Do you get me, places such as Manchester, Leeds and Newcastle..

Whats your take on this?

Not another one... :rolleyes:

manchester any day of the week!!

Not another one... :rolleyes:

I know................. :(

Whats up fellas?

Whats up fellas?

There seems to be a lot of threads recently with members talking up Leeds and Manchester and bringing down Sheffield. What I don't understand with these people is why they don't move there.

Not getting at you in particular, just hope this thread doesn't go down the same route.

As a semi-outsider (I've only lived here for 3 years) I can tell you that there are places that are better than Sheffield (London, Manchester, Newcastle etc...) but there are significantly more worse places as well.

I have travelled all over the UK over the last 7 years and stayed over in various places. Trust me, be thankful that Sheffield is as good as it is.

The other man's grass is always greener.....

Not my saym so more a less, just hearsay from other people..

I went for a night out in Manchester and found that it was quite spread out!!! We enjoyed ourselves but struggled to find RnB places on a Friday night... Locals told me it was mostly dance music on a Fri... Huff!

It seems better because its unfamiliar.

That and manchester actually is loads better!

Problem is everything in Sheffield is all the same, except for the excellent pubs serving excellent beer on the periphery of the town centre and in the case of The Dev. Cat in it, everywhere else is so soul-less and sticky floored. Division Street used to be a little bit special but every bar is just an anonymous drinking hole now, usually pretty ropey music and equally ropey drinks and bar staff, unfortunately some places also have delusions of being somehow exclusive. Also the lack of restaurants and quieter bars means you tend to just get one crowd. I've lived here 7 years, I love the city, wouldn't wish to live in Leeds, Manchester or Newcastle but tend to avoid Sheffield City Centre for nights out these days.

Its not that they are better its just that you are too used to sheffield.

I have been, brum, leeds, swansea and essexy in the last few weeks and non of them compare really.
plug ftw, particularly urban gorilla and twisted ooooooo and kissdafunk

It seems better because its unfamiliar.

That and manchester actually is loads better!

Depends what sort of stuff you like! I've been to Manchester loads of times, and I've only come away a handful of times and though "that was a great night", and they were all Sequence at The Attic.

I'm off to a few of the Warehouse Project shows this December. Aphex Twin, Luke Vibert and Grant-Wilson Claridge. Yes sir.

We enjoyed ourselves but struggled to find RnB places.... Huff!

Yeah, Manchester is good for music :)

Do you get me, places such as Manchester, Leeds and Newcastle..

Whats your take on this?

I am sure people in these towns probably think Sheffield is better when they come here once in a blue moon. It's all about the change of scenery, surely. Going to the same places all the time is boring, I should know, do it all the time, but love it when I go to Leeds, Manchester, but still love Sheffield.:thumbsup:

Depends what sort of stuff you like! I've been to Manchester loads of times, and I've only come away a handful of times and though "that was a great night", and they were all Sequence at The Attic.

I'm off to a few of the Warehouse Project shows this December. Aphex Twin, Luke Vibert and Grant-Wilson Claridge. Yes sir.

Sankeys is good man you should try that if you're in Manchester again. Im supposed to be going to the Warehouse Proj with Soulwax and Boys Noize soon, I've not been before, what are they like? Obv looking forward to the DJs but just meant the venue and crowd. cheers

Sankeys is good man you should try that if you're in Manchester again. Im supposed to be going to the Warehouse Proj with Soulwax and Boys Noize soon, I've not been before, what are they like? Obv looking forward to the DJs but just meant the venue and crowd. cheers

I like Sankeys as a venue but not the events they put on. Although when I was there last I had an interesting conversation with a man from Burnley, who told me he was going to be the most famous poet in England within 5 years.

Warehouse Project has moved this year, and I haven't been to the current venue before. Last years show with LFO was brilliant though.

Maybe people in those cities actually show support for nights that try and do something different instead of constantly moanin how there's nothing to do.

Don't get me wrong - sheffield can be borrrrrrrrrrrrin sometimes but past and present there has been plenty of people in all spheres of music who have tried/are trying to give variety. If people don't support them then they get what they deserve.

:) Sounds a very negative post but i've been out loads in both leeds and manchester and once you get past the excitement of being in a different city for the night i've had equally good nights out in sheffield.

The other man's grass is always greener.....

but is it £10 an 1/8, sheffield rocks :P

I like Sankeys as a venue but not the events they put on. Although when I was there last I had an interesting conversation with a man from Burnley, who told me he was going to be the most famous poet in England within 5 years.

