:confused:

I could be wrong but is a fine 'modern' city such as Sheffield not due a pride event of some sort?

If I am totally mistaken and have been living under a rock and missed a huge parade, somebody please correct me, but so far the summer events on the scene seem to be confined to themed nights at Fuel and the odd barbeque. Even Huddersfield has the Pink Picnic, and Doncaster is having a pride this summer too I believe. Come on, they're making us look bad!

If there are people out there who agree with this sentiment, please reply, and why not get a committee together? It wont happen unless someone makes the first move.

:hihi: good luck :help:

Can't see the point myself.

I'm not a homophobe, far from it, i believe in equality for all and as long as its within the law and doesn't hurt anyone then do what you want.
But why parade through a city centre?
People who do this need to get over themselves - no one gives a toss about their sexuality.
Surely thats their personal business not everyones?

The nearest we get currently is Viva Climax which is an all day event every year at the Student's Union.

There were plans for a Sheffield Pride at one stage but as far as I know nothing much has come of it. A couple of forummers were involved (Tyranna and possibly AgentLesbos) I think and may know more about it.

It's a great idea.

The Gay Pride events in Brighton and Edinburgh are a blast even if you're straight.

A Sheffield Pride would be a positive thing for the GLB community in the city and the surrounding area.

I agree it would be a good event but i think we need to concentrate on the scene first then get approval/support from people that way!

Hi 367 .... How do you mean concentrate on the scene first? This is maybe why I don't get this sort of thing, as I'm not a sceney girl, me and my fiance spend most nights in watching murder mysteries so it's no surprise I'm not up on these things!

However I still think something, even if small, is do-able. Look at York! A couple of years ago they had the last gay pub taken over and turned into a rock pub (which I can vouch for was no longer friendly to the gays) This summer they had a pride thingy in the Park. Why the hell not! Am I just blindly optimistic?

I mean (and will probably get slated on here for saying this) but in other cities such as Le*ds and Manchester it's almost fashionable to come out. This is because they have a scene to be proud of. Some very good fashionable bars and club such as Fibre, Mission, Queer Essentials and the recently opened Religion Nightclub/Bar which i must say has been done very well!

I think the more us gay people have to shout about the more will come out and be there on the day.

Hope that makes sense x

Am I just blindly optimistic?

I think you must be. It has been tried and tested but there's never enough support from the coucil/police and even the LGBT community themsleves. I'm not talking from experience just what i have heard from vaious people i have talked to.

As Meaks says the closest we have is the all day event at Climax but this isn't what Pride is all about (drinking and pulling is just one part of it).

I'd love to be part of and help organise such an event but would defo need a lot of support.

well in that case where & when is our hetrosexual pride in sheffield are they not holding an event for this either???? :confused: :hihi: :D

well in that case where & when is our hetrosexual pride in sheffield are they not holding an event for this either???? :confused: :hihi: :D
It's "Hetro Pride" every Friday and Saturday night in the city centre!:hihi:

I'm quite partial to wine gums. Can we have a Wine Gum Parade down Fargate?

I obviously don't quite get what 'Gay Pride' is all about. By all means, make your claims for equality, but I want to witness similar-minded folk 'getting it on' in public as much as I want to watch a hippopotamus suffer the trots.

There'll be homosexuals in Emmerdale next, just you wait and see....,

It's "Hetro Pride" every Friday and Saturday night in the city centre!:hihi:

But the term coming out means one breast hanging out of her top/exposing his buttocks :hihi:

I'm quite partial to wine gums. Can we have a Wine Gum Parade down Fargate?

A wine gums parade sounds like fun, why not contact Maynards and see if they'll go for it?

But the term coming out means one breast hanging out of her top/exposing his buttocks :hihi:

And don't forget the cyclopean albino walrus that attempts to crawl out of the trousers of so many women as well!

An abiding image Carmine :hihi:

An abiding image Carmine :hihi:

It abides with me always after a few pints and a walk down West Street!

My other half was working in Manchester some years ago when one of these was going off and they wouldn't stop thrusting leaflets for gay bars in his hands. I wouldn't mind but he looks about as Gay as a wet weekend in Cleethorpes.

I would much sooner we had a winegum pride in Sheffield thats something that wouldn't turn my stomach.

Pod

* This is because they have a scene to be proud of. *

We might not have as many flashy bars etc, but I think the gay community of Sheffield is a slightly different one to the boom towns of Leeds and Manchester, and maybe that's because Sheffield is a friendlier city than those two (on the whole) and that's why they need to have such a comfort zone of bars. I know in Sheffield I can go down the local and hold hands with my girlfiend and not worry. When I lived in Leeds this was not always the case and hense we tried to ensure we were somewhere 'gay' before displaying certain types of behaviour. I don't feel that tension here.

FYI Ousetunes pride events don't just involve gay people going outside to 'get it on'. It's a celebration of diversity and culture which for the other 364 days of the year goes on under the nose of the rest of world unnoticed. We should be proud of and celebrate all our different demographics as a city.

FYI Ousetunes pride events don't just involve gay people going outside to 'get it on'. It's a celebration of diversity and culture which for the other 364 days of the year goes on under the nose of the rest of world unnoticed. We should be proud of and celebrate all our different demographics as a city.

The last Pride I was at was free of folks "getting it on"...there was however more bitching than Crufts!:D

My other half was working in Manchester some years ago when one of these was going off and they wouldn't stop thrusting leaflets for gay bars in his hands. I wouldn't mind but he looks about as Gay as a wet weekend in Cleethorpes.

I would much sooner we had a winegum pride in Sheffield thats something that wouldn't turn my stomach.

Pod

Can I ask what does a gay person looks like? Not all gays are screaming queens you know!

Maybe you other half shouldn't hang around Canal Street!

Maybe you other half shouldn't hang around Canal Street!

My mates and I ended up on Canal Street on my Stag Weekend.

Half a dozen straight guys from Sheffield, high as kites on spacecakes and terrified that we were going to be killed by Manchester's gay crowd.

It's funny in retrospect, but we were scared stiff at the time!:hihi:

* This is because they have a scene to be proud of. *

We might not have as many flashy bars etc, but I think the gay community of Sheffield is a slightly different one to the boom towns of Leeds and Manchester, and maybe that's because Sheffield is a friendlier city than those two (on the whole) and that's why they need to have such a comfort zone of bars. I know in Sheffield I can go down the local and hold hands with my girlfiend and not worry. When I lived in Leeds this was not always the case and hense we tried to ensure we were somewhere 'gay' before displaying certain types of behaviour. I don't feel that tension here.

FYI Ousetunes pride events don't just involve gay people going outside to 'get it on'. It's a celebration of diversity and culture which for the other 364 days of the year goes on under the nose of the rest of world unnoticed. We should be proud of and celebrate all our different demographics as a city.

Yes i agree people in Sheffield are much more friendlier but when it comes to being homophobic Sheffield's are out there with the rest. Lets face it the scene needs some finincial input. Maybe all gay/lesbian people in Sheffield go to their local as they feel comfy like yourself, hence the reason we have the most seedy bars/club in the north. Sheffielder's need trendier venue's like those in other places and no i don't think it's because Leeds and Manchester are boom towns it's just that the gay people there have a feeling of belong to a particular place, somewhere they are proud of and not some shabby bar like the Lions Lair. The fact there's more bar's and clubs would encourage more people to come out and be who they are. Sheffield does have a large gay population, they're all just stuck indoors cos they are sick of the dives we have to contend with!

My mates and I ended up on Canal Street on my Stag Weekend.

Half a dozen straight guys from Sheffield, high as kites on spacecakes and terrified that we were going to be killed by Manchester's gay crowd.

It's funny in retrospect, but we were scared stiff at the time!:hihi:

Canal Street is ace whether you are straight or gay. I took my parents down there once when it was transexual weekend or something! The amount of men dressed as women was unbelievable. It was a good feeling to think these people are out and don't care what others think. I have to say though we're not here for your entertainment as i sometimes feel gay people are.

Bloody hell reminds me of the folks i used to know in the cossack years ago !!! is it still open ????

Can I ask what does a gay person looks like? Not all gays are screaming queens you know!

Maybe you other half shouldn't hang around Canal Street!

I'm sorry I wasn't meaning to be offensive I just thought Gay people took abit of care of themselves, my OH is quite a scruffy looking bloke.
He couldn't help being where he was as he was sent there by work.

