was born an bread in Sheffield I am at a loss as to why we are demolishing some of our best buildings for glass fronted crap and why we are distroying our industrial, northern heritage (but then thats for another thread) :idea:

get over yourself.

im afraid you will see i am right in this matter - your tone in your posts is very pretentious. mine may be condescending, but yours is very very pretentious.

:loopy::loopy:

I suggest that you invest in a dictionary and look up what words actually mean before using them you are not being condescending..perhaps annoying..narrow minded..judgemental and pathetic..and even pessimistic..but not condescending..

As for me being pretentious I suggest you look that up at the same time and if you feel that I am it says more about you and that you having some kind a complex of inadequacy, which I suggest you see someone about..now that's me being condescending..remember you started this childish argument by not being able to debate a topic without resorting to childish remarks and attempting to get personal ..I'll finish this by saying i'm not entering into this with you any further..

on the gay scene - i don't think it is..

sheffield is 5/10 years behind the regional entertainment capitals - ie manchester, nottingham, and i hate to say it leeds, newcastle.

Sheffield's economy this year was ahead Leeds and Manchesters. Fact. Look it up if you dont believe me.

I suggest that you invest in a dictionary and look up what words actually mean before using them you are not being condescending..perhaps annoying..narrow minded..judgemental and pathetic..and even pessimistic..but not condescending..

As for me being pretentious I suggest you look that up at the same time and if you feel that I am it says more about you and that you having some kind a complex of inadequacy, which I suggest you see someone about..now that's me being condescending..remember you started this childish argument by not being able to debate a topic without resorting to childish remarks and attempting to get personal ..I'll finish this by saying i'm not entering into this with you any further..

Now now girls, play nice. :nono:

Now now girls, play nice. :nono:

Lol..yes I intend to :D

Sheffield's economy this year was ahead Leeds and Manchesters. Fact. Look it up if you dont believe me.But attitude wise its a way behind

I suggest that you invest in a dictionary and look up what words actually mean before using them you are not being condescending..perhaps annoying..narrow minded..judgemental and pathetic..and even pessimistic..but not condescending..

As for me being pretentious I suggest you look that up at the same time and if you feel that I am it says more about you and that you having some kind a complex of inadequacy, which I suggest you see someone about..now that's me being condescending..remember you started this childish argument by not being able to debate a topic without resorting to childish remarks and attempting to get personal ..I'll finish this by saying i'm not entering into this with you any further..

How childish. and ridiculous

You are living in a fantasy world, with no grip on reality.

You will also find its you who is getting personal with your posts.

You're obnoxious, filled with bitterness and venom. Are you a southerner by any chance?

:loopy::loopy::loopy::suspect::gag:

Keep it sweet chaps.

There's room for more than one opinion on the forum.

Sheffield's economy this year was ahead Leeds and Manchesters. Fact. Look it up if you dont believe me.

Yes, Sheffield's Economy is at an all time high during the last year... I wasn't saying otherwise.

However, Sheffield is still seriously trailing behind Manchester and Leeds, and Nottingham in status, employment, income etc etc.

Keep it sweet chaps.

There's room for more than one opinion on the forum.

Of course there is.. :cool:

Of course there is.. :cool:

Well grow up then..and allow people to voice their opinion without you attacking people with childish insults..actually you started this whole situation and if you/or anyone else looks back over the posting it's clear that you was the one that just started to be insulting and making personal remarks..most people come on here to chat maturely including myself, as other including you seem to just want to cause trouble and this is evident from your previous postings..personally i think you should be warned or removed from the forum..

Also i'm a sheffielder born and bread..so not a southerner..Is this you again passing judgement and being prejudice..??i think so :loopy:

Keep it sweet chaps.

There's room for more than one opinion on the forum.

I completely agree and was simply contributing to a discussion before being bombed by loads of childish insults..hope the topic gets back on track.. :D

Well grow up then..and allow people to voice their opinion without you attacking people with childish insults..actually you started this whole situation and if you/or anyone else looks back over the posting it's clear that you was the one that just started to be insulting and making personal remarks..most people come on here to chat maturely including myself, as other including you seem to just want to cause trouble and this is evident from your previous postings..personally i think you should be warned or removed from the forum..

Also i'm a sheffielder born and bread..so not a southerner..Is this you again passing judgement and being prejudice..??i think so :loopy:


ooh look at u little hitler.

you are talking nonsense, and would make a great guest on jeremy kyle.

you are not worth the effort. i imagine your sat there, crying behind your monitor right now, craving for attention...

:loopy::loopy::loopy::loopy:

Mod note: Ok. I've tried pleasant but obviously the message isn't quite getting through.

If people insist on continuing with bitchiness and personal insults then the thread will be closed and bans may be issued.

