View Full Version : How do you say Patons?


gempud
04-08-2007, 17:29
It's bugging me!

Do you pronounce it PA TONS as in the word 'pattern' but with an 'ons' instead of 'ern' at the end

OR

Do you pronounce it PAY TONS?




Yes, I am sad enough to not have anything else to think about on a Saturday night

Wool4brains
04-08-2007, 17:39
You really need to get out more. So do I. Paytons but I've never thought about it up until now.

Wheezy
04-08-2007, 18:05
You say pot a toe I say pa ta toe....


I say pay tuns

What about skein then? I've heard a lot of variations for that one........

AmelieB
04-08-2007, 18:37
I say pat tuns.

Madam_Bo
04-08-2007, 18:45
I say pat tuns.

So do I. Ooh, we should have a flame war about this.

AmelieB
04-08-2007, 19:07
We can avoid a war if they just admit that we are right and they are wrong. Simple :)

littlemissy
04-08-2007, 19:13
We can avoid a war if they just admit that we are right and they are wrong. Simple :)

Well, I agree with you guys so it is 3vs2 (I think ... ) Pat tuns all the way :D

Wheezy
04-08-2007, 19:26
:rant:Pay tuns :rant:

Becky B
04-08-2007, 20:04
This sounds like me and my housemate arguing about how to pronounce 'scone' :hihi:

I say Pat-ons - say it like it's written, there's no y in it!!!:D

gempud
04-08-2007, 20:43
Oohhh I say Pat -ons too! I thought I was saying it wrong. Maybe I should have had this as a poll :)

Skein Wheezy? Hmmm, I say 'skeen'...what about everyone else?

It's really hard because I don't verbally talk to anyone else who knits so for all I know I say stuff all wrong.

AmelieB
04-08-2007, 21:14
Skein is pronounced skane. FACT!

JoeP
04-08-2007, 21:16
I'm not a knitter but my aunt was, bless her. It was Payton to her. If it were spelt with 2 ts, tehn it would be Pat-ton, as in the US General of WW2.

beansforyou
04-08-2007, 21:27
pat-on and skeen

AmelieB
04-08-2007, 21:51
I'm not a knitter but my aunt was, bless her. It was Payton to her. If it were spelt with 2 ts, tehn it would be Pat-ton, as in the US General of WW2.

Ah, but that presumes that pronunciation follows obvious and sensible rules - the delights of English is that it is filled with anomolies such as trough and plough and ought.

JillM
04-08-2007, 22:04
It is most definitely paytons and skayne.
So there.......(I believe I am the oldest poster so therefore must be right....!!)

Plain Talker
04-08-2007, 22:04
pat-ons, for me, and skayne...

AmelieB
04-08-2007, 22:17
It is most definitely paytons and skayne.
So there.......(I believe I am the oldest poster so therefore must be right....!!)

50% correct. Not bad for an old wrinkly....

AmelieB
04-08-2007, 22:18
pat-ons, for me, and skayne...

Hurrah! Someone is totally and utterly correct. You can join the cool kidz gang now :D

JillM
04-08-2007, 22:47
50% correct. Not bad for an old wrinkly....

Don't push it kiddywinkle - I am 100% correct and don't argue with someone of my age........:D
thread closed surely?????

JillM
04-08-2007, 23:03
I have contacted Coats and asked how Patons is pronounced. Clearly, if they tell me it is Paytons I will let you know straight away. If they suggest it is Pattons then I will let you know they haven't bothered to answer:roll: That should clear things up:P

bensonhedges
04-08-2007, 23:07
One consonant after a vowel makes the vowel a long sound, qed pay-tons. As Joe said, two consonants would give patt ons.

beansforyou
04-08-2007, 23:16
So what about Baton then? that majorettes use?

Thats pronounced Bat-on not Bay-ton

AmelieB
04-08-2007, 23:16
Yet 'fratenise', for example, is pronounced as though it has a double t after the a. As Patons is a proper noun then it is even less likely to follow pronunciation 'rules' than most words.

