View Full Version : James Beattie signs for 4 million.


mickdalewood
04-08-2007, 12:16
James Beattie has signed for United for 4 million

Robbie Loving
04-08-2007, 12:19
And Carney has also signed formally today

with the little sex pot Sharpy scoring to make it 1-0 :D

tosh13
04-08-2007, 12:21
Brilliant signing with Carney as well,Beattie will be fantastic in the championship.

discodown
04-08-2007, 12:33
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_2640340,00.html

i'm not convinced that £4m is good value but lets hope i'm wrong

freyasdad
04-08-2007, 12:46
It has just stated on sky sports that he scored 13 goals last season in what was only a part season.
If that is the case then £4 million for a striker that has scored that many goals is good business.
The thing i stated before is does he have the desire to do well.
After loosing his place to Johnson then he has something to prove so lets hope he does the business for us this year.

blueandwhite
04-08-2007, 12:47
Hate to admit it but you've got a class player.

tosh13
04-08-2007, 12:50
Have faith discodown £4m for someone of Beatties quality is nothing ,look how much Preston got for Nugent.He will be a great signing.It show's what a good manager Robbo is to get someone of his calibre at the club,do you think we would have got the signings we have now if Warnock had been in charge I don't thinks so.Beattie suffered last season from confidence & it happens to all good strikers,look at Shearer he went something like 15 matches without scoring,I am not saying he is the same quality as Shearer but he is a Shearer type player.13 goals & hardly played I think Everton are nuts to let him go the kid is in his prime at 29.

Ousetunes
04-08-2007, 12:53
This could turn out to be a good signing. The emphasis here is on could because if not, it's a lot of money by United's standards and our history over big-money signings isn't that impressive.

However, a front line of Sharp and a re-invigorated Beattie both of whom have things to prove, albeit in totally different ways, supplemented by Stead (who looked the part last season) and the unlucky Hulse, could make us a formidable outfit.

The signing of Beattie is a big message to the rest of this league and Robson must have sold him the club for him to drop down a division. Along with the new midfield signings, other old players re-signing (to give continuity) and yet more money to spend, the only slight hiccup I can find is....Bryan Robson (which I've said all along). The excitement of signing a striker like Beattie (surely, last season was the time to gamble on such signings?) is tempered by the fact that we have a manager in whom I have quite some doubt. But, as Tosh points out, it was probably having Robbo as manager that lured Beattie to the Lane.

The bookies will have us as nailed-on favourites and on paper, we have a very strong side. But I cannot feel my confidence in the team extending to the manager (yet).

Still, it's a big signing and they are far and few between at the Lane. And of course, when one looks over at the lack of activity in Sheffield 6......,

Fingers crossed then. I am looking forward to the new season!!

tosh13
04-08-2007, 12:57
What did I say when Robbo was made manager,he can bring big signings to the club,his reputation is tops & all you non believers of Robbo,he could be the best manager we have ever had.

Ousetunes
04-08-2007, 13:02
What did I say when Robbo was made manager,he can bring big signings to the club,his reputation is tops & all you non believers of Robbo,he could be the best manager we have ever had.

I am prepared to wait and see. You are spot on in his being able to attract the players, though. I just wonder if the fans (and there is many a fickle 'un down the Lane) will give Robbo the time to get it right. Were we to go five games without a win, would they be prepared to show a little patience?

Whatever, we've made a big signing, got some other decent players in (Hendrie and Sharp) and when I see this team lining-up against the likes of Blackpool and Wolves, I will begin to feel a quite excited!

Well done Bryan Robson. Come on you Blaaaaaadddeeeesssss!!!

tosh13
04-08-2007, 13:07
I am prepared to wait and see. You are spot on in his being able to attract the players, though. I just wonder if the fans (and there is many a fickle 'un down the Lane) will give Robbo the time to get it right. Were we to go five games without a win, would they be prepared to show a little patience?

Whatever, we've made a big signing, got some other decent players in (Hendrie and Sharp) and when I see this team lining-up against the likes of Blackpool and Wolves, I will begin to feel a quite excited!

