GRRRRRRR
My partner has just come home after collecting some pikelets which he denies are real.
A pikelet to me, as a real Sheffield lass, is a round bread like thing with lots of holey bits in the top, should be toasted with butter, cheese, jam or whatever melted on top, generally in abundance. Not the big round flat things with holes in which go all floppy at the first sign of butter. This, to me, is an inferior pikelet.
Now as he isn't from Sheffield he says they are crumpets. :rant:
I've have a vast amount of recent conversations with people from Sheffield who agree with me, in Sheffield, these delicacies are PIKELETS. I don't mean what it says on the pack, I'm not interested in the techinical terms, are these items pikelets to Sheffielders or not.
Please help me settle this argument cos it's doing my NUT. :loopy:

P.s aware there has been similar thread in past but it seems inconclusive to me.

I'm from London originally (I've lived in Doncaster / Sheffield for two years now) and personally, I've always called them Pikelets...although thats probably because my stepfather called them Pikelets (he's a Northern lad through and through). Most people in the South do call them Crumpets.

Pikelets (but I did live down south for a few years. Isn't crumpet a Lancastrian phrase?:suspect:

I agree with you Zebra,
Pikelets...

To my mind, crumpets are solid thin little cakes which you can cut in half and toast and have with butter.

55 yrsago I used to come out of school on Cavendish St, walk down Division St to the pikelet shop and buy one hot off the hotplate for a halfpenny.
I'm afraid they were large, round, flat and floppy.
Sorry
hazel

Contrary to popular belief, pikelets and crumpets are not the same thing.

Pikelets are exactly the same as crumpets, in size, texture and taste but are more flat, as if they haven't risen.

I'm sure Asda sell both.

im 18 lived in same house all me life in sheffield!
n i call them crumpets!!

always have, always will

Don't forget "oat cakes" these were big and floppy

well i am a southern and to me they are crumpets, my husband from sheffield calls them pikelets, other differences which call arguements are fishcakes (me) rissoles (him) and breadcakes(him) baps(me). now we are living in sheffield for the first time i find the whole force of his family in arguement against me i think i'm losing!

Originally posted by alchresearch
Contrary to popular belief, pikelets and crumpets are not the same thing.

Pikelets are exactly the same as crumpets, in size, texture and taste but are more flat, as if they haven't risen.

I'm sure Asda sell both.


but arent they scotch pancakes?

PIKELETS!...have been and always will be

sheff born and bred
aunty witch xx

Originally posted by gracejanet
other differences which call arguements are fishcakes (me) rissoles (him) and breadcakes(him) baps(me).

:) Until I came to Sheffield I had never heard anyone call a bread roll a 'bread cake'. It seems to be a term unique to Sheffield too rather than the North in general, in Doncaster they are baps or rolls.

I always thought that crumpets were the "fat" round ones, and pikelets were also holey, but thin.

But then, I'm from the other side of the penines originally.

When I first came here, I had, and still do, a problem with "breadcakes"... It's a barmcake, and when you go to the chippy, you have a "chip barm", not "chip butty" as this suggests it is between two slices of bread!:suspect:

but Tracie, hon - a breadcake isn't a bread roll anyway, could get away with calling it a teacake if ur from Barnsley i suppose .... we called soft bread rolls, bridge rolls don't ask why ... pikelets were the fat round ones in our house and the flat floppy ones, weren't they oatcakes? Crumpets were sort of bready with no holes, i think they're really english muffins ... but deffo not pikelets .... (or is all this false memory syndrome ... )

LOL I guess I am oversimplifying it all a bit - 'thats a bit round thing made of bread, it must be a bread roll', etc :D :D It must be a Southern thing! :D

who started this off?? grrrrrrrrrrrr!

never thought of one for years and now i'm desparate for a pikelet slathered in butter with my mum's homemade jam on it .... yummmmm!

Pikelets are the flat thin versions..Crumpets are the round ones quite thick...this is always how it has been to me.

