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Annoni_mouse
07-09-2007, 07:57
Firstly, let me apologise for the long post, but I wanted to describe my experience of the last week, in the hope that it may serve as a reminder to pet owners and potential pet owners alike.

When we as a family decided that the time was right for us to own a dog, we made the decision to re-home a stray, and so with great excitement we headed off to the local dog shelter. The dog we decided to adopt was a handsome, cross rottweiler, which we christened Frank (it had always been our plan to give our dog a human name!).He seemed to be sweet, good natured dog, less than a year old, and as boisterous as you would expect from a dog of that age.

So on Monday of this week, we drove back to the shelter to pick up our new dog. Frank, freshly washed and groomed, was sleeping in the back of the reception when we arrived, and when the receptionist brought him to us, we couldn't have been more sure that we'd adopted the right dog.

We signed the papers, paid our fee, and the assistant pointed out to us that Frank had a "bit of a runny nose", but overall, she didn't seem too concerned by this so we thought nothing more of it.

On the relatively long journey from Doncaster to our home, Frank was an absolute star, he behaved himself impeccably in the back of my little car, for most of the journey he was content just to lay in my girlfriends lap, the only time he stood was to playfully lick my ear whilst we were in traffic!

When we got home, we threw open all the doors to welcome Frank, giving him ample opportunity to discover his new home, an opportunity he took with both hands, pottering around the house sticking his nose into every room to investigate, and of course, the obligatory christening of the lawn!

He seemed content enough to us, and a little later he woofed down a bowl of dog food, followed by a treat of cows-ear chew, which he readily accepted!

Later that night, after returning from our walk in the park, we all commented how complete the house felt, thanks to our new pet.

Little did we know at the time, this was to be as good as it got for Frank.

During the night, we noticed Frank had a dry, hacking cough and seemed to be retching, though not bringing anything up. We thought it would be nothing more than a kennel cough, but to be on the safe side, we decided to book an apointment at the vets, which we did the next morning. The vet couldn't see us while Wednesday, but as the check up was precautionary at that stage, we didn't think too much of this.

By the time the vets appointment came around, Frank had deteriorated noticeably. Although his cough had largely disappeared, he was now vomiting, and his appetite, so much in evidence on the day we brought him home, had gone. The runny nose we had been warned about had escalated to a near constant stream of thick mucus.

The vet examined Frank, and told us it could be distemper or it could be a severe case of kennel cough, at that time he couldn't be sure. He gave Frank a couple of anti-biotic shots and some re-hydration fluid to try and give to Frank over the next 24 hours. He asked us to return on Thursday to check on his condition.

Even in the short time from the vets appointment, Franks condition took another turn for the worse. Now, not only did he not eat, he had stopped drinking, I even tried to syringe some of the re hydration fluid into his throat in order to get him to drink.

My parents came over on Thursday to sit with Frank whilst we were at work. By the time I returned home, I was shocked by how poorly Frank was. Gone was the bright eyed dog we'd taken home with us on Monday. Instead Frank was now a virtually unable to stand, his eyes were glassy and un-focused, and, when he did stand, his head hung low to the ground.

I had to carry him to the car, but from somewhere, he found the energy to walk out of the car to the vets.

The vet saw us promptly, and after a brief examination told us what we already suspected. Frank was most likely suffering from distemper.

There were, he said, only two options left for us. The first involved hospitalizing Frank, and aggressively treating him by putting him on an intravenous drip. There were according to the vet, no gurantees that this course of action would save Frank, and even if he did survive, there could be long term ramifications for Franks health.

I'm sure I don't need to tell you what the second option was.

We'd already discussed this on the journey to the vets, and we both agreed it would be wrong to prolong Franks suffering, and so, with heavy hearts, we gave the vet our decision. He sympathised, and told us he thought we'd made the right and most importantly, the kindest decision. As the nurse entered, my girlfriend and I both left the room, too upset to stay with Frank at the end.

So there you have it. From 4pm on Monday to 6pm on Thursday, we'd gone from proud new owners of a beautiful dog, to sobbing on the street outside the vets practice, having had to make the worst decision any pet owner has to make.

So please, if your thinking of buying a puppy, but don't think you can afford the vaccinations, or you think its worth the risk not to have him or her inoculated, think again.To see an animal suffer the way Frank did in his all too brief time with us was heartbreaking, and it has left an impression on my girlfriend and myself, that will never be forgotten.

daz1976
07-09-2007, 08:04
so sorry to hear that this has happened was the dog vaccinated when ou got it?

Annoni_mouse
07-09-2007, 08:32
so sorry to hear that this has happened was the dog vaccinated when ou got it?

Thanks for the sympathy Daz.

Frank was originally a stray, so in all proability was never vaccinated as a pup.

