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bornandbred
13-07-2004, 16:48
Does anyone know which is the highest place in Sheffield. We're debating whether it's Lodge Moor or Sky Edge but can't find any confirmation

Lestat
13-07-2004, 17:00
I thought it would be the area just behind the ski village, the Shirecliffe college (Parkwood) football pitch. You can see most of Sheff from up there.

Fingers
13-07-2004, 17:12
Whilst I can't tell you exactly where the highest place in Sheffield is according to the following webpage the highest points in Sheffield "are on the moors to the west of the city where the land is above 500m".

http://www.map21ltd.com/COSTC11/arb-sheff.htm

The following webpage (which contains large pictures) puts the height of Sheffield's highest point at 546m above sea level.

http://www.map21ltd.com/COSTC11/Sheffield/sh-landscape.htm

Greybeard
13-07-2004, 17:13
Is Stanedge Pole in Sheffield ? - that's about 440 metres. Top of the hill up the road from us is 395 metres and we look down on Lodge Moor. Ughill and Burbage moors are both 400 metres plus

Don't think Sky Edge is very high - just looks that way from the bottom !

Greybeard
13-07-2004, 17:46
Originally posted by Fingers
Whilst I can't tell you exactly where the highest place in Sheffield is according to the following webpage the highest points in Sheffield "are on the moors to the west of the city where the land is above 500m".



The Horse Stone on Howden Moors ?....526 metres.

Tony
13-07-2004, 18:05
In terms of houses, it's Ringinglow village, which is just a little higher that Lodge Moor on Barncliffe Crescent at 290m above sea level. To give you an idea of the height, the Town Hall is at 75m.

Fingers
13-07-2004, 18:16
I've just dug out a tourist map of the Peak District and surrounding areas and I've found five hilltops which seem to be in the Sheffield area which are more than 500m above sea level. As Greybeard pointed out there is Horse Stone on Howden Moors which is 526m. There is Black Tor on Derwent Moors which is 536m. However, between those two are three higher hilltops: Outer Edge (which is 541m and is nearest to Horse Stone), Featherbed Moss (which is 545m and is nearest Black Tor) and Margery Hill (which is 546m and is between Outer Edge and Featherbed Moss).

extaxman
13-07-2004, 19:05
The highest place in the Sheffield boundary is Brown Knoll somewhere around Stanage Edge.

The highest place in inhabited Sheffield is at Herdings near to where the 13 storey flats are on the Gleadless Valley estate.

Tony
13-07-2004, 19:13
Originally posted by extaxman
The highest place in inhabited Sheffield is at Herdings near to where the 13 storey flats are on the Gleadless Valley estate. Nahhh... that only gets up to 220m

Greybeard
13-07-2004, 19:49
Fingers

There are two higher points in that area....Barrow Stones 591m and Bleaklow Stones 628m, - but both outside the Sheffield boundary.

Weird how the boundary makes that detour to include Howden Moors.

Fingers
13-07-2004, 20:20
Greybeard, thank you for the info on some even higher points in the area. The map I have found is fairly detailed but covers a very large area and shows county boundaries rather than district boundaries. I have got a South Yorkshire street atlas somewhere and I think that shows district boundaries but I can't find it and I'm not sure it shows heights above sea level. Presumably OS maps are the best ones to use to find the answers to these types of questions.

Greybeard
13-07-2004, 21:25
Originally posted by Tony
In terms of houses, it's Ringinglow village, which is just a little higher that Lodge Moor on Barncliffe Crescent at 290m above sea level. To give you an idea of the height, the Town Hall is at 75m.

In our neck of the woods there are quite a few of us living above 300m. One elevated household seems to be sitting on the 380m contour, according to my map.

Not everyone's idea of the 'high life'..at times it reminds me of the Falklands :roll:

Fudbeer
13-07-2004, 21:31
oh no its another steepest hill type thread :)

Snook
13-07-2004, 21:33
I was always told (probably incorrectly) that it was the top of the water tower at Norton, and they used to look for fires from there during the Blitz.

Rubber_soul
13-07-2004, 21:35
Originally posted by bornandbred
Does anyone know which is the highest place in Sheffield. We're debating whether it's Lodge Moor or Sky Edge but can't find any confirmation

Although Sky Edge maybe not the highest point in Sheffield, it certainly offers some of the best views, i'm talking 360 degrees it's very impressive.

Greybeard
13-07-2004, 21:37
Originally posted by Fudbeer
oh no its another steepest hill type thread :)

A little light relief from race, religion and politics ;)

Tony
13-07-2004, 21:50
Originally posted by Greybeard
In our neck of the woods there are quite a few of us living above 300m. One elevated household seems to be sitting on the 380m contour, according to my map.

Not everyone's idea of the 'high life'..at times it reminds me of the Falklands :roll: I can't disagree there - there will be the odd pockets. I was talking about built up areas really. :)

I suspect that the highest dwelling within the Sheffield boundry is probably Redmires Lodge. Can you check the OS?

Plain Talker
13-07-2004, 23:06
Originally posted by Snook
I was always told (probably incorrectly) that it was the top of the water tower at Norton, and they used to look for fires from there during the Blitz.

Yeah, snook, i am afraid that you were misinformed.

The water tower only dates from 1961 (there's a date stone ober one of the doors)

It was built because the hill is so high and there was not sufficient water pressure to serve the surrounding housing adequately.

the views are excellent from the top of teh water tower. Legend has it, on a clear day, you can see as far as the tower at cleethorpes... (I don't know... I would say definitely that you could probably see as far as Chesterfield's crooked spire!)

