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Jon
04-01-2005, 00:30
How can you help someone with a Compulsive lying disorder? Myself and a few others can see through these lies now but we would like to help this person?

Any support groups in Sheffield/Rotherham area?

chrissie
04-01-2005, 01:04
Does this person lie in public places or on/in their bed or home?

I haven't lied (lain?) in a public for years, I can control my drinking now!! ;-) but i do lie in bed a lot cos I dont do mornings.

;-) ;-) ;-)

Angel05
04-01-2005, 01:34
I had a friend who lied all the time... she even began to believe in her own lies...

She believed that she was moving to another Bowling alley to become a Manager... she was found seeking out suits for her new career move that didnt exist... Her parents believed in her and ended up writing a letter to the Manager of the current Bowl that she was working at as a lane marshall to find out why she had lost the promotion... (that didnt even exist)...

On another ocassion she called me in tears... i rushed to her aid as her parents were fighting and getting a divorce... she was soul destroyed... as i held her in my arms sobbing... I sank in every lie... yes it was all a lie... the following week her parents were seen Bowling in a league an no divorce or arguments were heard off...

She was... so i found out later seeing a Psychologist... havent really had much contact with her since... (not because of her lies because we have both moved from bournemouth) last i heard she was in Photography...

Its such a shame that people feel they have to lie... I guess their real life isnt good enough... (my heart goes out to them)

Angel05
04-01-2005, 03:16
Sadly... Only those who help themselves - deserve help from others!

It takes someone to actually see that they need help themselves before help can be given to that one individual...

saxon76tr
06-01-2005, 10:07
How can you help someone with a Compulsive lying disorder? Myself and a few others can see through these lies now but we would like to help this person?

I used to lie a lot, but as soon as i became an astronaut and walked on the moon without oxygen, i stopped.

Hope that helps.

muddycoffee
06-01-2005, 19:22
I think that lying is a form of attention seeking.

The best way to deal with it is to ignore the person, or look glazed when they tell you something, or change the subject all the time.

The worst thing about lies is when you find out later that you have been taken in by one. I have lost intrest in people who I used to have as friends, because of this.

Although It's often flattering that these people are trying to make themselves more interesting to try and gain your interest or friendship, but usually they are either so boring, lacking in self esteem, that they can't relate their true life with enough confidence, that they try to make themselves into something they are not.

bostonaire
06-01-2005, 19:32
very low confidence.....

Don_Kiddick
06-01-2005, 19:48
Is it downright lyin' like Angel 05's friend or just bulls*ittin' to make their Reliant Robin into a Vectris?

Some lies affect other people. I was a victim in my last job of a bully who hated me from the day I started in that department.
Of course they had been there years and, if you throw enough sh@ at the fan some sticks. Because I was the new kid, their 'opinion' was heard & 'taken in'.
I had a year on antidepressants. Nice.

These people should be taken out & machine gunned.
In front of their families.
Avoid them. They can't be helped.
They have psychopathic intent.

Harmless bulls*itters say they are going on a world cruise to impress others, may even make some people a tad envious.
They get 2 weeks in Skeggy & no else gives a monkey.

Leave them alone & they will go home.

Snook
06-01-2005, 21:36
It is a way of seeking attention, just let them get on with it, all lies are found out in the end, that's the beauty of it. :)

If it really is that serious and you care about the person, maybe suggest that they get help, as they may have some sort of mental illness... more likely they are seeking attention though.

D2J
06-01-2005, 21:51
Agree with Snook. Let them lie, in some cases you can tell straight away, other times it will just blow up in their face and make them look more foolish :)

nomme
06-01-2005, 22:22
Originally posted by Angel05
I had a friend who lied all the time... she even began to believe in her own lies...

She believed that she was moving to another Bowling alley to become a Manager... she was found seeking out suits for her new career move that didnt exist... Her parents believed in her and ended up writing a letter to the Manager of the current Bowl that she was working at as a lane marshall to find out why she had lost the promotion... (that didnt even exist)...

On another ocassion she called me in tears... i rushed to her aid as her parents were fighting and getting a divorce... she was soul destroyed... as i held her in my arms sobbing... I sank in every lie... yes it was all a lie... the following week her parents were seen Bowling in a league an no divorce or arguments were heard off...