Well done Bryan Robson. Come on you Blaaaaaadddeeeesssss!!!

Do you know something Ousetunes ,if we had Fergy as manager some of the united fans would still find something to crow about,Fergy nearly lost his job at Man Utd & a FA cup match, Robins scored meaning he kept his job & the rest is history.

freyasdad
04-08-2007, 13:08
That remains to be seen tosh but he has added some quality to what was already a strong squad for this division.
We have now the strongest squad without any doubt for this league all we need now is the same passion from the players that the supporters have and that is down to the manager.

discodown
04-08-2007, 14:00
I don't doubt its a good signing. I'm just concerned that £4m is a lot of money and we seem to be putting our eggs in one basket. That said on his day the lad is quality but can he perform on a cold wet tuesday night at scunthorpe? We shall see, this could be a great signing but like freyasdad i'm not sold on Robsons ability to motivate. He can organise but I sometimes feel he trades on past player glories a bit.

I don't want the earth, just a manager who will persuade players to run through walls! I could forgive us not going up if I felt the team had tried their hearts out.

tosh13
04-08-2007, 14:25
I don't doubt its a good signing. I'm just concerned that £4m is a lot of money and we seem to be putting our eggs in one basket. That said on his day the lad is quality but can he perform on a cold wet tuesday night at scunthorpe? We shall see, this could be a great signing but like freyasdad i'm not sold on Robsons ability to motivate. He can organise but I sometimes feel he trades on past player glories a bit.

I don't want the earth, just a manager who will persuade players to run through walls! I could forgive us not going up if I felt the team had tried their hearts out.

Of course he can he played for Southampton & Everton ,not Man Utd,he will have played in the lower leagues earlier in his career & I don't see him as a mardy arse who want's to put a coat on when the weather get's bad.£4m is nothing in todays market & the players Robbo has brought in are real quality look at Hendrie for nothing.

boboskins
04-08-2007, 14:37
Hate to say it being an Owl but i think that's a great signing, if he stays fit. It wasn't that long ago he was in the England setup. Oh and Freyasdad, Sky need to get their facts straight. he's scored 13 in 51 games in his time at Everton. He scored 2 penalties all last season coz he was injured Beattie Profile (http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=9691).

Firemansam
04-08-2007, 18:04
I have to say, I'm well impressed at Robbo's ability to attract a player Like Beattie, I think it's a great signing for us. I think the lad is big, honest and very capable, may need a couple of games to find his feet, but when he does, watch out !! :thumbsup: :hihi: :thumbsup:

Agent Gypo
04-08-2007, 22:58
Well, this season we've spent £6million on strikers, an area I personally felt didn't require much more than Billy Sharp. Beattie needs to produce or he's going to be our worst ever forray into the transfer market.

David Carney is a totally unknown quantity to me. I've yet to see him play so I'll reserve judgement, but as a £50,000 signing I still feel we haven't addressed our midfield issues properly. I hope there are more signings on the way.

pitsmoorlad
05-08-2007, 06:17
with Stead, Hulse & Beattie don't you have 3 almost identical players? I can see Hulse on his way when he's recovered. Don't think he'll settle for being on the bench for too long.

CorkerSWFC
05-08-2007, 07:45
Good signing Beattie, but if i was a blade id prefer Hulse everyday of the week.

discodown
05-08-2007, 08:51
I would think we're not done yet in the transfer market. I was disappointed that Richardson didn't come to us

Agent Gypo
05-08-2007, 09:49
I would think we're not done yet in the transfer market. I was disappointed that Richardson didn't come to us

I wasn't. Sunderland paid way over the odds for him, no way is he worth £5.5million. Would have taken him for about £2million.

discodown
05-08-2007, 10:16
I agree, I wouldn't have paid 5.5 for him, but then I think 4 for beattie is a risk

CorkerSWFC
05-08-2007, 11:20
The thing is with Beattie is that he's very injury prone, but on his day he's a premiership striker.

Agent Gypo
05-08-2007, 18:48
Maybe, but we've still paid an inflated fee for him. Based on his injuries, and that he's barely found the net in two seasons, £4million isn't good business.