PT (grew up in the shadow of the water tower till 1974)

Jayne
14-07-2004, 08:59
Had a quick look at the OS map from Streetmap - Rud Hill to the North West of Ringinglow - just in Sheffield I would have thought gets to 425. I think Ringinglow itself is about 330 but I'm not sure whether they're 10m gap contours or 5m or anything else. Somewhere in Lodge Moor says 292m

That's about all I have time to look at. For that side of the city at least it looks like Ringinglow.

RoyalRegular
14-07-2004, 10:13
I was always told that Edgemount above Bradfield was the highest point in South Yorks. There's a university sattelite tracking station up there and you certainly can't see much higher than you when you're up there.

anthonyc
14-07-2004, 14:57
Originally posted by Fingers
I've just dug out a tourist map of the Peak District and surrounding areas and I've found five hilltops which seem to be in the Sheffield area which are more than 500m above sea level. As Greybeard pointed out there is Horse Stone on Howden Moors which is 526m. There is Black Tor on Derwent Moors which is 536m. However, between those two are three higher hilltops: Outer Edge (which is 541m and is nearest to Horse Stone), Featherbed Moss (which is 545m and is nearest Black Tor) and Margery Hill (which is 546m and is between Outer Edge and Featherbed Moss).

I'm pretty confident that the highest point within the sheffield boundaries is 548m and is approximately 1300m south of Margery Hill. At SK1882694366

This is from digital boundary data and digital elevation data to give one or two places to check on 1:25000 and 1:10000 OS maps. (incidentallly, the 548m spot height is marked at 1:25000 but not at 1:10000 or 1:50000)

And yes, I am somewhat bored.

ant.

dylan_61
14-07-2004, 15:36
Floor R, Royal Hallamshire Hospital.

Greybeard
14-07-2004, 18:23
Tony

Can't see Redmires Lodge on the map. Stanedge Lodge just above Redmires is on the 420m contour, Fairthorne Lodge about 360. Is Redmires Lodge above or below the dams ?

Greybeard
14-07-2004, 18:28
Originally posted by RoyalRegular
I was always told that Edgemount above Bradfield was the highest point in South Yorks. There's a university sattelite tracking station up there and you certainly can't see much higher than you when you're up there.


Depends where the boundary was when you were told :)

The university satellite tracking station is on one of my local round walks with the dog, - it's been abandoned for several years now. The nearby trig point is 395m, Edge Mount approx 380m.

Tony
14-07-2004, 19:43
Originally posted by Greybeard
Tony

Can't see Redmires Lodge on the map. Stanedge Lodge just above Redmires is on the 420m contour, Fairthorne Lodge about 360. Is Redmires Lodge above or below the dams ?

Whoops (egg on face) you got it right :)

Herbert
14-07-2004, 19:59
Originally posted by Tony
In terms of houses, it's Ringinglow village, which is just a little higher that Lodge Moor on Barncliffe Crescent at 290m above sea level. To give you an idea of the height, the Town Hall is at 75m.

I understood the house on Hallam Grange Rise that was struck by lightning a couple of years ago was the highest house in main built up Sheff. This road is higher than Barncliffe and sgnificantly above the snow line!:D

Fougasse
26-09-2007, 11:29
Does anyone know the answer to this? It's causing a lot of heat between me and the OH.

I say it's Grenoside and she says it's Lodge Moor.

Does anyone know?

Blackbeard
26-09-2007, 11:41
Edgemount at Bradfield is at 1300ft and I think that is classed as Sheffield 6.

Sultana
26-09-2007, 11:41
I think this may have been discussed before a long time ago. I can't recall where the highest point was though.

astronaut77
26-09-2007, 11:44
Some info here from quite a while ago!
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13900

sixxsix
26-09-2007, 11:44
Does anyone know the answer to this? It's causing a lot of heat between me and the OH.

I say it's Grenoside and she says it's Lodge Moor.

Does anyone know?

Grenoside is nowhere near. Neither is Lodge Moor as it rises further up to Redmires.
For a really fantastic in-depth look at the geography of the city take a look at this website. http://www.map21ltd.com/COSTC11/arb-sheff.htm

EVVY
26-09-2007, 11:45
Theres a sign on the top of herdings hill that says herdings is the highest point in sheffield

toonarmani
26-09-2007, 11:46
discussed here: http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125268

:thumbsup:

Heyesey
26-09-2007, 12:01
Theres a sign on the top of herdings hill that says herdings is the highest point in sheffield

It's wrong.

chris@25
26-09-2007, 12:15
OS maps have little lines all over them that tell you how high a point is. Can I suggest people buy one, it would save time. Alternatively, install Google Earth.

Ringinglow village is at 330m, highest uninhabited point in Sheffield boundary is Margery Hill at 546m. Lodge Moor is 290m, Herdings 220m (so also lower than parts of Stannington and Fulwood).

Fougasse
26-09-2007, 12:54
Thanks everybody - but it doesn't seem to definitively answer the question. There must - surely? - be an official highest point, but it seems to be all over the place.

I live at Shirecliffe, and from there we get a very nearly 360 degree view above most - but not all - of Sheffield. Wincobank Hill, looks very high, Grenoside and Lodge Moor the highest. But several other places seem just as high (allowing for the horizon effect).

I might just get in touch with the town hall.

Heyesey
26-09-2007, 13:26
Thanks everybody - but it doesn't seem to definitively answer the question. There must - surely? - be an official highest point, but it seems to be all over the place.


The official highest point in South Yorkshire is Margery Hill. If that falls within the boundary of Sheffield - there's your answer.


(I say "if" because I remember reading some years ago that High Neb, on Stanage Edge, was the highest point in Sheffield at 468m. Margery Hill is clearly higher, so either what I read was wrong, or Margery Hill is not in Sheffield.)


