well i must say what a load of rubbish, so much for the snow the weather men never get it right these days

Originally posted by Janice
well i must say what a load of rubbish, so much for the snow the weather men never get it right these days What snow were we supose to get some.:confused:

And the point of your post is.........?

I doubt that down here near the centre of Sheffield we will ever see a good snow fall again. Seems like global warming is really starting to make a difference.... I wonder when we should start to worry.

Clumber and the point on alot of the posts on here is....... im only making conversation

Originally posted by Janice
....... im only making conversation

good for you girl :)

Originally posted by Snook
I doubt that down here near the centre of Sheffield we will ever see a good snow fall again. Seems like global warming is really starting to make a difference.... I wonder when we should start to worry.

I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong on this, but I understood that the recent large earthquake had knocked the earth's axis a little bit that will have the effect of sending us further north. Don't know how quickly this will happen but you days or snowfall might not yet be over! Lesson - don't mess with nature!

Originally posted by MobileB
I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong on this, but I understood that the recent large earthquake had knocked the earth's axis a little bit that will have the effect of sending us further north. Don't know how quickly this will happen but you days or snowfall might not yet be over! Lesson - don't mess with nature!

Who said that cos i think that is utter bs to be honest?

Originally posted by MobileB
I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong on this, but I understood that the recent large earthquake had knocked the earth's axis a little bit that will have the effect of sending us further north. Don't know how quickly this will happen but you days or snowfall might not yet be over! Lesson - don't mess with nature!
So how exactly have we "messed" with plate tectonics ?

Yeh I saw this two, scientists have said the earth has been tilted on its axis by ONE INCH! Can't see it making a huge difference in terms of weather to be honest.

Originally posted by Janice
well i must say what a load of rubbish, so much for the snow the weather men never get it right these days

The Ice Age like weather warnings that were reported around November last year, were tipped to arrive in Febuary.

Let's see what happens, hard to imagine at the moment it's so warm out.

hang on a minute, i heard two centimetres off its axis!? its getting bigger!!! but seriously the earth and its axis are one and the same? the movement of a techtonic plate might move a country but not the earth further north, in that case we would all go north, into space, but hang on north is a fixed point on earth isnt it? quick someone hand me a copy of new scientist!

we had tons of snow up here where i live, it snowed christmas day the first time in about 5 yrs yay!

Originally posted by Scottandandy
Who said that cos i think that is utter bs to be honest?
it was on BBC main evening news

Originally posted by moongarden
it was on BBC main evening news

it must be true then :heyhey:

Originally posted by leddi
hang on a minute, i heard two centimetres off its axis!? its getting bigger!!! but seriously the earth and its axis are one and the same? the movement of a techtonic plate might move a country but not the earth further north, in that case we would all go north, into space, but hang on north is a fixed point on earth isnt it?

The earth and its axis are not the same, north isn't a fixed point on earth, every year it moves, sometimes as much as 10 metres and has to be reset on gps systems etc. The further the north pole tilts away from the sun the colder the northern hemisphere gets. Several times in the earth's history north has flipped to the other end of the planet completely, reversing the magnetism of the planet. North is also relative, if we all moved further north we wouldn't end up in space, we would end up further north on the planet. north can only be referred to in terms of earth because of its magnetism, orientation and gravity, space doesn't have a direction.

Normally, when snow is predicted for the North, it's usually Yorkshire that gets it. But this year for some reason it's been the North West. We had tons of it Christmas Day night and it took a few days to clear.

There were a couple of blizzards on Sunday in Hathersage which covered Mam Tor. I had to hide in Robin Hood's Cave on Stanage Edge.

Originally posted by MobileB
I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong on this, but I understood that the recent large earthquake had knocked the earth's axis a little bit that will have the effect of sending us further north. Don't know how quickly this will happen but you days or snowfall might not yet be over! Lesson - don't mess with nature!

That sounds like absolute bovine excrement to me. Don't believe everything you hear in the pub or read on the internet. That said I'm willing to humour you if you can provide a link to a source to back it up.

Originally posted by ptigga
That sounds like absolute bovine excrement to me. Don't believe everything you hear in the pub or read on the internet. That said I'm willing to humour you if you can provide a link to a source to back it up.

The bit about moving the earth slightly off-axis was in one of the papers.

I vaguely remember the phrase 'scientists believe the Earth may have wobbled about 5 degrees away from its normal axis for a brief period immediately after the tremour' in a news bulletin.

Apparently it isn't uncommon for a variety of reasons, and the shift is absolutely tiny so don't concern yourself with it! The earth wobbles rather a lot as it spins as it is ;)

And yes its true that the north pole moves around, and in fact is possibly on the verge of swapping with the south pole again (happens quite frequently).

Would sheffield be down south then? Would we be softie southerners?

frequently being approx once every 500,000 years. It's overdue as estimates make it 700,000 years now since it swapped. No eye witnesses left around to confirm that unfortunately.

It also takes around 10k years to actually move I think, so it's not like it's overnight.

For the last several years the strength of the magnetic field has been declining, it could be an early indication that the shift has started.

What effects this will have are unclear, but the van allen belts that protect the earth from much solar radiation may disappear for a few millenia. On the positive side there is no apparent correlation between historical shifts and extinction events, so it shouldn't prove fatal.

Will I be able to get a better tan?

The earth *was* left with a perminant slight tilt off axis after the earthquake.

However, it only reduced the time of a day by 0.00001 milliseconds or somesuch nonsenceicaly small amount

Originally posted by RPG
The earth *was* left with a perminant slight tilt off axis after the earthquake.

However, it only reduced the time of a day by 0.00001 milliseconds or somesuch nonsenceicaly small amount

a movement of the axis wouldn't alter the length of the day, that would be the speed of rotation around the axis.

Originally posted by Cyclone
a movement of the axis wouldn't alter the length of the day, that would be the speed of rotation around the axis.

Which we WOULD notice! I'm sure I read somewhere, once, that even the tiniest shift in the speed of the Earth's rotation around it's axis would mean that we all go flying into the nearest object at top speed.

yes thanks for the reply em3978, as you can probably tell i knew nothing about what i was talking about hence the post was littered with question and exclamation marks, i will be subscribing to New Scientist this year though.

Originally posted by Cyclone
frequently being approx once every 500,000 years. It's overdue as estimates make it 700,000 years now since it swapped. No eye witnesses left around to confirm that unfortunately.

It also takes around 10k years to actually move I think, so it's not like it's overnight.

For the last several years the strength of the magnetic field has been declining, it could be an early indication that the shift has started.

What effects this will have are unclear, but the van allen belts that protect the earth from much solar radiation may disappear for a few millenia. On the positive side there is no apparent correlation between historical shifts and extinction events, so it shouldn't prove fatal.

thanks for this - its fascinating!
so it takes 10k years to flip poles.....i did kinda wonder about that - we are hoping to emigrate to aus this year, and id hate to be moving to somewhere as equally cold as sheffield!

(tin hat in place for last sentence)

sue:)

magnetic north south has no bearing on the seasons or temperature.

There's an interesting story here about the poles:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0%2C6903%2C837058%2C00.html

and some good stuff from Nasa here:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/29dec_magneticfield.htm