I read somplace that Mohammed was among the top names for new baby boys in the UK, is this true ?

who knows; who cares?

Originally posted by poppins
I read somplace that Mohammed was among the top names for new baby boys in the UK, is this true ?

That is because most of the newborns in England are Muslim, and Mohammed is a popular muslim name.

Originally posted by poppins
I read somplace that Mohammed was among the top names for new baby boys in the UK, is this true ?

Not sure you read this any where that counts as true though, it is an absurd idea.

And possibly a false hood.

Originally posted by jonsastar
That is because most of the newborns in England are Muslim, and Mohammed is a popular muslim name.

Oh, thanks for the info, didn't realise most of the new borns in the UK were muslims, that makes sense then.

Originally posted by jonsastar
Not sure you read this any where that counts as true though, it is an absurd idea.

And possibly a false hood.

Tiz true!

Comes from the National Statistic Office (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/specials/babiesnames_boys.asp), which is a Government Department.

MOHAMMED is in at No.20 and,
MUHAMMAD is in at No. 54.

Originally posted by jonsastar
That is because most of the newborns in England are Muslim, and Mohammed is a popular muslim name.

bit of a sweeping statement, any evidence to back this up?
Reports in last weeks newspapers listed Jack as the top boys name and as far as i can rememeber none of at least the top ten were Mohammed.

Originally posted by Zamo
Tiz true!

Comes from the National Statistic Office (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/specials/babiesnames_boys.asp), which is a Government Department.

MOHAMMED is in at No.20 and,
MUHAMMAD is in at No. 54.

Thanks Zammo,

WOW, amazing, shock and awe.

I guess this is the beggining of the end of traditional british names.

I guess it is because so many tradionally British people choose not to have children any more, and prefer to go for gold.

Originally posted by Lee1979
bit of a sweeping statement, any evidence to back this up?
Reports in last weeks newspapers listed Jack as the top boys name and as far as i can rememeber none of at least the top ten were Mohammed.

Check Zammos link out, Mohammed is # 20 in the statistics, and as far as I know it is a traditional muslim name.

Originally posted by Zamo
Tiz true!

Comes from the National Statistic Office (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/specials/babiesnames_boys.asp), which is a Government Department.

MOHAMMED is in at No.20 and,
MUHAMMAD is in at No. 54.


Whats the difference in the two names ?

Never realised there were more Muslim babies born there than
English, thats interesting, we live and learn.

Originally posted by poppins
Whats the difference in the two names ?

Never realised there were more Muslim babies born there than
English, thats interesting, we live and learn.

Sorry Poppins bit of a non truth there, but it wont be long.

I dont know what the stats are but I think the majority of children born in England are christian.

Yeh, i realise its popular and of course it would be, we have a high population of Muslims in the UK but according to the National Office of Statistics 7 out of 10 people in this country identify themselves as white christian.

Originally posted by poppins
Whats the difference in the two names ?

Never realised there were more Muslim babies born there than
English, thats interesting, we live and learn.

Newsflash: some Muslim babies are also English. Stay tuned for more incredible revelations.

Originally posted by Greenback
Newsflash: some Muslim babies are also English. Stay tuned for more incredible revelations.

That made me chuckle. I think it's a concept that some just can't deal with. Makes their head hurt. :)

Originally posted by Greenback
Newsflash: some Muslim babies are also English. Stay tuned for more incredible revelations.

They may be English in passport but they will not be English at Heart when they grow up unless there are some radical changes that create racial harmony.

I know this may leave me open to a broadside but I believe this to be true.

Question did any one notice the Muslims being nice to there nieghbor week a few weeks ago.

No

Didnt think so,

Same old stares , same rudeness, same old self imposed segregation.

And this was trying.

Go figure.

I imagine you would tell any muslim neighbour of yours to f**k off back home if they tried to be nice to you.

please outline what makes a baby "English at heart" jonsastar...

Originally posted by sham71
I imagine you would tell any muslim neighbour of yours to f**k off back home if they tried to be nice to you.

No , not at all sham, although it would be nice to see a smile every now and then.