DavidRa
05-08-2007, 18:56
Maybe, but we've still paid an inflated fee for him. Based on his injuries, and that he's barely found the net in two seasons, £4million isn't good business.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating,we will not know until he plays fact he has the ability without doubt, the old saying has he, will he,can he, modern terminology he ticks two boxes but will he?
We are all armchair pundits but this signing gets me more excited than any signings last year.

mack69
05-08-2007, 19:01
The proof of the pudding is in the eating,we will not know until he plays fact he has the ability without doubt, the old saying has he, will he,can he, modern terminology he ticks two boxes but will he?
We are all armchair pundits but this signing gets me more excited than any signings last year.

if he helps you get up at the first attempt then fair enough 2/4 million seems the going rate for a striker these days anyway but are you really paying him 40k a week ?

freyasdad
05-08-2007, 19:01
The fact that we can now attract the sort of players like Beattie gives me the confidence for this season.

mack69
05-08-2007, 19:40
The fact that we can now attract the sort of players like Beattie gives me the confidence for this season.

40k a week tho will he have a scoring bonus and match winning bonus aswell?

Robbie Loving
05-08-2007, 19:54
with Stead, Hulse & Beattie don't you have 3 almost identical players? I can see Hulse on his way when he's recovered. Don't think he'll settle for being on the bench for too long.

You will see Stead leaving....

I would think we're not done yet in the transfer market. I was disappointed that Richardson didn't come to us

There was no chance of him ever coming to us, the only surprise to me was that he went to sunderland and not a bigger team,

freyasdad
06-08-2007, 08:00
I dont think so robbie as Stead is a fairly tall player that can play off another target man.
We have to remember that Hulse will probably miss the start of the season and bad injuries like what he had can be the end of a career.
I hope i am wrong but for me i think Horsfield and Nade are surplus to requirements.

Blade1983
06-08-2007, 08:56
Maybe, but we've still paid an inflated fee for him. Based on his injuries, and that he's barely found the net in two seasons, £4million isn't good business.

I'd hardly say "Barely found the net in 2 seasons" - he only scored 2 last season due to injury, but did he score 15 the season before? He was Everton's top scorer the season before anyway.

Blade1983
06-08-2007, 09:05
By the way - has anyone seen the interview with Beattie on Bladesworld?

Watched it last night and he says:

"The manager showed me the plans for the club, and new stadium"

... now, I don't know whether he meant new plans for the stadium, or whether he knows something we don't. But I can't imagine us moving to a new stadium when they've spent so much time and money on making the Lane look nice!

Ousetunes
06-08-2007, 10:21
By the way - has anyone seen the interview with Beattie on Bladesworld?

Watched it last night and he says:

"The manager showed me the plans for the club, and new stadium"



I would imagine he's referring to redevelopment of the present stadium with the new hotel, the new two-tier kop and further executive boxes in the South Stand.

These are on-going, long-term developments. All part of our rosy future, we hope!!

bladesufc1
06-08-2007, 11:41
That remains to be seen tosh but he has added some quality to what was already a strong squad for this division.
We have now the strongest squad without any doubt for this league all we need now is the same passion from the players that the supporters have and that is down to the manager.

and a stronger squad than last season!!

scottf
06-08-2007, 11:47
nah- were not paying him 40k a week- thats what he was on at everton, he would have taken a drop for sure but united like to build in performance related bonuses so he could be on £20k a week but gets 2k for playing, 5k for scoring - etc etc!!


Robson said yesterday that he still wants to buy 2 new midfielders including 1 attacking midfielder so im hoping he's going back to celtic for graveson or possibly to man u for someone like eagles.

Ousetunes
06-08-2007, 12:01
It's nice to know that Jagielka put in a good word for us when 'selling' the club to Beattie (according to the Blades website). Jagielka told Beattie all the positive things about the Blades and how moving to us could be a good move for him.

Hopefully, we'll be playing Jaggers' new club in just over a year's time.