Warehouse Project has moved this year, and I haven't been to the current venue before. Last years show with LFO was brilliant though.

I heard that last years was good but didn't it get some stick for being a crap venue relying on big name DJs to pull in the punters? Just what I heard on the grapevine though, might be totally wrong. Looking forward to this one though, Boys Noize were mint at UG the other month and of course soulwax are legends.
I love Sankeys and the nights they put on, Axwell was amazing there, one of the best nights out ive had in a long while. The basement is a shining example of a perfect clubbing room! Great soundsystem, great lights, great layout etc etc.
And of course, crazy poets. Genius.

I heard that last years was good but didn't it get some stick for being a crap venue relying on big name DJs to pull in the punters? Just what I heard on the grapevine though, might be totally wrong. Looking forward to this one though, Boys Noize were mint at UG the other month and of course soulwax are legends.
I love Sankeys and the nights they put on, Axwell was amazing there, one of the best nights out ive had in a long while. The basement is a shining example of a perfect clubbing room! Great soundsystem, great lights, great layout etc etc.
And of course, crazy poets. Genius.

Not sure, I didn't go to any of the really big line-ups like Carl Cox. Not really my thing. I'd like to see Sven Vath, Vitalic and Miss Kittin this year on top of my Aphex Twin ticket. I'm crying already.

Depends what you want from a night out. I go to gigs in Manchester as alot of bands I like don't play here! But I'm from the country originally you can take the country out of the girl...So to me just being able to go out is great! I am into rock/indie music so I tend to go to the same places, not too many to choose from really now. I used to go up west street more but it is so expensive now!:roll:

I don't think Sheffields that bad at all, i keep seeing these posts on here, sounds like a lot of you are just bored of going to the same places all the time, getting a bit like that in Leeds a little bit at the moment for us who live here, my favourite club the Northern Light got shut down recently, this place could do with a new venue too.
Think yourselves lucky you don't live in somewhere like Hull or Blackpool!

I like Sheffield. I also like Newcastle, Nottingham, York, Liverpool and Manchester. I like to try and vary it as much as possible.

Sheffield is 3rd rate. anywhere else is bound to be better.

Sheffield is 3rd rate. anywhere else is bound to be better.

This is the general opinion of Sheffield clubbers and people that have been to Sheffield on a night out from out of town. We rarely get many people coming here on a weekend purely because there is a lack of variety of quality nights out. There are some decent nights on but there is not really any night that i can honestly say I am there every Saturday night because it is brilliant. Most of the premier nights in Sheffield is superstar dj led, which means there is no focus on club night at all. Leeds is saturated but at least you will get good nights there. I will be amongst the legion of Sheffielders descending on Manchester tonight, purely because club managers are simply not in connection with what Sheffield people want any more. The sad irony of this is, there is only club Vibe that has quality product (of its own kind) that has any attraction to anyone. The rest is all tried and tested average nights with little substance. There is not even a quality R&B or an old skool hip hop night available on Saturday. That is very poor for the city the size of Sheffield.:roll:

There is not even a quality R&B or an old skool hip hop night available on Saturday. That is very poor for the city the size of Sheffield.:roll:You have the knowledge, contacts, experience and records to make it work, why don't you get a night like this running?

Leeds!! Theres Yo!sushi On Briggat. :)

Sheffield is 3rd rate. anywhere else is bound to be better.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..............

You have the knowledge, contacts, experience and records to make it work, why don't you get a night like this running?

Because, I would want the full backing of the management and the authorities to do it. There is a political agenda that prevents this from happening in Sheffield. I have just been to Manchester (Sugar Lounge) and it was absolutely buzzing. The dj was below average but the clientelle were proper clubbers, there were a few celebs in there (Coronation street cast), it was rocking. Thats because the door men are very professional and are not scared of dealing with the thugs and chavs. In Sheffield door men can not deal with them and allow the thugs in the club. Thats why I would not want to do a proper cool night in Sheffield. Maybe in the future, you never know....;)

All sound reasons. Fair enough

Because, I would want the full backing of the management and the authorities to do it. There is a political agenda that prevents this from happening in Sheffield.

Blimey! Thats quite heavy duty.

Friends who put nights on just hire the venue, get some Djs, print some flyers, do some publicity and have a party...

Just curious to know what the political agenda is?

Blimey! Thats quite heavy duty.

Friends who put nights on just hire the venue, get some Djs, print some flyers, do some publicity and have a party...

Just curious to know what the political agenda is?

Because unfortunately the night would also attract the idiots, which happens time and time again. Sheffield door teams are probably the worst at dealing with these thugs and SYP are even more scared. Trust me, there is so much crap regarding this that it begs to differ. eg) Niche / Vibe has had so much violence and high volume of incidents that they have to have police surveying and it still kicks off. If it was any other promoter this would be long closed down a long time ago..... Because of who he is and his status and the amount of money he makes, police are happy for the events to go on. Which personally I am happy because all the idiots can go there, however there is always 1 or 2 that slip through the net and will spoil for the rest of the crowd. When I have done my events in the past, I have always attracted fit women and a high standard of entertainment be it party or underground. To have it spoiled by the 1 -5 out of 500 makes you wonder, someone is not doing there job properly. The doorman because they are too scared to deal with the idiots believing by letting them in for free will make them behave.
The sad irony when people do put the average night on, it attracts the violence then everyone says typical urban night. Nobody wants to deal with the problem. If the police can deal football hooligans then they can deal with the idiots as they are much smaller minority.

Want to learn another letter? I suggest "y" you retard.

Want to learn another letter? I suggest "y" you retard.

Very puzzling. :huh:
& retard is not a nice thing to say

Very puzzling. :huh:
& retard is not a nice thing to say

Sorry - this was directed at agent gypo - not at you. It is easy to be sarcastic but i notice that nothing sensible was posted. This is because Sheffield is 3rd rate and no matter what ppl think there is nothing to defend Sheffield with. There are no quality clubs here, no quality restaurants, pubs, shops, football teams etc. Most of the populus are 3rd rate and deserve what they get, overshadowed by Leeds and Manchester - two cities which knock spots off Sheffield in every way whether you like it or not - the money is not in Sheffield and money talks.

Sorry - this was directed at agent gypo - not at you. It is easy to be sarcastic but i notice that nothing sensible was posted. This is because Sheffield is 3rd rate and no matter what ppl think there is nothing to defend Sheffield with. There are no quality clubs here, no quality restaurants, pubs, shops, football teams etc. Most of the populus are 3rd rate and deserve what they get, overshadowed by Leeds and Manchester - two cities which knock spots off Sheffield in every way whether you like it or not - the money is not in Sheffield and money talks.

why don't you move if you feel that strongly? :huh:
I agree that Sheffield can't really be compared to Manchester but as for it not having any decent restaurants, clubs, pubs etc....********!!
I also find Sheffield folk to be very friendly, faaaaaaar friendlier than Leeds say, and that really makes the city :)

Sorry - this was directed at agent gypo - not at you. It is easy to be sarcastic but i notice that nothing sensible was posted. This is because Sheffield is 3rd rate and no matter what ppl think there is nothing to defend Sheffield with. There are no quality clubs here, no quality restaurants, pubs, shops, football teams etc. Most of the populus are 3rd rate and deserve what they get, overshadowed by Leeds and Manchester - two cities which knock spots off Sheffield in every way whether you like it or not - the money is not in Sheffield and money talks.


I'd be very surprised if you've actually been to that many places in Sheffield. It sounds like you've been out a few times, decided you don't like it, and now feel you have some kind of point to prove. And you aren't doing very well. Bless.

why don't you move if you feel that strongly? :huh:
I agree that Sheffield can't really be compared to Manchester but as for it not having any decent restaurants, clubs, pubs etc....********!!
I also find Sheffield folk to be very friendly, faaaaaaar friendlier than Leeds say, and that really makes the city :)

Thats pathetic retaliation to a thread.
I have to agree when it comes to going out Sheffield is 3rd rate compared to a lot of cities. I think this is not only due to the lack of clubs but the economy also. Considering Sheffield is the 4th largest city it has around 10 night clubs. Thats very poor.
Hull on a Friday night is far vibrant than Sheffield on Friday. Even Doncaster on Sunday puts Sheffield to Shame. The only saving grace is DQ on a sunday, even though it musically sucks, but people like it so I can not diss it.
Sheffield can not be compared to Liverpool, Newcastle, Nottingham and I even suspect Leicester. There is just better quality nights and more variety. I think thats the key word here variety....
The problem also in Sheffield is clubs do not work together to make Sheffield a better place. Everyone is competing against one another and fighting for trade, rather than working a strategy to get more people out and about.
The first thing Sheffield needs to do to is tidy up the city centre because it looks a disgrace with the road works.
Then tidy up the clientelle because far too many chavs are coming into the city centre when they are not even old enough or mature.
3rdly the door teams are crap, period.