I do live in an area that has a large number of Muslims living in it Sham.
And I hear a lot of disrespect coming from the mouths of young Muslims aimed at people of other races, now may be they think they have to act tough to stay on top, but all this does is make people dislike them.

There is no need to be rude all the time, this is not somthing the koran teaches so may be it is the Englishness coming through, I dont know what do you think.

Originally posted by jonsastar
Thanks Zammo,

WOW, amazing, shock and awe.

I guess this is the beggining of the end of traditional british names.

I guess it is because so many tradionally British people choose not to have children any more, and prefer to go for gold.

What exactly are some of the traditonally British names? What sort of time scales makes them traditionally British?

Guess what it wont be the last muslim name to make the top20, now whats that saying??
Ah yes we told you so thats it.
Wake up and realise the country is changing,if you dont like it then DO something about it.?;)

Originally posted by Snook
What exactly are some of the traditonally British names? What sort of time scales makes them traditionally British?

Oh I dont know SNOOK , what about Winston, Levi, David, Dean, Mathew, Jason, Damien, Joseph, William, Leroy, Jack.

There are loads snook, or do you see Mohammed as a traditional British name??

Originally posted by royjames
Guess what it wont be the last muslim name to make the top20, now whats that saying??
Ah yes we told you so thats it.
Wake up and realise the country is changing,if you dont like it then DO something about it.?;)

What's that saying... ah yes, what's in a name?

Why should people care about something as trival as this. It is a very popular name, and given the wide range of names out there now it is no wonder that it comes in at (only :rolleyes: ) 20th.

Originally posted by royjames
Guess what it wont be the last muslim name to make the top20, now whats that saying??
Ah yes we told you so thats it.
Wake up and realise the country is changing,if you dont like it then DO something about it.?;)

Bit too late for that roy, I thik most Forum members may be a little young to remember, but the Muslems were buying up the best real estate in the London area over 45 yerars ago, could be longer, that's only as far back as i remember.

Originally posted by jonsastar
Oh I dont know SNOOK , what about Winston, Levi, David, Dean, Mathew, Jason, Damien, Joseph, William, Leroy, Jack.

There are loads snook, or do you see Mohammed as a traditional British name??

Well, about as British as David, Matthew, Jack(John) and Joseph that all come from the Bible... Levi is hebrew... yep, same part of the world again... just because these names have been common for longer doesn't make them anymore British.

Originally posted by Snook
Well, about as British as David, Matthew, Jack(John) and Joseph that all come from the Bible... Levi is hebrew... yep, same part of the world again... just because these names have been common for longer doesn't make them anymore British.

I will have to disagree there Snook, I would say that these are traditional British names,

Oh lets not forget George, :thumbsup:

WWW.whatsinaname.com

This is a sight with traditional English names on it, guess what names you will find there Snook, :hihi: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by royjames
Wake up and realise the country is changing,if you dont like it then DO something about it.?;)

I agree.

Anyone who doesn't want to live in a multicultural society can always leave the country.

Here we go again with some forum members being in denial again.
Just one more point with views like kirks on here you and the rest woul'd be better joining my lot and DOING something about it instead of moaning about it on here.;)

Originally posted by jonsastar
I will have to disagree there Snook, I would say that these are traditional British names,

Oh lets not forget George, :thumbsup:

Gotta agree with Snook, here.

All names of Jewish origin - as a Joseph who's a gentile it confuses the dickens out of me...:)

I'm a little ignorant here, but when someone converts to Islam do they not take on a new given name?

Joe

Originally posted by jonsastar
No , not at all sham, although it would be nice to see a smile every now and then.

I do live in an area that has a large number of Muslims living in it Sham.
And I hear a lot of disrespect coming from the mouths of young Muslims aimed at people of other races, now may be they think they have to act tough to stay on top, but all this does is make people dislike them.

There is no need to be rude all the time, this is not somthing the koran teaches so may be it is the Englishness coming through, I dont know what do you think.


