HI just letting people know Rick Young will be teaching a seminar on JEET KUNE DO and mixed martial arts on 20th september at The Source Centre at meadowhall

also regular classes taught there as well on Mondays and Wednesday (not by rick)
leave a message or pm me for more details
thanks :D

How much is it? That's sounds like a good one...

Is mark still teaching at the source?

The cost is £25 for 4 hours not to sure of the start time yet,
and i know its going to be a good one never been to a bad one with Rick yet :lol:


yes i'm still teaching at the source, when you coming down?

Mark... that you?
Didn't know you were a member. PM me some details about the JEET KUNE DO seminar!

Cheers dude!

Might pop down to see you at 'work' :lol: this weekend mate!

welcome anytime at S.R's you know where i am Friday and saturday's :lol:

will send you details later when i get home

Hi i am looking any classes in Jeet Kune Do in Sheffield, can anybody help, i have looked in the yellow pages but can't find anyone teaching it.

theres a jkd concept class at the source gym at meadowhall.:)

Kane,

Bruce Lee designed JKD with the blueprint of Wing Chun. You can see the shadow of Wing Chun in his moives particularly in the coliseum in Rome when he fought with Chuk Norris in the Way of Dragon and in Enter the Dragon.

Sleepingcat

Thanks Tom i wil give them a ring,do you know if they are any good or have you got any more details
thanks

Kane,

The instructor is a friend of mine and I can say honestly (as I have practiced many martial arts) that he is very good.
I only met him by chance and only known him for just over a year so it's not like I'm bigging him up for the sake of it.

He knows his stuff.
If you PM this guy (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=673) you should get your answer!

phone 01142568800

enquiries@thesource.meadowhall.co.uk

i was unimpressed with the teacher, i expected great things (which is wrong of me i know) because i'd heard he was from the combat zone, i didnt like how he spoke out of place about other arts, and something he said during training (which i thought was mad)

but go along and see if its right for you, if you are doing it as a fan of bruce lee there are other ways.

hope you enjoy it, from what i can remember it is on monday and wednesday, if you go then, i'll be in the gym next door.

Tom I'm sorry you where unimpressed by me,(i'd like to know why, then i can improve, and yes i did have the COMBAT ZONE, how many times did you train with, me once maybe ? and you base you opinion on one session?) but i speak from what i've seen, i say what i mean and mean what i say, i have been in martial arts for over 20 years , i have seen some crap in my time and a lot of it has been from the traditional arts, i spent 12 years training in them(so i think i can say at least i tryed it more than once),but i have had some good teachers, and i have kept some of it, even i know JKD has got it's faults, its 35 years old. bruce first used the term JEET KUNE DO in 1968/69
so its out of date all ready,
Kane pm if you want and i will try and help you out.

cheers DB hope to see you soon down at SR'S or come training.

Train Hard, Train Safe but make sure you Train!!!!!

Mark

Kane mon,wed,and thursday 7-00pm till 8-30pm at the Source Meadowhall

Hope to see you soon

I used to study Lao Chi Kung Fu (Flowing Spirit) in Birkenhead, but stopped a few years ago.

I'd like to start up a decent form of kung fu again soon. any suggestions?

Hi, Red 2,

If you are interested in Chinese kung fu, Sifu William Lai is training Wing Chun at the Sheffield Chinese Community Centre. Perhaps, you visit his website at www.geocitied.com/williamlaiwingchun for details.

Sleepingcat

Sleepingcat,

The page doesn't load, and has about 6-7 pop ups when attempting!

DB

Sorry, DaBouncer,

My mistake the correct address is www.geocities.com/williamlaiwingchun

Sleepingcat

Hello tombodojoj, in response to your comments about The Source fitness suite. All the fitness instructors are fully qualified in Anatomy, physiology, cardiovascular and resistance exercise they also have many years of experience behind them in the sports of bodybuilding, boxing, martial arts, triathlon, running and studio based activities.
On the occasions when the instructors are seen sitting in the corner (at the instructor station) they are updating clients exercise programmes and administrative duties. that is looking after the customers....
With regards to your comments and I quote"i see so many people whos form is wrong and they walk past them and don't tell them" you fail to specify what your personal qualifications are to make such a statement in the first place, how do you know what correct form is ? In respect to your comments about the Technogym machines only giving routines for the major muscles if you could be specific to which machine and which exercise you are refering to I could give an exact answer..besides which anyone performing isolation exercises before acheiving a good overall balanced physique would be doing so either as a direct response to...
a) rehabilitaion b) sports specific c) ill informed
if you would make it clear to the staff which one of these criteria fits the bill they would be only too pleased to address your needs and offer alternative exercise.
As to the fact that there isn't a bench press....a bench press can be
a) an invaluable tool, offering a compound exercise incorporating synergistic muscles resulting in a great effect....but only in the hands of an experience trainee
or

b) an accident waiting to happed in the hands of an in-experienced trainee

The reason we don't have one is that for general populations it is much safer and effective to have resistance machines so as not to put either joints or muscles at risk at any time.