Scottf - agreed with Eagles. He would be a good signing and he's young too.

crookesey
06-08-2007, 12:11
Beattie is a good signing but you now have circa seven recognised strikers, who do you think will leave? Horsefield IMHO is a definate to go and perhaps not too far away from S2, Hulse is too good to let go as is Stead. Sharp is the possible favourite to partner Beattie so it looks like Webber to partner Horsefield through the exit door.

Opinions please.

Tipex
06-08-2007, 12:22
Have faith discodown £4m for someone of Beatties quality is nothing ,look how much Preston got for Nugent.He will be a great signing.It show's what a good manager Robbo is to get someone of his calibre at the club,do you think we would have got the signings we have now if Warnock had been in charge I don't thinks so.Beattie suffered last season from confidence & it happens to all good strikers,look at Shearer he went something like 15 matches without scoring,I am not saying he is the same quality as Shearer but he is a Shearer type player.13 goals & hardly played I think Everton are nuts to let him go the kid is in his prime at 29.

Wouldnt say that about warnock, the guy got the best out of the current united line up. He also made it some of the best times for me at the lane.

8balltiger
06-08-2007, 12:53
We might be in for a surprise with Horse, I reckon he'll be on the bench next week. Stead, Hulse and Webber to go

Ousetunes
06-08-2007, 12:54
Beattie is a good signing but you now have circa seven recognised strikers, who do you think will leave? Horsefield IMHO is a definate to go and perhaps not too far away from S2, Hulse is too good to let go as is Stead. Sharp is the possible favourite to partner Beattie so it looks like Webber to partner Horsefield through the exit door.

Opinions please.

Well they all deserve a fair crack of the whip.

You forgot Luton Shelton who showed quite a bit of promise last season - against Man U at their place too.

Horsefield had a tough time under Warnock. He could still cut it at this level but if his mind's not in tune then a move elsewhere might be better for both parties. He'd actually fit the bill at Wednesday and no doubt he'd score against us in the derbies as ex-players usually do.

I was very impressed with what little I saw of Stead last season. I wouldn't want to see him leave as he's technically the best striker we probably have at the Lane. Should he go, we could recoup our losses, maybe even be quids in. But I think he has more to offer than the likes of

Beattie. Should get a goal every other game. He ought to be a real handful for Championship defences and he and Sharp would be my opening pairing.

Sharp. Despite all the goals last season and pre-season, this could either be the best season of his life, or it might take more than one season for him to find his feet. The fans might have to show patience - something that isn't in abundance on the Kop - but given time, he could score us the goals to get us up.

Hulse. Deserves as much time as he needs to recover and needs tha fans right behind him. He gave his all last season, usually being played up front and isolated on his own. But will Hulse and Robson shake hands and make-up? If not, then I reckon he could be on his way but again, we'd get a good fee for him. I only hope that his injuries don't prove to be career-threatening.


Shelton. Could be the ace up our sleeve, especially coming off the bench. He might need to eat a few more Mars bars first though.

Webber. If he's tuned in, this guy can do the business. The goal at Elland Road (remember them, former football team which Santa Claus came to 'look after') was one of the best I've seen any Blade score. But he might want to take his ball home if he doesn't get into the first team right away. Promising though he is, he can be his own worst enemy. I'd take £2 million for him.

bladesufc1
06-08-2007, 12:57
i still think he'll do the BLADES Well this season. he's not up against World Class Defenders this season, so it should be easy pickings for him

Overall career totals
Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
Total (Club) 326 (77) 91 34 1
League 282 (69) 81 28 1
FA Cup 21 (3) 3 6 0
League Cup 19 (4) 6 0 0
European/Others 4 (1) 1 0 0


Compare he against Jags Who Went

Overall career totals
Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
Total (Club) 287 (23) 22 14 2
League 257 (23) 18 12 2
FA Cup 14 (0) 2 1 0
League Cup 16 (0) 2 1 0
European/Others 0 (0) 0 0 0

ReginaldD
06-08-2007, 13:00
Now you've signed Beattie can we have Nade on loan please anything would be better than Leon Clarke. It's so depressing when you think you guys have Beattie and what do we have as our equivalent................. the not so might Leon Clarke. He's definetly a good signing the hardest thing for Robson will be keeping them all happy.