AmelieB
04-08-2007, 23:17
So what about Baton then? that majorettes use?

Thats pronounced Bat-on not Bay-ton

Ezzackerly!

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 00:07
Shall we move on to teacakes and breadcakes? No best not....... Nice to see that Pay tuns is most in favour.......

Madam_Bo
05-08-2007, 07:37
pat-ons, for me, and skayne...

Me too. All you heretics, BRING IT ON!

As for tea cakes and breadcakes... I lived in Manchester for a year, and as a result am quite fond of "barm", as in "let's have a chip barm for teas."

bensonhedges
05-08-2007, 07:48
I believe baton and franchise are foreign words and therefore not subject to our weird english rules.

AmelieB
05-08-2007, 08:49
But English is a bastardised language, so it's hard to see how some words can be 'English' and some not. How far back are you going in etymological history?!

Becky B
05-08-2007, 08:51
I have contacted Coats and asked how Patons is pronounced. Clearly, if they tell me it is Paytons I will let you know straight away. If they suggest it is Pattons then I will let you know they haven't bothered to answer:roll: That should clear things up:P

Ooh she's firing with the big guns now!!

For the record, I say skayne, if I ever use the word:D

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 08:51
Me too. All you heretics, BRING IT ON!

As for tea cakes and breadcakes... I lived in Manchester for a year, and as a result am quite fond of "barm", as in "let's have a chip barm for teas."

A tea cake is like a bread cake only with raisens (wool) and a bread cake is something you use for a sandwich (yarn). A chip butty is - chips on a bread cake (fleece).

pattricia
05-08-2007, 08:53
Do you say Bath as in naff, or Bath as in scarf ? They were talking abouth this on Radio Sheffield this week. I think Londoners say Bath as in scarf, dont they ?n

gempud
05-08-2007, 08:55
Oooops I started a war!

The reason why I asked was because I watched a telly programme that I recorded that had Joanna Lumley ('you don't have to be posh to be privelaged') on it. And she said she used to model knitwear and she pronounced it as Pay-tons. I say Pat-ons. I thought that there must be a posh way of saying it and a non posh way. I'm common as muck so Pat-ons it is :)

What about Regia? I say Reeja. I have heard someone else call it Reja and also Rejia. Which one is it?

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 08:55
Do you say Bath as in naff, or Bath as in scarf ? They were talking abouth this on Radio Sheffield this week. I think Londeners say Bath as in scarf, dont they ?n

Can you at least mention something knittified? Bath as in path by the way (double knitting)

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 08:57
Oooops I started a war!

The reason why I asked was because I watched a telly programme that I recorded that had Joanna Lumley ('you don't have to be posh to be privelaged') on it. And she said she used to model knitwear and she pronounced it as Pay-tons. I say Pat-ons. I thought that there must be a posh way of saying it and a non posh way. I'm common as muck so Pat-ons it is :)

What about Regia? I say Reeja. I have heard someone else call it Reja and also Rejia. Which one is it?

Re guy a - tut tut :roll:

pattricia
05-08-2007, 08:59
Can you at least mention something knittified? Bath as in path by the way (double knitting)

Sorry Wheezy, only just noticed that this is under the Knitting Group. The only thing I cannot do. :(

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 09:01
Sorry Wheezy, only just noticed that this is under the Knitting Group. The only thing I cannot do. :(

It's OK pattricia, we're a friendly group here, and you mentioned the word knitting in your last post so that's ok...... :hihi:

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 09:02
Ooh she's firing with the big guns now!!