I would like to offer this oportunity to thank you for your comments and give me the chance to reply...
Please feel free to come back to me at any time with regards to this or any other matter..
If me or my staff can be of any assistance to you either in our fitness suite or on-line do not hesitate to ask.

Remember ...anyone who is a member of a gym or fitness suite should make sure they use ALL the facilities in order to get the best out of it, get the results they are looking for and ultimately get value for money...
that should also include asking the staff for assistance

Hi Tom its me again, the unimpressive martial arts instructor, but then i'm not out to impress anyone, so i dont care if you think i'm good or not, i did think at least you would have replyed to my post,i thought about PM-ing you but as you posted your opinion about me on an open forum i thought what the heck i would as well.
you seem to have dabbled in a lot in martial arts going on your other posts.you have done Wing Chun,lau gar, muay thai,karate,JKD, and boxing But you found taijutsu so much better your words not mine.the thing is how long did you spend in these arts? one session like the one you did with me or did you train JKD some where else as well,sorry but to to study some thing you have to do it more than once, well at least thats what i think please tell me if i'm wrong?

i do hope you reply.

TRAIN HARD TRAIN SAFE BUT MAKE SURE YOU TRAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark

ok

1. i am working away at the moment and the town i am in doesnt seem to have the greatest internet access in the cafes, so sorry i havent been replying and cant reply just yet, :)

2. i in no way intended to offend anyone, hence why i still put all the details and i tell my close friends to give it a try and see if it works for them, I found it didnt work FOR ME and that is it!!!i no way discourage people from trying it at all.

3.when people are using thier backs to pull up on bicep curls, and i know the little corner is for updating peoples programs but many a time i still see the instructors sat there doing nothing!!now unless they have infa red beams coming from thier heads to work the computers i am wrong on that one, but i posted it on here to get peoples opinions not slag the source off otherwise i wouldnt still be a member, :)

i will reply when i have internet over 10k. byebye

Hi tombodojoj,
you still don't specify your credentials so as to justify your statements...maybe it would be helpful for both parties if we chat next time your in...look forward to speaking to you JD

i don't have any gym qualifications my opinions on training are based on what i have learnt, (through reading, being shown, being told) which is how everyone learns and if i am wrong then i will take that as a learn so anyone please feel free to tell me :) some of my friends are fitness trainers in concord sports centre and the one up near norton that i can never remember the name of, some friends were body builders, and please don't take anything i say badly, i was surprised there was no bench press as is everyone i talk to when they say whats in your gym, i get on great with my trainer, he's cool and we are going to talk about my program when i can get back in. we all expect different things (which is wrong of course) so i posted questions and thoughts on here to get others opinions. thankyou for replying:) siminstructor.and i will probably see you soon oh and could you tell me if boxercise has started up yet please?

Hi Tom its me again, the unimpressive martial arts instructor, but then i'm not out to impress anyone, so i dont care if you think i'm good or not,

so why did you type this? i know its you because of your user name, i know what i wrote you know what i wrote so this was obviously wrote for other people to look at??no??

sorry but to to study some thing you have to do it more than once, well at least thats what i think please tell me if i'm wrong?

i couldnt tell you if you were wrong mate, because im not you, that is your opinion and if thats what you believe then thats what you believe, i believe different and someone else will believe different, i do not believe that peoples words are useless even if they have only done one lesson, or two or three, or 5ooo, whatever,

yes i do find taijutsu so much better, you might not, so thats kinda obvious, no???

i never said anything bad about jkd, or you, i just gave my opinion of the class, and i don't know about other people but if i am thinking of going somewhere i will hope to find people who have been and can share thier experience with me.

some ways of teaching i get on with, some i don't, don't take it as a personal attack because it's not meant like that at all, it's like anything, everyone has thier own way of doing things some people like it some dont????

i did think at least you would have replyed to my post

i am replying now, sorry if its not in an acceptable timescale for you maybe on your next post you could put please reply within 3-5 days, or reply expected within 1 week??

as i said i have been working away, and i have today off so im back in sheffield, but back away again tom after the damien rice gig (so if anyone from here is going give me a shout we'll have a drink) and i'll be back into sheffield on sunday night probably so you know when i'll be able to reply now you wont have to post something like that will you?

buffu ikkan

Hi Tom ,thank you for replying,
these are answered in the order that you posted , just following JKD to the letter. If you understand anything about JKD you will know what i mean.

