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Snook
16-01-2005, 13:45
Hmm... OK, this thread has come about after reading several things. One was the love at first sight thread, another was the weather presenter thread in which someone is in love with a news presenter... these things got me to thinking about an actress infatuation incident that happened to me recently. I was watching a film, and go so involved that I started to become rather infatuated with the actress... or maybe the character, not sure...

Anyway, with these things in mind, I then read a story about the Counting Crows lead singer Adam Duritz and how he wrote the song 'Mrs Potters Lullaby' about the actress Monica Potter...

"I came up with the chorus music and the first chorus. And then I stopped and said to myself, "How can I write a whole song about someone I don't even know? It's not gonna go anywhere, it's a total dead end. It's automatically trite and false." But I was enthralled with it. I wondered what else I could do."

I felt that this was rather sweet, until I read on and discovered that he was then introduced to her after she heard about the song and then they started dating... which was pretty sickening, as I don't have the talent to write a song, and I'm not famous either, so even if I did she would never hear it.

So... does anyone else suffer/has suffered this strange problem, or did they grow out of it after there teen years? I'm not talking about being a fan of someone, having posters on your wall, etc... rather an infatuation of someone that you haven't met, be it an actress, actor, or news presenter, or even the girl in the local chip shop.

JoeP
16-01-2005, 13:55
I think having that sort of infatuation about something you've never had dealings with is what usually leds to restraining orders....:)

I will often express an admiration for someone, but it's very much in the same way that I admire ceiling of the Cistine Chapel as a work of art - very beautiful but impractical to have in my life. :)

To admire something of beauty isn't problematic; to obsess on possessing it is.

Joe

Snook
16-01-2005, 14:02
Originally posted by JoePritchard
I think having that sort of infatuation about something you've never had dealings with is what usually leds to restraining orders....:)

I will often express an admiration for someone, but it's very much in the same way that I admire ceiling of the Cistine Chapel as a work of art - very beautiful but impractical to have in my life. :)

To admire something of beauty isn't problematic; to obsess on possessing it is.

Joe

Yeah, agree with that. I think that to obsess over something or someone is just asking for trouble, and probably indicates that something is missing in your life.

What I'm referring to isn't that kind of obsession, not having to read everything about them and wacth everything they're in... Just seeing something in someone... you might never watch them again, or read about them, but just some sort of strange connection and involvement at that time of watching... The kind of thing that would inspire you to write a song... hmm... I'll see what my therapist says. :loopy:

saxon51
16-01-2005, 14:05
I know how you feel Snook, I feel tne same way about the Ferrari F60.

http://janico.no.sapo.pt/Tuning/Ferrari%20F60%20Prototipo.jpg


Unhealthy, but not illegal:heyhey:

xafier
16-01-2005, 14:09
whoa I like that F60 prototype :D looks like F50 meets an F1 car... mmm tasty... F50 is among my fav cars... the Ferrari 456 is my fav family type car.... mmmm Ferrari...

saxon51
16-01-2005, 14:15
Whoa xafier!!!!! You get your eyes off me F60. She's mine I tell ya,.....all mine!!:suspect:

DaBouncer
16-01-2005, 14:29
If Drew Barrymore decides to read this thread - feel free to PM me :thumbsup: :lol:

WallBuilder
16-01-2005, 16:14
This is something I've never understood, how can some-one be infatuated with, have a connection to, love some-one that they have never met and in all liklihood are never going to meet. I like Jamie Lee Curtis but this is based on films and the odd interview I've seen if I met her in real life I might not like her at all. I'd prefer to get a connection to the girl in the local shop or some-one where it might actually lead to something.

Sierra
16-01-2005, 16:50
Living in California, I've seen my share of celebs. And sometimes...they're not as nice as they seem on TV or in the movies.

And sometimes, they don't look like they do on TV or in the movies.

My one exception to this, is the time I ran (literally) into Jeff Bridges while skiing.

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/jeff_bridges_biog.html

He was friendly and gracious. Inquiring if I was ok, even though I had knocked the poor guy down, and the collision was entirely my fault!