Tipex
06-08-2007, 13:32
I would like to see nade and horsefield go to be honest. I would really like to see is a strong leader in midfield aswell as a better sub keeper for kenny.

Robbie Loving
06-08-2007, 13:51
Beattie is a good signing but you now have circa seven recognised strikers, who do you think will leave? Horsefield IMHO is a definate to go and perhaps not too far away from S2, Hulse is too good to let go as is Stead. Sharp is the possible favourite to partner Beattie so it looks like Webber to partner Horsefield through the exit door.

Opinions please.

Webber will not be leaving.

Preacher Man
06-08-2007, 14:50
i still think he'll do the BLADES Well this season. he's not up against World Class Defenders this season, so it should be easy pickings for him

Overall career totals
Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
Total (Club) 326 (77) 91 34 1
League 282 (69) 81 28 1
FA Cup 21 (3) 3 6 0
League Cup 19 (4) 6 0 0
European/Others 4 (1) 1 0 0


Compare he against Jags Who Went

Overall career totals
Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red
Total (Club) 287 (23) 22 14 2
League 257 (23) 18 12 2
FA Cup 14 (0) 2 1 0
League Cup 16 (0) 2 1 0
European/Others 0 (0) 0 0 0

i really dont get why your comparing a defender with a striker in stats?

CorkerSWFC
06-08-2007, 18:49
I don't see why he cant, all you need to say is, has he done well as a defender and has he done well as a striker, it doesn't matter what positions your comparing, as long as you differentiate the different attributes of each position.

Preacher Man
07-08-2007, 08:55
I don't see why he cant, all you need to say is, has he done well as a defender and has he done well as a striker, it doesn't matter what positions your comparing, as long as you differentiate the different attributes of each position.

Im not going to be drawn into some petty argument but all he is comparing is the amount of games each player has played and goals scored??

bladesufc1
07-08-2007, 08:59
i really dont get why your comparing a defender with a striker in stats?

why not.. just comparing what Jags had done in his carer and what James has done in his carer, shows we've got better now than we had, and he's scores MORE goals and over all got MORE experience

so over all GOOD BUSINESS @ the lane :D

CorkerSWFC
07-08-2007, 10:41
It's nice to know that Jagielka put in a good word for us when 'selling' the club to Beattie (according to the Blades website). Jagielka told Beattie all the positive things about the Blades and how moving to us could be a good move for him.

Hopefully, we'll be playing Jaggers' new club in just over a year's time.

Scottf - agreed with Eagles. He would be a good signing and he's young too.

When Chris Eagles was at Wednesday he was an inspiration, i think he's going to play for man utd a lot more this season aswell, hes scored a couple of crackers in pre season, so i doubt Fegie will let him go now hes come on even more.

Preacher Man
07-08-2007, 11:19
why not.. just comparing what Jags had done in his carer and what James has done in his carer, shows we've got better now than we had, and he's scores MORE goals and over all got MORE experience

so over all GOOD BUSINESS @ the lane :D

that is the daftest post i have ever seen!

beattie has played more because hes older, and hes scored more because hes a striker where jags is a defender/midfielder...


i dont want to start sounding like madpaul or nekro but you have overpaid massively for him and he hasnt performed at all for us.
but i hope he does well for you and you get promoted!

bladesufc1
07-08-2007, 11:58
that is the daftest post i have ever seen!

beattie has played more because hes older, and hes scored more because hes a striker where jags is a defender/midfielder...


i dont want to start sounding like madpaul or nekro but you have overpaid massively for him and he hasnt performed at all for us.
but i hope he does well for you and you get promoted!

how do you know we've over paid for him? do you do the budgets!! if he scores 20 goals then to me and the rest of the team, he's earnt his money. dont kock him untill the season is up and the facts and figures show what he can and cant do!!

until then !!

billyhill
07-08-2007, 13:20
then to me and the rest of the team, he's earnt his money.

until then !!

Bloody Hell! We have an SUFC player on the Forum in disguise!