Because I can!!
I'm glad you know its me because of my user name quite apt dont you think (but then i do put my real name on the end of my post) every one knows what you wrote!! So you obviously wrote your first post so people could read it, otherwise you would have pm'd the person asking, dont you think?
So i have to take it personally because you chose to make what you think public!!

I dont think i am wrong , (but im never wrong just ask the wife LOL) to study something you have to do it more than once , otherwise it wont even have an impact on you, not after an hour and a half, what is that they say "repertition is the mother of all skills" , but then like you say you believe what you believe and you are entitled to it.

Can't comment on Taijutsu because I havent seen any, that was your comment that it was so much better after dabbling in other arts not studying.
I always base my opion on something when i at least have a basic grasp of it , or at least tried it more than once.
And we still dont know how long you spent studying those other arts?

If you read what you wrote , yes you are right that you never said anything bad about JKD but im sorry "I was unimpressed by the teacher " that sounds bad to me and i would like to know what you thought was mad of me to say?

You posted about tennis on the 13/02/04 8-39pm i posted my first reply on 5/02/04 12-47am so maybe you were thinking about what to say or would you have replied if you had not been prompted to?

I look forward to your reply
Yours in Martial Arts
JAY_KD (Mark)

TRAIN HARD , TRAIN SAFE , BUT MAKE SURE YOU TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!

DB come down some time and i will see what i can do for you but people pay the The source not me. (you tight git).

hi Kane, did you manage to go the class for the jeet kune do ? I use to do it in london and would like to start it up here let me know what it is like

A mate of mine started Jeet Kune Do yesterday after I told him about them doing it at The Source. He had Mark (jay_kd) as his instructor and was very impressed which I am not suprised at considering the amount of experience the instructor has.

I will hopefully be starting some other classes with Mark (grappling, kickboxing etc) but I strongly recommend Jeet June Do at The Source if anyone is thinking about starting it.

I'm also joing the gym there :thumbsup:

Gaz

With regards to jay_kd's comment about basing your opinion on one session.

People's opinions are largely based on a first impression, which is the only thing we have to work from, our next action is then based on that impression. It is the first impression that determines whether or not someone comes back to a class, the person may just not like the class and may be put off by a number of factors, and it is there decision as to if they come back or not, and they are certainly not going to keep on going to something that they don’t like, just so that they are allowed an opinion.

People may be intimidated by large classes and find a smaller class more friendly, they may prefer a class with an age range close to their own, but also attitude and manners of the instructor just might not sit right with the person.

I’m deviating :-)

Anyway, I think a everyone’s opinion is equally as valid, whether your a novice, a black belt instructor studying for 15 years, a dabbler in martial arts, or just shown up for one lesson, your opinion should count.

everyones opinion is valid, but you still have to be able to back up your opinon,because remember first opinons have been known to be wrong,and if you dont try it more than once how do you know you are right or wrong

jay_kd
(Mark)

After doing something for an 100th time you still cant know that your right, as the next time you may be wrong.

Opinions arn't about being right or wrong. It is just what you believe. You just have to trust in your own judgement, even if it is after 1 session.

so if you dont know if you are right after doing someting 100 times you can't give your opinion on it because you dont know
what you believe to be right.

you have an opinion because you think you are right, you believe in some thing because you think you are right, thats what makes us what we are.
so i guess we are going to have to agree to disagee

Train hard, train safe, but train !!!!!

jay_kd
Mark

No agreeing to disagree, as i agree with you :-)

Thats exacly what i meant.

my name is jamie beaumont i am and have been a full time martial arts instructor in rotherham for coming up to five years
I had the great pleasure of being taught privatly by mark for over a year before he moved premises and we lost touch.
Being a full time instructor and being involved in the martial arts for 16 years im a pretty good judge of whether an instructor is a talker or the real deal so to speak
I came to mark as a taekwondo/wing chun sytlist and through his guidance and excellent instruction i became involved in numerous martial arts ,ju-jitsu and muay thai to name a few and am on way to becoming an apprentice instructor in jkd/kali under guro bob breen

Mark hayes is an excellent insructor/martial artist,whose approachable down to earth manner deffinaltly qualify him as someone you should train with if you get the chance.

Cheers Jamie nice to see i've had an impact on some one :)
hope your training is going well maybe see you soon,
maybe see you in London in July
all the best Mark

hi mark,

its joe one of your old students from the combat zone, just wondering where you are now based and what the tuition fees are. I've searched hi and low to contact you until I found this forum.

good to see you are still teaching mark, and will hope to sign up for some more classes with you, all the best and hope to see you soon.

please do not heitate to pm. me it will be good to hear from you sifu, thanx.

heyup mark, its joe again.

was just wondering what stuff you are still teaching, are you still teaching the similar stuff you taught at combat zone or is there a different syllabus involved now.