He's also quite tall, and I thought better looking in person. :love:

My husband is also a Jamie Lee Curtis fan. A couple of years ago, we saw her and her daughter in a juice bar in Los Angeles. While she didn't look bad, she did look her age. She was nice to the people who recognized her, and asked for autographs, or wanted to talk, telling her how much they liked her films, etc. (my husband was too shy to approach her, despite prodding from me. lol)

I could see how that might be annoying, but she handled it very well, and her daughter seemed used to it. It would be scary, though. To have someone you don't know obsessed with you.

Wallbuilder, sounds like you're more firmly rooted in reality than some people!

:) Sierra

straylight_r
16-01-2005, 17:46
Well I'm still hoping I might meet johnny depp someday! I don't obsess... well I've got a calender and have seen most of his films but that's not too bad is it??? Hehe

Snook
16-01-2005, 21:45
Originally posted by WallBuilder
This is something I've never understood, how can some-one be infatuated with, have a connection to, love some-one that they have never met and in all liklihood are never going to meet. I like Jamie Lee Curtis but this is based on films and the odd interview I've seen if I met her in real life I might not like her at all. I'd prefer to get a connection to the girl in the local shop or some-one where it might actually lead to something.

Yeah, I'm sort of split on this thing. When I was younger I never understood the obsession with bands and such, and I've never understood how people can become obsessed with people they don't know.

However, I recently watched a film and was extremely attracted to an actress, to the point of infatuation, and began to rethink the whole thing, and it seems that I am far from alone... I was wondering if this is a part of normal human nature. That is why I began this thread... just a lighthearted thing. :)

Moon Maiden
17-01-2005, 08:28
I used to have a thing for a certain boy band when I was younger and it got stupid...after that I don't think I have ever had an infatuation to that extent.

However things are verging on the ridiculous at the moment with Gerard Butler...mmmmmm out of ten I would give him one :hihi: :heyhey: Whether or not he would return the sentiment is an entirely different matter :confused:

Moon

Sam Miguel
17-01-2005, 11:03
Obsession is counter-productive. OK, I fancied Agnetha and Debbie in the seventies and eighties, but it wasn't obsessive.

Oh, and Belinda Carlisle has just come on the radio. She was very nice too.

Lickszz
20-01-2005, 00:33
Originally posted by Snook
Hmm... OK, this thread has come about after reading several things. One was the love at first sight thread, another was the weather presenter thread in which someone is in love with a news presenter... these things got me to thinking about an actress infatuation incident that happened to me recently. I was watching a film, and go so involved that I started to become rather infatuated with the actress... or maybe the character, not sure...

Anyway, with these things in mind, I then read a story about the Counting Crows lead singer Adam Duritz and how he wrote the song 'Mrs Potters Lullaby' about the actress Monica Potter...

"I came up with the chorus music and the first chorus. And then I stopped and said to myself, "How can I write a whole song about someone I don't even know? It's not gonna go anywhere, it's a total dead end. It's automatically trite and false." But I was enthralled with it. I wondered what else I could do."

[B]Snipped

It's the beauty of been able to make bio-graphical writing work extremely well. It's a rare talent IMO.

On one occasion I really wanted to ask Adam about Mrs Potters but I knew it would be a waste of time because he would have been as coy as ever.

Snook
20-01-2005, 00:39
Originally posted by Lickszz
It's the beauty of been able to make bio-graphical writing work extremely well. It's a rare talent IMO.

On one occasion I really wanted to ask Adam about Mrs Potters but I knew it would be a waste of time because he would have been as coy as ever.

Yeah, it's true, and I don't think he has ever said who it is himself. Unfortunately for him it wasn't hard for people to put two and two together.

It's a bit like the song 'barely out of Tuesday' that I'm sure you know (one of my favorite songs) that Adam won't release because he hates the ex-girlfriend that he wrote it with and never wonts to see her name on one of his records. I don't think he ever divulged who the woman was, but unfortunately David Gibbs released the song and the writing credits were Duritz and Cox... at the time he was dating Courtney Cox. Mystery over.