Now, back on topic.

well said stagewalker.

is it worthwhile putting up a 'bitchy gay argument' thread as a decoy so we can discuss proper things in proper threads?

...back on topic- campo lane would be good. Of course sheffield is ready for a modern venue. But it's great that we also have a real 'old school' gay scene contingent. we ought to be catering for all.

Some one said that gay people from sheffield go to mancshter leeds etc scene for a change not just cos there's nothing on offer in sheffield- well sure sometimes that's right, but on the other hand, not many of my friends from manchester coem out to sheffield scene 'for a change'... why would they? I definitely reckon some diversification of the scene is needed. Go Pussycats!

so Fuel has closed??? Well thats the 3rd gay bar/club thats been there in so many years..

good luck to you

BIG thank you to everyone at FAB. I had a great time on Saturday, the music was great, enjoyed chatting to folks I have not seen in ages and I got Soooooooooooo drunk.

FAB night. :)

Fab is jus another dempseys, but in the middle of nowhere and there aint anything special it to make me wanna go back their especially when there are way better straight clubs in town and dempseys in town if i fancy a bit of gay.

we went fab tonight (monday) for a bit, cant say it was particularly impressive at all though really.

I went the other week and I thought it was pretty un 'FAB'. Not keen on the lay out and general 'Dumpsey's but larger' vibe of the place. Xes for me much more cosier - better atmosphere, nice beer garden etc. That is just my opinion though.

Yes, Sheffield's Economy is at an all time high during the last year... I wasn't saying otherwise.

However, Sheffield is still seriously trailing behind Manchester and Leeds, and Nottingham in status, employment, income etc etc.


Who says so and where is this statement from? Sheffield are actually working with Leeds and Manchetser to create a power hub of connected cities to rival city ecomomics in London. I think it would be a very wise idea for someone with a bit of business sense to get into Sheffield ciy centre and make an effort with a gay bar as Dempseys wont be there for much longer with the planned Moor regeneration....get in there before anyone else realises the possbile potential!

Oh no Dempseys closing?? World civilization will come to an end when that happens ...

Who says so and where is this statement from? Sheffield are actually working with Leeds and Manchetser to create a power hub of connected cities to rival city ecomomics in London. I think it would be a very wise idea for someone with a bit of business sense to get into Sheffield ciy centre and make an effort with a gay bar as Dempseys wont be there for much longer with the planned Moor regeneration....get in there before anyone else realises the possbile potential!


hmm - both Leeds is the principal City for the Yorkshire and Humber Region.. Manchester is the principal City for the North West Region... Nottingham is the principal City for the East Mids Region...

Sheffield isn't a principal City at all..

Manchester, Leeds and Nottingham, are all years ahead of Sheffield. Granted Sheffield is now experiencing some regeneration, and its well overdue.

I love Sheffield, and wont have a bad word said against it, but we cannot continue to ignore the truth of the matter, Sheffield is a second rate City to Manchester, Leeds and Nottingham...

Who says so and where is this statement from? Sheffield are actually working with Leeds and Manchetser to create a power hub of connected cities to rival city ecomomics in London. I think it would be a very wise idea for someone with a bit of business sense to get into Sheffield ciy centre and make an effort with a gay bar as Dempseys wont be there for much longer with the planned Moor regeneration....get in there before anyone else realises the possbile potential!


and any potential bar/club owner, would wait until the regeneration is completed...

The plans/designs etc, will all change and the actual result/finished product, will be nothing like what we are being encouraged to expect...

:rolleyes:

Hi we have been watching the thread regarding the gay scence in sheffield, or the lack of it,

We are a company who manage a few publice houses and clubs in the midlands, we are now posting this to take your comments and suggestions of just what you want obviosly we provide the manpower and money you the customer provide the ideas not just another gay venue that opens its doors and hopes for the best !!

PUSSYCATS - is the venue name we have looked at many venues in sheffield one being the ex Fuel Club on eyre st, information was provided as to the plans for this site, and is being redeveloped to fit into the moor

We are looking at taking over what was Censord Rock, surrey st nr to the train station and bus routes, however if any body knows of any venues that have become vacant and would be a suitable venue then please get in touch.

we belive there are a few places that are gay venues,, F.A.B ,, Xes,, Dempseys.. do they offer what you want? do you feel safe?? and how easy is transport these key things help a club help its clients

once the right venue has been found the initial process will be to ask your veiws on what you the gay community want and to be able to achive this we will ask people with ideas to join us in the development of the venue and share there thoughts and interests.

