Gor blimey, what a kerfuffle....(thanks scross).

Had to M/Hall today (28/12/04) to return some stuff and spend some dosh and fully expected the car parks to be full, which they were but the thing which suprised me the most was the attitude of some of the other drivers.

As Mrs Dary had took the family car to work with her, this morning I was reduced suffering the works van and therefore had to use the car parks near Argos & Sainsburys. I drove up and down like all the other parking hopefulls and eventually saw this couple walking back to their car with a trolley with a few bags of shopping in it.

They unloaded the shopping and the lady got in the passenger side while the bloke, who was the driver by the way, took the trolley back. The whole time Im sat holding up the traffic with a big van.

To me common sense with dictate that the passenger should take the trolley back while the driver moves the car and lets someone else park and also goes to the trolley park to pick the passenger up to save their legs a bit

Walking back to the van I was watching others trying to park and noticed how teritorial drivers were being.

After leaving MH, I went to Rotherham and had to nip in to B&Q and this bloke standing next to his own car waved at me to show me he was pulling out and directed me in to his spot.

All this leads to one question. Are people in Rotherham more friendly or are they just better at using car parks.?

Probably a bit of both mate.

And how do you know the person at B&Q was from Rotherham ? And how do you know the people at Meadowhall are all from Sheffield ?
I found parking great today, got closer to the main doors at Meadowhall than any other day, not because it was quiet, but because there was them parking guys directing traffic.

I guess they close an area off to incoming cars and only allow cars to leave, as I drove down I got through just before they put cones across the road, round directed through to the underground area and right by the escalators. I'm glad every dosnt act like this, someone has to fill the overspill areas out in the wet, cold mud lol.

Here's a tip for you if you only want to nip into M/hall quickly and the car parks are very busy.

You can park at the Railway station for 30 mins at the drop off zone, very handy if you are making a flying visit.

Originally posted by Scutts
Here's a tip for you if you only want to nip into M/hall quickly and the car parks are very busy.

You can park at the Railway station for 30 mins at the drop off zone, very handy if you are making a flying visit.

Dont tell everybody scutts! that was my secret parking bit. Now it'll be full!:P

To that snotty nosed COW who got out of her car to tell me off for parking in a mother child space you can go to hell. What kind of parents take their baby to a bloody shopping centre on the busiest day of the year you IDIOTS. I wish i hadnt have moved but i wasnt thinking straight cos id been driving around like an idiot for half an hour looking for a space. I hope you read this forum you snobby toffee nosed DOG of a woman.

As for your pathetic argument that you needed the wider space to get the buggy out, it was in the boot you stupid woman so why the hell did you need more space and, again, why the hell bring a buggy to meadowhall on THE BUSIEST DAY OF THE YEAR when you can barely move in there as it is.

When youre stupid enough to conceive another brat in this overpopulated world then youve got to be prepared to sacrifice many things in life, and leaving the husband at home to look after the brat instead of lugging it along with you so you can swarm round the bits of tat that theyre selling off a bit cheaper than usual, is one of them. Next time i will NOT move and yes ill gladly be clamped just to prove my point.

Just cos youve given birth to a brat doesnt mean you need special parking spaces. What do you want a bloody medal? Maybe they should have special red carpets from the mother and kid spaces to thank you for not using contraceptives.

I hope you enjoyed your shopping trip you horrible horrible woman.

Have you tried Natra Calm ? Its very good :suspect:

Me thinks that Kitykat has issues.

We often use those parent and child place's but only when Ive got my little un with me.

He's ten now, but there is no age limit on them .

Originally posted by kittykat
To that snotty nosed COW who got out of her car to tell me off for parking in a mother child space you can go to hell. What kind of parents take their baby to a bloody shopping centre on the busiest day of the year you IDIOTS.

I am guessing by your very rude remarks that you dont have Children? What if you were to have them... you needed to go to the shops but had no one to look after the little ones for you?

