View Full Version : When I first came to Sheffield I thought it'd be very working class...


Sony
01-01-2005, 18:24
... And yet this happens!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4138465.stm

Where do they get the people to pay those prices in Sheffield???

Plain Talker
01-01-2005, 18:39
Well, Sony,

apparently, the parliamentary constituency of Sheffield-Hallam is reputed to rank alongside areas as affluent as Kensington and Chelsea, for percentages of millionaires etc.

and this development is scheduled to be built in that very area...?
PT

owdlad
01-01-2005, 19:09
Oh dear, they can't even spell Ecclesall Rd properly (where's t020 when you need him) and why would anyone want to spend that amount of money, then have a snooker room and bar in it is beyond me.

Fudbeer
01-01-2005, 19:20
Do you know where abouts on Ecclesall rd south this is?

alchresearch
01-01-2005, 19:28
Number One, Deansgate in Manchester was the first Million pound apartment outside London.

Mo
01-01-2005, 19:48
Originally posted by owdlad
and why would anyone want to spend that amount of money, then have a snooker room and bar in it is beyond me.

Because not everybody with a cool £million to spend has taste. :gag:

muddycoffee
01-01-2005, 20:25
Originally posted by Fudbeer
Do you know where abouts on Ecclesall rd south this is?

My guess would be the left hand side on the way out of town where there used to be a massive care home, which was left derelict and boarded up. And it's been recently demolished.

joyphil
01-01-2005, 20:32
Chateau Kitsch is going to be a belter, isn't it? Thing is, for a million quid outside London you'd kinda expect not to have loads of scummy old 200 granders living upstairs, wouldn't you? Barmy. I moved from a rented flat in Stoke Newington to buy a nice end terrace up here, and for just reasonable money got the neighbour count down from eight to one. Splendid!

Fudbeer
01-01-2005, 20:34
Originally posted by muddycoffee
My guess would be the left hand side on the way out of town where there used to be a massive care home, which was left derelict and boarded up. And it's been recently demolished.

I know where you mean used to be Blenham nursing home think they bought the bungalow next door to.

WallBuilder
01-01-2005, 21:47
Originally posted by Fudbeer
I know where you mean used to be Blenham nursing home think they bought the bungalow next door to.

Yes the bungalow has gone which must of meant they had a fairly large area on which to build. The thing that amuses me is picturing all the crooks reading about this development and either removing bits as it get's built or waiting for the first tenants to move in and then burgling the place.
Maybe I'm just an old cynic?

venice
02-01-2005, 11:27
Originally posted by venice
ii believe the site for the 1 million pound
house s is 264 to 268 ecclesall rd south.The present houses
are to be demolished to make way for the new ones.

miniminch
02-01-2005, 13:01
I have to say you wouldnt get five double bedrooms and a bar for a million squid daaaan saaaaaaaf.:clap:

joyphil
02-01-2005, 13:10
Originally posted by miniminch
I have to say you wouldnt get five double bedrooms and a bar for a million squid daaaan saaaaaaaf.:clap:

I could happily do without the bar if it'd bring the price down a bit... after all, Sheffield has about ten squillion pubs to choose from.

Snakey_B
02-01-2005, 13:52
Originally posted by muddycoffee
My guess would be the left hand side on the way out of town where there used to be a massive care home, which was left derelict and boarded up. And it's been recently demolished.


Thats kinda correct ,the site where the care home was is a shepherd homes development , 20 homes ranging from 5 story to large style probs going for about 500,000up to about 1.2 mil(i work for them you see) the other site you talk about is bang opposite the shepherds site (i also know the metropolitan developer)

richynomates
02-01-2005, 17:45
yeah, well i hope this development doesn't get the go-ahead. it is bang opposite where Ecclesall Road South has lost two fine buildings (blenheim and the bungalow) and is currently a fine house as it is. at the current rate, ecclesall road south will have more flats than park hill.

Sam Miguel
02-01-2005, 18:50
Initially, I enquired about buying one of those, but have decided to hang loose until they build something slightly more up-market and, of course, reassuringly more expensive.

patpending
02-01-2005, 19:41
hang on sam i've got first refusal on the next ones

leddi
02-01-2005, 20:47
where do they get the idea that everyone wants to live in a flat!! i dont care if it is called an apartment. and i er also dont have £1,ooo,ooo either, i wish they would build nice houses with gardens that were affordable and not all student accomadation. even if you manage to buy a well built house in say hunters bar you have a good chance of living next to a student house.

Sheffette
02-01-2005, 22:05
I don't actually have a problem with them building apartments because it saves space at the end of the day.
Yup these flats are a tad pricey to say the least but if we want to protect what remains of our countryside then building up rather than out is the way to go.
I'd rather see them build these inner city living things and use up brownfield sites than expand further onto the greenbelt.
Sheffield gets slated for not being the most exciting town around but we have countryside on our doorstep that puts other cities to shame, and we need to hang onto it.

leddi
03-01-2005, 11:06
is the population increasing so much that we all have to be stacked on top of one another? i agree we should protect the countryside. why dont we just start building little towns underground instead?? or why dont they make the "city living" more affordable. or why dont people who want incredible views of the city buy on park hill (oh i forgot the council are buying it back or something). and why are the council and developers knocking down all the high rise to build new age tower blocks?


lemonade?