Or are we talking about the team in the Royal Sense?

Preacher Man
07-08-2007, 13:34
how do you know we've over paid for him? do you do the budgets!! if he scores 20 goals then to me and the rest of the team, he's earnt his money. dont kock him untill the season is up and the facts and figures show what he can and cant do!!

until then !!

i can knock his record because the fact is, in 86 games for everton, he scored 15 goals!
thats about 1 goal every 6 games or 6 goals a season.

so his time at everton has been disapointing to say the least. i do have to say he has never complained about being left out and has always worked hard and tried his best, it just wasnt good enough.

if you had asked any blue a month ago if they would let beattie go for £4 million and they would have screamed yes!!

Robbie Loving
07-08-2007, 13:57
i dont want to start sounding like madpaul or nekro but you have overpaid massively for him and he hasnt performed at all for us.
but i hope he does well for you and you get promoted!

In his first full season, was he not your leading scorer fella?

Time will tell if we have overpaid, but if he can re-create his form which got him 5 England caps then £4 million is a bargain.....

scottf
07-08-2007, 13:58
concidering that chopra has jsut gone for 5mil and kenwyn jones is also 5mil, i think 4mil for beattie is a good deal providing he finds the net at least 15 times this year!

PLUMBHEAT
07-08-2007, 14:05
concidering that chopra has jsut gone for 5mil and kenwyn jones is also 5mil, i think 4mil for beattie is a good deal providing he finds the net at least 15 times this year!

He'l be worth every penny if he chases a Colchester defender after 6 mins and nutz him! Just like he did Gallas on his Everton debut :hihi:

Preacher Man
07-08-2007, 14:14
In his first full season, was he not your leading scorer fella?

Time will tell if we have overpaid, but if he can re-create his form which got him 5 England caps then £4 million is a bargain.....

He was but i think he only got 11 goals or something..

but i suppose with nugent going for £8 mil, richardson for £5.5, brown fo £9 million then 4 isnt that much.. still we are glad to get that for him cos i was thinking about 2.5!

Robbie Loving
07-08-2007, 14:40
He was but i think he only got 11 goals or something..

but i suppose with nugent going for £8 mil, richardson for £5.5, brown fo £9 million then 4 isnt that much.. still we are glad to get that for him cos i was thinking about 2.5!

But Everton have never been high scorers really though have they? Andy Johnson was deemed to have had a good season one just gone, and he only got 11 league goals too.

I was also thinking more along the lines of £2million and was surprised at £4 million. But yes when in comparison to some other players £4 million isn't that much, it's just a lot for US.

willman
07-08-2007, 15:17
i've been working today with a lifelong Everton supporter.
he had two comments to make:
1. glad he's gone
2.he was amazed anyone paid £4million to buy him.

PLUMBHEAT
07-08-2007, 16:07
i've been working today with a lifelong Everton supporter.
he had two comments to make:
1. glad he's gone
2.he was amazed anyone paid £4million to buy him.

Anybody know any Saints supporters? Bet they would have took him back if they had the cash!

willman
07-08-2007, 16:12
Anybody know any Saints supporters? Bet they would have took him back if they had the cash!

i'd take the bet off you.

i'm not saying he isn't decent just not a show stopper. no doubt he'll assist in Uniteds route 1 style of play and pop a few goals away,but i'll put bets on he doesn't reach 20 goals this season.

the next thing you know you'll be signing Big Dunc.

PLUMBHEAT
07-08-2007, 16:34
i'd take the bet off you.

i'm not saying he isn't decent just not a show stopper. no doubt he'll assist in Uniteds route 1 style of play and pop a few goals away,but i'll put bets on he doesn't reach 20 goals this season.

the next thing you know you'll be signing Big Dunc.

He'd fit in, ive heard he likes a good drop aswell!

Robbie Loving
07-08-2007, 16:51
He'd fit in, ive heard he likes a good drop aswell!

in ocean terms? :D

PLUMBHEAT
07-08-2007, 17:09
in ocean terms? :D

As in "he like's a good Robson"!:hihi: