who's your favourite scary villain, Christopher Lee, Gert Frobe? tell me now





not forgetting the Daleks!

The Daleks will always be a favourite but Blofeld (sp?) from the Bond movies has been top of the list for a long while.

Cruella Deville :)

Cruella Deville :)

She had ace hair. :D

DR Evil from austin powers he's great...:hihi:

Harold Shipman.

Forum moderators.... :hihi:

The Joker.

Not the camp 60s version, the dark, gruesome version as portrayed by Jack Nicholson and soon to be played by Heath Ledger in the Batman Begins sequel.

Darth Vader.

And no, DV is NOT camp.

Darth Vader.

And no, DV is NOT camp.

He is. As a row of tents!

Reno Smith from Bad Day at Black Rock or Noah Cross from Chinatown or Zabel from Port of Shadows. Very evil men who corrupt everyone around them.

For sheer nutso value it has to be Tommy Udo from Kiss of Death. The blueprint for The Joker.

Hannibal Lector

Sylar (from Heroes)

Hannibal Lector


Yup him for me too!

Tyler Duerdan...

Alan Rickman, Sherriff of Nottingham.

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She had ace hair. :D

Looks like mine some mornings...:hihi:

1. Lestat from The Vampire Chronicles
2. Tyler Durden from Fight Club.
3. John Doe from Se7en.
4. Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights.
5. Mr Burns from The Simpsons.

Me for Hannibal Lector

Alan Rickman, Sherriff of Nottingham.

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Good god yes! Plus his portrayal of Hans Gruber in Die Hard, musn't forget that.

Darth Vader.

And no, DV is NOT camp.

He wasn't. Not until the worst possible comedy hollywood-style "Nooooooooooooooooo!" you will ever hear at the end of Episode III. It made him sound about as scary as a lop-eared rabbit.

He is. As a row of tents!

Pink ones at Butlins !!

I'm with Halibut on this one - sorry Rich :)

Alan Rickman, Sherriff of Nottingham.

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I'd go for that :)

I always fancied the pants off

Rupert of Hentzau from "The Prisoner of Zenda". :)

My other favourite villains include:

Rutger Hauer's character in "Blade Runner"

George Clooney's character in "From Dusk till Dawn"

Johnny Depp's Capn Jack Sparrow in "Pirates of the Caribbean", assuming he's counted as a villain?

Gary Oldman's character in various films, including "The Fifth Element"

Oh, and Warren from "Hollyoaks" :)

swan vesta........:D

Jack The Ripper. :cool:

George Clooney's character in "From Dusk till Dawn"
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was he really a villain tho ss? he was kinda the good guy...his murdering pschytzoid brother was the real villain........?

I always fancied the pants off

Rupert of Hentzau from "The Prisoner of Zenda". :)

My other favourite villains include:

Rutger Hauer's character in "Blade Runner"

George Clooney's character in "From Dusk till Dawn"

Johnny Depp's Capn Jack Sparrow in "Pirates of the Caribbean", assuming he's counted as a villain?

Gary Oldman's character in various films, including "The Fifth Element"

Oh, and Warren from "Hollyoaks" :)

Warrens a softie at heart...a murderer yes...but not a villain surely? :P

Warrens a softie at heart...a murderer yes...but not a villain surely? :P

I think that's the link between most of my favourite villains - that they're all soft at heart really, and they've all got essentially got a good heart.

I think Warren is meant to be a bit of a villain though?... :)

StarSparkle

was he really a villain tho ss? he was kinda the good guy...his murdering pschytzoid brother was the real villain........?

I think he kinda was meant to be a villain, a sort of anti-hero 'hero' type? I guess he was an essentially 'good man' who did a lot of bad things. Yeah, his brother was the real mean psycho son of a *****, but George Clooney's character was certainly no saint.

It is a complex film though, so I guess views of the characters are bound to differ between people. I remember being very impressed when I first watched the film how the script writers and director (never mind George Clooney himself!) managed to turn the guy from being a nasty, hate-character at the beginning, into an admirable hero by the end.

But surely the real 'good guys' were the preacher and his family?

StarSparkle

PS Just remembered another favourite, in a similar vein to the George Clooney character:

John Cusack's Martin Blank in "Grosse Pointe Blank". How could I have forgotten?

