View Full Version : Harry to Auschwitz ?


poppins
14-01-2005, 13:38
Parice Charles is making Harry visit Auschwitz,
is this true or just another media thing ? will it do any good anyhow ?

Strix
14-01-2005, 13:39
It should make him realise how bleadin' stoopid he was if nothing else.

igm1
14-01-2005, 13:41
If it's in the sun newspaper then it's probably rubbish

poppins
14-01-2005, 13:43
Originally posted by IanMitchell
If it's in the sun newspaper then it's probably rubbish

No, CNN i hear.

foo_fighter
14-01-2005, 13:45
Originally posted by IanMitchell
If it's in the sun newspaper then it's probably rubbish
I heard on the media Charlie had told him to watch "Schindlers List".

There we go again, all history "as written" by Mr Speilberg.

Could'nt he just read a book on the subject, and more to the point, at 20, after an Eton education, hasn't he read up on the subject already ?

royjames
14-01-2005, 14:31
We ought to give the prince a break he is a toung man and we ought to cut him some slack.
Remember it WAS a FANCY dress party so why the fuss??:D

Rich
14-01-2005, 14:32
Originally posted by foo_fighter
I heard on the media Charlie had told him to watch "Schindlers List".

There we go again, all history "as written" by Mr Speilberg.

Could'nt he just read a book on the subject, and more to the point, at 20, after an Eton education, hasn't he read up on the subject already ?

Obviously not, then the dozy muppet wouldn't have done what he did.

Although I do feel the media has blown it all out of proportion and needs to STFU about it, granted it's a Royal boo boo but it doesn't need to be front page news 2 days running IMO.

Strix
14-01-2005, 14:33
Originally posted by IanMitchell
If it's in the sun newspaper then it's probably rubbish
Originally posted by poppins
No, CNN i hear. Ditto

carcrash
14-01-2005, 14:55
Ah The Sheffield organiser of the bnp defends prince in nazi storm

jonsastar
14-01-2005, 15:02
Whats the big deal, Harry is just a kid rebbeling against his peers he will calm down eventually but theres more to come before he calms down.

I would like to visit aushwitz my self, the program on bbc 2 the other day was intriguing.

Pauly
14-01-2005, 15:08
Was a very silly thing to do indeed but I preferred to think of these things before I judge:

1. He's still young.

2. He can be a bit of a black-sheep anyway and seems keen to rebel every now and again like alot of young men his age, especially with scrotes from the media tailing him here there and everywhere.

3. It WAS only a fancy dress party and if it was anyone else it wouldn't have mattered.

4. The media have more than likely blown everything way out of proportion like they always do with royal blunders like this.

5. His grandfather is Prince Phillip. The King of Cock-ups

:roll:

depoix
14-01-2005, 15:47
havent heard much from the gypsies,homosexuals,mentaly disabled,genetic defected groups,you would think they would have something to say bieng as they were involved in the holocaust, or is it that the jews believe they were the only ones there? they have been earning a living by dying for the last sixty years,what happened should never happen again,but to raise this much fuss because some one attends a party dressed as a german soldier is taking things too far.

what if he had turned up as a rabbi? would the palastinians have kicked up such a fuss ? dont think so.

some people will scream racism at the drop of a hat and the media know it,if its some one in the public eye it sells papers.thats what this is really about,media hype

jimmy75
14-01-2005, 15:53
agree with depoix so what harry gone to a party dress in german uniform does it need to be front page news 2 days on run and on every news channel big fuss over nowt if you ask me

jonsastar
14-01-2005, 15:56
I could understand the fuss if he had turned up in an Osamma bin laden out fit.

He is part German after all, Harry not bin laden

miniminch
14-01-2005, 19:12
You go into a fancy dress shop you see a nazi uniform - I'm sorry but you just have to have it. Their policies may have been misguided but their dress sense was stunning. A fashion triumph.