Here is an Aussie recipe for 'pikelets' and to confuse the matter even further, when my mother made something like these she called them "dropped scones"

http://sammy.katgyrl.com/pikelet.html

Always called pikelets when I was a kid (1950's) although I reckon it's because my mum didn't want me to hear the word crumpet.

All major Supermarkets do sell both. Crumpets have more depth and piklets are much thinner.

I agree that a pikelet is thinner and a crumpet is the fatter one that I love with melted cheese and mustard on, ummmm, yummy!

I was originally from the Midlands and my mum called the deeper ones pikelets but I think I've formed my own conclusions as the years think she's wrong!

If a pikelet is the deeper one, that would mean the thinner one has no name!

I still remember my confusion in the sandwich shop when the lady asked me if I wanted french...

I always called them pikelets, but what's a pike?

I now live in Ashbourne on the Derbyshire/Staffordshire border. They both have oatcakes, but they are different. Both are the size of plates, but the Derbyshire ones are a bit thicker.

being from london and i have always called them crumpets (whats it say on the packets ask yourself), same as bread cake i call them rolls.

Originally posted by Caz1
Pikelets are the flat thin versions..Crumpets are the round ones quite thick...this is always how it has been to me.

yeah- me too!! :d

Pikelets are deffo the thinner but larger one's!!!

ive searched high and low ...and sad to say only thing i found was this..look for crumpet!!
http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Britain/Food/Teatime.htm#Bread

ive always called them Pikelets too!!!

I say pikelet for them both. Crumpet sounds stupid.

Yep, crumpet is a silly southern word, pikelets are the real deal :lol: and let none from beyond t' boundaries say t'otherwise :)

I've never heard of a pikelet, that sounds like some sort of baby fish or something. It's definately a crumpet.

You crayzee dee-dars!

Originally posted by ladyovmanor
being from london and i have always called them crumpets (whats it say on the packets ask yourself), same as bread cake i call them rolls.

but how can a breadcake being large and circular in a flat sort of way, be a roll which by its very name is a ROLL???? and if you call a breadcake a roll, what would you call a bread roll then?

when I first lived in London in the late sixties, I remember going into a rather twee bakers on Putney High St and asking for breadcakes, the assistant (in black dress and white pinny) said "you mean a bread roll madam" getting out a tray of mingy little bridge rolls ... they didn't have even what they call yorkshire baps in those days, it was a long time ago .... :D

(what with pikelets/ crumpets/oatcakes/ muffins never mind breadcakes/teacakes/breadrolls, ruby is getting very confused by all this and just glad she doesn't work in a bakers)

Totally agree with Zebra - born and brought up in Sheffield, I've never known any other name but pikelets - only came across crumpets when supermarket shopping took us over and then when I went to live in the Midlands. Pikelet is not used in Birmingham, which is a real shame as it would sound great in a Brummie accent. However, I've taught my children (born in Birmingham) to say 'pikelet' and they still do. As far as oatcakes are concerned, Yorkshire ones are definitely the best - Staffordshire version are too thin and a bit too sweet

Originally posted by marycrookes
Don't forget "oat cakes" these were big and floppy

Big and floppy ... LOL :lol:

As for me, i call em crumpets. I seem to remember calling them pikelets at some point though.

A pikelet sounds like a small scouse child.

I'll stop with the jokes now, but I've really never heard of such a ridiculous word :D ! It's not even in the dictionary.

I've always called the 'fat' ones crumpets as well.

I work for a tour operator out in Mallorca and we were having this very conversation the other day at lunch in the kitchen. I am originally from Hillsborough and to me they are pikelets. However one of the other girls is from Notts and she knows them at crumpets. The larger, thinner ones are oakcakes.

