Did anyone see on the news that one of the Government Inspectors (OFSTED I believe) has said that most Muslim & Islamic Schools in Britain are failing in their duty to educate pupils about other religions and British culture.

I essentially think it comes down to people not willing to integrate, and this is something that really gets my back up. I even hate going on holiday and seeing the sort of British people that head for the nearest 'british pub' for their fix of egg 'n chips.

Originally posted by sanman
I essentially think it comes down to people not willing to integrate, and this is something that really gets my back up. I even hate going on holiday and seeing the sort of British people that head for the nearest 'british pub' for their fix of egg 'n chips.
Yeh, I always wonder about that, given Curries are the most popular British food, and there's an "Indian", "Chinese", Pizza, Kebab place on every corner, why do people insist on eating "Sausage and Chips" abroad ?

:huh:

Just don't geddit !

:shakes:

maybe they've gone for the sun and not the culture.

Maybe they should stop at home and hire a sunbed

And what kind of person wants to spend their time in those awful "English Pubs" that seem to appear anywhere the British congregate in numbers of more than six?

Hell on Earth!

Originally posted by sanman
Did anyone see on the news that one of the Government Inspectors (OFSTED I believe) has said that most Muslim & Islamic Schools in Britain are failing in their duty to educate pupils about other religions and British culture.

I essentially think it comes down to people not willing to integrate, and this is something that really gets my back up. I even hate going on holiday and seeing the sort of British people that head for the nearest 'british pub' for their fix of egg 'n chips.

I note how the serious topic of your post has been glossed over in the guise of humour.

What surprises me is that they are actually opening up to Ofsted Inspectors. I'm surprised they're not exempt on religious grounds ;)

Seriously, they should come under the same law/rules and regulations as all the other schools including denominational schools to provide a balanced view across the curriculum especially with reference to religion.

Well done Mo :clap: this is exactly the sort of response I hoped that someone would make, however in this time of political correctness gone mad we tend to shy away rather than risk being accused as rascist.

Segregation in anyform is not a good thing, if you come to live in this country then I believe you should integrate with its people and cultures. I think its possible to do this without losing your own cultural identity.

Details of this story here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4180845.stm

Note that the comments were also aimed at Jewish and Evangelical Christian schools.

Nomme

cheers for the link Nomme...

I have heard the same complaint about RE in catholic schools.

Moon

Originally posted by sanman
Well done Mo :clap: this is exactly the sort of response I hoped that someone would make, however in this time of political correctness gone mad we tend to shy away rather than risk being accused as rascist.

Segregation in anyform is not a good thing, if you come to live in this country then I believe you should integrate with its people and cultures. I think its possible to do this without losing your own cultural identity.

"Political correctness gone mad"? Surely if you're going to portray yourself as a seeker of truth and justice you should have mentioned that, in the story in question, OFSTED chief David Bell was talking about faith schools as a whole - Muslim, Jewish and evangelical Christian?

Guess the BNP bods will be along soon to fawn over your misrepresentation.

Originally posted by nomme
Note that the comments were also aimed at Jewish and Evangelical Christian schools


so the title of the thread should be Muslim, Jewish and Christian Schools are failing in their duty.

Doesn't have the same ring to it does it?

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good headline eh?

in fact, lets start a thread 'Christian schools are failing in their duty'.

Its just as accurate.

In fact I think that it would be a good idea to abolish religious schools all together. Why not leave it to the religious establishments and or home to provide the spiritual instruction and guidance.

I think religious schools are a bad idea anyway. They aren't open to the free thought of mind and are going to be very biased in their teaching.

On the other note, I hate hate hate those horrible British pubs in Spain etc. I'd rather actually go to Blackpool than Costa Blackpool. Surely you go away to see the world?!

To Sham71 & Greenback, that was an honest mistake on my part. On the news story that I heard it did not mention Jewish or Christian schools, neither did it ask them for a reaction although it did from a Muslim school.

I totally agree with Mo & Lboogie that single faith schools should be abolished.

Also please note the opening paragraph of the story:

"Independent Muslim schools must make greater efforts to show pupils a British "common heritage", says the education watchdog for England"

I think this proves I can be excused my slip.

Will change the title to Faith Schools ... to avoid any claims of racism.

I'm against faith schools really, that should be taught at home and in the place of worship. Isn't it a bit daft to say that these schools are failing by not teaching other religions? Isn't it a bit like saying that a football academy is failing by not teaching enough rugby?!?

Snook I think the point is that the National Cirriculum says that there should be some teaching of the major faiths in this country.

I wait to be corrected.

Originally posted by sanman
Snook I think the point is that the National Cirriculum says that there should be some teaching of the major faiths in this country.

I wait to be corrected.

Well, I wasn't being that serious, but I think more education of the major faiths is a good idea. When I was at school we learnt hardly anything about other faiths

I'm not sure that faith schools are bound by the national curriculum I was certainly reading something to that effect about the Vardy foundation acadamies, perhaps someone more in the know (like at all!) can correct me here?