We look forward to Bringing PussyCats Club to sheffield and hope the sheffield community welcome a club with a difference
HI i wish you luck in finding a venue its about time we put sheffield back on the map rumors are there two pre bars opening close to us near fab looks like we are going to have another gay village again in attercliffe thanks ADAM :):)

Exactly, every place that opens in Sheffield is the same as what has just closed. Fuel closes and FAB opens as almost exactly the same thing, but in a different location, if people got bored going to Fuel they're going to get bored with FAB. There is no choice, it's twink-disco-cheese or nothing. That's where other cities succeed, there is variety and a choice.thats why we have 6djs to give people more choice in music they play in other cities on different nights leeds manchester birmingham have you been down every night to hear the different music ? thanks ADAM :)

I went the other week and I thought it was pretty un 'FAB'. Not keen on the lay out and general 'Dumpsey's but larger' vibe of the place. Xes for me much more cosier - better atmosphere, nice beer garden etc. That is just my opinion though.we have got phase 2 to open and a beer garden to open the garden should be open for the weekend for us smokers if you botherd to check ot our web site you would have known this thanks ADAM :):)

we went fab tonight (monday) for a bit, cant say it was particularly impressive at all though really.well we cant please the minorty had loads of fab feed back but you allways get bitching on the forum i suggest you put your money were your mouth is a buy your own club we have spent a lot of money allready on the club we have only been open 2 weeks and monday any where is quite but could you tell me where stright or gay in a night club where you can get house double and mixer for 2 pounds and all draught and bottles at 1,50 mondays thursdays and sundays ? check out our web site WWW.FABGAYCLUB.COM thanks ADAM :)

we went fab tonight (monday) for a bit, cant say it was particularly impressive at all though really.


Monday !!!! :confused: Why not try it on a Friday or Saturday before you jump to sweeping, bitching statements.

we have got phase 2 to open and a beer garden to open the garden should be open for the weekend for us smokers if you botherd to check ot our web site you would have known this thanks ADAM :):)

Keep going Adam. I, and my friends really enjoyed our time at FAB. :) Ignore the negative stuff, those people never have a good thing to say or give anything a chance to settle down before slagging it off.

Can we please have more positive LGB stuff on the Forum, not just constant negative comments and bitching, PLEASE.

we have got phase 2 to open and a beer garden to open the garden should be open for the weekend for us smokers if you botherd to check ot our web site you would have known this thanks ADAM :):)

No I didnt 'bother'. I'm afraid I didnt enjoy it at FAB, like marmite...some like it some dont. It's not my kind of thing as a gay venue. However this is my opinion I'm sure other people do enjoy it.....

I really enjoyed it at fab!! It reminded me of the good old days when gays were gays and straights were...well...somewhere else. Non of this fancy cocktail trendy gay bar nonsense for me! Canal street too cosmopolitan for me....

Deffo has to b in town! i like that idea, i think thats what made fuel! i want, different dj on different nights, and i mean real djs, not the bar staff and a few "now! thats what i call dance" cds! a mixture of music. but most of all Promtions on drinks from time to time! also if its gunna be an night club then have sum good lights and a good sound system. Cellar35 has one of the best sound systems in sheffield! and thats now gay(ish) on tuesday nights, sooo u got sum competition!

The old careers office near fuel is free!! is has a massive sign up sayin "to let, offices/club oppotunity" i dont know how big it is inside but give it a try!

x

Deffo has to b in town! i like that idea, i think thats what made fuel! i want, different dj on different nights, and i mean real djs, not the bar staff and a few "now! thats what i call dance" cds! a mixture of music. but most of all Promtions on drinks from time to time! also if its gunna be an night club then have sum good lights and a good sound system. Cellar35 has one of the best sound systems in sheffield! and thats now gay(ish) on tuesday nights, sooo u got sum competition!

The old careers office near fuel is free!! is has a massive sign up sayin "to let, offices/club oppotunity" i dont know how big it is inside but give it a try!

x

Cellar35 competition are you joking :loopy: Most gay men I have spoke to who tried the Tuesday night and hated it, the staff were rude and some downright homophobic. One guy reported some real abuse from Celler35 on this forum which was VERY worrying. The Star newspaper carried an article about the place saying South Yorks Police were monitoring the place at weekends due to complaints.


They are just after the pink pound on a night that is normally dead.

No I didnt 'bother'. I'm afraid I didnt enjoy it at FAB, like marmite...some like it some dont. It's not my kind of thing as a gay venue. However this is my opinion I'm sure other people do enjoy it.....

You can't please all the people all the time. It would appear that most younger people want somewhere in town (yeah like thats going to happen, do the younger population not read the Star or know what is going on in Sheffield city centre with the massive redevelopment). Their are no plans to open or build new licenced premises in the city centre and those buildings that are free are being ring fenced for the owners of premises that have been compulsary purchased by the council and are due to be demolished. The council wants to encourage less nightclubs/bars and more city centre living and shopping.

It would appear that most younger people want somewhere in town

I'd be very suprised if anyone realy wants to spend the evening in Attercliffe.