Unofficial, official evidence :D (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margery_Hill)

alex3659
26-09-2007, 13:38
just been looking in wiki and it says sheffield has numerous places above 500mt [1640ft] and also places below 10mt also the most trees per population in europe and the only city in brittain with a national park incorperated in its borders. all that and still no highest point named

Albert T Smith
26-09-2007, 13:55
The highest point of Sheffield is High Neb on Stanage Edge at 458 Mtrs or 1503 ft.

Some years ago I organised a successful sponsored walk from the lowest to the highest points of the City. The route followed the Canal Tow Path - Road walk to Encliffe Park - Through the Porter Valley to above Ringinglow- Road walk to Upper Burbage Bridge then walk along Stanage Edge to High Neb. Finishing at either Moscar or Hathersage.

These days the walk would be made more interesting. One diversion that could be made would be at the top of Porter Clough. It could use the path at the back of Redmires Dams to Stanage Pole then onto High Neb.

alex3659
26-09-2007, 14:25
The official highest point in South Yorkshire is Margery Hill. If that falls within the boundary of Sheffield - there's your answer.


(I say "if" because I remember reading some years ago that High Neb, on Stanage Edge, was the highest point in Sheffield at 468m. Margery Hill is clearly higher, so either what I read was wrong, or Margery Hill is not in Sheffield.)


Unofficial, official evidence :D (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margery_Hill)

margery hill is in sheffield 546mt highest. don valley 10mt lowest according to wikipedia ,. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/talk:sheffield

Heyesey
26-09-2007, 14:53
The highest point of Sheffield is High Neb on Stanage Edge at 458 Mtrs or 1503 ft.

Evidently not...

chris@25
26-09-2007, 16:41
Everything from the eastern bank of Howden reservoir, north east toward Stocksbridge, is Sheffield (the boundary between Sheffield and Barnsley boroughs is at Langsett), so margery hill is the highest point in Sheffield.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=53.44052,-1.71136|14|4&dp=841&loc=GB:53.3914:-1.5409:13|stannington|Stannington, South Yorkshire

Albert T Smith
26-09-2007, 18:30
Its about time some people got a map showing the Boundary of the City of Sheffield.
Then come back with what they find !. I left school at 14 yrs old also.

alex3659
26-09-2007, 18:36
Its about time some people got a map showing the Boundary of the City of Sheffield.
Then come back with what they find !. I left school at 14 yrs old also.

albert you sound like a very nice well informed person ,but even you can be wrong .

yorkie75
26-09-2007, 18:45
From what I can remember if you go to the field at the top of Frecheville next to Birley school and walk to the top were you can see in the direction of norton then you will come across a white concrete bollard which I think is either the highest point or one of the highest points, so my old Birley school teacher told me.

Albert T Smith
26-09-2007, 18:47
albert you sound like a very nice well informed person ,but even you can be wrong .

I always look forward to being shown that I am.
We all learn that way! ??

alex3659
26-09-2007, 18:49
I always look forward to being shown that I am.
We all learn that way! ??

read the posts follow the threads and take yer head out of the sand
as far as margery hill is concerned. the facts are there.

Albert T Smith
26-09-2007, 18:54
Elevation
I am not aware of any point in Sheffield being at 500m (or 10m in fact). I do believe the statement that most people live between 100 and 200 meters to be correct however. Do these figures have a reference? Thanks :)

here. It's over 500m in the peak district part of the city and 10m at Don Valley. --josh 19:13, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't think many people would consider the remote area of Margery Hill "Sheffield", but as far as the municipality goes one must include it it seems!
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What ' it seems ' is not necessarily the facts.

alex3659
26-09-2007, 19:00
Elevation
I am not aware of any point in Sheffield being at 500m (or 10m in fact). I do believe the statement that most people live between 100 and 200 meters to be correct however. Do these figures have a reference? Thanks :)

here. It's over 500m in the peak district part of the city and 10m at Don Valley. --josh 19:13, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't think many people would consider the remote area of Margery Hill "Sheffield", but as far as the municipality goes one must include it it seems!
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What ' it seems ' is not necessarily the facts.

no point saying anymore to you albert. like i said your wrong like heyessey said but if you wont stand corrected thers no point. no doubt you will be back with some long winded way of proving your right but .........whatever..why not ban encyclopedias and just have albert.

theome
26-09-2007, 19:08
This is always a good un.For those of us of a certain vintage, High neb is the high point. (1502ft)But boundary changes now bring in the Derwent Moors, and include Margery Hill, 546m(1791ft), but also spot height 548m(1797ft)

alex3659
26-09-2007, 19:09
This is always a good un.For those of us of a certain vintage, High neb is the high point. (1502ft)But boundary changes now bring in the Derwent Moors, and include Margery Hill, 546m(1791ft), but also spot height 548m(1797ft)
cheers ............

stanleeder
26-09-2007, 19:44
I wonder if the highest point in Sheffield is higher than the highest point in Leeds. I'd like to think that we can beat them on that score!

algy
26-09-2007, 19:47
Thanks everybody - but it doesn't seem to definitively answer the question. There must - surely? - be an official highest point, but it seems to be all over the place.

I live at Shirecliffe, and from there we get a very nearly 360 degree view above most - but not all - of Sheffield. Wincobank Hill, looks very high, Grenoside and Lodge Moor the highest. But several other places seem just as high (allowing for the horizon effect).

I might just get in touch with the town hall.
Ask the Local Studies Library. It's such a frequently asked question they have a note of it permanently on the enquiry desk!

Heyesey
26-09-2007, 19:55
This is always a good un.For those of us of a certain vintage, High neb is the high point. (1502ft)But boundary changes now bring in the Derwent Moors, and include Margery Hill, 546m(1791ft), but also spot height 548m(1797ft)


Aha! What I read was probably true when I read it; it just isn't any more. :)

Heyesey
26-09-2007, 20:07
I wonder if the highest point in Sheffield is higher than the highest point in Leeds. I'd like to think that we can beat them on that score!