Pod

Canal Street is ace whether you are straight or gay.

I have had the impression lately (over the last few years) though that the "straights" just come down for a laugh at the puffs, and if I see one more hen party down there.........

Canal Street is ace whether you are straight or gay. I took my parents down there once when it was transexual weekend or something! The amount of men dressed as women was unbelievable. It was a good feeling to think these people are out and don't care what others think. I have to say though we're not here for your entertainment as i sometimes feel gay people are.

I can assure you that we wandered down there by mistake and there's no way that I'd take a large group of my straight male friends into that environment to have a gawp. I have taken a stag party to the gay triangle in Edinburgh, but I always feel that it's a very tolerant and accepting city.

Usually I only end up in gay bars with my wife and our gay friends and we always have a good time. But it is interesting to be in the minority when we go for a night out with them.

I'm sorry I wasn't meaning to be offensive I just thought Gay people took abit of care of themselves, my OH is quite a scruffy looking bloke.
He couldn't help being where he was as he was sent there by work.

Pod

Ok No probs, sorry for the hasty abrupt message. Sometimes you get people on here who are just out there to offend.

Yeh i suppose we do look after our selves a bit more but trust me there are some scruffy looking LGBT people out there.

Usually I only end up in gay bars with my wife and our gay friends and we always have a good time. But it is interesting to be in the minority when we go for a night out with them.

Yeh my parents and their friends end up in Dempseys every week. Not really too sure why they go - suppose in some sense they like to know what the gay scene is like and what they do but i think they just enjoy the accepting attitude and friendliness!

*Sheffield does have a large gay population, they're all just stuck indoors cos they are sick of the dives we have to contend with!*

I know what you mean, I wish we could just open up a gay quarter over night but I guess we have to work with what we've got! Did I mention I spend most nights in watching Rosemary and Thyme??? : )

Thanks for the tip off about the girl who was involved in the last attempt, I got in touch so hopefully it will become a reality not just a rant. Even just something on Devonshire Green for the day. It would be a start. I will defo be back in touch holding you to your offer of help!

Thanks for the tip off about the girl who was involved in the last attempt, I got in touch so hopefully it will become a reality not just a rant. Even just something on Devonshire Green for the day. It would be a start. I will defo be back in touch holding you to your offer of help!

hehe, Nice one!

Ok No probs, sorry for the hasty abrupt message. Sometimes you get people on here who are just out there to offend.

Yeh i suppose we do look after our selves a bit more but trust me there are some scruffy looking LGBT people out there.

I can understand why you would be defensive, it isn't nice to deliberately offend someone. I have got Gay friends who take much more pride in their appearance than most of my straight friends.

I will try and be abit more tactful, which given i'm new on here may take a while

Pod

Bloody hell reminds me of the folks i used to know in the cossack years ago !!! is it still open ????

Unfortunately not, no.

I can understand why you would be defensive, it isn't nice to deliberately offend someone. I have got Gay friends who take much more pride in their appearance than most of my straight friends.

I will try and be abit more tactful, which given i'm new on here may take a while

Pod


Coolies! Welcome to the forum anyway!

xGx

\why should there be a march for sexuality

\why should there be a march for sexuality

There shouldn't really be a march for wine gums but I'd love to see one :)

Pod

why................./

why................./

wine gums are the sweets that dare not speak their name

there's no reason to march for a sexuality that is now legal i could understand if it wasn't and you were marching for the right to be gay

there's no reason to march for a sexuality that is now legal i could understand if it wasn't and you were marching for the right to be gay

But what about the rights of the black wine gums?? They are allowed into the packet but in very few numbers that i'm sure we all know it is just a token gesture :hihi:

Pod

what would you think to a march for the far right and what they think to the colored wine gums

what would you think to a march for the far right and what they think to the colored wine gums


Its a tuffy!!! I am not sure whos march i would join as I like the green ones as much as the black ones :help::help:

Pod

Bloody hell reminds me of the folks i used to know in the cossack years ago !!! is it still open ????

Don't know about that, but I once saw a gay guy bring a straight one out of the Cossack and give hime the hiding of his life. His mates did nothing to help him. Evidently he had been making fun of the gay man. People get a rude awakening when something like that happens - not all gay guys are limp wristed. This must be thirty odd years ago - might be more.

Tyranna did post about the Sheffield Gay pride, but due to lack of sponsors it was called off, and is now in Doncaster.

The thread seems to have vanished :suspect::suspect:

I suppose Doncaster is as far away as we can hope for.If a street full of football fans "parade" they are videoed,photographed & sectioned 60'd,what makes "The Gays" any different? as a previous poster points out they can be a violent bunch.What sort of message is sent out to our future generations when they see such behaviour in open public places[gay marches not football fans]

I suppose Doncaster is as far away as we can hope for.If a street full of football fans "parade" they are videoed,photographed & sectioned 60'd,what makes "The Gays" any different? as a previous poster points out they can be a violent bunch.What sort of message is sent out to our future generations when they see such behaviour in open public places[gay marches not football fans]

I don't quite get what you're trying to get at? Football is a completely different kettle of fish to what 'the gays' are trying to get across. 'The gays' don't have organised crime like hooliganism, we don't meet 'just for a flight' (i'm not saying you do but it happens as i've seen it and have been to several away matches with Wednesday). Basically all that would happen on Gay Pride is there's a little march around the centre where the basic message is 'look we are here, we are proud to be here and take us as we are'. Then basically it's a goods excuse for a **** up and to raise people's awareness. It's fun for all sexualities and everybody gets involved, it shows how diverse places are that people can be together and the public are accepting.

We will see.

Tyranna did post about the Sheffield Gay pride, but due to lack of sponsors it was called off, and is now in Doncaster.

The thread seems to have vanished :suspect::suspect:

I wonder how the Doncaster one is going? They haven't done much marketing at all. Which company's are involved?

I can't see it being a success myself if sheffield can't pull it off but we shall see.

I wonder how the Doncaster one is going? They haven't done much marketing at all. Which company's are involved?

I can't see it being a success myself if sheffield can't pull it off but we shall see.

http://www.safeinsouthyorks.co.uk

I don't quite get what you're trying to get at? Football is a completely different kettle of fish to what 'the gays' are trying to get across. 'The gays' don't have organised crime like hooliganism, we don't meet 'just for a flight' (i'm not saying you do but it happens as i've seen it and have been to several away matches with Wednesday). Basically all that would happen on Gay Pride is there's a little march around the centre where the basic message is 'look we are here, we are proud to be here and take us as we are'. Then basically it's a goods excuse for a **** up and to raise people's awareness. It's fun for all sexualities and everybody gets involved, it shows how diverse places are that people can be together and the public are accepting.

We will see.

so would that be ok for the far right

so would that be ok for the far right

Can you expand? Do you mean people like the BNP walking the streets telling immigrants to go home etc?

Can you expand? Do you mean people like the BNP walking the streets telling immigrants to go home etc?

Sounds good to me, were do we meet

Can you expand? Do you mean people like the BNP walking the streets telling immigrants to go home etc?

no not telling immigrants to go home


there's a little march around the centre where the basic message is 'look we are here, we are proud to be here and take us as we are'. Then basically it's a goods excuse for a **** up and to raise people's awareness. It's fun for all

you wont be having sex or whatever in the high street will you :roll:

no not telling immigrants to go home


there's a little march around the centre where the basic message is 'look we are here, we are proud to be here and take us as we are'. Then basically it's a goods excuse for a **** up and to raise people's awareness. It's fun for all

you wont be having sex or whatever in the high street will you :roll:

No don't be stupid. Why would anyone do that? Well like i say can you expand on your previous comment?

like you said

there's a little march around the centre where the basic message is 'look we are here, we are proud to be here and take us as we are'. Then basically it's a goods excuse for a **** up and to raise people's awareness. It's fun for all

:D

like you said

there's a little march around the centre where the basic message is 'look we are here, we are proud to be here and take us as we are'. Then basically it's a goods excuse for a **** up and to raise people's awareness. It's fun for all

:D

And how is that in any way comparable to the BNP?

Sounds good to me, were do we meet

Do you enjoy telling immigrants to go home then?