Cellar35 competition are you joking :loopy: Most gay men I have spoke to who tried the Tuesday night and hated it, the staff were rude and some downright homophobic. One guy reported some real abuse from Celler35 on this forum which was VERY worrying. The Star newspaper carried an article about the place saying South Yorks Police were monitoring the place at weekends due to complaints.


They are just after the pink pound on a night that is normally dead. me and gary are gay brothers born and bred in sheffield we have worked the gay scene for many years we do listen to peoples view negitive or positive and not here to rip our own scene off on our nites off you will allways see me out enjoying a drink in our other bars and clubs the same with gary and simon and colin and kieran we have all been friends for many years and we all work together does cellar 35 do house doubles for 2 pound and all draught and bottles for 1.50 ? think not like you said cashing in on the pink pound its our scene look after it and it will look after you surport our scene what we have gotand its building lets put sheffield back on the map thanks ADAM :):)

Deffo has to b in town! i like that idea, i think thats what made fuel! i want, different dj on different nights, and i mean real djs, not the bar staff and a few "now! thats what i call dance" cds! a mixture of music. but most of all Promtions on drinks from time to time! also if its gunna be an night club then have sum good lights and a good sound system. Cellar35 has one of the best sound systems in sheffield! and thats now gay(ish) on tuesday nights, sooo u got sum competition!

The old careers office near fuel is free!! is has a massive sign up sayin "to let, offices/club oppotunity" i dont know how big it is inside but give it a try!

x why in town ? theres plenty of bars in attercliffe we have different djs every nite and they work climax leeds manchester and birmingham not in house djs we spend money on quality djs not bar staff doubling up as djs support the scene not streight venues puting gay nites on there quite nites check out our web site for promoions on drinks WWW.FABGAYCLUB.COM thanks ADAM :):)

I'd be very suprised if anyone realy wants to spend the evening in Attercliffe. NEGITIVE again nick 2 very sad get a life get out more you even might find someone instead of sat on your own in front of your pc :loopy:

NEGITIVE again nick 2 very sad get a life get out more you even might find someone instead of sat on your own in front of your pc :loopy:

Saying Attercliffe is a dump is not being negative, it's being realistic, Attercliffe is a dump, it always has been, it was a dump back in the halcyon days of The Albert and Rockies and it still is today.

I'm not saying your club is a dump, just the area it's in is.

p.s. I have a partner, thats why I don't "need" the scene and can choose to go somehere that I like rather than somewhere were I stand a chance of getting laid.

why in town ? theres plenty of bars in attercliffe we have different djs every nite and they work climax leeds manchester and birmingham not in house djs we spend money on quality djs not bar staff doubling up as djs support the scene not streight venues puting gay nites on there quite nites check out our web site for promoions on drinks WWW.FABGAYCLUB.COM thanks ADAM :):)

i for 1 hav been2 fab 2 times and have loved it both times... i was just on about fuel when it was open.

I've not posted on here for a bit because I've been busy with work but so far I've heard nothing but bad things about FAB. Not that any of Adams bunch of followers would ever say that.

I stand by what i said before Attercliffe is a dump it's NOT safe at night (that's an official line from the police too!) and that's why I won't ever be going.

Some people on this forum need to accept they aren't young little things anymore and that the gay scene as a whole has moved on

Nick2, if you don't 'need' a scene, then why do you come here so much and criticise the efforts of those trying to create one? Bite my head off in your 'usual' style if you want, but I am just curious. It is a genuine question, as there seems to be a contradiction here in the nature of your posts and even your presence here.

Ha, if Attercliffe is a 'dump' (I've seen far worse places believe me), then so is West Street/Division Street. Sticking a few so called trendy bars on 2 miserable, gloomy streets with all those opppressive, depressing buildings just keeps me away from that area. Attercliffe, with all it's true 'Sheffield culture' of the past (i.e, Steelworks - and there are still a few) has more 'real' ambience in it's little finger than the horrible West Street area. Also you have far, far, more chance of being beaten up on West Street than Attercliffe as there is not a soul around in Attercliffe in the hours after dark - I know, as I always walked home from Planet (it's only 2 miles you unfit boyz!) - ok staggered:rolleyes:.... and I do now again from FAB with no fear. In fact on opening night at FAB, me and other half were walking home and the police pulled up because it was such an unusual sight to see a living soul walking back that way at 2am. When they found out where we'd been they wanted to know how opening night went, how many were there and if it had been a fun night!:)

And there were plenty younger guys in FAB on Saturday night, so I don't know where that argument is coming from.

Keep up the great work Adam!:thumbsup:

I've not posted on here for a bit because I've been busy with work but so far I've heard nothing but bad things about FAB. Not that any of Adams bunch of followers would ever say that.