For the record, I say skayne, if I ever use the word:D

Why did we suddenly get these skaynes, skeens, skeins, skins anyway? What was wrong with a good old fashioned ball? :suspect:

gempud
05-08-2007, 09:03
Because Skeins look pretty!

pattricia
05-08-2007, 09:04
Why did we suddenly get these skaynes, skeens, skeins, skins anyway? What was wrong with a good old fashioned ball? :suspect:

How does one pronounce "scone". ooops I had better go hadnt I ?:roll:

AmelieB
05-08-2007, 09:05
Bath with a flat a sound. Regia as ree-ja.

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 09:05
Because Skeins look pretty!

Don't you mean skean as in seen?

AmelieB
05-08-2007, 09:06
How does one pronounce "scone". ooops I had better go hadnt I ?:roll:

Now you've done it! Scone with a flat o (to rhyme with gone).

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 09:07
How does one pronounce "scone". ooops I had better go hadnt I ?:roll:

Scone as in stone. I think Scon sounds too posh and hoi ti toi ti :hihi:

pattricia
05-08-2007, 09:09
Scone as in stone. I think Scon sounds too posh and hoi ti toi ti :hihi:

I pronounce it as in stone.:)

AmelieB
05-08-2007, 09:10
Scone as in stone. I think Scon sounds too posh and hoi ti toi ti :hihi:

I think the way you pronounce it sounds posher! Anyway, I cannot spend the morning arguing, I have crochet to wrestle with. So there.

Becky B
05-08-2007, 09:12
Scone as in stone. I think Scon sounds too posh and hoi ti toi ti :hihi:

I'm with you. I constantly argue with my housemate about it (see earlier post) - he thinks scone as in stone is posh!!!! Even when I say it in my best Black Country accent :hihi: How is that possible?
We need to find out how the Queen pronounces it :D

Wheezy
05-08-2007, 09:13
I think the way you pronounce it sounds posher! Anyway, I cannot spend the morning arguing, I have crochet to wrestle with. So there.

I thought that people thought that that way was posher but it's not! If I said scon, I'd feel very uncomfortable about it as if I was trying to be summat I'm not :o:D Go, go wrestle AmelieB and come back with a good picture....... set your creativity free......... (debbie bliss - pronounced e x p e n s i v e)

knitbird
05-08-2007, 14:47
Only just read this thread, but having met someone who works for Regia, it's Reg-ee-ah. (German company so they pronounce all the letters.)

It's Rowan's Cotton Glace that troubles me. No acute accent, so should it be pronounced in the French way (Glass-ay) or as written. (To rhyme with lace)? I've heard people from Rowan pronounce it both ways. :huh:

gempud
05-08-2007, 15:37
I would say Glace to rhyme with lace. I think I've heard it pronounced Glass though.

AmelieB
05-08-2007, 16:08
I say it the French way

littlemissy
05-08-2007, 20:07
Right. The definitive answers from littlemissy are:

pat-uns
skeen
scon (to rhyme with gone) - pronounced the other way sounds 'hoi ti toi ti' as wheezy delicately put it
rej-ee-ya
glace (to rhyme with lace)

and it's chip butties (a chip barm?! you're having a laugh! :p )

A couple of these are definitely the Scot in me, I reckon :lol:

knitbird
05-08-2007, 20:31
Butty? I think you mean "batch"! Anyone else here from Leamington or Coventry who can back me up? I think I might be on to a loser here....

And however I pronounce glace it sounds wrong.

AmelieB
05-08-2007, 20:41
They call em cobs in Mansfield. I got looked at like I was mad when I asked for a bacon butty.

Plain Talker
05-08-2007, 20:45
regia, I'd have said "ray- sha"

glace? glass-ay (like the cherries)

scone? for me, rhymes with "gone"

JillM
06-08-2007, 08:03
Why did we suddenly get these skaynes, skeens, skeins, skins anyway? What was wrong with a good old fashioned ball? :suspect:

When I was a little girl all yarn came in skeins. Told you I was old....