Do you enjoy telling immigrants to go home then?

ahhh sir halibut the hero :roll:

Basically all that would happen on Gay Pride is there's a little march around the centre where the basic message is 'look we are here, we are proud to be here and take us as we are'. Then basically it's a goods excuse for a **** up and to raise people's awareness. It's fun for all sexualities and everybody gets involved, it shows how diverse places are that people can be together and the public are accepting.

We will see.


but ''gay'' people are accepted into society and have been for years so why the need to parade?? why do you need to celebrate your sexuality? do ''hetrosexual'' people go round holding banners saying '' look at me i'm straight lets all celebrate'' why is that there has to be that need to be accepted when you already are?

these are genuine questions by the way, i am not being condiscending in anyway at all!

but ''gay'' people are accepted into society and have been for years so why the need to parade?? why do you need to celebrate your sexuality? do ''hetrosexual'' people go round holding banners saying '' look at me i'm straight lets all celebrate'' why is that there has to be that need to be accepted when you already are?

these are genuine questions by the way, i am not being condiscending in anyway at all!

but so true

but so true

WHY is it?? i have gay friends and have enjoyed many a night out at certain gay nights, i also used to go to manchester with my ex partner and often went to the Mardi Gras there.

WHY is it?? i have gay friends and have enjoyed many a night out at certain gay nights, i also used to go to manchester with my ex partner and often went to the Mardi Gras there.

do you just type aimlessly dont you read or agree with what you wrote or are you taking the mick hucnull

do you just type aimlessly dont you read or agree with what you wrote or are you taking the mick hucnull

I think blondie was just asking questions, getto - it's one of the things people do on here, y'know? Let me ask you one.
Why do you find the idea of a Gay Pride march so distressing?

I think blondie was just asking questions, getto - it's one of the things people do on here, y'know? Let me ask you one.
Why do you find the idea of a Gay Pride march so distressing?

grow up :roll:

grow up :roll:

It's a perfectly reasonable question - why can't you answer it?

grow up :roll:

thats a really intellectual answer!!

thats a really intellectual answer!!

its not a subject for intellectual debate is it really. its about using sexuality as a fashion statement :roll:

its not a subject for intellectual debate is it really. its about using sexuality as a fashion statement :roll:

o right so you can give an answer to me but not Halibut... :roll:

do you just type aimlessly dont you read or agree with what you wrote or are you taking the mick hucnull

for gods sake i was just asking question's, i thought thats what this forum was for...!!! :roll:

o right so you can give an answer to me but not Halibut... :roll:

its you i was talking too not the wanna be hero halibut

its not a subject for intellectual debate is it really. its about using sexuality as a fashion statement :roll:

Which is something the straight community do all the time - so why is it wrong for gays to do it occasionally?

its you i was talking too not the wanna be hero halibut

so how come you cant answer his question then???

]but ''gay'' people are accepted into society and have been for years so why the need to parade?? why do you need to celebrate your sexuality? do ''hetrosexual'' people go round holding banners saying '' look at me i'm straight lets all celebrate'' why is that there has to be that need to be accepted when you already are?[/SIZE]

these are genuine questions by the way, i am not being condiscending in anyway at all!

why can you ask this question and i not :huh:

why can you ask this question and i not :huh:

You're quite free to ask it - whatever makes you think otherwise?
You can say anything you like on the forum providing you do so within the rules.
Anyway, how about answering some questions - why do you feel so strongly against a Gay Pride march?

and - If Gay Pride is about using sexuality as a fashion statement, why is that Ok for straight people, but not gay people?

You're quite free to ask it - whatever makes you think otherwise?
You can say anything you like on the forum providing you do so within the rules.
Anyway, how about answering some questions - why do you feel so strongly against a Gay Pride march?

and - If Gay Pride is about using sexuality as a fashion statement, why is that Ok for straight people, but not gay people?

where do strait people use it as a fashion statement i dont the parades

where do strait people use it as a fashion statement i dont the parades

The fashion industry, the music industry, the printed and electronic media.......they all use sex (mostly staight sex) to shift product. If you haven't noticed, you must be living in a parallel universe or something.

The fashion industry, the music industry, the printed and electronic media.......they all use sex (mostly staight sex) to shift product. If you haven't noticed, you must be living in a parallel universe or something.

thats day to day life not a parade grow up stop looking for the moral high ground :loopy:

thats day to day life not a parade grow up stop looking for the moral high ground :loopy:

You really don't get the debating thing do you? Still no answers to my questions either....

thats day to day life not a parade grow up stop looking for the moral high ground :loopy:

Yeah, it's day to day life that's dominated by a culture that pushes (mostly straight) sexuality at us to sell things all the time - so why the hell shouldn't gay folk have a bit of a party to celebrate their thing?

You really don't get the debating thing do you? Still no answers to my questions either....

if you read everything i wright you will see i answered all relevant questions

if you read everything i wright you will see i answered all relevant questions

Well, I just did and it's as clear as mud, I'm afraid. Ne'er mind.

No Sniper i don't think you are making any valid points at all, if you can even call them points. You're just typing squiggle everytime you reply. If you've got nothing constructive to say then don't post at all. You're just flooding the thread.

No Sniper i don't think you are making any valid points at all, if you can even call them points. You're just typing squiggle everytime you reply. If you've got nothing constructive to say then don't post at all. You're just flooding the thread.

what your really saying is that i dont agree to a gay pride march so go away
what im saying is theres no reason for such things other than as a fashion statement there is no other reason if there is enlighten me by all means

Bloody hell reminds me of the folks i used to know in the cossack years ago !!! is it still open ????

As of yesterday, it no longer exists.

I agree with ghetto sniper that there is no need to march for gay rights as they are now excepted BUT what harm does it do. Its a fun day for all concerned.
Its abit rubbish and partypooperish to complain. I've never seen one in real life but they look very colourful and interesting on the TV.

Pod

As of yesterday, it no longer exists.

It's been demolished ?

Getto Sniper "what would you think to a march for the far right" .....

Clearly I have sparked a bit of a raucus debate here, which is not what I intended to do. There is no reason why the gay community should defend it's right to celebrate its diversity and culture in an inclusive, safe environment. The fact remains that gay people still suffer adversity and discrimination not only in this country but in many other countries where it is still deemed 'wrong'.

I did not post the original question to ask if a pride is 'allowed' in Sheffield, I wanted to get some support from other members of the forum for the idea, and to find out of there was a valid reason for us not having had one before. Clearly I was more naive than I thought, and as I can see, with people out there who entertain the idea of a 'far right pride', I have been resting on my lesbo laurels and should realise we still have a long way to go in this country before we beat homophobia.

Please don't think you have heard the last about this though, it will happen by hook or by crook.

:confused:

I could be wrong but is a fine 'modern' city such as Sheffield not due a pride event of some sort?

If I am totally mistaken and have been living under a rock and missed a huge parade, somebody please correct me, but so far the summer events on the scene seem to be confined to themed nights at Fuel and the odd barbeque. Even Huddersfield has the Pink Picnic, and Doncaster is having a pride this summer too I believe. Come on, they're making us look bad!

If there are people out there who agree with this sentiment, please reply, and why not get a committee together? It wont happen unless someone makes the first move.

What is the point?

Canal Street is ace whether you are straight or gay.

Complete rubbish.

Getto Sniper "what would you think to a march for the far right" .....

Clearly I have sparked a bit of a raucus debate here, which is not what I intended to do. There is no reason why the gay community should defend it's right to celebrate its diversity and culture in an inclusive, safe environment. The fact remains that gay people still suffer adversity and discrimination not only in this country but in many other countries where it is still deemed 'wrong'.

I did not post the original question to ask if a pride is 'allowed' in Sheffield, I wanted to get some support from other members of the forum for the idea, and to find out of there was a valid reason for us not having had one before. Clearly I was more naive than I thought, and as I can see, with people out there who entertain the idea of a 'far right pride', I have been resting on my lesbo laurels and should realise we still have a long way to go in this country before we beat homophobia.

Please don't think you have heard the last about this though, it will happen by hook or by crook.


thats like playing the race card be ashamed dear dear me :nono:
why not just have a big phat mardi gra then all kinds could have there own float

No don't be stupid. Why would anyone do that? Well like i say can you expand on your previous comment?

There is a program on ITV about bouncers, and last week it focused on Manchester Gay Pride event and that is exactly what they were doing.

RACE CARD?????