She was... so i found out later seeing a Psychologist... havent really had much contact with her since... (not because of her lies because we have both moved from bournemouth) last i heard she was in Photography...

Its such a shame that people feel they have to lie... I guess their real life isnt good enough... (my heart goes out to them)

I am not a doctor...but I've met someone similar.
They were diagnosed as manic i.e medically ill. Just as bad as if they had depression. Very difficult to spot as often manics are often very good fun to be around.
For what it's worth, I'm just trying to make the point that they may not just be attention seeking, but attention seeking because they are clinicaly ill.

Nomme

Siān
06-01-2005, 22:27
Unless the person wants help Jon I'd put them down & not so much back off slowly as run away very quickly. They aren't likely to see they have a problem so all that's likely to happen if you try & help is you'll get sucked into their games

clare598
07-04-2006, 19:54
hi,i think my best friend (well,was my best friend before she started lying) has compulsive lying dissorder. she lies all the time so much so that i no longer believe anything she says at all. even when she knows that i know she is lying she still continues to do so. she even falls out with me as she keeps insisting the lies are actually the truth! she cannot even tell what reality is anymore! when i confornt her she denies lying. she lies about her salary,her debt,tells me other friends have said things about me,lies about talking to men on the internet etc etc. she is also very overweight and used to lie to herself cutting labels off clothes telling me they rub her neck! she tells totally rediculous lies about everything! im indespair and dont know what to do. i can no longer be friends with her!!!!! every time i confront her she tries to turn it round to me and make me feel guilty for not believing her! :confused: :rant:

flight
09-05-2006, 10:54
I can sympathise with you. I think my partner is a compulsive liar. He lies, I find out, I confront him, he swears blind I am wrong and makes me look like a paranoid freak. I then find proof I am right but he still denies it. This is probably going to break up our relationship unless I can get him to see he has a problem and get him help, but where and what sort of help is there available? If anyone knows how to get help for this, please let me know.

Elphi 24
09-05-2006, 11:30
FLight - I was in the same position with my ex-husband. He would lie about things that didn't need lying about (ie what time he got home from work) and made me feel as though it was me being paranoid. The little lies led to the big lies and then ultimately found out that he had been syphoning off money from our joint account to fund his hobbies (from my calculations at least 15k over 2 years) and then lied. I think my advice would be proceed with caution - dont get stuck in the same position I found myself in!

sccsux
09-05-2006, 12:22
I used to lie a lot, but as soon as i became an astronaut and walked on the moon without oxygen, i stopped.
:hihi:

Hope that helps.

Somehow, I very much doubt it has (was funny though:D).

Mz_BaBe
09-05-2006, 12:22
I think i know someone who might have this

sheffdan
09-05-2006, 19:00
How can you help someone with a Compulsive lying disorder? Myself and a few others can see through these lies now but we would like to help this person?

Any support groups in Sheffield/Rotherham area?

And this is to do with computers and technology because??.................

NattyPatty
16-02-2008, 16:37
I am a compulsive liar. I know I am, I bet everyone I know, knows I am. I try hard to stop, but my mouth moves before my brain. I use to work with a compulsive liar, thankfully she got fired for embezzeling and drugs, but I hated her for her lies. I want to stop, but I don't know how. I don't lie to avoid getting in trouble or whatever, I just make up stories. I mean like going to the doctors can become the most far out thing. When really it was nothing.

Wildcat
16-02-2008, 16:44
I am a compulsive liar. I know I am, I bet everyone I know, knows I am. I try hard to stop, but my mouth moves before my brain. I use to work with a compulsive liar, thankfully she got fired for embezzeling and drugs, but I hated her for her lies. I want to stop, but I don't know how. I don't lie to avoid getting in trouble or whatever, I just make up stories. I mean like going to the doctors can become the most far out thing. When really it was nothing.