JillM
06-08-2007, 12:40
have had a very rapid response from Coats and here it is:
>>>Hello

Thank you for your enquiry The correct pronunciation is Paytons.
Assuring you of our best attention at all times. <<<<

For any non-believers PM me your email address and I will forward it on.

So -:banana: :clap:I am right - in fact, AmelieB, I do believe that makes me 100% correct in the Patons/skein discussion and leaves you at just the 50%......:hihi:
What a lovely day..............

Becky B
06-08-2007, 13:22
Phooey. I'm still going to say it how I think it should be!
Like scone, it's most definitely scone not scon so there :P

Wheezy
06-08-2007, 13:36
have had a very rapid response from Coats and here it is:
>>>Hello

Thank you for your enquiry The correct pronunciation is Paytons.
Assuring you of our best attention at all times. <<<<

For any non-believers PM me your email address and I will forward it on.

So -:banana: :clap:I am right - in fact, AmelieB, I do believe that makes me 100% correct in the Patons/skein discussion and leaves you at just the 50%......:hihi:
What a lovely day..............


You're not the smug quiet type then? :rolleyes:

JillM
06-08-2007, 14:54
Phooey. I'm still going to say it how I think it should be!
Like scone, it's most definitely scone not scon so there :P

I agree - it is scone, not scon so there!

JillM
06-08-2007, 14:55
You're not the smug quiet type then? :rolleyes:

Me??? Smug? No...
Quiet? No....:D

gempud
06-08-2007, 20:30
Pah! Pat-ons! Obviously the Pat-ons workers need to be fired and new ones taken on. Ones that can actually pronounce their product name correctly.

PAT-ONS! :)

JillM
06-08-2007, 21:00
Pah! Pat-ons! Obviously the Pat-ons workers need to be fired and new ones taken on. Ones that can actually pronounce their product name correctly.

PAT-ONS! :)

You are just going to have to accept it gempud. It really is PAY-TONS:hihi:

AmelieB
06-08-2007, 21:09
I do believe that makes me 100% correct in the Patons/skein discussion

First time for everything I suppose.....

gempud
07-08-2007, 17:05
You are just going to have to accept it gempud. It really is PAY-TONS:hihi:

Never! I won't turn to the Dark Side and pronounce it your way!

*Weilds knitting needle at JillM in a light sabre fashion*

JillM
07-08-2007, 18:40
Never! I won't turn to the Dark Side and pronounce it your way!

*Weilds knitting needle at JillM in a light sabre fashion*

That is unnecessarily violent.......is that one of those needles that lights up?
Anyway it's not my way, it's the way:hihi:

gempud
07-08-2007, 18:55
Ok Ok we'll call a truce. If I say Pay-tons then I'm allowed to say Skein like skeen. There!

JillM
07-08-2007, 18:58
Ok Ok we'll call a truce. If I say Pay-tons then I'm allowed to say Skein like skeen. There!

I can hear someone stamping their foot in the distance........could be from Barnsley..:)

Wheezy
07-08-2007, 22:00
Ok Ok we'll call a truce. If I say Pay-tons then I'm allowed to say Skein like skeen. There!

What about Cudworth - Cud uth and Dodworth - Dod uth ? You should win this one gem! Come on, make it one all! :D

gempud
08-08-2007, 16:57
Cudduf and Doduf!

:D

Easy Peasy

JillM
08-08-2007, 17:46
Cudduf and Doduf!

:D

Easy Peasy

uf???? No, no, no......I was on the working mens club circuit there nearly 30 years ago and it is uth!!! (not, not Sunday lunchtime big dipping beore anyone asks....)
and yes - I did get a rebooking......

gempud
08-08-2007, 18:22
It must be me just being too common. Maybe that's why I love just outside of Dodworth - too common to be let in :)

Plain Talker
08-08-2007, 18:37
What about Cudworth - Cud uth and Dodworth - Dod uth ? You should win this one gem! Come on, make it one all! :D

correct-a-mundo, wheezy, Cudduth, and dodduth.