He was given his shots at the kennels before we collected him, but ironically, it was probably the vaccine that brought out the virus in Frank, and ultimately lead to his illness.

KATIEB_23
07-09-2007, 08:32
Oh what a horrible experience for you (and especially Frank)
So sorry for you xx

shihtzumad
07-09-2007, 11:00
OMG, i am so so sorry for you and your girlfriend, poor frank is nah running free at rainbow bridge. :(

You sound like you have a lovely home to give a dog, i hope this hasn;t put you off.

Have u been in touch with the kennels, where u got him from.

Aint we had some sad news this week with people losing their beloved animals.

Annoni_mouse
07-09-2007, 11:08
OMG, i am so so sorry for you and your girlfriend, poor frank is nah running free at rainbow bridge. :(

You sound like you have a lovely home to give a dog, i hope this hasn;t put you off.

Have u been in touch with the kennels, where u got him from.

Aint we had some sad news this week with people losing their beloved animals.

Thanks for the kind words.

We have contacted the kennel and they have assured us they are keeping a close eye on the other dogs for signs of distemper.

They have also offered us a replacement dog - but at the moment, neither my girlfriend or feel ready to take on a new dog just yet. Plus the vet did advise us to leave it 4-8 weeks to ensure the virus was removed at home.

shihtzumad
07-09-2007, 11:54
It takes time, am sure after 2 months you might be ready to offer a loving home to another dog.

Take care

medusa
07-09-2007, 12:05
I'm so sorry to hear that poor Frank (and you) had to go through all of this and I'm sure that your hearts are breaking from the experience.

Whatever you do, please do remind yourself that you did the very best you could for Frank- it's so easy to blame yourself for things that you didn't know and couldn't affect at the time.

I'm sure that at the right time your hearts will heal and animals have such a canny way of opening your heart up to the possibility of offering them a home. In the mean time remember him for all the times that you would and should have had together.

Frank's story is one that could happen to everyone who takes on an animal without knowledge of their prior history (that's most of us, including me, Molly and almost every cat I've ever had) and that is why it's so scary.

kelibobs
07-09-2007, 12:10
i just can't believe that story to be honest. but as unbelievable as it is i know it does happen unfortunatly. as an amimal owner it is your job and duty to protect your animals from these kinds of illnesses. i know somtimes my OH thinks i'm a bit too keen and always take my dogs to the vet at the first sign of anything being wrong but at the end of the day they can't talk (it would help so much if they could) so you have to think ahead.

my heart is broken for you and i feel so much for you. i hope it hasn't put you off but can imagine it will scare you to death about getting another puppy any time soon.

our thoughts are will you xxxx

Annoni_mouse
07-09-2007, 12:33
Thanks to everyone who has offered there sympathy and support,
and thanks to Medusa, your comments are very comforting.

Perhaps the most upsetting part of the whole saga with Frank was that as a stray, its easy to imagine that he was un-wanted his whole life - and then when he did find a family who wanted him and would have given him a loving home, his future was robbed from him by this awful virus.

katkin
07-09-2007, 16:10
Really sorry to hear your sad experience Annoni mouse, but it sounds as if you did the right thing for poor Frank and he was surrounded by people who loved him during his short time with you- much better than staying in kennels. I'm sure in time you will want to try again- you've had your share of bad luck now, so the next time I hope things work out.

Rainrescue
07-09-2007, 23:23
Annony-mouse - I think its lovely that you posted that story on here, because it shows how the hard we all get hit when we see dogs hit by illness and pain

Dogs dying of any disease is bad - distemper is awful. Painful and I am sure Frank felt ill. My thoughts as I was reading that, was thank god he had someone to love him, care for him, and pay for him to be put to sleep in a clean vet centre. Had you not adopted him - he would have gone down just as bad - but sadly he would have to have been put to sleep in the kennels - unloved and unwanted.

The people who run these kennels try their hardest - but the problem comes with the business i'm afraid. They get the dogs jabbed - and believe me so many kennels don't because of the high cost - but sometimes there is the risk that they will come down with whatever they are carrying.

I always put everything down to fate. How Frank ended up as a stray who knows, but he did. He ended up in those kennels, and he caught that disease - either on the streets, or whilst he was there from something else contagious. The last part of the fate is that he managed to draw you to him, to look after him in his most painful final few days. Sad for you - but at least you helped him through that pain and maybe made it quicker than otherwise.

Your story should be sent to the Sheffield Star - and ask them to publish it - and maybe it will encourage more people to vaccinate their dogs - because distemper and parvo are rife everywhere due to people not vaccinating and scrimping on the money. I believe vets should do these vacs at a well reduced cost - not rip people off as they do.