It's a FACT that homophobia is still rife in this country, hense the reason we have separate 'gay' bars and 'gay' hotels.

Gay people don't feel safe on the whole and there's a very good reason for that.

And I'm not playing anything, merely stating a fact.

Why does it have to be gay, straight, black or white - just a massive big parade in honour of Sheffield will suffice.

Please don't think you have heard the last about this though, it will happen by hook or by crook.

It won't, the Sheffield gay population isn't interested enough.

RACE CARD?????

It's a FACT that homophobia is still rife in this country, hense the reason we have separate 'gay' bars and 'gay' hotels.

Gay people don't feel safe on the whole and there's a very good reason for that.

And I'm not playing anything, merely stating a fact.

segregation is not the answer if you wish to be excepted http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XTDu3NbTBjM&mode=related&search=

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LNoQ-MgWVPk&mode=related&search=

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yulRmH41yCk&mode=related&search=
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Do you really think so?

I'm interested to know why, through fear of trouble or as someone said earlier, there isn't a scene to be proud of? It seems to me there is a disctinct lack of unity in Sheffields scene, what I have seen of it. Ok we don't have many bars and they're not ideally together like those of Leeds and Manc, but is it not the people that matter in a community? Is everyone who's gay in Sheffield really that fed up?

Is everyone who's gay in Sheffield really that fed up?

My answer to that is No. But thats my view.

I see, as usual these type of threads get side-tracked as usual, I forgot what the original question was now :huh:

There is a program on ITV about bouncers, and last week it focused on Manchester Gay Pride event and that is exactly what they were doing.

I watched the same program. I didn't see shagging in the street!

I was just wondering if any gay sheffielders out there were interested in putting together some kind of gay pride event for next year as we don't seem to have had one before. It seems odd as other smaller places have, such as Donny this year. Which I am now told would have been in Sheff but was moved for lack of support. Why?

I was just wondering if any gay sheffielders out there were interested in putting together some kind of gay pride event for next year as we don't seem to have had one before. It seems odd as other smaller places have, such as Donny this year. Which I am now told would have been in Sheff but was moved for lack of support. Why?

The nearest we are gonna get to anything remotely gay event is Viva Climax, but they just do the same thing every eyar, needs spicing up a bit.

As for support for a gay pride would mean the co-operation of all the gay venues, and I can see that will never happen, unfortunately. :(

Look what happened to Homo-Mad week.

Right situation.

Sheffield hosts a Love Parade where LGBT members, hetrosexual people, refugees/immigrants, ethnic minorities all celebrate life together and have a massive party to show our love for one another.

Do you really think it would work? I'm not convince we are ready for it yet and lots of trouble would kick off. 'well he felt me arse' and 'she's getting £200 a week and shouldn't even be in this country' attitude will start. I've heard it all before.

I don't know what's going on and why people are trying to spoil anyone else's fun. It's a free country at the end of the day and how i spend my private life is my business but once in a while all i'd like to do is feel like i am a person accepted in society for who i am and not an ideal.

I work for Sheffield Hallam University, i could try and badger a few people here to see if they could help in any way, i'd love them to turn around and say they'd sponsor it but i doubt it will happen.

We should have an early pride like may or something when the students are still here.

Look what happened to Homo-Mad week.

I'ts not suprising though, who woudl want to get involved in something with such a stupid name ?

No **** I work there too!

We should put our heads together then! But yes I have to agree it would be hard to do. Would the Love Sheffield thing be an appropriate thing to incorporate it into?

How cool is that!

Maybe we should start by creating a little focus group here like they do in other organisations and see what comes of that? We could gaged interested through eview and see the ideas. You know collectively we would have more power on things.

I've always wondered why Sheffield Hallam doesn;t have anything really for it's LGBT staff.

Some of the posts on this thread are just plain stupid and ignorant, be ashamed people, be ashamed.

The point of a gay pride event is make a clear statement to homophobes and people who post crap on here that we are proud to be who we are, to love who we love and that we expect the same rights, repsect and protection in law as everyone else. Oh, and that we also have a sense oh humour and know how to party.

Hetrosexuality is celebrated every day, in every newspaper, magazine, TV/radio show, corner shop, hospital corridor, male/female couple holding hands on Fargate, straight couples having a cuddle in the park on a summers day. Is it really such a big matter if for one day in the year, we as a gay community stand up and say we are proud to be who we are. Many, many straight love the gay parades in Manchester and London.

Count me in for any event.
xx

You should contact some of the civil service departments and the PCS Union - on their website they always have a lot about LGBT awareness and stuff so they'd be up for it I'm sure.

Well there used to be an LGBT society which I think has been scrapped now. It's really annoying as I ran for women's officer years ago and the girl who did get in was slightly uninformed about these things and I think it was left to the wayside. Needless to say we no longer have a women's officer either!

Well there used to be an LGBT society which I think has been scrapped now. It's really annoying as I ran for women's officer years ago and the girl who did get in was slightly uninformed about these things and I think it was left to the wayside. Needless to say we no longer have a women's officer either!

I don't understand why though. I mean the university should be pushing this sort of thing especially when attracting perspective students!

I agree, perhaps this is something we should look at getting off the ground? They sometimes have ambassadors or reps in big organisations who can serve as a point of contact for people experiencing probs in the workplace. I don't know if the union rep covers this area. It would be a start for the students to have something though. And a gay night at HUBS???

I watched the same program. I didn't see shagging in the street!

Watch it again...someone happily receiving head outside one of the clubs in the street...I’m not about to lie about something that everyone could have watched.

I agree, perhaps this is something we should look at getting off the ground? They sometimes have ambassadors or reps in big organisations who can serve as a point of contact for people experiencing probs in the workplace. I don't know if the union rep covers this area. It would be a start for the students to have something though. And a gay night at HUBS???

Yeh i agree. Didn't the HUBS have a gay night called 'Moist'? It was midweek tho so a bit pointless.

I reckon if we can gage interest the Enterprise centre will through some money at it!

Pm me if you like and i'll give you my email addy.

Watch it again...someone happily receiving head outside one of the clubs in the street...I’m not about to lie about something that everyone could have watched.

Ok, maybe i missed that bit while ironing my work clothes. Maybe you should watch things like Street Crime UK and Booze Britain. ALL the Straights on their get their bits out in public!!!!

Notice i say ALL (not so fair when the tables are turned is it?)

someone happily receiving head

Can you unhappily receive head? :confused: :hihi:

yeah Doncaster is hosting a Pride event - Sunday 19th August from 12 noon to 6pm. Live performances on a large stage in the Market area featuring dancers, drag, singers etc etc.... No Parade though.

Sheffield were trying to stage a Pride but failed for some reason to make it happen.

More info on the Doncaster Pride available on the safe in south yorkshire website

Ok, maybe i missed that bit while ironing my work clothes. Maybe you should watch things like Street Crime UK and Booze Britain. ALL the Straights on their get their bits out in public!!!!

Notice i say ALL (not so fair when the tables are turned is it?)

what have you never heard of gay criminals

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid41296.asp



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i didn't want this to turn into a slagging match, all i want to do is fight my corner as most of the comments seem to be directed to the minority group i belong to.

So whay do you feel the need to turn it in to a slanging match see above post :rolleyes:

Anyway, i'm off to bed soon, i'm not staying up to read crap. All i can say is we are here we will continue to shout as long as there is discrimination from the likes of you lot. All i can say is i hope my generation of people are as accepting as they have been. But like i say gays are here and there will probably be more coming out as we grow up so i'm afraid it's time to accept we are here and we do what we do.

Anyway, i'm off to bed soon, i'm not staying up to read crap. All i can say is we are here we will continue to shout as long as there is discrimination from the likes of you lot. All i can say is i hope my generation of people are as accepting as they have been. But like i say gays are here and there will probably be more coming out as we grow up so i'm afraid it's time to accept we are here and we do what we do.



Whos discriminating?

We are only stating our opinions, you may not like it but unfortunatly thats debate.

Whos discriminating?

We are only stating our opinions, you may not like it but unfortunatly thats debate.

I welcome debate, but if you attack, insult or degrade my sexuality then I will respond, that is my right.

Maybe if we didn't have outsiders try to run the sheffield gay scene for us somthingh may happen

Maybe if we didn't have outsiders try to run the sheffield gay scene for us somthingh may happen




OUTSIDERS? can you explain what you mean.