I stand by what i said before Attercliffe is a dump it's NOT safe at night (that's an official line from the police too!) and that's why I won't ever be going.

Some people on this forum need to accept they aren't young little things anymore and that the gay scene as a whole has moved onbitching is back you 2 should get together sure you would make a nice couple of xxxxx all we have had is good feed back and people thanking us for bringing a good club to the scene i dont live in a dump you must be talking about your own place shamefull i think you want to grow up and get a life and stop living in your cyber life :loopy:

Saying Attercliffe is a dump is not being negative, it's being realistic, Attercliffe is a dump, it always has been, it was a dump back in the halcyon days of The Albert and Rockies and it still is today.

I'm not saying your club is a dump, just the area it's in is.

p.s. I have a partner, thats why I don't "need" the scene and can choose to go somehere that I like rather than somewhere were I stand a chance of getting laid. i feel sorry for him :loopy:

if attercliffe is such a good place for a club why havent gatecrasher baught some where out that way and why aint there any other straight clubs out that way?

Personally with a chocie of dempseys, in town, or a club that is just the same as demspesys well out of town, i will choose dempseys.

at least fuel was different, had good range of music an acts an was loud an proud in the middle of town. bring back fuel!

Nick2, if you don't 'need' a scene, then why do you come here so much and criticise the efforts of those trying to create one?

Mainly because he is just a troll, ignore him and the others as they have nothing else better to do to be honest.

Attercliffe might not be the most upmarket area of our city, but I don't think it could really be described as dangerous.

I suppose if you did (for some unknown reason) decide to wander around the 'backstreets' of Attercliffe alone at night it probably wouldn't be the best of ideas, but you're far more likely to get smacked by some drunk in town than a couple of lost swingers in Attercliffe.

I live in the Devonshire quarter of the city centre and before that ecclesall so i think I should know what is a dump and what isn't.

I have walked round the city centre at various times in the morning and have had no trouble whatsoever.

I have also been privvy to the figures for crimes commited against people in attercliffe of an evening.

If i'm the one needing to grow up then why havent I resorted to name calling adam?

If i haven't got anything better to do pete why is it i've not been on here for a few weeks? unlike you I dont live on this forum kissing the arse of the next person to run a gay venue.

I have spoken to at least 2 people close to the running of Fab and they have nothing but bad things to say so thats enough for me to not wanna go.

I really enjoyed it at fab!! It reminded me of the good old days when gays were gays and straights were...well...somewhere else. Non of this fancy cocktail trendy gay bar nonsense for me! Canal street too cosmopolitan for me....

sarcasm. in its finest form..

:rolleyes:

if attercliffe is such a good place for a club why havent gatecrasher baught some where out that way and why aint there any other straight clubs out that way?

Personally with a chocie of dempseys, in town, or a club that is just the same as demspesys well out of town, i will choose dempseys.

at least fuel was different, had good range of music an acts an was loud an proud in the middle of town. bring back fuel!

Gatecrasher are too busy making money in Nottingham and Leeds. Sheffield wasn't making enough, so had to go.

And OMG, don't tempt fate - Fuel has no place in this City:gag::gag:

ive been on the saturday night in its first week and i enjoyed it! not hard to get to either so cant see what all the moaning is about, yes its in attercliffe so what! Xes is on carlisle street near burngreave people still go there dont they!

at the end of the day you cant please everyone if you dont like it dont go but stop putting all the negative comments, say you little bit and move onto another thread no use repeating yourself over and over again because personally i dont give a sh*t about anyone else long as i enjoy my nights out with my mates and i certainly enjoyed my night in fab (although i did get hammmered) and would recommend it to anyone, its not hard to get to plenty of buses pass there and there is the tram or taxi. on way home there is loads of taxis passing.

keep up the good work is what i say, give the city a bit of variety!

I live in the Devonshire quarter of the city centre and before that ecclesall so i think I should know what is a dump and what isn't.

I have walked round the city centre at various times in the morning and have had no trouble whatsoever.

I have also been privvy to the figures for crimes commited against people in attercliffe of an evening.

I have spoken to at least 2 people close to the running of Fab and they have nothing but bad things to say so thats enough for me to not wanna go.

The Devonshire Quarter - urgh, *shudder*. Still, we all have our right to choose - so stay there and be happy and leave the rest of us in peace to travel out to Attercliffe.

"Privvy to the figures for crimes commited against people in Attercliffe?"
'Privvy'? Sounds very suspect to me. Anyway who committed those crimes? The ducks on the River Don? I never see a living soul, not even on the backstreets. Hard to get beat up by a duck, but maybe not for you:shocked:

Do you actually know anyone who got homophobically attacked in Attercliffe? My mate got homophobically attacked in Sheffield city centre, just off the DQuarter. That doesn't mean I would never dare to go there ever again? I don't because the DQ is a pretentious yet gloomy and depressing place with no character.