Maybe this woman had no choice... everyone is entitled to go shopping with their Children no matter what time of the year it is...

I dont have any Children of my own at the moment... but i do happen to agree with Mother & Child spaces as Mothers then dont have the struggle of trying to balance the shopping the kiddies along with buggies etc... Should the Mother have a partner or another adult with them then i feel they shouldn't use the space due to having help at hand...

Hope this makes sense :?

Hehe I agree Kittykat! I dragged my poor boyfriend round Meadowhell yesterday and we came to the same conclusion. If I were a Mother, I'd consider myself to be a very bad one for putting a child through that. Childcare is readily available, its highly unlikely that there's NO ONE to look after the child. Infact, I'm going babysitting today to save three under 10's of the trauma of sales shopping with their Mother at Meadowhell.

As for getting out of your car to tell someone off about where they've parked... Well thats ridiculous. First of all its childish, she's only got the face on because you got there first. Second of all, although you were a little naughty parking in there anyway without little ones, you had been pushed to the limit after driving round for ages... I don't believe that you make a habit of it... Thirdly what kind of a Mother would get out of her car and presumably leave the child alone in there, just to get one over on another driver?! The world's gone mad!

I don't see what the deal is anyway with these parking spaces... They're a fraction of an inch larger than normal ones... Don't be so soft next time. You don't know her, she doesn't know you... Its a dog eat dog world out there! Next time, tell angry mothers your off to pick your child up from the Creche... Then stomp off and hit the shops.

Yeah while your at it, park ANYWHERE you please, you poor things have been driving around so long *sob* Dont stop at the parent an child points, get into the disabled and delivery bays too.

Kit Kat

I suppose you think it's OK to park in disabled spaces - after all, what are cripples doing going to Meadowhall at busy times with their wheelchairs and crutches - blocking the aisles, falling down and making the place look untidy - especially when you need to shop there.

Originally posted by PENGUIN
Yeah while your at it, park ANYWHERE you please, you poor things have been driving around so long *sob* Dont stop at the parent an child points, get into the disabled and delivery bays too.
...and while you're at it "kittykat", it might be quicker home if you ignore the one way streets, so what if some selfish swine wants to come the right way down it. If they stop and say anything just come on here and bad mouth 'em.

:loopy:

kittykat

What a sad person you are.

You have a go at the woman? You're lucky she didn't have a pop at you!

People like you make me sick

Originally posted by kittykat
To that snotty nosed COW who got out of her car to tell me off for parking in a mother child space you can go to hell. What kind of parents take their baby to a bloody shopping centre on the busiest day of the year you IDIOTS.

i have to say i agree with some bits but man you get angry!:hihi: i went to m'hall the other day to take some clothes back and the amount of time i got rammed with bloody prams. the sight of unhappy kids was unbelievable, its too hot for them and they look miserable - the tears - not good
i know you cant park in disabled, but it actually doesnt matter with parent/child - its just courtsey.
youre comment about contreceptives (excuse spelling) was a bit harsh though, chill out:D
some people do abuse the fact that they have children and park where the hell they want, with or without kids. i had a stupid woman nearly crash into me, as she kerbed it in crystal peaks retail park. she just parked up on pavement in the biggest car ever! truck i mean and everyone was frowning at her and commenting. she looked a bit snotty actually.;) wish i had 4x4bmw
anyway kitty, have a stress on here, thats what its for. some comments back will be helpful some will be s**t.
happy shoppping (stick to internet !):D

i think i used the wrong words when i said abused the fact, so change those to nicer words, thank you xx:D

In the days when I used the ashtray in the car (sans baby) I used to save it up for when I saw people like Kittykat using dedicated spaces, I would then proceed to empty over their windscreens (better on a wet day)

Lessons need to be learnt!

BTW kittykat - STFU

speaking of ashtrays i hate people who empty theirs at side of road or throw things from their car - gross
coopster what does btw mean and stfu? sorry to be dim only just worked out what lol means hahah

btw = by the way

stfu = shut the f*** up

I agree about dumping ashtrays on the road, but these scummers need to be taught a lesson.