Thats pathetic retaliation to a thread.
I have to agree when it comes to going out Sheffield is 3rd rate compared to a lot of cities. I think this is not only due to the lack of clubs but the economy also. Considering Sheffield is the 4th largest city it has around 10 night clubs. Thats very poor.
Hull on a Friday night is far vibrant than Sheffield on Friday. Even Doncaster on Sunday puts Sheffield to Shame. The only saving grace is DQ on a sunday, even though it musically sucks, but people like it so I can not diss it.
Sheffield can not be compared to Liverpool, Newcastle, Nottingham and I even suspect Leicester. There is just better quality nights and more variety. I think thats the key word here variety....
The problem also in Sheffield is clubs do not work together to make Sheffield a better place. Everyone is competing against one another and fighting for trade, rather than working a strategy to get more people out and about.
The first thing Sheffield needs to do to is tidy up the city centre because it looks a disgrace with the road works.
Then tidy up the clientelle because far too many chavs are coming into the city centre when they are not even old enough or mature.
3rdly the door teams are crap, period.

Jesus Christ G you don't half like to try and get people riled! ;)
Aaaaaaaanyway, without biting, the point I was trying to make was that beegee doesn't seem to see ANY good in Sheffield when to be fair, I've lived throughout the UK and have stopped here for almost ten years so I think the city has a lot to offer.
ok so the nightlife aint that great, the music your into is badly represented, but there's a lot of **** going on thats really exciting at the moment...some of these nights run by people you know!!
I don't see whats pathetic :huh:

...Vibe has had so much violence and high volume of incidents that they have to have police surveying and it still kicks off.
So actually how 'much violence' has kicked off down there, forgetting rumours etc.? Let's have the facts then. :roll:

So actually how 'much violence' has kicked off down there, forgetting rumours etc.? Let's have the facts then. :roll:

Mez, come on mate show some common sense. We all know that Vibe has had a reputation in its shady past. Even back in the Niche days. Things are better but I don't need to get in to a argument about it being rough because, it is unfortunately. Only 2% of 4/4 garage now I really like but the rest of it lacks creativity and it reflects the crowd I'm afraid. Bring back Tuff Jam and Todd Edwards please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ G you don't half like to try and get people riled! ;)
Aaaaaaaanyway, without biting, the point I was trying to make was that beegee doesn't seem to see ANY good in Sheffield when to be fair, I've lived throughout the UK and have stopped here for almost ten years so I think the city has a lot to offer.
ok so the nightlife aint that great, the music your into is badly represented, but there's a lot of **** going on thats really exciting at the moment...some of these nights run by people you know!!
I don't see whats pathetic :huh:

Hey, not trying riled you up. Just thought the name calling was out of order.
As you are not from Sheffield you would not know the frustrations of us born n bred to see our city under achieve. Dont get me wrong in the clubbing scene we was once up there at the top but since early 2000 we have dropped in the league.
Sorry but even the people I know that are doing things that are tried and tested and lacks creativity.
You hit the nail on the head though, I am into a lot of music that is badly represented. (Deep house, old skool house, Reggae, underground hip hop, rare groove, jazz, neo soul) Where can I find that on a weekend in a quality club. All the cities I have mentioned earlier represent this strong. Unlike Sheffield.
I meet Sheffield people everytime I play in Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Nottingham and they moan the same old arguement about Sheffield. The fact is there are so many people venturing out of town purely based on this fact.

There are some good things about Sheffield. For instance, few people who live here are aware that we have the largest theatre complex in the UK outside London. In a way agent gypo is right - my desire to go out now is fast disappearing, but is this cause or effect? I certainly don't feel that I have a point to prove by saying Sheffield is 3rd rate. I just think it is true and certainly the economy has a lot to do with that. There are a lot of people who look at Sheffield with rose tinted glasses. Incidentally Del Monte has hit the nail on the head, I am actually so fed up with Sheffield that I am going to live elsewhere as soon as I can. This is not due to getting a good night out though - it is the demise of my home city in general so not completely relevant just to this thread. Sorry if I riled anyone - suppose I can be a grumpy bugalugs sometimes.

fair play if thats how you feel beegee and best of luck to you :)

G, think we're getting our wires crossed cos there was no name calling...the ******** at the end was 'Bo!!ocks' not anything directed at the lad personally.
Didn't wade into this on a purely nightlife tip anyway but can see what your saying. There's plenty of nights I buzz off in Sheffield but yep, can see that what your into is underepresented.
Keep on keeping on fella :)

Mez, come on mate show some common sense. We all know that Vibe has had a reputation in its shady past. Even back in the Niche days. Things are better but I don't need to get in to a argument about it being rough because, it is unfortunately. Only 2% of 4/4 garage now I really like but the rest of it lacks creativity and it reflects the crowd I'm afraid. Bring back Tuff Jam and Todd Edwards please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My point was that 'violence' possibly wasn't the best word to use. ;) And I agree, Tuff Jam and Todd Edwards are top producers. Not everything that is coming out now will be your cup of tea, it sure isn't mine, but there's still a very varied selection of music being produced if you look hard enough into the scene, alot of which reflects older styles which both you and I still love. I just think it's very easy for some people to over generalise when it comes to Speed Garage.