Dennis Hopper as Frank Booth, in Blue Velvet.

Christopher Lee in anything, Charles Gray, Peter Eyre, and "Saul" the cult leader in Home and Away

johnny allen, the best villan ever

Rutger Hauer's character in "Blade Runner"


My opinion changes everytime I watch it, but at the moment my feeling is that if anyone is the villain in Blade Runner then it is jobs-worth Deckard or man-playing-God Tyrell. Roy is a freedom fighter! Although he does score an own goal by killing poor old/young JF Sebastian.

Brilliant film no matter who the villain is. Can't wait for the super duper special edition this December.

Rutger as John Ryder in the Hitcher, now there's is an irredeemably unambiguously nasty villain.

Servilan... from Blake's 7 :D

Saruman! In book AND film. I thought all me birthdays had come at once when Chris Lee played him!

And the Cybermen, scariest villains ever.

The Hitchhiker from the Mighty Boosh.

He's a cockney nut-job.

Mad Frankie Fraser :)

Saruman! In book AND film. I thought all me birthdays had come at once when Chris Lee played him!

And the Cybermen, scariest villains ever.

PMSL @ Cybermen! Daleks > Cybermen in scariest Doctor Who monster stakes.

PMSL @ Cybermen! Daleks > Cybermen in scariest Doctor Who monster stakes.

Nooo, Cybermen are like corrupted humans, like humans made into machines and that's way scarier! Especially in the new episodes where they are marching round and going on about how good it is that everyone will be the same when they've been 'upgraded' and this will mean people will be equal. Whoa...

Though now we know how daleks get upstairs that makes them more scary than they used to be. I used to think "Pht! I'd just go upstairs and escape 'em". I also notice how Zombies in films are now more scary too - not slow and lumbering and rubbish any more.

The Borg :)

Nooo, Cybermen are like corrupted humans, like humans made into machines and that's way scarier! Especially in the new episodes where they are marching round and going on about how good it is that everyone will be the same when they've been 'upgraded' and this will mean people will be equal. Whoa...

Though now we know how daleks get upstairs that makes them more scary than they used to be. I used to think "Pht! I'd just go upstairs and escape 'em". I also notice how Zombies in films are now more scary too - not slow and lumbering and rubbish any more.

I'm with you on this, Mathom :thumbsup: Cybermen have always been the scariest Dr Who baddies - they were the only Dr Who villains who made me hide behind the sofa to watch them! :D

Their more up-to-date counterparts on "StarTrek" were definitely the Borg - OMG, when Jean Luc Picard became a Borg, that was absolutely terrifying. It's the mutilation of the human form that does it in both cases, I think.

The Daleks - pah! Never found them the least bit scary, even as a small child! I was always disappointed when they were the baddies, cos I knew I wasn't going to be scared, and that was half the thrill of the programme!

StarSparkle

Oooh now here's an endless list! In no particular order:

Brain - well he was always trying to take over the world - he must be evil!
Louis Cyphre - Angel Heart
Jack Torrance - The Shining
Daryl Van Horne - The Witches of Eastwick
Casanova Frankenstein - Mystery Men
Stewie Griffin - family guy
David Lo Pan - Big Trouble In Little China
Hal 9000 - 2001
Kaiser Soze - The Usual Suspects
Mr Burns - The Simpsons
Baron Greenback - Danger Mouse
Evil Edna - Willo The Whisp

more will be added!!!

Oooh now here's an endless list! In no particular order:

Brain - well he was always trying to take over the world - he must be evil!
Louis Cyphre - Angel Heart
Jack Torrance - The Shining
Daryl Van Horne - The Witches of Eastwick
Casanova Frankenstein - Mystery Men
Stewie Griffin - family guy
David Lo Pan - Big Trouble In Little China
Hal 9000 - 2001
Kaiser Soze - The Usual Suspects
Mr Burns - The Simpsons
Baron Greenback - Danger MouseEvil Edna - Willo The Whisp

more will be added!!!

Good one!