I think what he's saying is true, but you cant use it to generalise and stereotype all Muslims. I think that overall the most racist mutterings I have ever heard, and that includes white people, have come from Muslims. However I have met Muslims who have been so pro British its uncanny.

Those who wish to doubt or ridicule what this chap is saying, by calling him a racist, dont live in his area, so how can you accuse him of racism? I imagine that being a minority in a muslim community would leave him subject to abuse. The tides are turning and soon a lot of England will be segregated with regards to their race...its the councils who are to blame as they should monitor who they put into their homes and distribute people of different races evenly to avoid creating ethnic ghetto's...but the PC brigage will argue against this, which I expect is because they live in their nice posh little districts and dont have to live in the crapholes which the council and the govt have created themselves. If you havnt lived in a multi ethnic area then you should refrain from commenting on this issue as you have no real understanding of how everyday life is in these areas.

Originally posted by jonsastar
I will have to disagree there Snook, I would say that these are traditional British names.

Ah must be so then. Well, in answer to your question before, I do believe that Mohammed is a traditional British name. My reasoning behind that is that I grew up in Britain, and all my life I have know people who are British with that name... so for me, yes, it's a traditional British name.

Originally posted by Snook
Well, about as British as David, Matthew, Jack(John) and Joseph that all come from the Bible... Levi is hebrew... yep, same part of the world again... just because these names have been common for longer doesn't make them anymore British.

Hey Snook look at this

www.behindthename.com

this is a site that has many traditional English names on it guess what , David, Mathew, Jack and joseph are there , :hihi:

Originally posted by jonsastar
Hey Snook look at this

www.whatsinaname.com

this is a site that has many traditional English names on it guess what , David, Mathew, Jack and joseph are there , :hihi:

How does this site help me... it's American for one thing...

"WE SPECIALIZE IN CUSTOM CORPORATE GIFTS!

These unique hand-crafted items are carefully hand-hammered one at a time by craftsmen that take pride in this dying art. Each item is custom designed, and the design is hand-cut with hammers and chisels. This is the last company in the U.S.A. that offers Union Made, hand-crafted items. Various other hand-crafted items are also available."

I found nothing about where names come from... :confused:

You wanna try behindthename.com

DAVID m English, Jewish, French, Spanish, Russian, Czech, Biblical Possibly derived from Hebrew dod meaning "beloved"...

MATTHEW m English, Biblical
English form of Matthaios, which was a Greek form of the Hebrew name Mattithyahu which meant "gift of YAHWEH"...

JOHN m English, Biblical
English form of Johannes, which was the Latin form of the Greek name Ioannes, itself derived from the Hebrew name Yochanan meaning "YAHWEH is gracious"...

JOSEPH m English, French, Biblical
From the Latin Josephus, which was from the Greek Iosephos, which was from the Hebrew name Yoseph meaning "he will add"...

So they are really tradionally Christian, and coming from Hebrew, than British.

LOL im sure if we were living in Pakistan snook woul'd be saying that john and david are pakistani names, you have to laught at this one dont you?
Best laugh I had in ages Snook keep it coming.:hihi:

Originally posted by jonsastar
Hey Snook look at this

www.whatsinaname.com

this is a site that has many traditional English names on it guess what , David, Mathew, Jack and joseph are there , :hihi:


So, was Jesus English?

Maybe his 'dad' Joseph emigrated from England in the year 2 BC.

I think you will find they are traditional Christian names. Christianity did not start in England.......no, really it didn't.

It started in the same place where Mohammed comes from.

Originally posted by royjames
LOL im sure if we were living in Pakistan snook woul'd be saying that john and david are pakistani names, you have to laught at this one dont you?
Best laugh I had in ages Snook keep it coming.:hihi:

If I lived in Pakistan and had friends that were call John and David all my life, yeah, I'm sure I'd be saying the same thing. :D

ROY - Derived from Gaelic ruadh meaning "red". A notable bearer was Rob Roy, a Scottish outlaw of the 18th century.