Cookridge water tower is arguably the highest point in the Leeds boundary, at 227m above sea level.

Even if there's actually somewhere a touch higher, that's way below even the highest point in the urban city area of Sheffield, let alone Margery Hill.

m^rk
26-09-2007, 20:27
Does anyone know the answer to this? It's causing a lot of heat between me and the OH.

I say it's Grenoside and she says it's Lodge Moor.

Does anyone know?

I think it's the Top of Ringinglow Road that's the Highest point it's over 400m above sea level.

Albert T Smith
26-09-2007, 21:00
This is always a good un.For those of us of a certain vintage, High neb is the high point. (1502ft)But boundary changes now bring in the Derwent Moors, and include Margery Hill, 546m(1791ft), but also spot height 548m(1797ft)

I'll now except that with the boundary changes Margery Hill is in fact the Highest point of the City of Sheffield. Does our green belt land cover this extra land?

You learn something each and ever day - Never ever forget that.
Thank you for the information ' theome '.

sparky2
27-09-2007, 08:23
From what I can remember if you go to the field at the top of Frecheville next to Birley school and walk to the top were you can see in the direction of norton then you will come across a white concrete bollard which I think is either the highest point or one of the highest points, so my old Birley school teacher told me.

I'm certain you are correct, I live at Frecheville and we were always told that at school there. I have never heard anyone else say anything different

Ally_Fraser
27-09-2007, 09:40
This is always a good un.For those of us of a certain vintage, High neb is the high point. (1502ft)But boundary changes now bring in the Derwent Moors, and include Margery Hill, 546m(1791ft), but also spot height 548m(1797ft)

Is High Neb classed as Sheffield? I know it's close, but I would have put it in Derbyshire?

genie 12
27-09-2007, 09:50
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkie75 View Post
From what I can remember if you go to the field at the top of Frecheville next to Birley school and walk to the top were you can see in the direction of norton then you will come across a white concrete bollard which I think is either the highest point or one of the highest points, so my old Birley school teacher told me.

well it's a trig point and it means that it so many feet above sea level if i remember correctly. It's a great view and you really do get the feeling that you are on top of the world but i'm sure there must be other ones in sheffield

Heyesey
27-09-2007, 09:52
Is High Neb classed as Sheffield? I know it's close, but I would have put it in Derbyshire?

I think it's on the boundary; and since all points on the boundary must be classed as in one council or the other, it got put in Sheffield. I don't know if that was because of anything more meaningful than a coin-toss or other random decision, but Sheffield it is.

Leg-end
27-09-2007, 10:11
From Pipine in another thread:

Using my GIS with Ordnance Survey height data and the city boundary I calculate the highest and lowest points to be :

High Stones (out towards howden moors) at 548m
Blackburn meadows sewage works at 28m

I'd say that was 100% accurate.

Ally_Fraser
27-09-2007, 10:18
I think it's on the boundary; and since all points on the boundary must be classed as in one council or the other, it got put in Sheffield. I don't know if that was because of anything more meaningful than a coin-toss or other random decision, but Sheffield it is.

you learn something every day on here!!

sixxsix
27-09-2007, 10:39
Elevation
I am not aware of any point in Sheffield being at 500m (or 10m in fact). I do believe the statement that most people live between 100 and 200 meters to be correct however. Do these figures have a reference? Thanks :)

here. It's over 500m in the peak district part of the city and 10m at Don Valley. --josh 19:13, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't think many people would consider the remote area of Margery Hill "Sheffield", but as far as the municipality goes one must include it it seems!
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What ' it seems ' is not necessarily the facts.
I consider every bit of land within the boundary to be a part of Sheffield. It's only just over a hundred years ago that Hillsborough wasn't a part of Sheffield and even more recent that places like Totley and Norton were in Derbyshire. The fact remains that these are just as much a part of Sheffield (and therefore Yorkshire) as Attercliffe, Darnall, Pitsmoor etc.

alex3659
27-09-2007, 10:44
1968 beighton came into sheffield..bottom of linley lane woodhouse still has a sign saying derbyshire. we are a bunch of land grabbers.

Leg-end
27-09-2007, 10:46
Ordnance Survey have it officially as:

High Stones (out towards howden moors) at 548m
Blackburn meadows sewage works at 28m

That is correct as of today (27/09/07 11:47)

Albert T Smith
27-09-2007, 10:50
you learn something every day on here!!

And don't ever forget it. - However long you live.

With the recent boundary changers,' Margery Hill ' is now the highest point. It was High Neb situated on Stanage previously.

Regarding the point at Frechville. It is not many years ago that Frechville was classed as being in Derbyshire. I believe the ' Birley Moor Brook ' was the border line.

Anyway What is the lowest point in the City of Sheffield?

Leg-end
27-09-2007, 10:54
Anyway What is the lowest point in the City of Sheffield?

Blackburn meadows sewage works at 28m

www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=180500

alex3659
27-09-2007, 11:09
And don't ever forget it. - However long you live.

With the recent boundary changers,' Margery Hill ' is now the highest point. It was High Neb situated on Stanage previously.

Regarding the point at Frechville. It is not many years ago that Frechville was classed as being in Derbyshire. I believe the ' Birley Moor Brook ' was the border line.

Anyway What is the lowest point in the City of Sheffield?

already been stated , don valley 10mt .........here we go again

BasilRathbon
27-09-2007, 11:13
What is the lowest point in this thread?

Heyesey
27-09-2007, 11:26
What is the lowest point in this thread?

What makes you think we've reached it yet?

Albert T Smith
27-09-2007, 12:56
cgksheff on post #017 is the perfect guide.
See this at: www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=180500
See ' Council Ward Boundaries '.