I'm potentially going to become very offended and call everyone a bigot who doesn't agree with my views

OUTSIDERS? can you explain what you mean.
I'm potentially going to become very offended and call everyone a bigot who doesn't agree with my views

Put your claws away.

What he means is "outsiders" as in people from Hull, I presume he is having a go at Fuel.

Some of the posts on this thread are just plain stupid and ignorant, be ashamed people, be very ashamed. I have been deeply shocked at the level of hostility and bigotry towards the good people of Hull. They are just people like you and me; if you cut them do they not bleed?

That is why it is important to have a Hull pride event in Sheffield. The point of a Hull pride event is make a clear statement to Hullophobes and people who post crap on here that we are proud to be who we are, to love where we love and that we expect the same rights, repsect and protection in law as everyone else. Oh, and that we also have a sense oh humour and know how to party.

Non-Hull life is celebrated every day, in every newspaper, magazine, TV/radio show, corner shop, hospital corridor, by men and women, gays and heterosexuals. Is it really such a big matter if for one day in the year, we as a coastal community stand up and say we are proud to be who we are?

In the past most Hull pride events have taken place in Hull for logistical reasons, but I feel that this thread has demonstrated the need to raise awareness and challenge preconceptions further afield.

Count me in for any event.

Some of the posts on this thread are just plain stupid and ignorant, be ashamed people, be very ashamed. I have been deeply shocked at the level of hostility and bigotry towards the good people of Hull. They are just people like you and me; if you cut them do they not bleed?

That is why it is important to have a Hull pride event in Sheffield. The point of a Hull pride event is make a clear statement to Hullophobes and people who post crap on here that we are proud to be who we are, to love where we love and that we expect the same rights, repsect and protection in law as everyone else. Oh, and that we also have a sense oh humour and know how to party.

Non-Hull life is celebrated every day, in every newspaper, magazine, TV/radio show, corner shop, hospital corridor, by men and women, gays and heterosexuals. Is it really such a big matter if for one day in the year, we as a coastal community stand up and say we are proud to be who we are?

In the past most Hull pride events have taken place in Hull for logistical reasons, but I feel that this thread has demonstrated the need to raise awareness and challenge preconceptions further afield.

Count me in for any event.


Here we go again, blah blah blah. :rolleyes: It's a nice compliment that you have to use and edit my last post, thank you. By the way I think Hull is great, love visiting The Deep.

Here we go again, blah blah blah. :rolleyes: It's a nice compliment that you have to use and edit my last post, thank you.

They do say that imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Though it might just have been laziness.

Here's a list of famous people from Hull (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_from_Hull). is it the most abject list of any city in Britain? More should be done I think.

They do say that imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Though it might just have been laziness.

Here's a list of famous people from Hull (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_from_Hull). is it the most abject list of any city in Britain? More should be done I think.

Just looked at the website for Hull Pride 2007, it looked great. The scene in Hull looks OK and I must say one of the bar boys in Polar Bear look very cute. :love:

Just looked at the website for Hull Pride 2007, it looked great. The scene in Hull looks OK and I must say one of the bar boys in Polar Bear look very cute. :love:

Can't see them, have you got a link? Most of the pictures were of some bloke blowing large soapy bubbles. Is this a particularly gay thing to do?

Can't see them, have you got a link? Most of the pictures were of some bloke blowing large soapy bubbles. Is this a particularly gay thing to do?


Gay men do like blowing on things, normally their egoes :hihi:

I went to the Polar Bear Bar website. Spoke to a friend about our bank holiday plans and suggested that we give Hull a try, don't want to do Manchester this year.

For now just steering away from the rights and wrongs of the Gay Pride and what it means....... just thought I'd let you know the event in Doncaster on Sunday was a massive success.

Despite the weather the crowd was well in excess of 1,000 (this was outdoors - there were a good few hundred more in the surrounding bars) and was a mix of gay and straight people and families. It was never intended to be "in your face" and for that reason there wasn't a parade - what there was was 6+ hours of live music and entertainment and a really great market - again a mix of Pride merchandise and info stalls as well as everyday market stalls selling a range of goods.

The original debate was about Sheffield and why no Pride there and you may ask this question as I'm sure Sheffield has a larger LGBT community than Doncaster - but what made the difference was the support the Doncaster group managed to get - both in cash and in kind - and no not just from Doncaster Council.

Visitors on the day came from all over South and West Yorkshire and feedback from regular Pride goers was that it was well organised, well attended and better than some of the others locally.... now this isn't about competition and I for one hope Sheffield can succeed in getting the 2008 South Yorkshire Pride off the ground - BUT Doncaster WILL be hosting a Pride again next year, no matter what Sheffield do and have already set about planning.

One straight couple said to me - are we ok to be here - we're not gay but this is such an amazing event.....?

To me that says it all....

For now just steering away from the rights and wrongs of the Gay Pride and what it means....... just thought I'd let you know the event in Doncaster on Sunday was a massive success.

Despite the weather the crowd was well in excess of 1,000 (this was outdoors - there were a good few hundred more in the surrounding bars) and was a mix of gay and straight people and families. It was never intended to be "in your face" and for that reason there wasn't a parade - what there was was 6+ hours of live music and entertainment and a really great market - again a mix of Pride merchandise and info stalls as well as everyday market stalls selling a range of goods.

The original debate was about Sheffield and why no Pride there and you may ask this question as I'm sure Sheffield has a larger LGBT community than Doncaster - but what made the difference was the support the Doncaster group managed to get - both in cash and in kind - and no not just from Doncaster Council.

Visitors on the day came from all over South and West Yorkshire and feedback from regular Pride goers was that it was well organised, well attended and better than some of the others locally.... now this isn't about competition and I for one hope Sheffield can succeed in getting the 2008 South Yorkshire Pride off the ground - BUT Doncaster WILL be hosting a Pride again next year, no matter what Sheffield do and have already set about planning.

One straight couple said to me - are we ok to be here - we're not gay but this is such an amazing event.....?

To me that says it all....

Fantastic and well done. Sounds like everyone had a good day, both gay and straight. :clap:

The Manchester one was also a success:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1014/1014817_a_party_to_be_proud_of_.html

The Big Weekend, with its centrepiece carnival parade, drew thousands of visitors into the city centre to watch the fun, frills and frolics.

A shame that Sheffield doesn't seem to want to encourage tourism.

nope no no no no

nope no no no no

No to what???:confused:

As i've stated in previous posts.

Gay people have come a long way in regards to the way we're treat by the mjaority etc but there's still a lot to be done is the idea of walking around town holding my partners hand just a pipedream? I know I wouldnt dream of it now as i'd get a good kicking

A shame that Sheffield doesn't seem to want to encourage tourism.





Not true, theres plenty of things to attract tourists to sheffield

What is there to attracts tourists to sheffield may I ask?

What is there to attracts tourists to sheffield may I ask?



Meadowhall.....

The peaks being on the doorstep

Loads

It's a great idea.

The Gay Pride events in Brighton and Edinburgh are a blast even if you're straight.

A Sheffield Pride would be a positive thing for the GLB community in the city and the surrounding area.

Why not we have chinese new year celebrations. So hey why not something happening in the city centre. Being straight I would not be interested in attending but its something else to advertise this great city of ours.

Never seen so many gay threads started at the same time.

.......... and here is me thinking homophobia was a thing of the 70`s, obvioulsy isn`t.

PC rules say I

No, but what's wrong with letting them have just one day?

Never seen so many gay threads started at the same time.

.......... and here is me thinking homophobia was a thing of the 70`s, obvioulsy isn`t.


Quite right, it is alive and thriving. I was sitting in a pub garden in town with a crowd of gays and straights and a couple of asian guys.

A couple who were actually quite drunk, not that this is an excuse, walked past us and very loudly shouted, "this pub is crap, always full of queers and pakis". What I want to know is if I had remarked loudly that they were both filthy dirty, blind drunk and lacking in any formal education which was blatantly apparent, would that be classed as being prejudiced. I am gay, and I would never dream of treating anyone with less respect than I would expect to receive myself.

While ever there are people like this about, we really have still got a struggle on our hands.:mad::mad::(

PC rules say I cannot be homophobic and I'm not, but Im just not comfortable with gay men/women. Is this a crime?

