View Full Version : Car Accident 2 Aug 07 - Was this you?
Bikergirl 22-09-2007, 14:52 Are you or do you know the blonde young lady that came crashing into the back of my car on the corner of Derbyshire Lane and Chesterfield Road, S8 at about 9.40pm, it was a Thursday and still quite light.
Just so you know, my car was very badly damaged, my 8 year old daughter who was in the back has not slept properly since and 7 weeks on my car is still off the road. I have had to hire a car for a few weeks. I cannot claim this back and I am having to foot the bill for some of the repairs because YOU FAILED TO STOP AND GIVE YOUR DETAILS!!!!
You or your friend's behaviour is despicable!
I just hope you don't do it to someone else because next time you may KILL SOMEONE!
BY THE WAY IF YOU HAVE A CONSCIENCE YOU WILL REPORT YOURSELF TO THE POLICE, BUT SOMEHOW WHO EVER YOU ARE I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE GOT IT IN YOU!!!!!!
shaggydog333 22-09-2007, 15:00 hit and run thats unbelieveable were there any cctv about or any witnesses
Bikergirl 22-09-2007, 16:35 Unfortunately the police said the cctv was not good enough to go on. Believe it or not she did stop for a minute and pleaded with me not to call the police, I turned my back to help my 8 year old who was terrified and screaming because she took the full force and was stuck in the rear of the car and that's when she got back in and drove off.
If you ask me, she had either been drinking, not insured, not taxed or she's just plain stupid. Possibly all of them. She has wrecked a brand new car. I hope it comes back to haunt her one day!
alchresearch 22-09-2007, 16:53 Did you get the reg number or at least the make and model of the car? I hope you've done the decent thing and reported it to the police even if this stupid *** hasn't.
shelby46 23-09-2007, 00:57 That's just awful! I hope your daughter is getting over it a little, although I believe it will still keep coming back to her. You have my sympathies, and I hope that person reads this and has a conscience!!
Bikergirl 23-09-2007, 16:13 Yes, went straight to police station, same evening. Only got partial reg, police said it's not enough to go on. They're not really concerned unless you're badly hurt. You know what they say though, What goes around comes around!
No witnesses at all ? Hard to beleive as its busy round there.
lalaland 23-09-2007, 21:10 Yes, went straight to police station, same evening. Only got partial reg, police said it's not enough to go on. They're not really concerned unless you're badly hurt. You know what they say though, What goes around comes around!
If it was me I'd consider posting the full details on here, you never know if someone knows someone that's got damage to their car but so far hasn't linked the 2 together. It may also be the case that the driver took the car without consent and someone else has a damaged car without any explanation for it and a description may help them work out who took it.
If you just have a partial registration and a description of the vehicle then you aren't posting any personal details as far as I can see but it may be just enough for someone to recognise the person involved and get a result.
I'm sorry to read this happened though, it's irrotating when people do hit and runs and very selfish. It does sound from your description that the driver may have had something to hide so it's a shame they weren't caught.
Hope your child's ok and that your car problems are resolved asap.
alchresearch 24-09-2007, 07:31 Yes, went straight to police station, same evening. Only got partial reg, police said it's not enough to go on.
That just makes me sick. Knowing a make and a partial reg is enough to go on to narrow it down to a small collection. Add in the colour and a search for a possible female owner and it could be found within a morning if they'd make an effort and try and find it before it was repaired. Even if it is, the damage may be evident.
Get your MP on your side and it may be able to be referred to the police complaints commission.
Sorry to hear that, hope your daughter is ok. Its happened to me so know how you feel.
you should put the details on here, as somebody who is a member here, might have repaired her car or somebody might live near to were the car is parked, it could help.
lalaland 24-09-2007, 18:25 That just makes me sick. Knowing a make and a partial reg is enough to go on to narrow it down to a small collection. Add in the colour and a search for a possible female owner and it could be found within a morning if they'd make an effort and try and find it before it was repaired. Even if it is, the damage may be evident.
Get your MP on your side and it may be able to be referred to the police complaints commission.Unfortunately it's not that simple.
For a start, you don't know how much of the registration the OP has. Then work out how many cars would have that partial registration and on top of that the time it would take to visit each person to check out the car and the time chasing them when in or even giving them a reason to view it.
It would be great if life were that simple, but in reality there are plenty of issues such as resources and practicality as to why this wouldn't work. It's not a lack of interest by the police, more a case of reality.
No witnesses at all ? Hard to beleive as its busy round there.
I was involved in a collision with some pillocks who had no regard for legalities nor rules of the road and did a runner a few weeks back, and you wouldn't believe how quickly the dozens of cars and pedestrians in the vicinity disappeared. Not one person remained to act as witness....even though several cars had to drive round my stricken car to get away. Luckily I got the plates and make of car and the police collared them a couple of hours later. :)
Hope the people who turned a blind eye need a witness sometime. :mad:
alchresearch 29-09-2007, 18:45 For a start, you don't know how much of the registration the OP has. Then work out how many cars would have that partial registration and on top of that the time it would take to visit each person to check out the car and the time chasing them when in or even giving them a reason to view it.
The PNC could easily do a search within seconds, even with limited details.
Even with using wildcards, such as possible female owner, and assumed location of Sheffield, it wouldn't produce that many results.
It does depend how much the partial plate is, if it's just 05 for instance then you'd still get a lot of hits. You can't really use the female owner criteria either as there's no real indication whether she did own it, or was just the driver at the time, or had even stolen it.
leginemro 29-09-2007, 21:08 get hold of your insurance company ,ask about MIB ,this is a scheme to cover motorists who have had a accident when the third party are either not insured or dont stop, as in your case .
every insurance company are part of the scheme
get hold of your insurance company ,ask about MIB ,this is a scheme to cover motorists who have had a accident when the third party are either not insured or dont stop, as in your case .
every insurance company are part of the scheme
all claims submitted through the MIB are subject to a £300 excess.
lalaland 30-09-2007, 11:06 The PNC could easily do a search within seconds, even with limited details.
Even with using wildcards, such as possible female owner, and assumed location of Sheffield, it wouldn't produce that many results.Yes, I use the PNC in my work, however as I said in my previous post and as Cyclone pointed out, you don't know how much of the registration the OP has.
There's a lot more to all this than just a quick PNC search and if there was such a simple solution and quick detection as that then it would have been done already.
I had a driver do a similar thing to me back in 2003 but my car wasn't off the road as a result.
I got the full reg no and within 3 weeks of passing the details to the police I got a call to say they had traced the registered owner of the vehicle and had popped over to have a chat with him etc
The guy admitted to the incident and agreed to exchange his insurance details if the police agreed not to charge him with leaving the scene of an accident. His documents were all in order he just said he paniced as was late for an important meeting.
I have always had a pen and paper ready in my car ashtray for this very reason!!! Always take the reg no first!
I recommend everyone does it - it saved me a shed load of trouble!!
I don't think they should let people off like that. He even admitted to it, it's easy to claim 'panic' when he's caught, but in reality he was hoping you'd not get his details and he'd get away with it. If it was panic he could have reported it himself once he calmed down.
...The guy admitted to the incident and agreed to exchange his insurance details if the police agreed not to charge him with leaving the scene of an accident...
How the hell does that work!?!
I'll have to remember the 'leave the scene then negotiate terms' option if I'm ever at fault in an accident :huh:
How the hell does that work!?!
I'll have to remember the 'leave the scene then negotiate terms' option if I'm ever at fault in an accident :huh:
That's modern day policing for you I guess
:rolleyes:
Negotiate with the 'offender' to reduce the amount of their paperwork!
I was quite 'miffed' about it at the time but the policeman's reaction to my protest was 'nobody was injured and the guy has admitted to it and has correct documentation so now it's just procedure for the insurance companies to deal, the case is now closed with the police'
...RESULT!! :mad:
Bikergirl 01-11-2007, 22:57 It is now 12 weeks and my car is finally home. Shame she is still out there to do it again. Maybe one day the same will happen to her and then maybe she will realise what she did. I wouldn't want something like this hanging over my head but then some people don't have a conscience they only think of themselves!
I had a car accident last year in October, I asked if my insurance company would settle 50/50 witht the other party, they said no as the court would come down on the other paries side as they had a witness in the other car. I told them to pay out the other party in July then as I could not afford to go to court. I have had a summons this week from the courts this week about it, the company have not paid up. I have called them up and told the company exactly what I think about their lack of customer service. I have had all the chasing to do myself. They never rang me up with any progress reports about what is happening. So if you are insured with HSBC, be careful they are a bunch of amateurs. They finished 7th in the worst list of car insurers. I am surprised they finished that high
wizadooo 03-11-2007, 16:03 Yes, went straight to police station, same evening. Only got partial reg, police said it's not enough to go on. They're not really concerned unless you're badly hurt. You know what they say though, What goes around comes around!