The only question's that I now have is. ' Is Margery Hill actually in either the Stocksbridge or Stannington Wards ? ' and ' Does the boundaries of the City of Sheffield naturally follow the Constituency Boundaries? '. ( Be cos if they dont ******!!).

theome
27-09-2007, 13:31
http://www.hill-bagging.co.uk/CountyTops.php

Ally_Fraser
27-09-2007, 13:37
So if you take High Neb and High Stones out of the equation, whats the highest (reasonably) densely-inhabited point in the city?

Heyesey
27-09-2007, 15:47
So if you take High Neb and High Stones out of the equation, whats the highest (reasonably) densely-inhabited point in the city?


Probably Ringinglow, but even that's really an isolated village, for all that it falls within the city boundary.

Highest point that is linked to the city centre via continuous urban sprawl? Don't know. Possibly Lodge Moor.

yorkie75
27-09-2007, 17:55
Forget the highest point in sheffield I went up Ben Nevis in Scotland a couple of weeks ago and that is the highest mountain in the UK and what a view.:hihi:

Albert T Smith
27-09-2007, 18:28
So if you take High Neb and High Stones out of the equation, whats the highest (reasonably) densely-inhabited point in the city?

I'd plug for Lodge Moor. Though the top end of Genoside may pip it.
Has anyone got a G.P.S. which gives the point heights along with its Grid Ref to give an independent check?
It would be interesting to actually know the answer.

Albert T Smith
27-09-2007, 18:36
Forget the highest point in sheffield I went up Ben Nevis in Scotland a couple of week ago and that I the highest mountain in the UK and what a view.:hihi:

I've been about six times and I've never managed to get to the top.
Its either been foggy, Bouncing with rain (A Storm), Someone's had to go back for something or we've finished up having a row and coming back down!! ( Danger of being shoved ?(Blown) off the top !! ).
I've managed a good few other ' Bens ' though and the weather as always been wonderful.

cartav
27-09-2007, 19:29
Always understood it was Stanedge Pole, which is on the boundary.Nearest spot height on OS sheet 110 is 435 metres & that's probably a bit higher.

Heyesey
27-09-2007, 19:31
Always understood it was Stanedge Pole, which is on the boundary.Nearest spot height on OS sheet 110 is 435 metres & that's probably a bit higher.

It was part of Stanage Edge, until boundary changes brought Margery Hill into the Sheffield boundaries.

cartav
27-09-2007, 19:34
Always understood it was Stanedge Pole, which is just in, or on, the boundary. Nearest spot height on OS sheet 110 is 435 metres, and that's probably a bit higher.

cartav
27-09-2007, 19:35
Always understood it was Stanedge Pole, which is on the boundary.Nearest spot height on OS sheet 110 is 435 metres & that's probably a bit higher.

theome
27-09-2007, 20:23
435 m=1427ft

Googleberry
27-09-2007, 20:30
It's the curvature of the Earth that makes it difficult to appreciate the highest points. Google Earth will show you the height of anywhere; try it in 3D View mode!

halevan
27-09-2007, 20:48
Does anyone know which is the highest place in Sheffield. We're debating whether it's Lodge Moor or Sky Edge but can't find any confirmation


Mount Zion at Crookes, from the top of the tower, one can see Blackpool tower on a clear day.

jgharston
27-09-2007, 20:52
Its about time some people got a map showing the Boundary of the City of Sheffield.

http://www.mdfs.net/Docs/Sheffield/Borders

jgharston
27-09-2007, 21:01
The only question's that I now have is. ' Is Margery Hill actually in either the Stocksbridge or Stannington Wards ? ' and ' Does the boundaries of the City of Sheffield naturally follow the Constituency Boundaries? '. ( Be cos if they dont ******!!).

It's in Stocksbridge & Upper Don ward; Penistone & Stocksbridge Parliamentary Constituency.

Constituency boundaries are not tied to district (council) boundaries, they are tied to ward boundaries. Contituencies must be made up of a whole number of wards and be as near to the same population size as possible.

As council populations are not exact multiples of constituency sizes this means that most constituencies overlap council boundaries. The current 'Pensitone & Stocksbridge' contisuency is an example, as is the old 'Barnely East & Mexborough' which overlapped the Barnsley/Rotherham boundary.

bernthefirs
27-09-2007, 21:16
Top of Lydgate Lane, Crosspool, neer the tv mast, defo.

willman
27-09-2007, 21:17
threads merged.

Ivor&Mel
27-09-2007, 21:19
threads merged.

That'll just start the argument all over again :D

T-MAX
28-09-2007, 12:21
Let me see? Highest point in Sheffield?

Undoubtedly the Blades getting relegated last season (or have I misunderstood 'high point'?) :hihi::hihi::hihi:

Heyesey
28-09-2007, 12:46
threads merged.

The other thread was three years old. What can it possibly add to this one? :huh:

Albert T Smith
28-09-2007, 18:14
It was part of Stanage Edge, until boundary changes brought Margery Hill into the Sheffield boundaries.

If that is ,' a fact '. Margery Hill will come first before High Neb on Stanage unless Crow Chin is now taken in the cities boundary.

Anone interested in taking part in a Relayed Sponsored Walk From, 'The Summit of Margery Hill to the lowest point of Sheffield ' ?

Or more important have we some good sponsor's ? I'll do a stint.

FORE
28-09-2007, 22:57
Mount Zion at Crookes, from the top of the tower, one can see Blackpool tower on a clear day.

Crookes Sheffield?

What you on?

andrewchase
29-09-2007, 02:09
435 m=1427ft

Salute to you sir.

We are after all British, so using British measurements seems appropriate.

Albert T Smith
29-09-2007, 08:16
It's in Stocksbridge & Upper Don ward; Penistone & Stocksbridge Parliamentary Constituency.

Constituency boundaries are not tied to district (council) boundaries, they are tied to ward boundaries. Contituencies must be made up of a whole number of wards and be as near to the same population size as possible.