They're crumpets god damn!

crumpets are smaller in diameter but fatter
pikelets are as above but as if they were squashed
both are delicious and now I am craving some!

personally i only eat pikelets top fodder

As someone's already said they're two different things!!!!! Not two words for the same thing, one word for one thing (pikelet, smaller and thinner) and one word for another (crumpet, bigger and fatter)!! I'm sure I've even read something on the different history behind the two...ahem, I am a history geek, I shallbe leaving now... :D

Pikelets are the flat thin versions..Crumpets are the round ones quite thick...this is always how it has been to me.

Same here, that's what I've always thought too. Pikelets are better though as they don't take as long to warm up and go crispier as they're much thinner. :D

I'd like to see Sheffield Forum divided in half. On one side, the pikelet buffoons can enjoy their pikelet talk all day, on the other side, the much more intelligent crumpet champions can exchange their worldly views on politics, delivered with razor-sharp wit.

oatcakes are large and floppy and brown (as they are made from oats)...?

mystery solved? link (http://www.greatbritishkitchen.co.uk/cg_muffins.htm)

Pikelets...and I hail from the Midlands

Yes Zebra, you are right they are Pikelets! End of story.

Yes Zebra, you are right they are Pikelets! End of story.

It says freak in your name, and you've underlined it with this post.

im 18 lived in same house all me life in sheffield!
n i call them crumpets!!

always have, always will

bless me young cotton socks lol

Still call them crumpets :P

God we always have this debate......def crumpets!

Pikelets...every time. Nuff said......

i've always lived in sheffield and i ahve always called them crumpets!!

i love proving people wrong hehe,

The Crumpet

The crumpet is circular in shape (usually; long and square varieties also exist) and has a distinctive flat top covered in small holes. It has a resilient, slightly spongy texture and a rather bland flavour which, when eaten hot with a topping (usually butter), together make crumpets crisp on the outside and very succulent on the inside. Crumpets are still one of the mainstays of the English breakfast table. They differ from the English Muffin[1], which is cooked on both sides, in that the dough is usually more moist to start with, so that a muffin ring may be required to hold the batter's shape.

Crumpets are served hot, usually with butter. Other popular accompaniments include jam, Marmite, honey, or cheese. Typically, several crumpets are bought together and toasted.

A pikelet is similar to a crumpet, but much thinner and sometimes irregularly shaped. (However, the meaning of pikelet varies: in some regions of Britain it traditionally refers to a crumpet, muffin or other teacake. In Australia and New Zealand it refers to a Scotch pancake.)

A buttered crumpet.Delia Smith lists the following ingredients as being sufficient for 16 crumpets:

12 fl oz milk (355 ml)
1 tbsp yeast
1 tsp caster sugar
1 tsp salt
8 oz plain flour (227 g)
It is worth noting that the recipe contains no egg, and that most variations contain no sugar.

The crumpet should not be confused with the sweeter English muffin.

I've never heard of a pikelet, that sounds like some sort of baby fish or something. It's definately a crumpet.

You crayzee dee-dars!

I'm with you on this one :thumbsup:

:) Until I came to Sheffield I had never heard anyone call a bread roll a 'bread cake'. It seems to be a term unique to Sheffield too rather than the North in general, in Doncaster they are baps or rolls.

In Barnsley, they're teacakes! Spare a thought for me - Im a Southerner - and in London they're rolls, and work in Sheffield where they're breadcakes. AAAAAAAGH! :hihi:

As to crumpets or pikelets - they're CRUMPETS!!!! :thumbsup:

well i call them crumpets im from the south and believe me the lingo up here is so much diffrent to down kent.

When someone first asked me to mash a cuppa i didn't have a clue what they where bloody on about.
You dont have savaloy sold here either in sheffield in the chip shop.
But then again in kent they don't sell mushy peas.
it's like two diffrent worlds.
charlie

I was going to post asking the question, whats the difference, if any, between pikelets and crumpets, did a search and found this. I call them both, and ive lived here all my 40yrs.

it's wherever you come from ... like the old what is a"Fishcake' and "Rissole" debate. Most of the country determine a rissole as having savoury meat in it ... not in Sheffield though ... it contains fish, potato and parsley here .... Sheffield people also tend to call a swede a turnip? .... as for Crumpet's, when did you last see them being sold as "pikelet'? arghhhh!!