I always knew you were a red really Roy. ;)

Originally posted by royjames
LOL im sure if we were living in Pakistan snook woul'd be saying that john and david are pakistani names, you have to laught at this one dont you?
Best laugh I had in ages Snook keep it coming.:hihi:

The origins of the name Roy are French. Are there many French people in the BNP?

Originally posted by Snook
How does this site help me... it's American for one thing...

So really more tradionally Christian, and coming from Hebrew, and British.

Sorry Snook , I hadnt been there for a while, you found the one I meant ,

Gupta has been the most popular name in the north for many years.

How many children grew up thinking their name was Gupta Chipoil, or Gupta Shops?

Myself I would chose a name for a baby by the way it sounded or i realy liked, i would be afraid to look into it to see what it meant, might change my mind, then again i don't think it would.

i think name meanings were just made up by people years ago, they don't have to be true, like what star were you born under ? all leos vergos ect are all suppose to be alike ?

ha ha ha poppins offers the carrot on the stick and people fall for it, SHE,S WINDING YOU UP.........

Cant believe people are taking this thread so seriously . . .Poppins is only trying to stir up more racial hatred. And with Roy at her side they seem to be succeeding!

The truth is - who really gives a s***?? only the BNP . . oh and Poppins.:loopy: :loopy:

Originally posted by JoePritchard

I'm a little ignorant here, but when someone converts to Islam do they not take on a new given name?


Cat Stevens did.

Originally posted by Andy
Cat Stevens did.

Cassius Clay did too.

December 29, 2004


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1418097,00.html


I cant see Mohammed anywhere??? I think it depends on whether you choose the list made up by poppins head or real ones.

Hey Lestat, take a look at this Site for national statistics.
That zamo provided.


Originally posted by Zamo
Tiz true!

Comes from the National Statistic Office (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/specials/babiesnames_boys.asp), which is a Government Department.

MOHAMMED is in at No.20 and,
MUHAMMAD is in at No. 54.

#20 or #24 hardly makes it one of the most popular.

And the statement that most babies born are Muslims is ridiculous.

And thinking that English and Muslim are both examples of nationality or ethnic origin is just stupid.

Originally posted by Cyclone
the statement that most babies born are Muslims is ridiculous.

EXACTLY!! How do you know this? do you ask every parent if their baby will grow up to be a muslim or a christian?

Originally posted by JoePritchard
I'm a little ignorant here, but when someone converts to Islam do they not take on a new given name?

Many do, but they don't have to. It's their choice.

Originally posted by jonsastar
That is because most of the newborns in England are Muslim
Yawn... not true. :loopy:

Originally posted by Greenback
Newsflash: some Muslim babies are also English. Stay tuned for more incredible revelations.

Newsflash: ALL muslim babies born in England are English!

Strange but true! :huh:

(actually I might defer to someone with a more in depth knowledge of birth nationality ;))

Originally posted by Tony
Newsflash: ALL muslim babies born in England are English!

Strange but true! :huh:

(actually I might defer to someone with a more in depth knowledge of birth nationality ;))

I think if they were to apply for a passport they would find they were British...or UK citizens. I don't believe English, Welsh,Scottish, or Irish [as far as NI is concerned] are legally defined terms of nationallity - but perhaps the situation has changed with Scottish and Welsh devolution ?

More breaking news:

Muslims believe all people are born Muslim.

This is because Muslim means 'One who is in a state of complete surrender and at peace'. (Mus-salam / Is-salam salaam - all words connected).

Muhammad (however spelt) means one who is praiseworthy (from Hamd meaning praise).

I am a revert if anyone wants to ask anything.

_=moodi

Originally posted by poppins

Never realised there were more Muslim babies born there than
English, thats interesting, we live and learn.


Don't be absurd. The muslim population is approximately 1 million people out of the UK's 60 million. Of course there aren't more muslim babies born than 'English'.

Originally posted by t020
Don't be absurd. The muslim population is approximately 1 million people out of the UK's 60 million. Of course there aren't more muslim babies born than 'English'.

Nice to see you back t020! you'll find 'Absurdity' is poppins middle name.