I'm not comfortable with people judging others on something that doesn't affect them - but I practice a little tolerance and understanding - maybe try it sometime.

I'm not comfortable with people judging others on something that doesn't affect them - but I practice a little tolerance and understanding - maybe try it sometime.

I can be and am tolerant,

I can be and am tolerant, just dont feel comfortable with gay people. It does affect me, I pay all my taxes in full, therefore any money you get from the council to assist you in staging your parade/fete etc is partly my money.
i just dont know why we have to have gay prides, your gay your proud whupty whoo.

Under privliged children who have less in life than the average person should be the subject of a march not a lot of gay people who have every advantage as straight folk.

Shoot me down by all means, it is a free world after all.

I have no intention of shooting you down but, you know, they may not feel comfortable being near you. These things do tend to work both ways.

The Manchester one was also a success:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1014/1014817_a_party_to_be_proud_of_.html

The Big Weekend, with its centrepiece carnival parade, drew thousands of visitors into the city centre to watch the fun, frills and frolics.

A shame that Sheffield doesn't seem to want to encourage tourism.

My straight friend went with his wife and kids - had a brilliant time. Said it made him proud to be British.

Shoot me down by all means, it is a free world after all.

Why would I do that? We're all entitled to our opinion. Just because I disagree with you it doesn't mean that I'm right and you're wrong - or vice versa.

What I would say is that I tend to enjoy being around people who are nice - sexuality doesn't really come into it. Frankly I don't really care what they do with their private bits and I'm comfortable enough with my own sexuality to not feel threatened by anyone elses.

I have no intention of shooting you down but, you know, they may not feel comfartable being near you. These things do tend to work both ways.

thats fine, I dont like the company of gay people and they dont like mine, but it doesn't disguise the fact that we should spend money on the underprivilaged and other disadvantaged groups in society, not gay prides.

The gay couple who live on my block o flats are really nice people and I always say hello to them, but Im not bothered about their company. The two gay lads who work behind the bar in my local - great lads, have a beer or two with them. The gay guy who said he fancied me - Its nice to be wanted!!! I have nothing against gay people just dont feel comfortable around them.

But these people are not at a disadvantage in life - money should be spent on the physically or mentally disabled or those kids who have never seen the sea. Why do you need a march to prove you have the same rights as a straight person, you do. Do something noble and spend the money on an elderly person who cant afford too heat their home properly and not on a march.

thats fine, I dont like the company of gay people and they dont like mine, but it doesn't disguise the fact that we should spend money on the underprivilaged and other disadvantaged groups in society, not gay prides.

I can see your point, im comfortable being around gay people and am very tolerant of other peoples lifestyles. But I agree, the money could be better spent on other things, gay people have the same rights as anybody else so why have a march to celebrate or publicise their sexuality? Spending it on the homeless for example would be much more dignified

I would have thought a Gay Pride event would be capable of funding itself?

My straight friend went with his wife and kids - had a brilliant time. Said it made him proud to be British.





Yes theres loads for kids to do at a Gay Pride event, its better than going to Blackpool.

Bet the kids loved it.

Ok I am at work so please excuse me if I repeat something that has been said, I haven't been able to look all through properly.

I like some people used to think that Gay Pride was a bit of a joke and something you'd never get me doing... I am not a gay that wants to wave his flag from the roof tops... HOWEVER I am honest enough to say that was a stupid thing to think. Saturday in Manchester was my first ever pride... and I couldn't believe just how great it was... and do you know what made it great? The fact that to one side of me was a straight family with there two young kids and to the other side were an old grandma and grandad... people that wern't even gay who were able to come out and see what was going on and ACCEPT the people of their communities. And how great a thing is it to see families encouraging there kids to be more accepting and appreciative of the differences we have in society...

So for me thats what a gay pride is for... its for opening some eyes and making people think about change and getting us all to a place and a day where we can all be seen as normal and shake off this difference image. Gay pride is something hugely important and I for one will be draggin my mum to one next year as I think it is an eye opener... and it was even one for me.

Slate it all if you want, but there is a valid place for a pride event and Sheffield should have one.

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Yes theres loads for kids to do at a Gay Pride event, its better than going to Blackpool.

The two things are very similar, but glad to see you've changed your mind. :)

thats fine, I dont like the company of gay people and they dont like mine, but it doesn't disguise the fact that we should spend money on the underprivilaged and other disadvantaged groups in society, not gay prides.

Sheffield City Council will have a yearly budget for giving grants to local organisations, clubs, events etc. It may give money to a football club, a dramatic society, a childrens nursery, disadvantaged groups, a gay pride event, or a registered charity etc. The finance people will have allocated X number of pounds to do this during the current financial year, as they will for future financial years. At sometime in its existence, most every law abiding bona fide group who has applied, will have had or will get, some financial assistance from the council. I have belonged to groups who have had such assistance.

When I saw The Rocky Horror Show, I was amazed at the number of men who arrived in basques, fishnet tights and high heels. I suppose some were straight and some were gay. It didn't matter - they all mixed in. I am too old and fat to drag up, but I had to admire the guts of those who did, as some of them walked through the city centre in their 'finery'. I couldn't care less what people are. I look for a good character and 'niceness' in people. If I don't like what I find, I keep quiet and find an excuse to move on.

Sheffield City Council will have a yearly budget for giving grants to local organisations, clubs, events etc. It may give money to a football club, a dramatic society, a childrens nursery, disadvantaged groups, a gay pride event, or a registered charity etc. The finance people will have allocated X number of pounds to do this during the current financial year, as they will for future financial years. At sometime in its existence, most every law abiding bona fide group who has applied, will have had or will get, some financial assistance from the council. I have belonged to groups who have had such assistance.

When I saw The Rocky Horror show, I was amazed at the number of men who arrived in basques, fishnet tights and high heels. I suppose some were straight and some were gay. It didn't matter - they all mixed in. I am too old and fat to drag up, but I had to admire the guts of those who did, as some of them walked through the city centre in their 'finery'. I couldn't care less what people are. I look for a good character and 'niceness' in people. If I don't like what I find, I keep quiet and find an excuse to move on'.

Well I'd hope that while all can apply, a football club, a dramatic society, a childrens nursery, disadvantaged groups or a registered charity would take priority over a fancy dress ****-up for gays. From my experience pretty much all the gay people I've met are nice people and would share this view of priorities.

Well I'd hope that while all can apply, a football club, a dramatic society, a childrens nursery, disadvantaged groups or a registered charity would take priority over a fancy dress ****-up for gays. From my experience pretty much all the gay people I've met are nice people and would share this view of priorities.

Hi Andrew. I wouldn't list these groups in a priority listing. That's not what I meant. The finance people/committee will most likely meet and have a number of applications set before them at that meeting. All law abiding sections of the community have to be given equal consideration and treatment by the council, otherwise it would be accused of favouritism. The present council did not get my vote , incidentally - I am not flying its flag. I have looked at all the postings within this thread, and can not see one which states the council would foot the bill for gay pride, or be asked to. I have never experienced a parade or event of any kind other than the Rag Days and the old Sheffield Shows, but I think whether one was staged by a marching band, gay pride, or any other group - and it caused people to be happy for a few hours, then it has to be a good thing. I remember years ago how popular the Rag Day Parades were - six foot fairies with beards too. All taken in good fun.

As someone who used to live in Sheffield, I think a Gay Pride event would be excellent for the city. I have attended London, Brighton and Manchester Pride with my wife to be.

Pride events are there to not only boost the morale of the LGBT community but the hetero community too. Pride is about celebrating being able to be openly gay and being able to have rights as a gay person. For many centauries gay people have had to hide how they feel in public. However, thanks the changing views of society and government we are able to leave as we choose to live, not how others dictate!

Oh and to all those wingeing on about council funding, get a grip!

Brighton Pride is funded by fund raising by general public - ie dog shows or sponsored wax session down the gay pubs and clubs. They also get local businesses to sponsor a float. Brighton does not charge people to go and watch parades or go to the Park where they have loads of fun things to do and see.

Can I just put the council funding rumours into perspective - we are not receiving financial support from the City Council, they have supported us in kind in some areas but apart from that we are raising money ourselves through funding bids, events etc.