Pikelets! I have had numerous arguments with my OH (who's from Cumbria) about this! :rant:

:D

We always called the fat round holey ones Pikelets, even though it said "Crumpets" on the packet.

PIKELETS. :thumbsup:

Pikelets. The ultimate comfort food. Yum.

what i call a pikelet my other half calls a crumpet but then again he is a southern softie

I don't care what the chuffing wrapper says, they're pikelets. Crumpets don't exist. Thick ones are pikelets, and thin ones are thin pikelets.

As for breadcakes,rolls etc, they are all COBS.

Round cobs, flat cobs, crusty cobs etc.

Mancs with their barms can f off.

Isn't a crumpet the one with the short skirt?

Pikelets was what I was taught they were called, but not sure if this is the right spelling, doesn't look right somehow.

But, I love them.............

Pikelets. 100%!

I don't care what the chuffing wrapper says, they're pikelets. Crumpets don't exist. Thick ones are pikelets, and thin ones are thin pikelets.

As for breadcakes,rolls etc, they are all COBS.

Round cobs, flat cobs, crusty cobs etc.

Mancs with their barms can f off.

And breathe.............
I can see you're a man who holds firm views on this weighty topic.... What's your position on the scon or scone debate?

Definitely scones, but having a sheffield accent it comes out as "scoo-erns". :D

Definitely scones, but having a sheffield accent it comes out as "scoo-erns". :D

Would you agree with me that the pikelet is the small round item about 3/4 of an inch thick with holes in iit and the oatcake is a flatter version rather like a pikelet that's fallen afoul of a steamroller and there is no such creature as a crumpet?

Definitely.

I worked with a lass who refused to believe that the big flat ones were called oatcakes. That was until she got sent to our Stoke depot and at morning break the guys asked her if she fancied an oatcake from the snap van.

Pikelets are the 3/4 inch thick things that absorb their weight in butter then proceed to squirt it straight through the underside when you bite into them.

What I'm thinking of doing is taking a permanent marker pen to the supermarket and scrawling "PIKELETS!!!!" all over the wrappers where it erroneously says "crumpets".

Definitely.

I worked with a lass who refused to believe that the big flat ones were called oatcakes. That was until she got sent to our Stoke depot and at morning break the guys asked her if she fancied an oatcake from the snap van.

Pikelets are the 3/4 inch thick things that absorb their weight in butter then proceed to squirt it straight through the underside when you bite into them.

What I'm thinking of doing is taking a permanent marker pen to the supermarket and scrawling "PIKELETS!!!!" all over the wrappers where it erroneously says "crumpets".

Absolutely, people who call them pikelets crumpets are heretics and no better than a bunch of southerners :hihi:

Definitely scones, but having a sheffield accent it comes out as "scoo-erns". :D

That made me spit my tea out LOL!!!

The fat ones are crumpets!!! Sake.

Piklets: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mE0qQi6Datw/SCzgdlKU_RI/AAAAAAAAANc/1zt9hFbR_Oc/s400/pikelets%2Band%2Bcurd.jpg

Crumpet: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JJ0HA0BHaN4/SSmqOiujRzI/AAAAAAAAB08/-Z-P07lHfT4/s400/crumpet.jpg

My girlfriend is the same as you, calls crumpets piklets. Look at the packet, it clearly says, crumpet, or piklet. Educate yourself!

Please don't pass your misinformation onto the next generation.

True Sheffields call the fat ones crumpets, inbreds call them piklets.

The fat ones are crumpets!!! Sake.

Piklets: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mE0qQi6Datw/SCzgdlKU_RI/AAAAAAAAANc/1zt9hFbR_Oc/s400/pikelets%2Band%2Bcurd.jpg

Crumpet: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JJ0HA0BHaN4/SSmqOiujRzI/AAAAAAAAB08/-Z-P07lHfT4/s400/crumpet.jpg

My girlfriend is the same as you, calls crumpets piklets. Look at the packet, it clearly says, crumpet, or piklet. Educate yourself!