As council populations are not exact multiples of constituency sizes this means that most constituencies overlap council boundaries. The current 'Pensitone & Stocksbridge' contisuency is an example, as is the old 'Barnely East & Mexborough' which overlapped the Barnsley/Rotherham boundary.

If I lived on the top of ' Margery Hill '. Would I pay my Council Tax to Sheffield City Council or some other Council?

From memory the Yorkshire - Derbyshire Border ran down the middle of Lady Bower then at the top end, ( John Derry Memorial Bridge, Erected 1951. 1875 author of 'Across the Derbyshire Moors'. ) it took the Cut Gate Path over to the Flouch. At the bottom of the dams, it ran from Yorkshire Bridge, (Bottom of Win Hill ) directly up to High Neb on Stanage.

Though its got to be added that not many Horse & Carts use the roads these days so things may have changed!!

kirstenswift
02-02-2008, 19:16
the highest point in sheffield is mount zion at the top of lydgate lane, can't remember if its classed as crookes or crosspool.

MichaelJP
02-02-2008, 20:25
Can't be the top of Lydgate Lane, that's 250m whereas Lodge Moor near the old hospital site is nearly 300m asl. Personally I wouldn't count Stanedge Pole no matter what the formal definition, as there's plenty of clear countryside before you get there.

mavis
02-02-2008, 20:34
born and bred on it......i believe its "mount zion" top of lydgate lane s10...crosspool....

where 1 famous man said on a clear day he could see lincoln cathedral from this point....do you know who?

Heyesey
02-02-2008, 20:43
Personally I wouldn't count Stanedge Pole no matter what the formal definition, as there's plenty of clear countryside before you get there.


Well, if you refuse to accept parts of Sheffield as being in Sheffield, you can pretty much claim anywhere you want as the highest point.

danradclife0
03-02-2008, 02:21
lodge morr has a plaque saying its the highest point in sheffield

kirstenswift
03-02-2008, 07:00
I think there will always be arguments between Lydgate Lane and Lodgemoor. I've lived in both these areas and the views are pretty amazing. I've never classed Stanage Edge as part of Sheffield its in Derbyshire and am sure if you lived up there up would your council tax to derbyshire and not sheffield council. Being a crookes lass I think I'll always think of Lydgate Lane being higher.

Heyesey
03-02-2008, 09:41
I think there will always be arguments between Lydgate Lane and Lodgemoor.


Only amongst stupid people who can't be bothered to look at a contour map or check on the web.

Angilaruk
03-02-2008, 10:40
Hiya

Sorry, but how can there be an arguement? Lodge Moor is significantly higher than Lydgate Lane, therefore there is no arguement. Measurements of height above sea level is 100% proof of the fact.

Angi


I think there will always be arguments between Lydgate Lane and Lodgemoor. I've lived in both these areas and the views are pretty amazing. I've never classed Stanage Edge as part of Sheffield its in Derbyshire and am sure if you lived up there up would your council tax to derbyshire and not sheffield council. Being a crookes lass I think I'll always think of Lydgate Lane being higher.

Longcol
03-02-2008, 12:13
Hiya

Sorry, but how can there be an arguement? Lodge Moor is significantly higher than Lydgate Lane, therefore there is no arguement. Measurements of height above sea level is 100% proof of the fact.

Angi

Lodge Moor is the highest point in the "built up" area of Sheffield - the highest point in the city boundaries is Margery Hill.

Angilaruk
03-02-2008, 14:12
Lodge Moor is the highest point in the "built up" area of Sheffield - the highest point in the city boundaries is Margery Hill.

I didn't dispute that, I disputed the fact that Lodge Moor is higher than Lydgate Lane :)

Longcol
03-02-2008, 14:21
I didn't dispute that, I disputed the fact that Lodge Moor is higher than Lydgate Lane :)

If you think about it, it isn't that much of a drop from the top of Lydgate Lane to Crosspool Tavern / shops etc - then road towards Lodge Moor climbs continually for a good mile or more up to the golf club - drops a bit and then climbs again to were the hospital was.

danradclife0
03-02-2008, 14:54
just after the golf club theres a plaque

Angilaruk
03-02-2008, 15:11
Yup, you are correct, there is a drop from Lydgate Lane to Crosspool, then you goup hill to Lodge Moor .... therefore Lodge Moor is higher ............. see, I knew I was right LOL

If you think about it, it isn't that much of a drop from the top of Lydgate Lane to Crosspool Tavern / shops etc - then road towards Lodge Moor climbs continually for a good mile or more up to the golf club - drops a bit and then climbs again to were the hospital was.

kirstenswift
03-02-2008, 15:28
Only amongst stupid people who can't be bothered to look at a contour map or check on the web.

or sad stupid people for actually checking! whose bothered anyway

davim19
06-02-2008, 11:22
High high is Bolsterstone, from there you definately look down on to Sheffield? Surely it must come close.

Starquake
06-02-2008, 14:08
born and bred on it......i believe its "mount zion" top of lydgate lane s10...crosspool....

where 1 famous man said on a clear day he could see lincoln cathedral from this point....do you know who?

I believe it was this point at Lydgate Lane before various boundry changes brought Lodge Moor into the city boundries - I may be wrong.

You can certainly see Lincoln Cathedral from Lodge Moor / Top end of Fulwood as I have done from a friends house up there.

sandeepsingh
06-02-2008, 15:17
Dear,
I cant guess ? :mad: If you come to know please mention here. But truth !

Heyesey
06-02-2008, 18:56
High high is Bolsterstone, from there you definately look down on to Sheffield? Surely it must come close.

It probably does come close; but if we're talking about the official City boundaries, Margery Hill is higher, and if we're talking about only the built-up area of Sheffield, Bolsterstone isn't in it. It's a long way out into the countryside.