Vaccines cost about £8.00 + vat - how much profit do they place on the whole network of dogs lives. It sickens me.

shihtzumad
08-09-2007, 11:38
Your story should be sent to the Sheffield Star - and ask them to publish it - and maybe it will encourage more people to vaccinate their dogs - because distemper and parvo are rife everywhere due to people not vaccinating and scrimping on the money. I believe vets should do these vacs at a well reduced cost - not rip people off as they do.

Vaccines cost about £8.00 + vat - how much profit do they place on the whole network of dogs lives. It sickens me.

I totally agree with what rr said, good idea to publish it in the Star.

Also you are talking about 9 pounds to vaccinate a animal and vets charge you around 40 pounds plus varys from vet to vet. unbeliveable.

Rainrescue
08-09-2007, 11:42
yep - the actual cost of vaccination when sold is about £8.00 + vat.
ok - vets do have a business to run, they do have overheads, they do have staff - but come one -

we used to pay £52.00 for a set of vaccines from one practise, just because it was such a long drive to get them to another.

My point is though that this is more of a necessity than a 'nice to have' and so should have a reduced profit to encourage people to have it done

Adz
08-09-2007, 13:14
Totally agree RR i have recently paid £40 for boosters for my boy it took 2 mins to have it done and the healthcheck that should have been included was non-existent i had to ask for his teeth to be checked. They were the cheapest after checking several vets out.

So sorry for your loss and thank you for sharing yours and Franks story

Annoni_mouse
10-09-2007, 07:30
Just as a little update to this thread..

Having had the weekend to digest the events of the last week, our family have decided that in a little while, when the dust has settled, so to speak, we're going to adopt another stray, and hopefully we'll have better luck than we did with poor Frank.

The Kennels we bought Frank from had no hesitation in offering their sympathy and regret for what had happened, and have assured us that we are welcome to a replacement dog, when the time suits us.

As a footnote, I hope Frank's story hasnt put anyone off adopting a stray. Everyone I have spoken to, from the vet to the kennel owners, have told me how rare distemper is these days. It seems Frank was just unlucky.

Once again I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread, and for the very kind PM's I have received regarding Frank. Its gone a long way to restoring my faith in the Sheffield Forum:)

Moonbird
10-09-2007, 09:10
yep - the actual cost of vaccination when sold is about £8.00 + vat.
ok - vets do have a business to run, they do have overheads, they do have staff - but come one -

we used to pay £52.00 for a set of vaccines from one practise, just because it was such a long drive to get them to another.



I totaly agree, i have found myself these days it pays to shop around for vet services, there can often be a massive price difference for things like neutering and vaccinations.

Annoni_mouse
12-11-2007, 08:43
Just thought I would resurect this thread and let everyone who offered their kind words at the time of Frank's death know that we have officially adopted another dog!

We went back to the rescue centre where we got Frank from and picked out an amazing looking pooch - he looks like a cross between a hyena and a tiger! He's a beautiful brindle colour and we'll be picking him up (post vaccinations of course!) on Saturday.

kittenta
12-11-2007, 09:56
That is great news!! I'm sure he will help make the house feel complete again! Don't forget we'll need to see pictures too, he sounds a beautiful colour!

Lotti
12-11-2007, 10:18
I didn't see this the first time round, and would like to say two things...
Firstly, congratulations on your new dog!

Secondly, I made the decision not to vaccinate Eddy after hearing so much about auto-immune from over vaccination and having spoken to some people who had actually had dogs with it.
Takara is vaccinated because she plays in water and goes to dog shows but Eddy had been vaccinated for 11 years, never went in water and doesn't mix very much with other dogs (although granted, he goes for walks on land where other dogs have been).

I was watching him at Rivelin the other day when I realised he's recently starting going into the water and drinking from rivers and puddles and I know this is the main way of contracting Distemper. I decided, as soon as I could afford it, I'd have to get him vaccinated (which means the full course all over again!).

Thank you for ressurecting this thread as it's given me a shove in the right direction and confirmed what I had been thinking.

medusa
12-11-2007, 10:30
I'm so pleased that your hearts are healing enough to let another dog in Annoni mouse. I wish you many years of joy and love with your new pooch.

Annoni_mouse
12-11-2007, 13:33
Thanks everyone!

He certainly is a striking looking beasty - I'll be sure to post piccies when we take some.

Obviously, what happened to Frank has left its mark, but we hope to give our new dog the love and affection Frank would have enjoyed had he have lived.

Moonbird
12-11-2007, 16:57
So pleased that you found a new friend to love :)

steve_m
13-11-2007, 13:40
You know I've always felt uneasy about yearly vaccinations and just how long a vaccinated dog has immunity, and the possible side effects but after seeing a dog fitting and in pain it's a no brainer.