Please don't pass your misinformation onto the next generation.

Will nobody think of the children???? :hihi::hihi:

I am when I say it's pikelets and not crumpets, generations yet unborn will learn that it's PIKLETS and that our generation sacrificed much [admittedly mostly the crumpet heretics were the ones sacrificed] so that they could eat their pikelets in peace.

Lets be honest, pikelets are round, about 75mm in diameter, full of small holes and when toasted and covered in lurpack are a delight to eat. on the other hand, crumpet is what you used to chase on a saturday night at the locarno, these were lovely things, depending on how much you had drink, dancing aroud handbags until you got there.

Contrary to popular belief, pikelets and crumpets are not the same thing.

Pikelets are exactly the same as crumpets, in size, texture and taste but are more flat, as if they haven't risen.

I'm sure Asda sell both.

Correct.

Pikelets are the flat thin things and usually say pikelets on the packet and crumpets are smaller and deeper and also say crumpets on the packet.;)

Sorry I know this starting a old post up again but can somebody please help me out here, I want to make some Pikelets and found a few recipes but its the same ingredients for scotch pancakes, Does anybody have a good recipe for Pikelets please? all this crumpet/pikelet/scotch pancake/oat cake is so confusing :confused: Also can they be stored and reheated ? or even frozen like pancakes? Many thanks in advance H:hihi:

Hi mym8scallmeh! Crumpets are pikelets (http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/ist2_1331502-crumpet.jpg) that live south of Watford, and are nothing like Scotch pancakes (https://morningnoonandnight.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/pancakes.jpg) which are soft, sweet and often have currants in 'em. Oatcakes (https://cardiffcooks.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/oatcakes1-300x225.jpg) are a bit like pikelets as they have holes but are bigger, thinner and, well, oaty. Scottish oatcakes (or rough oatcakes (https://katyboo1.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/rough-oat-cakes.jpg)) are small and hard.

But as you found, some misguided people confuse Scottish pancakes with pikelets - see here (http://www.cuisinedumonde.com/pikelets.html) for example.. Forget this - here's a recipe (http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/6039/crumpets) for pikelets, alias crumpets. You should have no trouble storing and re-heating them..:)

I come from Aberdeen and we call them thurlbards,a derivation from Norse.

When I was little, we used to call them pikelets - (Derbyshire born and bred). - even though it said crumpets on the wrapper.

I never liked them, and the mere thought of eating one now makes me gip! (or is it gyp?) :gag:

GRRRRRRR
My partner has just come home after collecting some pikelets which he denies are real.
A pikelet to me, as a real Sheffield lass, is a round bread like thing with lots of holey bits in the top, should be toasted with butter, cheese, jam or whatever melted on top, generally in abundance. Not the big round flat things with holes in which go all floppy at the first sign of butter. This, to me, is an inferior pikelet.
Now as he isn't from Sheffield he says they are crumpets. :rant:
I've have a vast amount of recent conversations with people from Sheffield who agree with me, in Sheffield, these delicacies are PIKELETS. I don't mean what it says on the pack, I'm not interested in the techinical terms, are these items pikelets to Sheffielders or not.
Please help me settle this argument cos it's doing my NUT. :loopy:

P.s aware there has been similar thread in past but it seems inconclusive to me.

pikelets rock
crumpets suck

crumpets have a lovely pikelety outer layer but then gross doughy middle

but I am not a sheffielder!

Better still l prefer a muffin.

Pikelets or crumpets?
Well, I guess that a pikelet must be a little pike (in which case a crumpet must be- what?)

I thought Pikelets were gypsy's children.