Talking about the muslim name getting into the top 20 then this will become more and more the norm as we become more islamified and its to be expected.
It wont be the last name to break into the top 20 unless we stem the increasing immirant population which have larger families than the indigenous population.

Originally posted by royjames
... as we become more islamified....etc.

Forgive my saying but your message is a bit confusing.
Seems you have an issue with something..? Are you one of these people that wear union jacks on their arm to parties...? Perhaps you need to read this:
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26103

Additionally I'd like to stress that many people have always confused the cultural interpretations of Islam with Islam itself. An outsider can, and often will, get a very warped interpretation, fed by the media, which is not an interpretation at all, rendering them sadly far from the truth which is no ground for political comment at all is it?

Originally posted by poppins
I read somplace that Mohammed was among the top names for new baby boys in the UK, is this true ?
is it true they can only use names from the Quran? therefore there are very few names. Suppose its like Ireland where they pass on family names - patrick etc... its less popular nowadays to do that in England for the classic white family? although i do know someone who uses the name james thr - out the family for 1st borns.
dont know if anyone has mentioned it, but id be interested in USAs stats as dont they use Snr and Jnr? And Brad 3rd, 4th etc...

Originally posted by jonsastar
Sorry Poppins bit of a non truth there, but it wont be long.

I dont know what the stats are but I think the majority of children born in England are christian.

or at least "non-muslim"

Originally posted by royjames
Talking about the muslim name getting into the top 20 then this will become more and more the norm as we become more islamified and its to be expected.
It wont be the last name to break into the top 20 unless we stem the increasing immirant population which have larger families than the indigenous population.

Well I for one don't give a flying **** where Mohammed, Muhammed, Quentin and Zach are in this all-important "top 20", and would suggest that everyone who's grown out of nappies should treat it with the respect it deserves.

Ditto your comments about becoming "Islamified" - this is just a nonsense term designed to stoke people's fears.

Why do you hate Muslims so much, Roy? It seems like their very existence on these shores eats away at your soul...

Originally posted by t020
Don't be absurd. The muslim population is approximately 1 million people out of the UK's 60 million. Of course there aren't more muslim babies born than 'English'.

I didn't think so, Jonsastar said that, just figured he knew as he lives in Sheffield I think, why would he make up something like that ?

Originally posted by poppins
I didn't think so, Jonsastar said that, just figured he knew as he lives in Sheffield I think, why would he make up something like that ?

You really are on a wind-up, aren't you! I'd love to know who's pulling the strings. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by t020
Don't be absurd. The muslim population is approximately 1 million people out of the UK's 60 million. Of course there aren't more muslim babies born than 'English'.
they just use less names? whereas english people try and be trendy and call there kids britney and kylie:D

Originally posted by Greenback
You really are on a wind-up, aren't you! I'd love to know who's pulling the strings. :thumbsup:

Sorry, don't get it, wind up what ?

Originally posted by nick2
or at least "non-muslim"

There's no such thing as a non-Muslim baby! The word Muslim is synonymous with perfect human which is what babies are!. Does that scare you?! It shouldn't; it's beautiful!:heyhey:

And no its not true about names only to be used from the Quran - do a search on google - there's huge lists of Muslim names. Many of them have amazing meanings too. Muhammad is very popular for obvious reasons, as are derivatives Ahmed, Hamdi, Mahmood...

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
There's no such thing as a non-Muslim baby! The word Muslim is synonymous with perfect human which is what babies are!. Does that scare you?!

Scare me ? No, why would it ?

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
they just use less names? whereas english people try and be trendy and call there kids britney and kylie:D

Yes but using less names doesn't mean there are more muslim babies than non-muslim babies, which is the argument I was countering.

I don't know which English people you refer to, but (thankfully) I don't know anyone who would name their child 'Britney' or 'Kylie'. :suspect:

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
is it true they can only use names from the Quran? therefore there are very few names. Suppose its like Ireland where they pass on family names - patrick etc... its less popular nowadays to do that in England for the classic white family? although i do know someone who uses the name james thr - out the family for 1st borns.
dont know if anyone has mentioned it, but id be interested in USAs stats as dont they use Snr and Jnr? And Brad 3rd, 4th etc...