When you say you got the partial reg. how much did you get ??
Even one letter or number together with the type / colour of vehicle can be searched on. Even down to searching for those in the Sheffield area. Obviously, the more detail you have the fewer the results and follow up enquiries to be made.
Depending on what detail you have, I would ask for a second opinion. Some Officers down seem to know what exactly you can search.
Partial numbers can be searched on local systems which obviously hold far fewer records than the National system.
Hope this helps. If you need any more advice please PM me I may be able to point you in the right direction.
To back cyclone & lala up, the search really isn't that simple...
take for instance the motorway murder (The one that the police believed was road rage and turned out to be wife killing hubby), well correct me if I'm wrong, did the police not have a partial reg' and vehicle type & colour back then, did they find all the vehicles that matched description...? No, they appealed for anyone with a vehicle that matched the description to attend their local police station and clear their name....
There was also a similar case involving a red, rover in Plymouth when I lived there in the 90's / early millennium, and again, they appealed for people to come forward & clear their names.
wizadooo 04-11-2007, 08:22 To back cyclone & lala up, the search really isn't that simple...
My point is the `Search` is very simple, hoewever, clearly the number of results you get depend on the amount of information and accuracy of it.
For example, you can do a search to show you all the Red Audi A4's registered in UK with No Registration detail at all. Will bring loads back !
If you add for example `53` reg. it will cut the results, so on and so forth.
Dont know what details the original poster has but worth a try.
On local systems the number of records are lower and therefore the results returned would be lower. Only helpful if the `vehicle` you are looking for features on these systems.
Other systems exist as well, but not relevant to discuss them on the Forum.
Obvisouly, should you identify the vehicle then comes the task of finding it !!!!!!
Grandad.Malky 04-11-2007, 08:48 Obvisouly, should you identify the vehicle then comes the task of finding it !!!!!!
My nephews car was written off, he had information for the police to find the other driver.
When they went to see the other driver he denied ever owning the car or being in any accident, end of story, he got away with it.
Unfortunately this sort of thing is going to get more and more common, as more and more people are driving uninsured. Estimates are as high as 1 in 5 drivers now uninsured, and the rest of us have to pay for this.
The infux of immigrants is also adding to this.
Somebody pulled out of a junction into a friend's car a few months ago, he tried to drive off but my friends car and another driver behind his car prevented him. In broken english he begged my friend not to report it, and took £500 cash out of his wallet. My friend took the money because he realised he'd end up with nothing if he tried to go the official route.
Spanna2005 04-11-2007, 10:38 When you say you got the partial reg. how much did you get ??
Even one letter or number together with the type / colour of vehicle can be searched on. Even down to searching for those in the Sheffield area. Obviously, the more detail you have the fewer the results and follow up enquiries to be made.
And how do you limit it to the sheffield area? By where the vehicle was registered, or by registered keeper address, and who says that the car or driver were local to the area?
Depending on what detail you have, I would ask for a second opinion. Some Officers down seem to know what exactly you can search.
Partial numbers can be searched on local systems which obviously hold far fewer records than the National system.
What local system for example, there is only one PNC. There might be entries in the local intelligence system if the vehicle has been involved in any other crime, but that's a long shot.
Hope this helps. If you need any more advice please PM me I may be able to point you in the right direction.
I'm not saying that there is no point, but it does depend heavily on how much of the plate is available.
Sorry, that was me, she's left herself logged in again!
wizadooo 04-11-2007, 12:20 Sorry, that was me, she's left herself logged in again!
No problem, Im sure this thread has reached a necessary end.
Enough to say everything I have said is 100% accurate.
Yes there is only one PNC, Local intelligence is a hope as you say, although, many other systems exist, which are not necessary to detail. Yes you can filter searches by description/part or all of the number/where it is registered/stolen and the list goes on.....
My whole point was that the systems are in place to identify the offending vehicle without a full registration mark. Due regard should be given to the offences committed and how far you go.
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