I still love Leeds!

I still love Leeds!

I can relate. As a dj I owe a lot of debt and gratitude to the Leeds promoters and clubs that have given me the opportunity to express myself musically. Something that my home town have failed miserably.

My point was that 'violence' possibly wasn't the best word to use. ;) And I agree, Tuff Jam and Todd Edwards are top producers. Not everything that is coming out now will be your cup of tea, it sure isn't mine, but there's still a very varied selection of music being produced if you look hard enough into the scene, alot of which reflects older styles which both you and I still love. I just think it's very easy for some people to over generalise when it comes to Speed Garage.Speed garage is like marmite though. you either get it and love it or you don't. You know that for me personally I think theres a tiny percentage thats actually good and worth hearing and the rest is just soulless badly produced unimaginative rubbish. You can argue that about any genre but SG really should be more popular than it is because girls usually love it but the reputation of Vibe puts people off. Wether that reputation is deserved is an argument for another thread.

All of that said though Vibe is extremely important to sheffields clubbing scene. there is no other club in sheffield that attracts clubbers from all over the country on a weekly basis. There is also not many other clubs in sheffield that are as full as Vibe on a weekly basis.

Speed garage is like marmite though. you either get it and love it or you don't. You know that for me personally I think theres a tiny percentage thats actually good and worth hearing and the rest is just soulless badly produced unimaginative rubbish. You can argue that about any genre but SG really should be more popular than it is because girls usually love it but the reputation of Vibe puts people off. Wether that reputation is deserved is an argument for another thread.

All of that said though Vibe is extremely important to sheffields clubbing scene. there is no other club in sheffield that attracts clubbers from all over the country on a weekly basis. There is also not many other clubs in sheffield that are as full as Vibe on a weekly basis.

Spot on. Worddddddd to the mutha

Ha, Steve, just noticed your location... 'Quahog'... love it! You got season six yet?! ;)

got it today! i've also 'acquired' the star wars episode!

i might be wrong, but is another factor in this that the transport between these other cities that people cite as better and sheffield, is rubbish!

not that the train companies are likely to run later services in order to transport people who've been out to bars and clubs.

how can people travel to Sheffield for a night out if the only feasable mode of transport is by car?

*EDIT* meant to say that i think it's unlikely train companies would put on extra services SPECIFICALLY for people coming back from a night out.

I heard that last years was good but didn't it get some stick for being a crap venue relying on big name DJs to pull in the punters? Just what I heard on the grapevine though, might be totally wrong. Looking forward to this one though, Boys Noize were mint at UG the other month and of course soulwax are legends.
I love Sankeys and the nights they put on, Axwell was amazing there, one of the best nights out ive had in a long while. The basement is a shining example of a perfect clubbing room! Great soundsystem, great lights, great layout etc etc.
And of course, crazy poets. Genius.

Sorry ended up on wrong thread some how!!!!

i might be wrong, but is another factor in this that the transport between these other cities that people cite as better and sheffield, is rubbish!

not that the train companies are likely to run later services in order to transport people who've been out to bars and clubs.

how can people travel to Sheffield for a night out if the only feasable mode of transport is by car?

*EDIT* meant to say that i think it's unlikely train companies would put on extra services SPECIFICALLY for people coming back from a night out.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. There is a late night train service return Manchester and Leeds. I know because I caught it to Manchester last week amongst a host of many Sheffielders. Not many clubbers want to come to Sheffield unless they want Vibe (which most go by car) or Embrace.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. There is a late night train service return Manchester and Leeds. I know because I caught it to Manchester last week amongst a host of many Sheffielders. Not many clubbers want to come to Sheffield unless they want Vibe (which most go by car) or Embrace.

Why the hell would anyone travel from another city to go to Embrace?

Why the hell would anyone travel from another city to go to Embrace?

Believe me they do get there fair share on a saturday night. It must be the quality cheddar thats on offer.