How do we know you are not lieing now? :hihi:

Maybe you should speak with your doctor about your compulsion to lie.

newvanandman
16-02-2008, 16:47
If they said they wanted help,could you believe them?...:D

Fareast
16-02-2008, 22:56
I understand the government are becoming very concerned about Compulsive Lying Disorders.
Millions will be spent on attempts to eradicate this dastardly scourge from all sections of U.K. life. Quangos will be set up, counsellors by the thousand will be rushed in to help sufferers, targets will be set up [ and revised ] and Outreach Social Workers will reach out in all directions.
The whole sad syndrome was highlighted recently by the case of a man we will call 'T.B.'
[ for legal & laughable reasons ]. This man went through a stage of lying to a whole country for more than 10 years. He caused utter confusion, chaos and wasted billions of pounds in the process. It was noted by observers that the victim even began to believe his own lies. Millions of people were deceived and even bamboozled by this man's whoppers.
Even his closest friend, a man we will call ' G.B.' was promised a very important job by T.B. and was kept waiting for an eternity. The man, G.B. now suffers a nervous disorder, himself, as a result of this skullduggery. His jaw literally drops whenever he remembers the lies that his old ' friend ' spun and weaved.
Now, the sickness has spread to a large group of very important people who we can only call ' New L......' This is why the government are so concerned. When they recall how AIDS, Mad Cow Disease and Global Warming have killed millions on the streets of Britain, they know only too well how these deadly viruses can spread.
If YOU can offer YOUR help for these people, please contact your local M.P. c/o Disneyland, Utopia, U.K.

Only M3
22-09-2008, 07:27
Hi everyone

I dont think there is much anyone can do to help but i feel i need to talk to someone about what im feeling and i hope i get some responses and advice from people.

Where to start?

My girlfriend is a compulsive liar .. I used to speak to her for a while before we got together and when we did she told me she was 18 .. Im 21 by the way ..
Anyway i used to speak to cusins gf (at the time she told me it was her brothers gf).. So her cuzins gf told me that she is 15 not 18 n that my gf already was seeing this guy.. I couldnt belive wat i was hearing .. I ran it by my gf n she said it was a lie n not to speak to her friend again ..

About a week or so later i was speaking to my gf's mum and she told me my gf was 15..
My gf appologised and and also told me that she finished with her bf a few days bk ..

I thought ok .. A few days after that I get an email off her "ex bf" Telling me that he didnt know she was 15 and that she didnt tell him that it was over or that she was seeing me n telling him she loves him ..

It was too late .. I am in love with her and i dont want to lose her ..

I wont go into too much detail tbh because there is alot to say ..

She has faked a pregnancy and a miscarrage twice .. the second time she showed me pics of this baby which had a link to some real persons website who lost her baby ..

I confronted my gf n he blatantly lied and told me this other girl had a fake site ..

She tells me some other things too but .. I dont know wat is real and wat isnt .. thats wat really stressing me out .

It is all so stress full that When she told me she lost this first baby i almost overdosed on pills .. which come to think of it now is sickening ..
Also ive started cutting my wrist n arm because of all the stress ..

I want to confront her soo badly but I dont want to lose her .. I love her with all my heart and she means the world to me despite everything that has happened ...

Ive only been able to tell my best m8 n she thinks i should leave her n says im stupid for staying with her ... I dont wanna lose her .. I just want it all to stop ..
Ive only had 2 Girlfriends b4 n they both treated me like sh*t after i did so much for them .. I put up with soooo much just to make people happy ..

I have suspicions that she is seeing or been flirting with other guys too.. I want to trust her but there has beeen so much as i said .. i dont know wats real and whats not ..

Would someone please Give me some advice or something ..
I want to be with her n i dunno if she'd admit shes a complusive liar ... maybe coz shes scared of losing me or wateva .. I couldnt care but she wont belive me ..

How do i bring it up with her?

PLZ PLZ HELP ME OUT! Thanx for everyone who has taken the time
to read this. ty

sufc_tom
22-09-2008, 12:22
Why do people do it? There is a family trait, where I have to be honest in saying I was guilty of having when I was younger, of compulsive lying and even worse making the lies into absolute truth.

Is this just a harmless exaggeration of fact or does this represent deeper, disturbing issues?

lyndix
22-09-2008, 12:24
Its attention seeking!!!

The_DADDY
22-09-2008, 12:43
Its attention seeking!!!

Not always.
There are somtimes very good reasons someone will lie compulsively but attention seeking imo is rarely one of them.

Womerry2
22-09-2008, 16:57
Once someone has lied to you, the trust is gone, and so is the respect: They think you are so stupid that you can be lied to, and you know that they are liars. What kind of basis is that for a relationship?