"2 people close the the running of FAB".
What does 'close' to the running of' actually mean? They either run it, or they don't. I ordered from Adam last Saturday at the bar, therefore I was 'close' to someone running FAB. Does that put me in that category? If you haven't been, then you really can't comment. I spoke to someone who went to Spain once and said it was rubbish. Does that mean I believe him to to the point of never going there myself? No, I make up my own mind. At least Bootylicious has been to FAB and has a right to post his opinion. Respect to him.:thumbsup:

Respect everyone's right to choose. After all we expect that same respect from society. And remember you should also experience something or somewhere before putting it down. After that, if you don't like it, post your opinion (constructively if that is possible for you), then be silent, for your work here is over.:D

I dont think slagging people off is the way to get customers adam, even if the comment was directed towards you and where you live and your club, rise above it, as a buisness person you should know that the people or person who you "bitch" about is a potential paying customer with friends who have friends.

that is why the scene in Sheffield is so poor, its all about people slagging other people off and the venues that are brought here. I, myself, have given up on Sheffield and the only decent night is Climax now. Its a shame because I enjoyed a night out in the city, but it the attitude of bar owners, a small minority of people that have made it this way.

Gatecrasher are too busy making money in Nottingham and Leeds. Sheffield wasn't making enough, so had to go.


Yes, so thats why they had just spent 1.1million pounds on a refit!

Don't start rumours when its obvious that you know nothing about the situation, it was an accident why don't you just accept that instead of starting untrue romours?

And remember you should also experience something or somewhere before putting it down. After that, if you don't like it, post your opinion (constructively if that is possible for you), then be silent, for your work here is over.:D

Thats the thing, we have experienced it, 20 years ago.

Anyway, if you want to spend the night amongst the derelict factories, tawdry sex shops and mucky boozers thats you perogative, I prefer to live in the "now", not the rose-tinted past of "what was".

Thats the thing, we have experienced it, 20 years ago.

Anyway, if you want to spend the night amongst the derelict factories, tawdry sex shops and mucky boozers thats you perogative, I prefer to live in the "now", not the rose-tinted past of "what was". have you been down to our club ? if so you would notice it is up to date and different from it has been ever before and for mucky boozers a friend of mine has bought more than half of the bars in attercliffe and spent 100s of thousands on each one when did you last go in one of the bars ? thanks ADAM :)

I dont think slagging people off is the way to get customers adam, even if the comment was directed towards you and where you live and your club, rise above it, as a buisness person you should know that the people or person who you "bitch" about is a potential paying customer with friends who have friends.

that is why the scene in Sheffield is so poor, its all about people slagging other people off and the venues that are brought here. I, myself, have given up on Sheffield and the only decent night is Climax now. Its a shame because I enjoyed a night out in the city, but it the attitude of bar owners, a small minority of people that have made it this way.HI darren theres just 2 people on here who have a bitch at everything and they dont even go out much in sheffield i just have a laugh with them you know me just a joker thanks ADAM :)

if attercliffe is such a good place for a club why havent gatecrasher baught some where out that way and why aint there any other straight clubs out that way?

Personally with a chocie of dempseys, in town, or a club that is just the same as demspesys well out of town, i will choose dempseys.

at least fuel was different, had good range of music an acts an was loud an proud in the middle of town. bring back fuel!how can it be the same as dempseys we are much larger and how come gatecrasher use magna ? and we have 6 different djs ? thanks ADAM :)

HI darren theres just 2 people on here who have a bitch at everything and they dont even go out much in sheffield i just have a laugh with them you know me just a joker thanks ADAM :)

Well, we're having a laugh too, it's not like any of the girly insults actually make us cry.

Well id firstly like to introduce myself. I am Mckenzie and I only came out to everyone in March 2007 and I was disappointed that when i visited fuel, it was like being in a shop! People wore around me like a rash!

I think the way the place was too dark and sempt to not be organised enought, hence why it was usually always dead.

To have a good night out i think you need to appeal to everyone not just camp and easy to get into bed lads.

Anougther problem aswell with fuel; was the door staff.. They seemed to be un-professional at times and a little rude to members.

I think a new place needs to aim to everyone and still keep some of the ideas fuel had, as in the thursday and sunday night cheap drinks where if your skint youl come down :hihi:

And maybe make it look more attractive rather than a dark black room.

Mckenzy

I know people who police our fair city and have been told of stories on many occasions of people being attacked/mugged down there.

just a few weeks ago there was a homophobic attack outside xcess.

and the two people i have spoken to work at FAB.