Also GrotBags from Rod Hull's Pink Windmill programme :D

And Blakey from On the Buses! :D

He never did reveal what was under that black Mac did he? :hihi:

I'm surprised Basil hasn't been on with the character Moriarty, there is also Moccata, from the Dennis Wheatley book, "The Devil Rides Out", made into a film starring Christopher Lee (as a goodie this time)

I'm surprised Basil hasn't been on with the character Moriarty, there is also Moccata, from the Dennis Wheatley book, "The Devil Rides Out", made into a film starring Christopher Lee (as a goodie this time)

Good thinking, Cressida. Another one I forgot -

Sherlock Holmes' female adversary, Irene Adler

...Sherlock Holmes' female adversary, Irene Adler
Was Irene Adler a villain? I always thought she was simply a strong woman who had the intelligence to outsmart Holmes.

Good thinking, Cressida. Another one I forgot -

Sherlock Holmes' female adversary, Irene Adler

Irene Adler, must confess I don't remember her, shall have to watch the series on Freeview again, she sounds interesting, good one Starry;)

Sybil Fawlty! Well John Cleese (Basil Fawlty) thought she was evil! :lol:

No 1 has to be the daleks, i grew up on the re-runs of doctor who. A badly dressed up monster is never scary after your teenage years :(

Sylar from Heroes

The bad guy from the movie "Wolf Creek" that man was utter evil

The truck driver in the film "The Duel", was I glad to see the back of him

Was Irene Adler a villain? I always thought she was simply a strong woman who had the intelligence to outsmart Holmes.


To a degree, yes :P

I always admired her personally, but I reckon she does count as a villainess, as she did pit her wits against Sherlock's on a number of occasions...

StarSparkle

Jean Reno's character in Leon

To a degree, yes :P

I always admired her personally, but I reckon she does count as a villainess, as she did pit her wits against Sherlock's on a number of occasions...

StarSparkle
Doesn't a villain have to do evil/Very Bad Things/insert phrase of choice to join the category? Irene Adler was more sinned against than sinning. She outwitted Holmes; I don't think she was actually villainous. I think I'll have to revisit that particular short story :) .

Doesn't a villain have to do evil/Very Bad Things/insert phrase of choice to join the category? Irene Adler was more sinned against than sinning. She outwitted Holmes; I don't think she was actually villainous. I think I'll have to revisit that particular short story :) .

I suppose it really depends what you mean by 'villain'. Personally, I take it to mean anyone who's an Adversary of the Hero, as Irene Adler is to Sherlock Holmes. I admit I can't remember exactly what she did either - but I'm pretty sure it was on the wrong side of the law.

I don't think a villain is necessarily a bad person at all - more someone the reader/viewer is expected to want the hero to come up trumps against. I think maybe there's a theatrical element in the word 'villain' itself, which lends a slightly 'pantomime baddy' feel, rather than someone's who's out-and-out evil.

Or I may well be talking rubbish :P

StarSparkle

I think I'd make the distinction between villain and antagonist. 'Villain' implies evil-doing of some description, while an antagonist opposes the aims of the protagonist without necessarily being a bad guy.

Irene Adler was the antagonist to Holmes' protagonist; she wasn't a villain.

I think I'd make the distinction between villain and antagonist. 'Villain' implies evil-doing of some description, while an antagonist opposes the aims of the protagonist without necessarily being a bad guy.

Irene Adler was the antagonist to Holmes' protagonist; she wasn't a villain.

I guess we'll have to differ in our interpretation of the word 'villain' then ;) I think the words villain, antagonist and adversary can be inter-changeable in certain contexts.

StarSparkle

I think that while a villain is always an antagonist, an antagonist isn't necessarily a villain :) .

Irene Adler only appeared in the one story - A Scandal in Bohemia. She held a love letter and a photograph from some philandering Prince and Holmes was charged with retrieving them. She outsmarted him.

Although she only appeared the once she made such an impression on Holmes that he always referred to her thereafter as "that woman".

Or so I remember off the top of my head

...Although she only appeared the once she made such an impression on Holmes that he always referred to her thereafter as "that woman".

Or so I remember off the top of my head
"The woman" :) . I always remember because of Holmes' otherwise asexual disdain for women in general.

Santa Clause. What a villian, he's great.

Glen Close, AKA 'The Bunny Boiler' in Fatal Attraction

Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers

Jack P. Shepard in Coronation Street :)

Zelda from Terrahawks
Captain Black from Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons
That bald bloke from Thunderbirds
Dr Reinhart from 1979 Disney film "The Black Hole"