Apparently Muslims class there babies name as the first gift they recieve in life and so try to give them a name that has a pleasant or beuatyfull meaning.

You can have a look your self on www.muslim-names.co.uk

Originally posted by poppins
I didn't think so, Jonsastar said that, just figured he knew as he lives in Sheffield I think, why would he make up something like that ?

I have no idea why he/she said that.

Originally posted by t020
I have no idea why he/she said that.

No comment :)

Originally posted by jonsastar
Apparently Muslims class there babies name as the first gift they recieve in life and so try to give them a name that has a pleasant or beuatyfull meaning.

The names of Prophets are very popular names for boys. My three are named after different Prophets.

In Arabic culture, there is little concept of surnames, middle names or maiden names. The childs name is made up of his first name and his fathers first name.

Hence my name is Abdul Aziz, and my fathers name is Tahir, so my really real name is Abdul Aziz Tahir.

Some fathers also choose to name their sons with the fathers name, hence you will see names such Saleh bin Saleh (Saleh, son of Saleh).

Girls are named in the same way, but take their fathers name rather than their mothers name. They don't have to change their name upon marriage.

Originally posted by poppins
Sorry, don't get it, wind up what ?

poppins if ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person alive.

Originally posted by royjames

Just one more point with views like kirks on here you and the rest woul'd be better joining my lot and DOING something about it instead of moaning about it on here.;)

Your 'lot' being?

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
Your 'lot' being?

the bnp

Originally posted by Cyclone
the bnp

You are answering on his behalf?

Anyway here's some writing which help clear the difference between patriotism and nationalism:

http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2001-10-11/news.asp

Also, many people also confuse Islam with Pakistani / Arab / Somali but Islam is earth's fastest growing religion and nearly a third of the earth describes themself as such so it's far more than just the brown skinned people in our country who are Muslim.

Peace...

_-=moodi:thumbsup:

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
You are answering on his behalf?

yes i am.

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
Anyway here's some writing which help clear the difference between patriotism and nationalism:

http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2001-10-11/news.asp

Also, many people also confuse Islam with Pakistani / Arab / Somali but Islam is earth's fastest growing religion and nearly a third of the earth describes themself as such so it's far more than just the brown skinned people in our country who are Muslim.

Peace...

_-=moodi:thumbsup:

You could have used a bit of English patriotism, rather than american, seeing as American Patriotism got us our butts kicked at the boston tea party, and then a bit more for good luck.

The biggest killer on the planet is still religion, not patriot or nationalism.

Originally posted by jonsastar
The biggest killer on the planet is still religion, not patriot or nationalism.

The biggest killer is surely poverty?

Originally posted by max
The biggest killer is surely poverty?

That puts over breeding in poverty countries as killer number one then.

Forgot about that , sorry

Originally posted by jonsastar
That puts over breeding in poverty countries as killer number one then.

How ironic that you can ascribe 'breeding' (human reproduction) as a cause of death! A classic example of disappearing up one's rear end! The truth appears from your mouth and you see it as a problem! Yep, the biggest killer is death itself. Until one faces the inevitable and truly comes to terms with one's insignificance people will always look outside for reasons and blame for inner torment.

peace....

_=moodi

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
How ironic that you can ascribe 'breeding' (human reproduction) as a cause of death! A classic example of disappearing up one's rear end! The truth appears from your mouth and you see it as a problem! Yep, the biggest killer is death itself. Until one faces the inevitable and truly comes to terms with one's insignificance people will always look outside for reasons and blame for inner torment.

peace....

_=moodi


Eh :loopy:

I take it you disagree that having children when you cannot feed yourself is not a killer??

May be ingorance is the biggest killer.

People of faith, my man, if that is what you are referring to, have children and believe the Good Lord will provide, whether you like it or not and your views are sounding rather extreme. I am speaking from experience whereas you are procrastinating and generalising to the point of utter nonsense. Please forgive me if I take leave of this conversation...!

peace...