It may well be the highest lived-in area anywhere within the city boundaries...

Sheffreject
12-06-2008, 21:30
lodge morr has a plaque saying its the highest point in sheffield

There is a stone "plaque" by the bus stop on top of Hallam Head.
Im sure i heard gossip saying it was 900 ft above sea level

MissBling
12-06-2008, 22:16
I think it's Shirecliffe as there are trick points up there, whatever they are

gallarooney
12-06-2008, 22:49
im sorry to rain on everyones parade but the official highest point of sheffield is-------------------------------------------------------------------------
the top of the flats at jordenthorpe :D

jgharston
12-06-2008, 22:58
I believe it was this point at Lydgate Lane before various boundry changes brought Lodge Moor into the city boundries - I may be wrong.

Lodge Moor has always been within the city boundaries, see http://mdfs.net/Docs/Sheffield/Borders
Stanedge Pole was the highest point in Sheffield until 1974 when Bradfield Parisj was added to the city and a point close to Margery Hill became the highest point.

jgharston
12-06-2008, 23:06
If I lived on the top of ' Margery Hill '. Would I pay my Council Tax to Sheffield City Council or some other Council?

Sheffield. As you can see from http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=417500&y=395500&z=3&sv=417500,395500&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf the Sheffield/Derbyshire border is about a mile west of Margery Hill.

Donny Lad
13-06-2008, 07:11
I'd always been led to believe that the highest point within the built up area of Sheffield, as somebody has already suggested, is Hallam Head, near Hallamshire Golf Course and the junction of Redmires Road and Hallam Grange Road.

Another piece of useful/useless information (depending on how you look at these things) is that, not only is it the highest point in the city, but that it is the highest point of any urbanised area in Britain. Not a lot of people know that. I've spent years trying to disprove that, but so far on my travels I haven't come up with anywhere else.

Sheffreject
13-06-2008, 12:19
[QUOTE=Donny Lad;3655164]I'd always been led to believe that the highest point within the built up area of Sheffield, as somebody has already suggested, is Hallam Head, near Hallamshire Golf Course and the junction of Redmires Road and Hallam Grange Road.

Another piece of useful/useless information (depending on how you look at these things) is that, not only is it the highest point in the city, but that it is the highest point of any urbanised area in Britain. Not a lot of people know that. I've spent years trying to disprove that, but so far on my travels I haven't come up with anywhscho views across the valley and

DUFFEMS
13-06-2008, 14:53
Where we live up Ringinglow Road our satnav reads 880 feet above sea level, no doubt someone will now dispute that saying satnavs aren't accurate, just thought I'd get you all going again!
Incidentally, we aren't right at the top of Ringinglow Road.

Sheffreject
13-06-2008, 16:03
[QUOTE=Donny Lad;3655164]I'd always been led to believe that the highest point within the built up area of Sheffield, as somebody has already suggested, is Hallam Head, near Hallamshire Golf Course and the junction of Redmires Road and Hallam Grange Road.

Another piece of useful/useless information (depending on how you look at these things) is that, not only is it the highest point in the city, but that it is the highest point of any urbanised area in Britain. Not a lot of people know that. I've spent years trying to disprove that, but so far on my travels I haven't come up with anywhscho views across the valley and

Sorry for deleting some of your info by mistake.I was deleting my own when i pressed too hard on the key !.Anyway,I have also heard however that Tan Hill village in Cumbria Is the highest village in England

Sheffreject
13-06-2008, 16:06
[QUOTE=Sheffreject;3656283]

Sorry for deleting some of your info by mistake.I was deleting my own when i pressed too hard on the key !.Anyway,I have also heard however that Tan Hill village in Cumbria Is the highest village in England
but totaly agree that having lived out at Lodge Moor for 9 years and went to Hallam school
that the views across the golfcourse and the valleys are stunning

Donny Lad
13-06-2008, 16:49
[QUOTE=Sheffreject;3656283]

Anyway,I have also heard however that Tan Hill village in Cumbria Is the highest village in England

Yes, but you can hardly call Tan Hill village (what there is of it) an urbanised area - it's no more than the famous Tan Hill pub and one or two surrounding houses. I've no doubt there are loads of small to medium sized villages higher than Hallam Head, but I was talking about the highest built up area in a city sense.

lizmachin
13-06-2008, 17:00
According to Wiki, the lowest point in Sheffield is just 33 feet above sea level. I presume this is somewhere on the lower Don.

hockeybear
13-06-2008, 21:45
Top of Lydgate Lane, Crosspool, neer the tv mast, defo.


I always thought that the highest point in Sheffield is the top of the tv mast.

CorkerSWFC
13-06-2008, 21:56
Gosh this is an old 1 i know that Herdings is one of the few.

Djcraig
14-06-2008, 22:48
the highest point of sheffield and that i know that it is in the sheffield boundry of the city is Herding hill where the two flats are.
there is a stone there to prove it as well
i lived on and was brought up on the estate and was told at school that that was the highest point.
correct me if im wrong.
craig

SHsheff
14-06-2008, 23:04
When I was a kid growing up at Lodge Moor, we were told that Hallam Grange Rise was one of the highest points (built up)...

....having waited for the 51 bus at the stop at the end of the road, I can certainly confirm that it felt like it!

Djcraig
15-06-2008, 05:31
yes i was told that as well but lodge moor was built up as you said the herdings hill was a natural hill also it over looked a an area which was a battle field many moons ago and the story still goes on about the drummer boy but thats a different thread..also it was confirmed that herdings was the highest point of sheffield hence the old RAF aerodrome for the war now known as norton driving. i also spent a many of times waiting for the number 51 bus and if you waited for the number 28 at its terminus you could take it in the perfect view of the city.
when it snowed the herdings estate was the first to be cut off due to transport not being able to climb up the roads which as a kid we enjoyed cus that meant no school as well.
Herdings being part of the Gleadless valley area was built on many hills but if you walk up to the flats at the top of the hill where there used to be three high rise flats you will see the momument.
when we was kids returning from a day out we used to sit in the car looking for those three flats knowing when we saw them that we wasnt to long to get home...so the mind boggles you need to go and look and decide for your self



craig

Donny Lad
15-06-2008, 10:14
Correct me if i'm wrong.