Sheffette
03-01-2005, 23:07
Originally posted by leddi
why dont we just start building little towns underground instead??

lemonade?


Are you volunteering to be first in a new generation of 'molepeople' ?

Please x

JohnnyBoi
04-01-2005, 20:45
Basically half the population of Sheffield needs to be filtered and dumped into a vast black hole somewhere that dont have any consideration for their city. Er, i think that accomodates for the majority of the council as well lol.

joyphil
05-01-2005, 17:39
Originally posted by leddi
and why are the council and developers knocking down all the high rise to build new age tower blocks?


Who could resent this? Personally, I'd rush to buy somewhere if it had piped whale music and central heating that distributed atomised incense all around. it could have soft-cornered, womb-like rooms with little niches for shrines to all sorts of religions. Just little ones as one wouldn't wish to embrace one creed too fully. That'd be bourgeois and stifling. Perhaps the floor could be one big yoga mat... Ommm... I can feel all the stress of the modern world just ebbing away as I think about it. Peace out, reach out, embrace humanity, ya...

Mind you, I wouldn't want any smelly, noisy poor people nearby. Can the council types get put in that hole thingy you mentioned?

leddi
05-01-2005, 18:46
opps i didnt mean that kind of new age lol.
i think if i had £1,000,000 to spend i would buy a house with a garden and if people want a view then there are cheaper flats available.

JohnnyBoi
05-01-2005, 19:10
If i had that money i think i would buy a house outside of Sheffield? lol

spinac
06-01-2005, 00:52
It's great to be in a city that is on the up or at least feels as if it is. My fear is that it's all speculation rather than economic fundamentals. The city can't make it's way on new flats and bars built and bought on borrowed money. Where's the new economic power in Sheffield? How many employers have come to the city lately?

And don't think other cities are watching us and doing nothing
Manchester: http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/features/2004/03/01/high_rise.shtml

Leeds: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3626397.stm


Rebecca Sorby wrote the following in an excellent article in The Sheffield Telegraph (31/12/04) -

I want to know where the visions and the aspirations for our city are. And don't go fobbing me off with redesign of the railway station or the umpteenth refurbishment of the moor and the markets. An improvement they may be but they ain't gonna win no international design award. Isn't it about time we raised the stakes?

It's natural to be defensive of your own. I spend much time telling people that Sheffield isn't that bad. In fact maybe that could be the council's new strapline - "Come to Sheffield ... it's not that bad"

Damon
06-01-2005, 09:00
Originally posted by spinac
In fact maybe that could be the council's new strapline - "Come to Sheffield ... it's not that bad"

LOL. It would certainly be an improvement on "Welcome to Sheffield - England's fourth largest city" which was on a badge handed to my mum at some bash hosted by the lord mayor! Which is pretty pathetic IMO.

gawth
06-01-2005, 21:24
In fact maybe that could be the council's new strapline - "Come to Sheffield ... it's not that bad"[/i] [/B]

Wouldnt be the first to do it.......www.birminghamitsnot****.co.uk

spinac
06-01-2005, 21:58
haha ... the guys having a laugh at birminghams expense i'd say (surely a loyal brummie even with a sense of humour wouldn't do this?) - but it's cheered me up. there's nothing like "damning with faint praise" me mate carson won't like it.

btw url is censored www.birminghamitsnotTOMTIT.co.uk
www.birminghamitsnotEARTHAKITT.co.uk

check out the trip to the beach http://www.jonbounds.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jon/brum/spagbeach.html

Does anyone remember Jeremy Clarkson's holiday in Rotherham - he went boating in the the canal - not exactly Venice is it? And now I'm way off topic. sorry!

scross
07-01-2005, 14:35
Originally posted by leddi
why dont we just start building little towns underground instead??
We all end up in underground flats eventually.

cgksheff
15-01-2005, 09:59
Just to bring this up to date:

The planning application for this development was rejected at this week's South Planning Board.
The expect to go to appeal.

Don't sell your caravan just yet.

Tony
15-01-2005, 10:17
Well the million pound flat thing was all smoke and mirrors. There is ZERO demand for such a thing in Sheffield.

Anyway, there plenty of million pound flats outside London - it's nothing new despite the claims to the contrary.

Plain Talker
15-01-2005, 11:06
the planning was refused, this is true, but the other day there was a piece in the Star, which quoted the developers (I think) as saying:-

"we were refused the planning permission at this level, but we will simply take it to appeal, and, at appeal, they will grant it....!"

crackers, no?

PT

Tony
15-01-2005, 11:44
Only 1 in 4 appeals are succesful.

t020
15-01-2005, 11:44
I read either last night or the night before about a development in Dore, planned to be 3 storeys of apartments, but it got rejected the first time around on the grounds of being too high. The plans were resubmitted some time later, with the development planned to be a foot shorter, and the council passed it! :loopy:

I think the council just like to show the planners who's boss for the first application. In all seriousness though, these developments threaten the character and uniqueness of leafy suburbs and stink of over-development. Large, modern apartment complexes may be alright for the city centre but I think they're risking the success of Sheffield's suburbs by allowing so many of these developments to go ahead.