I went to Meadowhall on Monday, parked straightaway in the overflow and was probably inside the building way before any of the idiots who were determined to park in the carpark.

And yes, I took my son - does that make me a bad person? he loved it cos he got to sit on my shoulders.

To all the childless people out there who have jumped on kittykats bandwagon - I hope your fallopian tubes shrivel and wilt when it comes to the time when you do want children.

Originally posted by coopster1974

And yes, I took my son - does that make me a bad person? he loved it cos he got to sit on my shoulders.

To all the childless people out there who have jumped on kittykats bandwagon - I hope your fallopian tubes shrivel and wilt when it comes to the time when you do want children.
cheers for the info about abbrev's
kids are cool when u can sit em on shoulders and they can see and they dont get squished or cigarette in eye(people still smoke in there)
but ur comment on childlish people is out of order sorry, but thats just nasty. i have not got kids yet, but i know many people who have and they love the odd break away so they can shop more efficiently. its prams that get annoying and clueless parents who think everyone should move just cos they have babies.
i know that when i have them - ill be proud and want to show them off but not when its as busy as that - kids should be at home playing or something

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
speaking of ashtrays i hate people who empty theirs at side of road or throw things from their car - gross
coopster what does btw mean and stfu? sorry to be dim only just worked out what lol means hahah
When i see people doing this its my job to issue £50 fines for the offence of littering...Very satisfying!

can you do the same to people who spit gum on the floor?

Well all I can say is dont comment until you have walked the path.

In life there are many things that are easy to comment on without any experience. I regard people who do this as clueless.

Come back when you have kids and are sticking to your word about not taking them to Meadowhall and then maybe we can have a discussion where both parties have the background to comment.

Deal?

ANYTHING that constitues to the defacement of an area by litter...so yes. I have fined for as little as Gum, Cigarette ends, corners of sweet wrappers... Its all litter.

Originally posted by cruella
When i see people doing this its my job to issue £50 fines for the offence of littering...Very satisfying!

Am very interested in this - how do you do it? What if the person just legs it? Do you chase them?

What if they have no cash - do you take their name and address and trust its a real one?

They are sent in the post for offences from cars, They dont pay cash there and then they have to take it to Howden House to pay.

Originally posted by cruella
They are sent in the post for offences from cars, They dont pay cash there and then they have to take it to Howden House to pay.

But what about the pedestrians that get collared on fargate etc?

We take their details and issue the fine on the spot.

Originally posted by cruella
We take their details and issue the fine on the spot.

Which takes me back a few posts - what if they start running off?

And what checks have you got in place to ensure correct name and address etc?

I will answer any questions PM ,not in an open forum. Its my job after all.

Originally posted by cruella
When i see people doing this its my job to issue £50 fines for the offence of littering...Very satisfying!

Do you even go up to big rough looking blokes and fine them ?
Do they pay-up ?

Originally posted by cruella
I will answer any questions PM ,not in an open forum. Its my job after all.

I look forward to it - something I've always wondered about.

Originally posted by nick2
Do you even go up to big rough looking blokes and fine them ?
Do they pay-up ?
Yes everyone gets fined who ever they are.

Originally posted by coopster1974
Well all I can say is dont comment until you have walked the path.

In life there are many things that are easy to comment on without any experience. I regard people who do this as clueless.

Come back when you have kids and are sticking to your word about not taking them to Meadowhall and then maybe we can have a discussion where both parties have the background to comment.

Deal?
fortunatley i am honoured to care for my friends kids lots and we do fun things that they want, id prob take em to cinema at mhall retail park but thats it. im still wuite young and think young. i remember being a kid and HATED shopping cos it was BORING, gees wicks on a sunday :gag: im not clueless im just being sensible. being squashed by ignorant people at shops does my head in, never mind kids - so not fair on them. am sure its better to shop sith kiddies when they can enjoy it, when its quieter. i understand though if you work and its prob the only time you can.
i think pushing a pram about would do my head in, id prob get one of those carriers and hang him/her to my chest or back

Originally posted by cruella
Yes everyone gets fined who ever they are.
i want ur job!