I am glad you are still teaching jkd, from my expirience it would be hard to find such an exellent teacher as yourself, anywhere else in sheffield.

as I said, hope to see you soon and get back into the jkd routine.

I really have missed having classes with you, also I still remember most of the stuff you have taught me e.g eskrima double stick, jun fan jkd, I found all of your classes very interesting and positive.

please email me at JoeySav@hotmail.com

see you soon from your friend joe.

Hi Joe nice to hear from you,
the syllabus has changed but the format is still the same (hard training) a lot of Jun Fan, we are still doing the Eskrima /Kali as well,
we are at the Source at meadowhall on Mon, Wed and Thrusdays 7pm till 8.30pm, £4 per session or join the gym and its all in the gym membership,
i am also teaching one on one or small groups.

Glad you enjoyed the training you did with me,
hope to see you training soon
Mark

Hi Mark, its joe.

thanks very much for the info, also is THE SOURCE based within the meadowhall shopping center or around the retail park area.

I've been recently learning some wing chun for just over a year, some of the training involved seemed quite traditional, for example very strict footwork involved, also involved weapon training with Staff.

I particulary enjoyed it, but there are some things that I would respectively say would not work and others that would work for me.

It's the same in most martial arts each individual has got to think which things they have learnt are useful to them and the other things that are not. At the end of the day its what works best for the individual.

And I can honestly say that Jkd, Jun fan Jkd works best for me with it having such a mixed combination of martial arts involved within it.

I really enjoyed it at combat zone, miss training there. anyhow i'm a PC and Networking engineer now m8 so any problems with your computer just ask me.

Also could you let me know how much you charge for private tuition or small groups m8, as I am very interested in getting back into training.

I'm on holiday for 2 weeks, im off to greece. so I will hopefully see you after I get back.

all the best mark and i'll see you soon mate.

Originally posted by jkdSav
Hi Mark, its joe.

thanks very much for the info, also is THE SOURCE based within the meadowhall shopping center or around the retail park area.

I've been recently learning some wing chun for just over a year, some of the training involved seemed quite traditional, for example very strict footwork involved, also involved weapon training with Staff.

I particulary enjoyed it, but there are some things that I would respectively say would not work and others that would work for me.

It's the same in most martial arts each individual has got to think which things they have learnt are useful to them and the other things that are not. At the end of the day its what works best for the individual.

And I can honestly say that Jkd, Jun fan Jkd works best for me with it having such a mixed combination of martial arts involved within it.

I really enjoyed it at combat zone, miss training there. anyhow i'm a PC and Networking engineer now m8 so any problems with your computer just ask me.

Also could you let me know how much you charge for private tuition or small groups m8, as I am very interested in getting back into training.

I'm on holiday for 2 weeks, im off to greece. so I will hopefully see you after I get back.

all the best mark and i'll see you soon mate.

As far as I know The Source is actually in Meadowhall itself, although I'm not entirely sure whereabouts other than that it's somewhere in the vicinity of the Oasis.

I'm not Mark but I just thought I'd try and help :thumbsup:

I saw some JKD fighters on tv about a year ago, and noticed that they used a lot of low kicks with the instep. I've seen similar moves in Wing Chun, but these kicks reminded me more of the low kicks in Savate, called Le coup de pied bas. Am I correct here, or wide of the mark? I recall a Shukokai Karate instructor once telling me that, if you watch closely, the kicks Bruce Lee uses in the movies are largely from Savate, rather than from the Chinese arts. His use of arm extensions suggests this, and at one point in "The Game of Death", he seems to employ the French chasse side-kick. What do you think? It is known that Lee did rate Savate very highly.

Does anyone know of any jeet kune do classes in sheffield or anything similar with lots of sparring?

cheers

Ian

JKd class?
Then go to meadowhall sorry i mean the source at meadowhall

if you want somethign with lots of sparring theres www.sheffieldkickboxing.com

Theres a lot of guys(and girls) at that gym who love doing laods of rounds of sparring some of them are thai boxers but most of them compete in full contact kickboxing.
Theres even a few champions there, they have the Inter University Cruiser weight champion training there and the WKA low kick kickboxing champion trainign there too.

dont they have anymore JKD classes in sheffield apart from at the source!!!
doesnt someone else teach JKD at the Combat Zone anyomore?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I have not been at the combat zone now for nearly 3 years, but i am moving back into town in the next couple of weeks to my new centre
Sheffield Martial Arts Centre
unit 7 Norfolk Barracks
Clough Road (Entrance on Lancing Road)
Sheffield
S2 4EE

As far as i know i am the only Instructor for JUN FAN/JEET KUNE DO in Sheffield.

hope to see you training soon monkeymatt

jay_kd
Mark Hayes

thx. my mum said shell be able to take me now (im only 14).
please keep me up to date of the times and things whenever possible. thx again.