If you want to check out what we're up to at the moment go to www.southyorkshirepride.co.uk

Ta X

Sounds like an excellent idea. I've been meaning to go to the Manchester ones with my gay friends for a few years now and never got round to paying for a band (which I would assume some of the funds would come from?). Would mean I got to go home to my bed too instead of another hotel for the night!

a genuine question, but why on earth does being gay have to do with bars and nightclubs?, i can understand this more if you are quite young, but surely there are thousands of gay people who lead basically quiet lives or just stay in and watch eastenders. Tbh, it seems a bit like the SWP being seen as representing the left, all shouting and histrionics, they don't. Surely the gay community is more diverse than a load of clubbers.

Just been to the latest monthly Pride Open Meeting tonight, and a lot has been achieved in the necessary groundwork for organising the event which is confirmed and set in stone for SATURDAY 7TH JUNE. Details such as the main stage line-up and venue for the event have been sorted, but there is pleny more help needed in terms of support and volunteering both beforehand on the day. See the Pride website for details, at: http://www.southyorkshirepride.co.uk
Open Meetings will be held on a Monday night each month (The date for the Feb one is awaiting confirmation), and in addition there are frequent Committee meetings (Committee members ONLY). Again look at the website for details re. Open Meetings and for enquiries email: team@southyorkshirepride.co.uk

I heard about the sheffield pride and am hoping to be able to help out in any small way i can- and i just came on here to say congratulations to those who have got the act together and are sorting it out. Having just found this thread, I am bemused and dismayed to find having read all though it that there are a few gnarled old trolling bigots who have persisted in plaguing this thread with miserable homophobic guttersniping... for nearly 2 years... what a joke. Why dont you just crawl off and leave us alone!!

Nicely proving the point that there's still work to gbe doen until we get full acceptance not just in law but in people's way of thinking. And till people's attitudes match the statute books, it cant hurt to have the occasional jolly partty festival to cheer people up and show the positive side.

Up the Pridescateers!

Hurray!!

I heard about the sheffield pride and am hoping to be able to help out in any small way i can- and i just came on here to say congratulations to those who have got the act together and are sorting it out. Having just found this thread, I am bemused and dismayed to find having read all though it that there are a few gnarled old trolling bigots who have persisted in plaguing this thread with miserable homophobic guttersniping... for nearly 2 years... what a joke. Why dont you just crawl off and leave us alone!!
Nicely proving the point that there's still work to gbe doen until we get full acceptance not just in law but in people's way of thinking. And till people's attitudes match the statute books, it cant hurt to have the occasional jolly partty festival to cheer people up and show the positive side.

Up the Pridescateers!

Hurray!!







Its called debate, and having opinions different to your own and repecting others opinions

Called tolerance I believe

yes true but you put on evidence of gays harassing a strait person cus of there sexuality they remove it unless it was me that fogot to post it :roll:



doesnt seem to be much of a debate seems a bit to heavy on the left to me

yes true but you put on evidence of gays harassing a strait person cus of there sexuality they remove it unless it was me that fogot to post it :roll:


It was completely irrelevant to this thread and so merely a lame attempt at trolling.

but ''gay'' people are accepted into society and have been for years so why the need to parade?? why do you need to celebrate your sexuality? do ''hetrosexual'' people go round holding banners saying '' look at me i'm straight lets all celebrate'' why is that there has to be that need to be accepted when you already are?

these are genuine questions by the way, i am not being condiscending in anyway at all!

I agree with richjob in his post #106 and to elaborate further.....

To me, a gay pride parade/march/event is a mult-level event. It is a political event as well as a celebration and can even be a tourist attraction! It's not just about gay people celebrating sexuality and equality, it's about EVERYONE celebrating together! It's also about raising public awareness of oppression, discrimination and prejudices, such as homophobia and heterosexism. One reason many people feel the need to 'come out' to family and friends and/or to celebrate their homosexuality in public, by way of some kind of gay pride event, is to try to raise awareness of these political issues (and there's no rule to say that a political event can't be fun at the same time!).

Pride is not just about "being accepted into society" either - aka 'tolerated' - the thing is, British culture and society is geared towards heterosexuality and any one individual is automatically presumed to be 'straight', until otherwise stated, and then follows the prejudice and oppression. This is heterosexism. 'Coming out' and pride events are ways of fighting for equality as well as ways of raising awareness, highlighting and fighting against oppression and prejudice inherent and incipient in our society. The end result is hopefully that attitudes are changed.

SEE THIS LINK (http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/prej_defn.html) for articles containing definitions of heterosexism etc. and interesting related articles. (I know it's an American link, but the information is still relevant to this country, even if some of the statistics aren't.)

re- trolling bigots.

Thank you for demonstrating that you clearly know who you are!! lol. I am just puzzled at why some forummers who clearly dont like gay people or the idea of a gay event persistetly check a topic like this and keep on trolling. There doesnt seem to be much debate, just a load of nonsense.

Holding any kind of community event can lift the spirits of local people, plus pride events are an important way of shwoing that gay people exist, and are just as varied and weird/ normal as any other cross section of people.

Surely the gay community is more diverse than a load of clubbers.

It is but if you're not on the "scene" you might as well be dead.

It is but if you're not on the "scene" you might as well be dead.

Surely by "dead" you mean 'invisible' (http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2712023/2/istockphoto_2712023_skeleton_in_the_closet.jpg)? Invisibility is what causes so many problems in the first place! ;)

Surey by "dead" you mean 'invisible'? Invisibility is what causes so many problems in the first place!

I'm not invisible, I can be found in many pubs in Sheffield, just not gay ones.

I'm not invisible, I can be found in many pubs in Sheffield, just not gay ones.

youre not a proper gay then!

youre not a proper gay then!

It's funny but a lot of people think that.

youre not a proper gay then!

your one of those gays that are like Goths that want to be different but want to stand out as being really different when theres millions of you and no need to promote it :roll:

your one of those gays that are like Goths that want to be different but want to stand out as being really different when theres millions of you and no need to promote it :roll:


Is that a statement or a question? Do you presume to know more about Nicks life than Nick does? Has it occurred to you that maybe he doesn't define himself first and foremost by his sexuality?

Will there be drag?

your one of those gays that are like Goths that want to be different but want to stand out as being really different when theres millions of you and no need to promote it :roll:

Being gay myself there are certainly plenty of these types around on the scene (attention grabbers that are into being gay just to be different) but plenty more that aren't.

Being gay myself there are certainly plenty of these types around on the scene (attention grabbers that are into being gay just to be different) but plenty more that aren't.


This smacks of the bitchiness and division that you were mentioning on this thread:



As somebody whos been out on the gay scene for over 20 years but who rarely goes out in Sheffield i thought you might like to know the reasons why.

1/Manchester. This is where I can be found at least a couple of times a month in the much friendlier and attractive environment of the gay village as compared to Sheffields bitchy, divided scene where even on this thread there is still this bitchy undertone that comes from the inferiority complex that the Sheffield gay scene still has after all these years.

2/Cliqueyness. Again brought about by the small size and bitchyness of the scene whereby if you don't fit into a certain stereotype then you are made to feel uncomfortable/unwelcome as opposed to Manchester where there is so much diversity of style/dress, attitude, culture etc that there is something there for everyone all within the village. This brings about a more harmonious atmosphere.

Being gay myself there are certainly plenty of these types around on the scene (attention grabbers that are into being gay just to be different) but plenty more that aren't.

yep there the ones I'm on about not nick but the protenious one that said he wasn't a proper gay just grabbed me as a silly statement

This smacks of the bitchiness and division that you were mentioning on this thread:

Not bitchiness, just an obsevation of the difference between the two scenes where in Manchester you come across more people who are comfortable with themselves and their sexuality and therefore don't feel the need to be different but are simply just being themselves (which may be different) and those in Sheffield who seem more unsure about themselves and you therefore see them latching on to the latest fad or trend to give them some 'street cred'.

:confused:

I could be wrong but is a fine 'modern' city such as Sheffield not due a pride event of some sort?

If I am totally mistaken and have been living under a rock and missed a huge parade, somebody please correct me, but so far the summer events on the scene seem to be confined to themed nights at Fuel and the odd barbeque. Even Huddersfield has the Pink Picnic, and Doncaster is having a pride this summer too I believe. Come on, they're making us look bad!