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
i think pushing a pram about would do my head in, id prob get one of those carriers and hang him/her to my chest or back

What you will find is that its very very very satisfying pushing a pram about. The feeling you get when some div in front decides to suddenly stop and they get the full weight of pram and kid running up their heels is amazing. I used to do it on purpose - looking out for the noobs, slowly wandering about. And BAM, they turn round straight into the Silver Cross - woohoo - another kill for me & boy.

Top tip for prams and Meadowhall - go into it with an absolute carefree attitude - the only people who get wound up is everyone else.

yeah i do hate people who dordle (is that a word?) and just stop dead in front of you. i normally get a chin in my fore head (am vvv short). am normally on a mission when shopping, i know what i want and im in and out (now i sound like a man hehe)
bet you get loads of doseys near ARGOS hehe:D

Originally posted by PerlOfWisdom
Kit Kat

I suppose you think it's OK to park in disabled spaces - after all, what are cripples doing going to Meadowhall at busy times with their wheelchairs and crutches - blocking the aisles, falling down and making the place look untidy - especially when you need to shop there.

Oh... I park in disabled spaces now do i? First i knew of it love.

The fact is disabled are not disabled by choice, but a woman going shopping on the busiest day of the year with a husband (who could have stayed at home and looked after the kid by the way) and a small kid is doing so by (misguided) choice.

It's people who stop dead in their tracks that wind me up & people use their prams as battering rams to shove people out the way.

Coopster seems like a really nice parent doesn't he people? Emptying ashtrays onto car windscreens and ramming people with a pushchair, what wonderful enlightened kids he'll have when they grow up. If he ever rammed into me or emptied an ashtray onto my windscreen i'd have it out with him.

I always follow the simple rule for Parking in Meadowhall... DONT GO TO THE PLACE :gag:

Originally posted by nez75
Coopster seems like a really nice parent doesn't he people? Emptying ashtrays onto car windscreens and ramming people with a pushchair, what wonderful enlightened kids he'll have when they grow up. If he ever rammed into me or emptied an ashtray onto my windscreen i'd have it out with him.

Then make sure you park where you should and dont dawdle like a mongy nob!!!

hmmmmm I've never had it out with a woman before.............




ps read my damn posts again -

1. Ashtray - it mentions "sans baby" this means I used to do it before the baby was born - muppet

2. Pram - no longer used -

Try and get used to grammar ie past and present tense

Originally posted by kittykat
a woman going shopping on the busiest day of the year with a husband (who could have stayed at home and looked after the kid by the way) and a small kid is doing so by (misguided) choice.
Whereas you were forced to be there by ?...

...or lets put it another way...

..."a woman going shopping on the busiest day of the year... ...is doing so by (misguided) choice."

Sound familiar ?

It could equally apply to you, don't ya think ?

dont mean to open up another can of worms but i was there to earn money not to shop.

*Awaits further abuse*

Originally posted by kittykat
dont mean to open up another can of worms but i was there to earn money not to shop.

*Awaits further abuse*

No abuse from me but surely staff are given priority parking.. Just not in Disabled or Parent spaces ?

Staff are supposed to park in the overspill so the customers can park closer by but as i finished at 10 i didnt fancy walking all that way in the dark - especially as the close by overspill was totally full so it would have been quite a long way. I think ill just leave now i think ive totally lost this argument :blush:

The spaces ARE wider, and I hope that one day someone who can't park in a mother and baby space parks next to you and the child opens the door hard and smashes a big dent into your door you silly cow. Try parking in a normal space when some tW**ts are parked so close to the line you have to climb out of the sun roof to get out, then try and get your child out of the back. Everyone has a right to go to Meadowhall, not just selfish stupid self centered tossers! Normal people do have families, and families do spend time together, or maybe you think only hard faced cows can be allowed to go there????

