View Full Version : Sheffield - a city of change
okka north 09-09-2007, 19:26 I moved to Sheffield in 1999 and since then it has been roadworks, scaffolding and diversions and it continues. I am curious, do other people living in Sheffield welcome all the changes or modernisation or refurbishment of Sheffield or do you miss how it was? Have the changes brought good but left behind important history or memories of the city? Just curious. Of what I have seen it seems to be out with the old and in with the new. I wonder if in years time, a real sense of regret will happen that they have chosen to knock down so many old buildings.
No I think its a good thing. Whilst we have a strong history which should rightly be remembered, change is happening everywhere and it should be something which is embraced as an opportunity, not resisted because we're stuck in our ways.
Greybeard 09-09-2007, 20:15 I wonder if in years time, a real sense of regret will happen that they have chosen to knock down so many old buildings.
A lot of the old buildings in the town centre area were not worth saving, although it was a great mistake to replace most of Union street and Norfolk street.
To me it's a bit strage to see the cityscape changing on almost a weekly basis. I remember the Burton's building on the corner of High street and Angel street (now Primark) was a derelict burnt-out shell for twenty years before anything was done about it. In fact for most of my childhood and teenage years the city centre was mostly bomb sites waiting for something to happen to them.
handypandy 09-09-2007, 20:38 I think, in a few years time, some might have regrets about the number of city centre flats that seem to spring up on every available corner. There surely must be a saturation point. I would have thought that they would have a limited market. Is this city living a fad? wont they all want 3bed det. when the kids come along?
chris101 09-09-2007, 21:04 Welcome to Sheffield it's been like it for the last 15 years. You should have been hear when the put the tram system in.
Welcome to Sheffield it's been like it for the last 15 years. You should have been hear when the put the tram system in.
That and the demolition of kelvin flats decimated the Langsett Rd shops. But its ok, because on paper we have a 'clean' method of public transport...
For me it is mixed feelings. I moved to Sheffield as a teenager in the early 90s and remember what a $hithole it was. There has always been a fantastic spirit in the city but that was not mirrored by development. I was always surprised that there were so few tall buildings in such a large city. I was also not keen on the city centre. It was horrible.
It is not that much better these days. I rarely shop in the city centre because it is so hard to park and the shops are not brilliant.
I like the new train station area.
I like the peace gardens, winter gardens and the buildings around them. The new development around Cole Bros also looks good.
In terms of the buidings I have mixed feelings. I actually studied the History of Architecture and feel that there are some buildings that are being demolished for the ne Cole Bros development that should not be for their architectural value. I forget the street name but the one that has a curved facade. I do, however understand that the layout of the centre has to change to enhance the appeal to consumers.
It does make me giggle sometimes when you see old buildings lasting the test of time when the likes of the wedding cake and eggbox (both disgusting) being demolished after less than half a century. Fashion is not always a good thing in architecture. I a gree with a previous post that the city centre flats are being saturated. They are not aesthetically striking nor that well built. I fear they are the slums of the future.
Park Hill flats I have mixed feelings about. Yes it is an eyesore. Infact it is one of the worst buildings in the country. In alot of ways it should have been demolished. It would have sent a signal to the rest of the country that the city is changing. however i have seen the developer (Urban Splash) working on other projects ( I think they have been re-doing an old building in Morecambe and like what they are about. It might be interesting.
<snip> I wonder if in years time, a real sense of regret will happen that they have chosen to knock down so many old buildings.
Probably.
Looking at what they did in the late 50's early 60's. (before my time, but I have the books and pictures to take reference from). Many beautiful old buildings came down, to be replaced with concrete ugliness. I suppose it was easier to flatten and start again, than refurbish and restore.:rolleyes:
It seems now, concrete ugliness has been replaced by 'cladded ugliness'. Buildings that will look dirty and dated in only a few years.
Still as long as the developers make a few quid in the meantime, it's all ok I guess.:rolleyes:
I like the new train station area.