Lickszz
20-01-2005, 00:50
Adam stated not so long ago that he really likes BOOT and did perform it has recently has 2003. Courtney Cox is also believed to be Monkey and with the amount of times Monkey and trees are referred to in even the latest material it's obvious that he still dislikes her quite a bit.

Snook
20-01-2005, 00:56
Originally posted by Lickszz
Adam stated not so long ago that he really likes BOOT and did perform it has recently has 2003. Courtney Cox is also believed to be Monkey and with the amount of times Monkey and trees are referred to in even the latest material it's obvious that he still dislikes her quite a bit.

Ahh, Like in Holiday in Spain... "Cause she liked to scream at me - Man, it's a miracle that she's not living up in a tree"
I have to say Hey Monkey is one of my favourite songs too, so I have obviously gained alot from his failed relationship with the Friends star. :) (I love the video to Long December too with her in)

Lickszz
20-01-2005, 01:37
Yep, it's a shame that his best writing seems to come from his unhappiness.

An often overlooked track is Ghost Train. Many aren't keen on it, but I really like how lyrics are written and the meaning behind the song. Couped with the fact that Adam at a gig looked at me, smiled and said "How do you do" at the start of the song. It's seldom on the setlist though.

Snook
20-01-2005, 01:41
Ok, maybe you could rename this thread "I was having my usual actress problem/infatuation kind of thing" + Counting Crows chat. But hey, It's my topic, so I'll go off it.

I've never been a massive fan of Ghost Train, but I enjoyed it more once I knew more about its meanings. And, as I've just posted in the saddest song thread, once I heard the story behind Anna Begins (Holiday romance, having to leave someone you have fallen hopelessly in love with) it meant so much more to me.

BoroughGal
20-01-2005, 01:53
Sorry if I'm going back onto topic, but I totally know what you mean. I'm not really an infatuation type person, but a few years ago (but not THAT long ago), I became infactuated with Benicio Del Toro after watching Snatch (he was "Frankie Four Fingers"). I saw the film about 4 times at the pictures, then bought a DVD player so I could own it 3 months before it came out on video. Then I went on to buy everything he'd ever been in. Yak! It's making me cringe to remember...

Anyway, the final thing was, I'd heard that Paula Yates had kept a picture of Michael Hutchens on her fridge for years - well look at them, they got together! So I figured if I plastered my fridge with pictures of him, a little Paula magic might rub off.... But, in hindsight, look what happened to them, it's perhaps a good job we never DID meet...!

Needless to say, my mates took the p**s, I was a total laughing stock, and I eventually got real. But I still think he's gorgeous. Infatuations aint healthy though.

Sierra
20-01-2005, 03:28
Don't feel bad BouroughGal,


I was devastated (some years ago) when I heard that Eddie Van Halen got married. My sister's boyfriend at the time told me, "why are you upset? Your chances of running off to Tahiti with him are just as good!"

I was even more devastated to realize he was right. lol

Over the years Mr. Van Halen's not taken care of his health, and drugs, smoking, and alcohol have all taken their toll. He recently had a bout with cancer. Not to mention his wife had her hands full with his infidelity and general bad behavior.

Frankly, I don't envy her, and I'm happy I married the man that I did.

In my case, it worked out for the best. (But shhhhh. I still play his music!)


:) Sierra

BoroughGal
20-01-2005, 04:53
Ah well thank you for understanding, I thought I was MAD!

Snook
02-05-2007, 23:12
Ah well thank you for understanding, I thought I was MAD!

Like one thing has anything to do with the other. :)

swan
06-05-2007, 16:49
Hmm... OK, this thread has come about after reading several things. One was the love at first sight thread, another was the weather presenter thread in which someone is in love with a news presenter... these things got me to thinking about an actress infatuation incident that happened to me recently. I was watching a film, and go so involved that I started to become rather infatuated with the actress... or maybe the character, not sure...

Anyway, with these things in mind, I then read a story about the Counting Crows lead singer Adam Duritz and how he wrote the song 'Mrs Potters Lullaby' about the actress Monica Potter...