I have driven through atterlciffe late at night en route to the city centre and have seen many dodgy types out in the early hours.

at the end of the day there is no such thing as a "safe" area anymore, what could happen in attercliffe could also happen in the centre of sheffield or anywhere in sheffield because attercliffe isnt as busy at night as the centre doesn't make it a bad place, if you daft enough to go down the "back roads" then thats you problem stick to the main roads and youll be fine plenty of people passing by all the time inc police.

I have had many friends that have been attacted on way to gay places, one being the way they are dressed.. It doesn't help having Xes in middle of burgreave where most people hate gays.

I know people who police our fair city and have been told of stories on many occasions of people being attacked/mugged down there.

just a few weeks ago there was a homophobic attack outside xcess.

and the two people i have spoken to work at FAB.

I have driven through atterlciffe late at night en route to the city centre and have seen many dodgy types out in the early hours.its just hearsay i work with pubwatch and we havnt had any reports and we work close with the police i think you want to get your facts right before trying to scare people and theres 2 more bars opening close by to fab whos the 2 staff ? ADAM :)

But how many people actually report crimes?

Well id firstly like to introduce myself. I am Mckenzie and I only came out to everyone in March 2007 and I was disappointed that when i visited fuel, it was like being in a shop! People wore around me like a rash!

I think the way the place was too dark and sempt to not be organised enought, hence why it was usually always dead.

To have a good night out i think you need to appeal to everyone not just camp and easy to get into bed lads.

Anougther problem aswell with fuel; was the door staff.. They seemed to be un-professional at times and a little rude to members.

I think a new place needs to aim to everyone and still keep some of the ideas fuel had, as in the thursday and sunday night cheap drinks where if your skint youl come down :hihi:

And maybe make it look more attractive rather than a dark black room.

MckenzyHI mckenzy if check out our website we have drink promtions on 3 nights thursdays sundays and mondays and our bar prices are the same as a bar WWW.FABGAYCLUB.COM thanks ADAM :)

either way ill probably be visiting again on saturday i enjoyed it, (try not to be as ****** this time :) ) would go tonight but climax is on.

Thanks adam (Y) ive just said to my boyfriend.. where/whats club FAB lol ill check it out because i like to go to new places!

Thanks again.

either way ill probably be visiting again on saturday i enjoyed it, (try not to be as ****** this time :) ) would go tonight but climax is on.were having a after party at fab when climax closes until 5 thanks ADAM :)

Nice site adam! i know where it is nah. Ill check it out sometime.

were having a after party at fab when climax closes until 5 thanks ADAM :)


ooo might have to attend or at least "stagger" there :)

It's hearsay and scaremongering. And as someone has already stated, XS is in Burngreave, not Attercliffe. Like Lawson said, there are dodgy types everywhere. Anyway it's not as if we are having a night out on the streets of Attercliffe:hihi:. We are in a club. Yes really.:huh:

Nick you are singing the same tune. That club you went to 20 years ago (pre-dating even me!) is not the same club as the one we are talking about here:loopy:. Diff name, diff owners, diff vibe and a whole lot better!:thumbsup:

Damo just knows 'people' - all made-up fairy tales and nothing substantial to back up your worry-mongering fantasies then? No:loopy:.

Keep up the great work Adam - I need a weekend off, we all got so drunk last Saturday. I blame that Sue and her ability to pull such a swift pint of Grolsch!:hihi:

Nice site adam! i know where it is nah. Ill check it out sometime.OK babes ADAM :)

Rite even though it is e-relevant to the subject lol. Im saying by for now while i go and wash my car :) Tc

It would be unfair of me to name police officers and Adams staff who i speak to as they'd possibly lose their jobs :)

Rite even though it is e-relevant to the subject lol. Im saying by for now while i go and wash my car :) Tc

I think maybe we all need to go wash our cars.:bigsmile:

It would be unfair of me to name police officers and Adams staff who i speak to as they'd possibly lose their jobs :)MY staff wont lose there jobs there all close friends so think your making things up again ADAM:)

Rite even though it is e-relevant to the subject lol. Im saying by for now while i go and wash my car :) Tc can you wash my car wilst your at it lol ADAM :)

Can't say I think too much of Fab.

I have been twice, both on Saturdays and not really enjoyed it, it just lacks something for me. I personally haven't found it as friendly as other venues but thats my personal opinion.

Also as a young guy I am not used to the out of town gay scene and don't really like it.

I don't care what the price of a drink may be (as long as it is within reason for a club), I just don't want to have to go so far and end up dissapointed.

Wish you all the best tho.

This thread has gone way off topic, it's supposed to be about the proposed new gay club Pussycats NOT FAB!

Adam why don't you just advertise on the advertising strip at the top of the Sheffield Forum site, instead of repeatedly plugging your FAB website on this thread.

rich_sheff, I agree really dislike out of town gay scenes too, haven't visited FAB mainly because I have no desire to visit anywhere in Attercliffe.