I agree, it's quite pleasing to the eye, but totally impractical for vehicular access.
I like the peace gardens, winter gardens and the buildings around them.
The Peace Gardens I also agree look very nice. Though I think the new office building which replaced the Eggbox looks like a meccano set.
In terms of the buildings I have mixed feelings. I actually studied the History of Architecture and feel that there are some buildings that are being demolished for the new Cole Bros development that should not be for their architectural value. I forget the street name but the one that has a curved facade.
I believe you mean the building on the corner of Cambridge St and Pinstone St (I think it's known as the pepper pot or something similar). I wasn't aware until yesterdays report in the Star that this was coming down. I hope I misread it. This should not come down.
The comparison with Birmingham showing pictures of the Bullring is probably one of the best reasons!
Park Hill flats I have mixed feelings about. Yes it is an eyesore. In fact it is one of the worst buildings in the country. In alot of ways it should have been demolished. It would have sent a signal to the rest of the country that the city is changing. however i have seen the developer (Urban Splash) working on other projects ( I think they have been re-doing an old building in Morecambe and like what they are about. It might be interesting.
I've always said the same with Parkhill flats. Compromise. Keep one section up and redevelop it, and flatten the rest.
ThePolarOne 10-09-2007, 01:05 I don't know much about the changes as I've only been here for a year. Definitely liked the arrival of the new station area though. I wonder what is being built next to it?
I was looking at Park Hill stuff, because I kept wondering what that monstrosity on the hill was, and found this page about the re-development.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=310836
And in it I found this superb photo of Park Hill. Mixed reactions expected of course.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=464986123&size=l
I don't know much about the changes as I've only been here for a year. Definitely liked the arrival of the new station area though. I wonder what is being built next to it?
I was looking at Park Hill stuff, because I kept wondering what that monstrosity on the hill was, and found this page about the re-development.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=310836
And in it I found this superb photo of Park Hill. Mixed reactions expected of course.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=464986123&size=l
I doubt many people think that Parkhill looks beautiful. I just mentioned it before in the post that I made at the same time as you.
It's an important building. It has a place in History. But they should flatten the majority of it. Keep one section for future generations to see. I wish when they were clearing the slums, they has kept and refurbished maybe one or two roads, so my generation could go and look how people lived relatively recently.
Swan_Vesta 10-09-2007, 01:35 Park Hill flats I have mixed feelings about. Yes it is an eyesore. Infact it is one of the worst buildings in the country. In alot of ways it should have been demolished. It would have sent a signal to the rest of the country that the city is changing. however i have seen the developer (Urban Splash) working on other projects ( I think they have been re-doing an old building in Morecambe and like what they are about. It might be interesting.
I like the fact that the city is undergoing a massive regeneration, We're going up in the world and it looks clean and defined. This said, I do miss the old days of grubby buildings and aged concourses .... Just a little bit of nostalgia.
My idea for park hill flats was charge people £500 to fire RPG's at it until it's completely demolished: Fun for the folks, money in the coffers and a right bloody eyesore removed from the landscape.
My idea for park hill flats was charge people £500 to fire RPG's at it until it's completely demolished: Fun for the folks, money in the coffers and a right bloody eyesore removed from the landscape.
I like it!! (just leave the section up at the back on Duke St please for nostalgia):hihi:
Ms Macbeth 10-09-2007, 06:56 I was in the Peace Gardens on Saturday afternoon. Loads of people watching the Morris and Clog Dancers (very English) with food, drink and ice cream all available nearby. The ambassadors were keeping the nuisance element (kids on bikes) out of the way, and people were chatting, taking photos, playing with their children. Just a few years ago this wouldn't have been possible, so on balance I welcome the changes.
I don't want them to demolish the pepper pot though. :loopy: Part of what makes the Peace Gardens so spectacular is the Victorian splendour of the Town Hall. I would like to see any old buildings worth keeping - kept!
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