OK. You're wrong.

Hallam Head is at roughly 300 metres. I am probably shooting myself in the foot by admitting that I don't know the Herdings area intimately, but on my Ordnance Survey map of that area the highest point I can find marked is 218 metres.

We really must try and get this sorted once and for all. I'll see if I can get a definitive answer and report back.

supersonic
15-06-2008, 11:19
Depends on what definitions we are using. As has been pointed out, the highest ground point within the Sheffield boundary is Margery Hill at 546m, closely followed by a point on the near Featherbed Moss at 545m.
If we take the urbanized area as the parts of the city not in the Peak District, then the areas around Fullwood all are high - Knoll Top Farm at Fulwood Head is 372m.
A few places to the North of the city, such as in Stocksbridge (359m), Greno Knoll (306m) and Bents Hill (~350m) all rise quite high and are not in the national park.
The aerial height of Crosspool transmitter stands 295m above sea level - while on the top of the Arts Tower you would be 162m.

Djcraig
15-06-2008, 20:47
yes but forget the peak district and man made towers ect where on about the ground its self and there is a stone monument which has been there for over 60 years explaining about herdings hill...jus going on what we was taught.

Donny Lad
19-06-2008, 21:39
OK. You're wrong.

Hallam Head is at roughly 300 metres. I am probably shooting myself in the foot by admitting that I don't know the Herdings area intimately, but on my Ordnance Survey map of that area the highest point I can find marked is 218 metres.

We really must try and get this sorted once and for all. I'll see if I can get a definitive answer and report back.

OK, we're getting there. The things I do for you lot!

I have spent some of my hard earned cash on an altimeter, and spent an hour this afternoon with an Ordnance Survey map going around various points to the west of Sheffield, where the exact altitude was given, to calibrate the thing (which has to be done of a daily basis, because of changing air pressure). Hallam Head is at 292 metres, or 958 feet.

All I have to do now (and it won't be for another week or so) is to drive round some of the other parts of Sheffield which have been put forward as the highest points, and I will come up with the definitive list.

Heyesey
20-06-2008, 01:55
No part of Herdings Hill is higher than 760 feet (230 metres). Large chunks of Western Sheffield can beat that out of sight. The top of Hallam Grange Road, for instance, is something over 960 feet (261 metres) high; Sandringham Place, at the extreme edge of the urban area, is over 980 feet (279 metres).

I have a suspicion that that's been built on the site of Lodge Moor Hospital - anyone confirm?

F. McBinley
20-06-2008, 06:18
Where is Sky Edge? It sounds awesome!

Donny Lad
20-06-2008, 07:01
No part of Herdings Hill is higher than 760 feet (230 metres). Large chunks of Western Sheffield can beat that out of sight. The top of Hallam Grange Road, for instance, is something over 960 feet (261 metres) high; Sandringham Place, at the extreme edge of the urban area, is over 980 feet (279 metres).

I have a suspicion that that's been built on the site of Lodge Moor Hospital - anyone confirm?

I will check the altitude of the new estate on the Lodge Moor Hospital site with my new toy, but I don't think it's anywhere near the height of Hallam Head (292 metres, 958 feet). As you come down Redmires Road from the top of Hallam Grange Road you can see the roofs of the new houses and you're even looking down on the clock tower of the old hospital building.

Donny Lad
22-06-2008, 17:11
No part of Herdings Hill is higher than 760 feet (230 metres). Large chunks of Western Sheffield can beat that out of sight. The top of Hallam Grange Road, for instance, is something over 960 feet (261 metres) high; Sandringham Place, at the extreme edge of the urban area, is over 980 feet (279 metres).

I have a suspicion that that's been built on the site of Lodge Moor Hospital - anyone confirm?

This thread seems to have gone cold, but I have been out walking with my altimeter this afternoon (almost got blown away) and for the record I can confirm that Hallam Head is 13 metres higher than Sandringham Place. Heyesey - I think there may be some confusion in your conversion of metres to feet. Your height of Sandringham Place is correct in metres (279), but according to my calculations that comes to only 915 feet, not 980. Give or take, your height of Hallam Head is correct in feet (960), but that comes to 292 metres, not 261.

And, yes, I can confirm that Sandringham Place is at the far (south west) corner of the new housing estate on the Lodge Moor hospital site. Took a bit of finding - everywhere looks the same.

arsenal
22-06-2008, 17:18
In 1993 when the OWLS finish ed 3rd in tne Premship and got to two cup finals

Sheffreject
22-06-2008, 19:56
Hi all
went to "pastures new " today and went out of Sheffield ( got to get out of Coventry once in a while !! ) on the A57 past Lodge Moor ( where i use to live) ,over the Border with Derbyshire and went into Strines Moor.The Strines Moor Inn is suppose to be 1000ft so i don't think it gets much higher than that in the Sheffield City boundary

supersonic
22-06-2008, 22:42
Still several hundred feet short of a few of the hills! But is lovely out on the Strines.

One way is to load Google Earth and look at the spot heights - but the answer is always going to be Margery Hill!

theome
22-06-2008, 22:48
OR......................High Stones

julado
22-06-2008, 22:49
Indeed the highest point is Marjery Hill and the lowest is Blackburn Meadows. :D

supersonic
22-06-2008, 22:57
I think Sheffield has the largest variation in height of any UK city - though will have to check.