And just coz you wear the clothes it does not (I repeat does not!!) make you a Nazi. Has no one ever heard of irony - Freddie Starr built an entire career on dressing like a Nazi. When you go to a fancy dress party dressed as a viking it doent mean you support raping and pillaging of the peasent populace! Or may be it does?

You may say " ah well, the nazis murdered six million humans" and they did - some of them. But not all of them. It was people that killed those people - ordinary people like you and me who went home with the smell of burning flesh of their clothes. We feel that we can distance ourselves from it by labeling all the killers and seeing them as symbols and rhetoric-

In that case we should be ashamed to be british and ashamed to be American for all the millions of innocents that died at our hands.

What I'm saying is, so what, he went in the uniform! So what he was drinking and smoking a fag! Doesnt that make him more like us and less like those inbreeds he comes from.

Lets not pretend clothes and colours are the very symbol of mans inhumanity to man.

It is our legacy. We are a herd animal. It is in all of us.

foo_fighter
14-01-2005, 19:24
Originally posted by miniminch
Freddie Starr build an entire career on dressing like a Nazi.
Exactly !

and just look at his politics.

depoix
14-01-2005, 20:00
exellent responce, and i think, there endeth the lesson.
we have been manipulated again by the media but once again common sense rules,

its as if we are expected to be lemmings or sheep, some guy in fleet street or wher ever has a pint with his mate and bets him £ 50 he can make the headlines with a story in his paper, the royals or members of parliament are always likley targets, get a photo, use just enough hype and watch it spread,ring a few mates up in the media to bull it up a bit more and you,ve got a scandal.

those old enough to remember the profumo affair will understand what imean,those that dont ,do a google, it brought down the government of the day.

then again there was cynthia payne,sex for luncheon vouchers, again,caused a ruckas.

lady di,s dad visits massage parlour,another scandal, the list goes on and on.

archer,charles and camilla,maggie thatcher,dennis is an alcho etc,its not news its media hype to sell papers.

instead of taking things at first sight we should sit back awhile and see the responce,thats what editors do,if it looks like its a go,er carry it on and milk joe public for as long as he/she is willing to pay for a news paper.

a few years back the papers jumped on the band wagon with paedophile killers, then it was imigration,then bush election fiddling,the iraqui war,when it runs a bit low pick on a celeb,until some thing else turns up, its been going on for years and im sorry to say this but the media know that the average joe bloggs will read it/have an opinion about it, or want to vote on it, but next week it will all be yesterdays news, have you noticed the coverage of the iraqui war has died down? the tsumani, wearing out a bit now,the vultures are gathering.....what,s next monday,s headline? watch this space.........

Don_Kiddick
14-01-2005, 20:33
I agree with Miniminch on this one.

And depoix, you're right - tomorrows chips will be wrapped in this drivvel & they'll be scandalising someone else :thumbsup:

I (hand on heart) have never bought a tabloid newspaper since the Hillsboro' Disaster when they all saw fit to publish 'those pictuers'.
Tabloid Journalists are scum - Spitting Image had it right when it portrayed them as PIGS in suits.

Harry has obviously inherrited Phillip's gene pool for gaffs & thank God he has. It's the most entertainment worthy of seeing the news headlines.

Getting drunk & puking in the street
Brawling with a photographer
now this...

Never mind King - can he Prime Minister next please???

p.s I'm not a Royalist & would like to see them living on the Manor & working for a living :heyhey:

jwbeatsonbnp
14-01-2005, 21:11
:partyhat: good job prince harry didn't go to the party dressed as a B.N.P. supporter or he would be arrested by the special branch taken to some west yorkshire court house and charged with a trumpt up offence and had his computer confiscated

the media :evil: :confused:

miniminch
14-01-2005, 21:28
Originally posted by jwbeatsonbnp
:partyhat: good job prince harry didn't go to the party dressed as a B.N.P. supporter or he would be arrested by the special branch taken to some west yorkshire court house and charged with a trumpt up offence and had his computer confiscated

the media :evil: :confused:

Out of curiosity - explain your user name

its just that your homepage is a bit scary - but everyone is entitled to their opinions even if you are grossly wrong - Is that a picture of you leaving britain in disgust!! I hope when you got where you going they were more welcoming than you.

mat1978
14-01-2005, 21:42
I honestly dont understand what the big deal is. He went dressed as a Nazi Officer - So What?????