I dont think people should take their kids into Meadowhell on busy days as well... just too much hassle & stress for the parents.

As well as proving a nuisance for other customers wishing to shop at Meadowhell..

Also the same goes to supermarkets on busy days too!

Originally posted by ANGELUS
I dont think people should take their kids into Meadowhell on busy days as well... just too much hassle & stress for the parents.

As well as proving a nuisance for other customers wishing to shop at Meadowhell..

Also the same goes to supermarkets on busy days too!

Like I mentioned before - if you have kids, go to Meadowhall with a carefree attitude, the only people who get wound up is the other shoppers who constantly moan about people bringing kids to Meadowhall, mmmmmmmm theres a few on here. - Me , the wife and kids have a great day each and everytime we go.

The people you should be moaning about are the chav teens who go with no money but just wander round in packs, these are the ones who make it too busy.

Kittykat - you work in the service industry, your wages are paid by people like the woman you spoke of earlier. Nice to see customer service in action!! You have been told where staff should park - WHATS YOUR PROBLEM?????

I have to admitt I went to murderhell yesterday and it was horrible. I do not like it at the best of times but as they have shut the t-moblie shop in town I had to brave the crowds in murderhell.

I do have to agree with kittykat that it is unfair to expect staff to walk across deserted car parks at the end of their shifts. I used to work in an out of town shopping centre a few years back and it is pretty scary to have to walk 15 mins across a deserted car park at 10:30 at night when every one else has left, (I'd much rather walk through town on my own at that time of night, at least there are people around)

Also when working in a shopping centre that is very busy to park you have to waste a good extra 15/30 mins finding a park space /walking to the store which you don't get paid for. If you work every day this builds up quickly, and when you get paid shop money which tends to be c**p it's even more annoying. (and are doing double your contracted hours to help out)

As for disabled and child/ parent spaces I agree with them totally, but i also think that the shopping centres should have parking attendents to book people who are not using them properly. The amunt of people that abuse them spaces makes them almost a waste of time.

Originally posted by kittykat
dont mean to open up another can of worms but i was there to earn money not to shop.

*Awaits further abuse*

So you were going to park in a parents and child space, while WORKING?

Therefore being there a considerable amount of time???

Jesus.

Originally posted by kittykat
Staff are supposed to park in the overspill so the customers can park closer by but as i finished at 10 i didnt fancy walking all that way in the dark -
I work at the childrens hospital. There is no staff parking at all, any time of the year and staff have no choice but to either use public transport or face a long walk to their cars at some vey unsocial hours.
Why didn't you just get the bus?

Originally posted by scross
I work at the childrens hospital. There is no staff parking at all, any time of the year and staff have no choice but to either use public transport or face a long walk to their cars at some vey unsocial hours.
Why didn't you just get the bus?

I was going to ask why people don't use the park and ride, but I didn't want to get my head bitten off.
I know it costs a bit to park in the park and ride but compared to the mad antics that parking at Meadowhall seems to cause and the associated temper tantrums and "parking rage" it might be worth it ?

i went wednesday but went on the train i dont no why more people dont use this service as the train was empty and then you dont have to worry about car-parking

Utterly agree with everything you have said Kittykat. Why parents with children are entitled to these places is beyond me. It will not hurt a toddler to walk an extra few yards.

Perhaps parent with child spaces are contributing to the childhood obesety problem...................

Originally posted by Goon
Why parents with children are entitled to these places is beyond me. It will not hurt a toddler to walk an extra few yards.


The main purpose of properly set-out Parent/Child parking spaces is to have wider spaces between individual bays. This allows doors to be fully opened and prams, buggys and backpacks to be brought alongside. It also allows children to be brought out of the car without fear of them getting splatted by some short-sighted, short-tempered, short-of-time fool.