Hi mym8scallmeh! Crumpets are pikelets (http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/ist2_1331502-crumpet.jpg) that live south of Watford, and are nothing like Scotch pancakes (https://morningnoonandnight.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/pancakes.jpg) which are soft, sweet and often have currants in 'em. Oatcakes (https://cardiffcooks.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/oatcakes1-300x225.jpg) are a bit like pikelets as they have holes but are bigger, thinner and, well, oaty. Scottish oatcakes (or rough oatcakes (https://katyboo1.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/rough-oat-cakes.jpg)) are small and hard.

But as you found, some misguided people confuse Scottish pancakes with pikelets - see here (http://www.cuisinedumonde.com/pikelets.html) for example.. Forget this - here's a recipe (http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/6039/crumpets) for pikelets, alias crumpets. You should have no trouble storing and re-heating them..:)
I would like to thank everybody who posted back. Many thanks Hillsbrough for the recipe, now they didnt come out quite how I expect but then my attempts at cooking rarely does:hihi: but they tasted lovely and the kids really enjoyed them and nobody has gone down with food poisoning so all is good :hihi:

I would like to thank everybody who posted back. Many thanks Hillsbrough for the recipe, now they didnt come out quite how I expect but then my attempts at cooking rarely does:hihi: but they tasted lovely and the kids really enjoyed them and nobody has gone down with food poisoning so all is good :hihi:

oppps sorry i mean Hillsbro :|:hihi:

I would like to thank everybody who posted back. Many thanks Hillsbrough for the recipe, now they didnt come out quite how I expect but then my attempts at cooking rarely does:hihi: but they tasted lovely and the kids really enjoyed them and nobody has gone down with food poisoning so all is good :hihi:Hi - glad they went down well! I'll ask Mrs hillsbro (http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/Family/FirstPhotos129.jpg) (who is of course the world's best cook.;)) to make some and we'll see how they turn out. My mouth is watering already.....:)

Even though I've only seen em sold as crumpets I've always called em pikelets (the thick round holey ones).

Oatcakes are flat and larger than pikelets (a right pain to put in the toaster, yep, I've tried)

A breadcake is, well, a breadcake. A teacake's got fruit in it.

Fishcake is fish between 2 slices of tater in batter.

Rissole is minced fish with herbs in breadcrumbs.

Scallops are deep fried taters in batter.

Scraps are left over bits of batter mmmmmmmmmm

Must be bored tonight:hihi:

i agree Zebra pikelets my wife comes from london and says they are grumpets lod of of crumbs

Pikelets are thin, crumpets are fatter, therefore allowing more butter to soak in. I used to be able to find cheese pikelets at the local bakers.

I thought Pikelets were gypsy's children.


Laughed so much my false teeth fell out.

Regards

Angel.:help:

Even though I've only seen em sold as crumpets I've always called em pikelets (the thick round holey ones).

Oatcakes are flat and larger than pikelets (a right pain to put in the toaster, yep, I've tried)

A breadcake is, well, a breadcake. A teacake's got fruit in it.

Fishcake is fish between 2 slices of tater in batter.

Rissole is minced fish with herbs in breadcrumbs.

Scallops are deep fried taters in batter.

Scraps are left over bits of batter mmmmmmmmmm

Must be bored tonight:hihi:



Dead on the money, describes them all spot on.

Regards

Angel.

Even though I've only seen em sold as crumpets I've always called em pikelets (the thick round holey ones).

Oatcakes are flat and larger than pikelets (a right pain to put in the toaster, yep, I've tried)

A breadcake is, well, a breadcake. A teacake's got fruit in it.

Fishcake is fish between 2 slices of tater in batter.

Rissole is minced fish with herbs in breadcrumbs.

Scallops are deep fried taters in batter.

Scraps are left over bits of batter mmmmmmmmmm

Must be bored tonight:hihi:

We always used to fry them in dripping.

I had a buttered pikelet for supper and I've just had two oatcakes and a fried egg for breakast. Absolutely scrumptious!.:love: Never mind the cholesterol...:o

Crumpets! Don't like the sound of pikelets!