_=moodi

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
People of faith, my man, if that is what you are referring to, have children and believe the Good Lord will provide, whether you like it or not and your views are sounding rather extreme. I am speaking from experience whereas you are procrastinating and generalising to the point of utter nonsense. Please forgive me if I take leave of this conversation...!

peace...

_=moodi

eh :loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

I believe in God but believing in God doesnt stop people blowing each other and themselves up, and having child after child doesnt help in a poverty situation, putting your fingers in your ears and shouting extreme doesnt make me extreme , I am aware of what I see in the papers, and these things are the main killers on the planet , and my views stay the same until I see another reason for death, so far there is War , Religion, Poverty. mmmmm kay

Jonastar,

If you'd leave off the :loopy: emoticon for a bit, you'll understand that arrggghhh is right on the money (and hilarious to boot).

Maybe his username was born through too many conversations with those of your ilk.

Cheers

Peter

Originally posted by E-Man Groovin
Jonastar,

If you'd leave off the :loopy: emoticon for a bit, you'll understand that arrggghhh is right on the money (and hilarious to boot).

Maybe his username was born through too many conversations with those of your ilk.

Cheers

Peter

I use the :loopy: emicon because I did not like his personolisations.:thumbsup:

And what is my ilk,

Apparently Muslims class there babies name as the first gift they recieve in life.

So why is Scalextrix not a more popular name?

Originally posted by viking
So why is Scalextrix not a more popular name?

People spell it too many diffenent ways. If everyone got it right it would be top 20.

Scaletrics
Scalextrics
etc. etc. Splits it's impact

Originally posted by jonsastar
I use the :loopy: emicon because I did not like his personolisations.:thumbsup:

And what is my ilk,

Maybe he didn't like your ideas either but at least he didn't have to back it up with more :loopy: :loopy: :loopy: than words.

p.s. I think the ilk reference was regarding you generally as a 'git'.

faith doesn't fill your belly or imunise your children.

People who have a child knowing that they are already struggling to feed themselves are at the very least not thinking very clearly.

Poverty may be the biggest killer, calling death a killer is silly, death is the event, it's what happens, it's not what causes the event. Anyway, poverty, ie insufficient resources to feed yourself and/or stay healthy. If that's the situation then why have a child. The misguided belief that some 'God' will somehow provide for you.
If such a think happened then it would be easy to prove the existance of this mythical thing, which it isn't. Anyway, the God argument belongs in the God thread.

Overpopulation is generally considered a key reason to a following population crash, we can see it in animals and we can see it in humans.

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
People of faith, my man, if that is what you are referring to, have children and believe the Good Lord will provide, whether you like it or not and your views are sounding rather extreme. I am speaking from experience whereas you are procrastinating and generalising to the point of utter nonsense. Please forgive me if I take leave of this conversation...!

peace...

_=moodi

Ye of little faith! Speak for yourself!

I can tell you'll be a great spokesperson for the world one day... Your grandiose and sweeping, yet confusing and self opinionated efforts here indicate you have a high level of need to assert yourself and secretly imagine the world is actually listening to you through this forum. Problem with NGs is one often ends up talking to half-wits or know-it-alls! Little people with big egos and no real world experience makes city life so miserable sometimes...

"the god argument belongs on the god thread" - a typical get-out.

peace...

_=moodi

I don't see what all the fuss is about. After all, in a few hundred years we will all have darker skin, we will be worshipping Islam, and most male children will be named Mohammed. If you don't believe me ask yourself the following:

1. What is the world's fastest growing religion?
2. Is interracial dating becoming more common?
3. What races have the highest population growth?

With global population shifts as they trend today, how could this not be the probable outcome in Europe? I have relatives in Norway and they say there are now more Mosques than Churches in Oslo.

--Chris

typical scaremongering rubbish and very weak reasoning.
Secularism is growing steadily in the UK and Europe. In 100 years having a religion will be slightly odd as a only a small % of the population will claim to follow one.