This thread has gone way off topic, it's supposed to be about the proposed new gay club Pussycats NOT FAB!

Adam why don't you just advertise on the advertising strip at the top of the Sheffield Forum site, instead of repeatedly plugging your FAB website on this thread.

rich_sheff, I agree really dislike out of town gay scenes too, haven't visited FAB mainly because I have no desire to visit anywhere in Attercliffe.if people dont know were we are it the easy just to give them our web site address to check the map out we are not pluging our site we have got plenty of members all ready and we can not allways please the minorty we have gave the scene more choice and theres 2 more bars opening soon in attercliffe so we might get a village again which was very sucesfull before and will be again we are not just getting people from sheffield but from all suronding towns and citys and they love it with the emails we have had on our web site the club is just geting busyier at weekends that tells me something and we are working on phase 2 and its coming on very well thanks ADAM:)

Can't say I think too much of Fab.

I have been twice, both on Saturdays and not really enjoyed it, it just lacks something for me. I personally haven't found it as friendly as other venues but thats my personal opinion.

Also as a young guy I am not used to the out of town gay scene and don't really like it.

I don't care what the price of a drink may be (as long as it is within reason for a club), I just don't want to have to go so far and end up dissapointed.

Wish you all the best tho.what is it you didnt like ? all our staff are frendly and good service if you dont tell us we cant find out what you didnt like so we can change things me and our gary do listen to peoples views we do operate a safe drug free enviorment and work close with the police thanks ADAM :):)

if people dont know were we are it the easy just to give them our web site address to check the map out ADAM:)

If people want to know where FAB is it only takes a few clicks on Google, Yahoo, Facebook..to find out. I’m not having a go, but you posted the website address three times in this thread already and it just seems unnecessary.

Well done for giving the minority a choice down in Attercliffe, hope this village you speak of kicks off. Personally I would always favour a scene in the city centre, proudly sitting amongst all the other bars and clubs.

What does it say about Sheffield if the only gay village it can support is one which is relegated to a run down industrial area of the city?

Mainly because he is just a troll, ignore him and the others as they have nothing else better to do to be honest.


That's advice I'll be taking now, since they are just singing the same old negative song, over and over without even having sampled the product. They are just here to pick their girly fights it seems. Seems to have worked so 'credit' to them if that is what they wish to be recognised for:rolleyes:. But I'm done with them. Cheers Pete.:clap:

I have just spent most of my day in work.. when it is my day off :( youl all get used to me with all the random comments lol

Yes, so thats why they had just spent 1.1million pounds on a refit!

Don't start rumours when its obvious that you know nothing about the situation, it was an accident why don't you just accept that instead of starting untrue romours?

hi there, thanks for your reply.

it just sounds like alot of nonsense to me though - so save it in future honey :loopy:

This thread has gone way off topic, it's supposed to be about the proposed new gay club Pussycats NOT FAB!

Adam why don't you just advertise on the advertising strip at the top of the Sheffield Forum site, instead of repeatedly plugging your FAB website on this thread.

rich_sheff, I agree really dislike out of town gay scenes too, haven't visited FAB mainly because I have no desire to visit anywhere in Attercliffe.


give Fab a try. Then make your judgment.

out of town premises = cheaper rents = better value for money for the customers!

:cool:

ive been on the saturday night in its first week and i enjoyed it! not hard to get to either so cant see what all the moaning is about, yes its in attercliffe so what! Xes is on carlisle street near burngreave people still go there dont they!

at the end of the day you cant please everyone if you dont like it dont go but stop putting all the negative comments, say you little bit and move onto another thread no use repeating yourself over and over again because personally i dont give a sh*t about anyone else long as i enjoy my nights out with my mates and i certainly enjoyed my night in fab (although i did get hammmered) and would recommend it to anyone, its not hard to get to plenty of buses pass there and there is the tram or taxi. on way home there is loads of taxis passing.

keep up the good work is what i say, give the city a bit of variety!

Well thats good for you then that you "personally dont give a "sh*t" about anyone else" getting beaten up in Attercliffe or Carlisle St outside Xes so long as you have a good night ... until of course one night they pick you too ...

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i have been on fri/ sat and on the opening wed night too!!! as said on previous posts.. and the group of us who were there, on each night, had a great time!

monday however, was very unimpressive - surely, as a paying customer, i am allowed an opinion :rant: :suspect: -

richhen, please before you get all dramatic, and accuse me of making sweeping bitchy statements, why don't you get off your high horse, and stop mincing around with your head in the clouds, thinking you are better than everyone else..

you silly, childish, big Mary!



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How very dare you, lol. Oh you make me laugh.

You clearly know me so well , NOT