If there are people out there who agree with this sentiment, please reply, and why not get a committee together? It wont happen unless someone makes the first move.

what good would a gay pride do for sheffield when lets face it theres no gay pubs left in sheffield only so called clubs /bars that rip u off

i think we should have a mardi gras thing like someone mentionned before
Have a general party and celebration with all different groups parading.... what better way to unite the city, create awareness and as stated get drunk

is there a need for this event? i find it quite ammusing the attitude of some gays to be honest. there are gay bars and club nights, not loads but there isnt a need for loads. you have lots of gay friendly straight places.

why the need to shout from the roof top about being gay? so what if some people dont accept you, full acceptance is never possible. you have to get over the fact that a few people will be disgusted by the fact that 2 men together is wrong, shrug your shoulders and forget about it!

so what if some drunk idiot shouts queer now and then, think of how many times fat people will hear people snigger and whisper porky under their breath..

how on earth can the gay community whinge about oppresion and discrimination when it is actually illegal. who passed those laws? straight people.

instead of whinging and complaining so much why not be thankful for the country we live in and if some idiot wants to be abusive think of yourself as bigger than them and hold your head high!

so i come back to is there a need for this event? as a gay pride event, which is purely for gay pride no matter what you try and say, i would argue no. why not stop trying to make yourself out to be different and instead hold a mardi gras which would actually encourage more straight people to dress up and get involved. it doesnt have to be called a gay pride event and i have to admit to finding the need for one confusing.

is there a need for this event? i find it quite ammusing the attitude of some gays to be honest. there are gay bars and club nights, not loads but there isnt a need for loads. you have lots of gay friendly straight places.

why the need to shout from the roof top about being gay? so what if some people dont accept you, full acceptance is never possible. you have to get over the fact that a few people will be disgusted by the fact that 2 men together is wrong, shrug your shoulders and forget about it!

so what if some drunk idiot shouts queer now and then, think of how many times fat people will hear people snigger and whisper porky under their breath..

how on earth can the gay community whinge about oppresion and discrimination when it is actually illegal. who passed those laws? straight people.

instead of whinging and complaining so much why not be thankful for the country we live in and if some idiot wants to be abusive think of yourself as bigger than them and hold your head high!

so i come back to is there a need for this event? as a gay pride event, which is purely for gay pride no matter what you try and say, i would argue no. why not stop trying to make yourself out to be different and instead hold a mardi gras which would actually encourage more straight people to dress up and get involved. it doesnt have to be called a gay pride event and i have to admit to finding the need for one confusing.

your just been silly grow up

is there a need for this event? i find it quite ammusing the attitude of some gays to be honest. there are gay bars and club nights, not loads but there isnt a need for loads. you have lots of gay friendly straight places.

why the need to shout from the roof top about being gay? so what if some people dont accept you, full acceptance is never possible. you have to get over the fact that a few people will be disgusted by the fact that 2 men together is wrong, shrug your shoulders and forget about it!

so what if some drunk idiot shouts queer now and then, think of how many times fat people will hear people snigger and whisper porky under their breath..

how on earth can the gay community whinge about oppresion and discrimination when it is actually illegal. who passed those laws? straight people.

instead of whinging and complaining so much why not be thankful for the country we live in and if some idiot wants to be abusive think of yourself as bigger than them and hold your head high!

so i come back to is there a need for this event? as a gay pride event, which is purely for gay pride no matter what you try and say, i would argue no. why not stop trying to make yourself out to be different and instead hold a mardi gras which would actually encourage more straight people to dress up and get involved. it doesnt have to be called a gay pride event and i have to admit to finding the need for one confusing.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2058989,00.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=505928&in_page_id=1770


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whats the purpose of those links? for starters they are from the times and daily mail, not the most liberal of publications..

the first link is common sense, its tightening the law regarding discriminating against someone because of their sexuality, something the gay community should surely applaud?? how can the gay community complain about not being able to bar straights when they would be the first to cause uproar if a "straight bar" refused entry to a gay man because of his sexuality? anyone causing trouble can be removed an barred. besides, i have been to fuel, dempseys and climax and im straight but didnt have trouble getting in.
this is just making an issue when there isnt one.

your just been silly grow up

if you think so state why.

whats the purpose of those links? for starters they are from the times and daily mail, not the most liberal of publications..

the first link is common sense, its tightening the law regarding discriminating against someone because of their sexuality, something the gay community should surely applaud?? how can the gay community complain about not being able to bar straights when they would be the first to cause uproar if a "straight bar" refused entry to a gay man because of his sexuality? anyone causing trouble can be removed an barred. besides, i have been to fuel, dempseys and climax and im straight.
this is just making an issue when there isnt one.

i agree 100% i was highlighting the facts

err yeah i knew that :blush::hihi:

your just been silly grow up





What was wrong with what Preacher Man said? sounded reasonable to me.

re- trolling bigots.

Thank you for demonstrating that you clearly know who you are!! lol. I am just puzzled at why some forummers who clearly dont like gay people or the idea of a gay event persistetly check a topic like this and keep on trolling. There doesnt seem to be much debate, just a load of nonsense.

Holding any kind of community event can lift the spirits of local people, plus pride events are an important way of shwoing that gay people exist, and are just as varied and weird/ normal as any other cross section of people.




But people know gay people exsist, so why the need for a silly booze up?

The only people who believe gay people are singled out are gay people themselves.

Some people will poke fun, but then I poke fun at Bald Men (hair one head I'm refering to)

How about a straight pride?

Very similar to my my bugbear about "ladies only" events. If there was a men only event there would be uproar just as there would about a straight event.

Just reminded myself of the muslim only day at Alton Towers - that was the one to beat everything - luckily it was cancelled but what a stupid idea.

if there was a gay event i would go along with my lesbian mates, i could just imagine that if it wasnt called gay pride it would be more inclusive which is the aim isnt it?

your one of those gays that are like Goths that want to be different but want to stand out as being really different when theres millions of you and no need to promote it :roll:

Not at all, im one of those hetros just dabbling in a gay thread

Not at all, im one of those hetros just dabbling in a gay thread

so who are you to say to a gay man youre not a proper gay then! :huh:

so you knew something about nick he doesnt

so who are you to say to a gay man youre not a proper gay then! :huh:


I think he was joking.

bus driver- you are right that its not all doom and gloom for 'the gays', things are moving on, both in terms of attitudes and the law. But ghay people do face real discrimination, sometimes stuff goes well beyond poking fun, my other half was chased through a residential area by a group of 6 lads who were shouting that they wanted to kick his f-ing head in, and gay b------d, etc, and he isnt particularly 'flamboyant' or attention-drawing really. These sorts of gay events are just a way of trying to make things open and help people feel less uncomfortable, about either their own or other people's sexuality.

Some people, gay and straight, have lots of different views about how political (small p) the gay community should be. After all, the changes in the laws in the last 10 years wouldnt have come about without gay people and their supporters helping decision makers understand where there were problems and how to fix them.

I think it's a shame for people who say they feel uncomfortable around gay people, because no-one should feel threatened/ uncomfortable/ ill at ease about stuff- it isnt a nice feeling. Hopefully being able to have these kinds of conversations helps everyone realise that some gay people are sound, some are twerps, just like any cros section of people. No need to feel uncomfortable. It's not like just cos someone's gay they are gonna try and make a move on you! I dont like to think about what my parents do in bed- so i dont think about it!! Problem solved.

What my earlier post was driving at was that i think it's unusual for people to be so interested in these issues, that they keep coming on a forum and banging on about it. At first i felt threatened by that but having read on I think it's better for people to talk things through, than bottle them up and not 'deal' with it. Until you talk to people and get to grips wityh where they're coming from, you cant understansd them and that works both ways.

So i take it all back,. sorry.

But please let those who want to have this event discuss it, rather than hogging the thread with the same old 'gay vs not gay' debates!

To pride people- any bands sorted yet?

I think he was joking.

Cheers nick2 for making it clear for Ghettosniper!

i think i have made the assumption that because i dont have a problem with anybody who might be gay that i assume only a small minority do, and they can be ignored. do gays really still suffer from that much abuse? its a sad reflection on our supposed enlightened society if they do!

How about a straight pride?

Very similar to my my bugbear about "ladies only" events. If there was a men only event there would be uproar just as there would about a straight event.

Just reminded myself of the muslim only day at Alton Towers - that was the one to beat everything - luckily it was cancelled but what a stupid idea.

There are men only events! For example, every time the sauna is deemed for use by 'men only'.