"I came up with the chorus music and the first chorus. And then I stopped and said to myself, "How can I write a whole song about someone I don't even know? It's not gonna go anywhere, it's a total dead end. It's automatically trite and false." But I was enthralled with it. I wondered what else I could do."

I felt that this was rather sweet, until I read on and discovered that he was then introduced to her after she heard about the song and then they started dating... which was pretty sickening, as I don't have the talent to write a song, and I'm not famous either, so even if I did she would never hear it.

So... does anyone else suffer/has suffered this strange problem, or did they grow out of it after there teen years? I'm not talking about being a fan of someone, having posters on your wall, etc... rather an infatuation of someone that you haven't met, be it an actress, actor, or news presenter, or even the girl in the local chip shop.

So who was this actress/character you were fascinated with?

Snook
06-05-2007, 16:53
So who was this actress/character you were fascinated with?

No comment

babychickens
06-05-2007, 17:02
hnnnnnnnn michael biehn hnnnnnnnnnnn

actually, i grew out of that one by the age of 20. orlando bloom sort of became a replacement for a while (i was soooo waspy the morning i came into work, and discovered the note on my desk saying "we came to find you to go to the pub but you'd already left". talking to the guy that left the note later that morning it transpired they'd spent the evening in teh pub chatting to this guy who turned out to be orlando 'better in a wig' bloom. RRRRRAAAARRRRRRR!). anyway.

Bago
06-05-2007, 21:10
I haven't really decided whether it's too far-fetched and more fantasy, or whether it's really a conviction of someone's true passion for someone else.
Katie Holmes did also marry Tom Cruise eventually. Apparently, she also did have a big crush on him too. As did Posh and Becks? Then again, if we think about it, celebrities actually work in the same industry, and possibly social circles. So to fancy someone, and actually be dating them may not be *that* far-fetched an idea at all.

It's like asking, what is the difference between a stalker, and a fan ?

Diddles
23-05-2007, 20:11
Does it ever work the opposite way, where you see someone, don't know them from Adam, they could be the nicest person in the world, but you take an instant dislike to them. That happened to me with a man who lived down the road. Can't tell you why, but I just don't like the man.

mikey10
23-05-2007, 21:51
when i was young i loved edwina currie, i even wrote to her. this post will self destruct in 5 mins.

koenigsinger
23-05-2007, 22:02
I think generally, these celebrity infatuations are 'safe', you are allowed to fantasise and be a little crazy, because realistically, your paths are highly unlikely to ever converge. Some people go to extremes though, and obsess so much about a 'star' that they neglect the real people around them, who may just turn out to be their best plan for a happy life :D

SUPERTYKE
24-05-2007, 15:32
I became infatuated with a bar maid - she used to sometimes wear a woolen polo neck that outlined her nipples perfectly - she was stunning, intelligent and warm - I was crazy for her. I tried to tell her loads of times but -?

Problems arose when I began necking drinks quickly and offering to fetch (not pay for)! the next round so that I could get to the bar again to see her!

I even would tell other bar staff that I was being served to get rid of them and wait for as long as necessary for her to get to me!!
I was about 19 at the time, she was 30ish - the gulf seemed immeasurable - I would delude myself that she deliberately touched fingers as she gave me change or that her eyes lingered just a fraction longer with mine, and in fact loads of imaginary signals kept me transfixed! - Was I a budding stalker!!? Aaargh!!
She was suddenly gone without warning or goodbyes, no one knew why or where she'd gone. But another barmaid told me that she had been aware of my 'interest' all along. (Looking back, it's not surprising, drooling in the peanuts was never going to endear me to her!)
It can't be helped, if you're smitten - you're smitten, only thing that can cure it is getting off with them and discovering what an absolute tw*t they are :hihi:

Snook
30-11-2007, 22:45
I think generally, these celebrity infatuations are 'safe', you are allowed to fantasise and be a little crazy, because realistically, your paths are highly unlikely to ever converge.

You say that, but I saw Angelina Jolie at Spar the other near. So near, yet so Spar, eh?