Perhaps it was a bit daft but not really newsworthy is it? And deffinatley not worth further debate..........

alchresearch
14-01-2005, 22:37
Originally posted by mat1978
I honestly dont understand what the big deal is. He went dressed as a Nazi Officer - So What?????

Perhaps it was a bit daft but not really newsworthy is it? And deffinatley not worth further debate..........

Slow news week. They've run out of things to say about the Tsunami and can't remember how they filled up news programmes before Christmas.

Meanwhile the devastation of Carlisle and Cumbria continues unreported. Very sad to hear about a huge chunk of forest which was completely destroyed by the hurricane strength winds, but unless you watched the Cumbria local news you wouldn't have heard about it.

Phanerothyme
15-01-2005, 11:22
Originally posted by jwbeatsonbnp
:partyhat: good job prince harry didn't go to the party dressed as a B.N.P. supporter

How do BNP supporters dress? Nice lace trimmed negligees and waders? Or simple stocking over the head and sock around the privates? Either look is good, and won't land you in jail as you describe. At least it makes them easier to spot. :D

BoroughGal
15-01-2005, 13:51
I'm going to get deep now, you ready...?

I'm not really bothered one way or the other how Prince Harry dresses, but I do think we need to put a bit more importance onto how the older generation feel. The war is ancient history to the majority of us, but the kids of 17 etc that fought for our freedom kinda deserve a bit of respect. A lot of them were only bairns and it would have been pretty crappy to now be living under German rule.

So I suppose the whole Nazi thing means a lot more to the survivors and their families than to the majority of us??

Chicago
16-01-2005, 03:26
I visited Auschwitz in the late 80's and I must say that it was a very sobering experience. Harry, like the rest of the royals must represent Britain wherever he goes. From what I understand, that is the deal. If he doesn’t like it, he can renounce his title and open up a chippy at Lane Top!

rubydazzler
16-01-2005, 08:14
"lady di,s dad visits massage parlour,another scandal, the list goes on and on"

don't want to be pedantic here lol but i think it was actually sarah ferguson's dad that did that ... (feels sad that she actually remembers that particular furore - being totally NOT interested in other people's private goings-on and that includes whether or not harry windsor went to a fancy dress party and what he was wearing too)

not sure whether i agree with the comments made about the gentlemen of the press ... would anyone other than the attendees have ever known about this particular faux-pas if not for them is true??? but we certainly wouldn't have known a lot of very much more important things about current affairs if not for them ...

agree with the comments about the sense of style though ... for a certain type of mind lol - whenever i see the maggies strutting about the street - i think nazi storm trooper! they behave like em too ... bullying the smaller weaker birds ...

espadrille
16-01-2005, 17:09
I think it is quite sad that Prince Charles is too busy with CPB to contemplate spending quality time with his son.
Surely, bad parenting can be attributed to part of Harrys rogueish behaviour, but it is either a lack of understanding and sensitivity to peoples feelings and the suffering that was caused by the nazis that meant he didnt stop to think what he was doing.
His elder and more intelligent (and hopefully wiser) brother was with him and one would think that he may have had an insight as to what the reaction may be if the press got a hold of a picture of this.

I can completely understand that Harry hates the papparazzi after what happened to his Mum.After all , she may still be here now if it wasnt for their intrusion.
People are very complicated and do the strangest things.He certainly needs guidance and attention from either his Father or grandparents..Not sure if any of them can provide that though..I try not to believe most of what I read in the papers. After all, it is really only there to sell the story..Surely there are other very important issues , like the boy who was found alive after surviving 3 weeks on puddle water and dried noodles after the Tsunami.
At least there is one happy story that has come from all of that horror