Originally posted by Chicago
I don't see what all the fuss is about. After all, in a few hundred years we will all have darker skin, we will be worshipping Islam, and most male children will be named Mohammed. If you don't believe me ask yourself the following:

1. What is the world's fastest growing religion?
2. Is interracial dating becoming more common?
3. What races have the highest population growth?

With global population shifts as they trend today, how could this not be the probable outcome in Europe? I have relatives in Norway and they say there are now more Mosques than Churches in Oslo.

--Chris

Youre just wrong about one thing Chicago, it's going to be a lot less than 100 years.

Originally posted by poppins
Youre just wrong about one thing Chicago, it's going to be a lot less than 100 years.
poppins you are such an ass-tounding pillar of truth.

Originally posted by Chicago
I don't see what all the fuss is about. After all, in a few hundred years we will all have darker skin, we will be worshipping Islam, and most male children will be named Mohammed. If you don't believe me ask yourself the following:

1. What is the world's fastest growing religion?
2. Is interracial dating becoming more common?
3. What races have the highest population growth?

With global population shifts as they trend today, how could this not be the probable outcome in Europe? I have relatives in Norway and they say there are now more Mosques than Churches in Oslo.

--Chris

to actually answer your questions (for the uk)

1) lack of religion is fastest growing.
2) yes, but still rates far below intraracial relationships
3) the human race (actually it might be rats for all I know, but you see my point).

its great that Americans (or people living in America) are telling us to beware the growth of a religion in Britain and Europe, when they have just voted back in a fundamentalist Christian President who wants to ban abortion, ban gay marriages, undertakes Christian crusades and spends billions on weapons.

Take a look at yourself before telling us that the increased popularity of the name Mohammed is the end of the world.

As for interracial dating, I think we are seeing the down side of inter breeding on this thread!

Originally posted by sham71
when they have just voted back in a fundamentalist Christian President who wants to ban abortion, ban gay marriages, undertakes Christian crusades and spends billions on weapons.


I agree mostly with what you are saying, the only flaw with it is that if the voting system in the US was not so corupt, then they would have a different puppetresident.

Originally posted by sham71
its great that Americans (or people living in America) are telling us to beware the growth of a religion in Britain and Europe, when they have just voted back in a fundamentalist Christian President who wants to ban abortion, ban gay marriages, undertakes Christian crusades and spends billions on weapons.

Take a look at yourself before telling us that the increased popularity of the name Mohammed is the end of the world.

As for interracial dating, I think we are seeing the down side of inter breeding on this thread!

Thats why he's president and youre not !

Originally posted by venger
poppins you are such an ass-tounding pillar of truth.

Thank you venger, I knew you would agree with me.

Originally posted by Chicago
After all, in a few hundred years we will all have darker skin, we will be worshipping Islam, and most male children will be named Mohammed. If you don't believe me ask yourself the following:
1. What is the world's fastest growing religion?
2. Is interracial dating becoming more common?
3. What races have the highest population growth?
--Chris
1) Catholicism (I'd read) mainly due to South America, and I suppose large parts of Africa (and the Middle East)
2) Yes, of course, the world's getting smaller you know
3) China / India, I believe, neither of which are predominently Muslim (just in-case you didn't know) have the fastest growing populations.

So, no, I don't think everyone will be called Mohamed in a few years.

Oh, and if your wondering whose paying for all these population explosions, check the US balance of trade deficit, and who it's with.

Human Race, not Chinese Race, not White Race, not Indian Race and not Black Race.

It's the Human Race, it includes all of us.

Originally posted by sham71
As for interracial dating, I think we are seeing the down side of inter breeding on this thread!

Very Very funny, :lol::lol::lol:

Originally posted by Cyclone
Human Race, not Chinese Race, not White Race, not Indian Race and not Black Race.

It's the Human Race, it includes all of us.
Yes Cyclone, I saw your earlier post, and understood it, you don't have to repeat yourself.

I merely answered the question in the *way* it was asked, and if you noticed, I never said Chinese "race", or Indian "race", I said "China / India... ...have the fastest growing populations".

If you noticed, I was agreeing with your sentiments.