The proximity of these spaces to the shop/store is of less significance to me. To be honest, placing them a little further away might reduce the occurrence of the problems being vented here.

Originally posted by kittykat
To that snotty nosed COW who got out of her car to tell me off for parking in a mother child space you can go to hell. What kind of parents take their baby to a bloody shopping centre on the busiest day of the year you IDIOTS. ... snobby toffee nosed DOG of a woman.

...stupid woman ... why the hell bring a buggy to meadowhall ... stupid enough to conceive another brat in this overpopulated world ... bits of tat ... Maybe they should have special red carpets from the mother and kid spaces to thank you for not using contraceptives... horrible horrible woman.

Which store do you work in? Just so that I know to avoid it in future. I assume it's not Mothercare? :clap:

When I used to work at Meadowhall staff had to use the overspill car parks over Christmas, however you could move your car onto the main car park after 5pm. Also a mini-bus was provided between the shopping centre and the car parks for staff to use.

As others have said, think yourself lucky you get free car parking, right outside your workplace, for 49 weeks of the year. I have to pay £3.50 a day if I want to park near my work, then walk through puddles to get to the office door.

Originally posted by Goon
Utterly agree with everything you have said Kittykat. Why parents with children are entitled to these places is beyond me. It will not hurt a toddler to walk an extra few yards.

Perhaps parent with child spaces are contributing to the childhood obesety problem...................

You are clearly childless.

You obviously don't have a clue what it is like to go shopping with a toddler, a baby, a buggy and all your bags of shopping.

Come back and make some sensible comments when you are a parent.

Park and Ride is always full after 8 in the morning. (for the person who mentioned parking there)

Also, staff who do not use the overspill car park are supposed to be fined £40 for each time they park in the main car parks (our supervisor has been warned once, so it can happen)

instead of moaning about parking at meadowhall why dont you get the bus to the train station and catch the train to it ?:rant: :loopy: as theres plenty of room on it and it only costs a pound each way

Isn't it great to live in the UK? With nothing to worry about other than car parking.I wonder if anyone in SE Asia will read this thread?

Originally posted by Mo
You are clearly childless.

You obviously don't have a clue what it is like to go shopping with a toddler, a baby, a buggy and all your bags of shopping.

Come back and make some sensible comments when you are a parent.


A rather broad assumption to make.

I am a parent actually but unlike a lot of parents I believe that it does not entitle me to special treatment. And yes I have struggled with a buggy and bags of shopping.

Originally posted by matsalleh
Isn't it great to live in the UK? With nothing to worry about other than car parking.I wonder if anyone in SE Asia will read this thread?


Your right we are lukey to live in the U.K.

Problems are relative though. A big problem, that annoys hudreds of people a day here, might be insignificant anywhere else in the world.

That doesn't mean we should overlook the little problems oor thing that just p*ss us off here.

We all know there are problems else where. Get a life!!!

Originally posted by hj dary

We all know there are problems else where. Get a life!!!

I have a life thank you and parking at Meadowhall is not very high on my list of priorities.

No no. Lets make every thread about SE asia because im sure the people who have lost family will be sat reading this and be terribly offended that we're not all sat internet gossiping over about it every minute of the day.

Originally posted by matsalleh
parking at Meadowhall is not very high on my list of priorities.

So why read a thread called "Parking at Meadowhall"? What did you expect this thread to be about? I have no interest in amusing name for having a poo (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24476), so I didn't read the thread.

Most of the threads on this forum are about things that aren't really that important, in the grand scheme of things. But if we only discussed world disasters, this place would't be Sheffield Forum.

Originally posted by Andy
So why read a thread called "Parking at Meadowhall"? What did you expect this thread to be about? I have no interest in amusing name for having a poo (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24476), so I didn't read the thread.

Most of the threads on this forum are about things that aren't really that important, in the grand scheme of things. But if we only discussed world disasters, this place would't be Sheffield Forum.
agreed:clap: but its all fun and games! above thread made me wee a bit haha:hihi: :D