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Im after someone who's just starting out, and wanting to gain some experience working with people, i wish to build a portfolio up for acting and modelling, all i require from you is a 10x9 (like the face snaps you see of movie stars) for websites... Im willing to do almost any type of photo, anywhere (providing i can get transport)
Let me know if anyone can help.. Thanks!
did i say free?? i can probably afford a small fee, but cant afford like £150 / £200+ as most charge...
If you are genuinely serious about acting and modelling. Get a really good portfolio done. It may be more expensive, but a £500 investment may make you £5000 as opposed to the £50 that gets you nowhere. £4500 profit compared to £50 lost. Not saying you need to spend £500 BTW, these are just example figures.
Getting modeling and acting work depends hugely on good presentation. There are far more actors/models than jobs, so you need all the help you can get and a well presented professional looking portfolio can make all the difference. If you can't be bothered to make the effort/investment in a decent portfolio, then you will be perceived as not being serious about your work and will therefore be less likely to get any.
Someone who is starting out and wanting to gain experience with people is probably not the best person for you as if you are also inexperienced, it may be the blind leading the blind. A beginner photographer may learn more/get better pics by photographing an experienced model and vice versa.
I dont have that £500 to pay out.... thats the point...
If I don't have say £15k to buy a new car, I don't expect a dealer to give me one for £2k simply if say I can't afford £15k. That was my original point in my first post, which now seems to have disappeared for no good reason. :confused:
Why do people constantly expect photographers to work for nothing/a pittance? It's a business/job like any other.
P.S. I did say £500 was for illustration and not what you had to spend.
But if you want a good and varied modeling folio, you may need to spend more than you'd like.
well thats what this post is for.... asking people to let me know what they are willing to charge.. im not asking for free... i never once mentioned the word 'free' - and since people just starting out would probably be cheaper, or might POSSIBLY do it for free, or near free, thats why i targeted thoes people
And if you are really serious about this line of work, you will save or borrow the money to get the best portfolio you can. Why? A good portfolio will pay for itself many times over. Also it may be worth asking photographers who use models a lot, if you are indeed a suitable candidate for modeling. It's not just about looks, it's far more to do with how you perform in front of the camera. i.e. can you act? And by using an experienced photographer, he/she may help you learn about modeling.
There are a lot of people who think modeling is easy. It only looks easy if you are good at it and like most of the glamorous jobs it's anything but.
And the implication I read from your first post was that there was no real money forthcoming [and I was indeed correct in that reading] and you may be prepared to do TFP. TFP is time for prints, where a model is paid in prints for the time the model would normally charge. And which is often not a particularly good deal for the photographer as it's actually often cheaper to pay a model than do TFP.
I'm simply pointing out that cheaper may actually cost you more money. I learnt a while back, that biting the bullet and paying more for better product, was often cheaper in the long term. You get what you pay for. Though if you buy 'labels' then you usually pay more simply for wearing a badge.
I have no money to save in the first place.... and as for borring, i have borrowed enough of people, and various places, and either cant get any more.. or dont want to get into more debt.
I am a photographer who will be tunring pro in October. Model shots are something I know I can do well and it would be really great to work with a keen and willing model.
Have a look at my website http://www.adrianrichardson.com
And send me an email from my site if you fancy getting together for a few shots in and around sheffield. No charge just experience !!!!
I shoot models and actors professionally. The fact is if you want good shots you need to go to a good photographer. If you're serious about your career then you need to invest in that. It's annoying as a professional photographer that people seem willing to give an amateur £100 to produce a body of work that is quite frankly, not good enough. But people are unwilling to pay £400 for something that is of an editorial standard. I know I'm regularly published. I understand what your saying about not being able to afford these rates but you are entering a business where you are the commodity, you're lucky that genetics have provided you with a face for modelling, so don't waste it on uncle bobs happy snaps, go to a pro with a good studio and a track record. You may even get grants to help pay for it, business link can help you there.
"It's annoying as a professional photographer that people seem willing to give an amateur £100 to produce a body of work that is quite frankly, not good enough. But people are unwilling to pay £400 for something that is of an editorial standard."
That's very true indeed. I shoot weddings and, I admit, I don't charge top price but I charge what I believe is fair for what they get. I do offer a low rate for certain weddings (usually 2nd time registry office jobs) yet I still get "Well, what it is,is" which is a classic euphemism for can you do us a special rate.
It may seem a bit rude to do this, but if you break down the costs of doing a job and show your profit margin you can then ask the question, It will take me (x) amount of time to complete the work for (y) amount of profit. Do I want to work for (£z) per hour? Some work I've done in the past has worked out at less than minimum wage, then I take off 22% tax. Yet, "Ooh it's a lot o' money in't it"
This is one of the most interesting topics I have read here so far. Kudos, people. :)