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marycrookes
21-12-2004, 17:10
We've done the 60's coffee bars, so what pubs can you remember?I'm mainly thinking of the pubs that had groups on, we'd look down the "Star" each evening, and there would be columns of pubs with groups playing, I can remember the Sicey hotel Shiregreen, the Wharncliffe at Shiregreen,The Blue Bell at Hackenthorpe. the Fleur De Lees at Totley, there was one at Sheffield Lane Top, the Firvale,( this was quite respectable at the time) in fact just before Joe Cocker became famous outside Sheffield, I can remember sitting with him here, and he was really fed up,but just after he hit the big time and the rest is History. There was also the Arbourthorne, and the Woodseats club, are there anymore? I must be having a senior moment because I can't remember anymore so please help me out.

sheffexpat
21-12-2004, 17:36
Can't remember going to many with groups but one really unique pub for that time was The Old Blue Bell on High Street.
What a place ! Even by today's standards ,it was very depraved. It was only small,2 rooms downstairs and 1 [?] upstairs. The downstairs back room was like the Casbah.
A really bizarre mixture of people would all mix in together----very democratic !---Hippies, gangsters,drug addicts ,the gay crowd,a few straight people---- and the Law were always paying a visit.
Black Bombers and dexedrine used to float around like sweets[in fact that was their nick-name] and there was some smoke but I can't recall any heroin or cocaine.
People from other cities would have heard of it and pop in when they were in Sheffield so on top of the local celebrities,you were always meeting other interesring people.
The B.B.C. even made a documentary about it and it was built round a young girl who runs away from home and ends up at the Old Blue Bell.
I've never known a place like it ,before or since. Very little violence, a very '60's atmosphere.
An odd thing was that a completely different crowd used to go in the upstairs room[middle aged couples and so on] and each lot probably thought the other lot were crazy.
When it all came to an end,the regulars seemed to split into two groups.The "quiet" ones started to go in the Mulberry more or less opposite but down a side -street and the "rougher" ones went to the Grapes on Trippet Lane ---and other places of course !

SheffielTony
21-12-2004, 19:54
I went to all the pubs mentioned above, but my favourite was the Fleur De Lees at Totley . . . . had some really good times there. The Blue Bell was anoher I liked, and I know there were plenty more I went to. There was one out Brinsworth way, one at Intake and another somewhere near Monsal Dale (all with groups to listen to), the names escape me now but I bet someone can remind me. The Old Blue Bell I remember too, it was very close to where I worked at one time so made a handy waterig hole

Tony

matsalleh
21-12-2004, 21:24
Yep Fleur de Lys at Totley was good,bit of a trek from Hillsborough though long before we all had cars,decent bus service then.Almost all the pubs along West St used to have Jazz bands, the more we and the band had to drink the better they sounded.Great times.

sweetdexter
22-12-2004, 22:35
I think a lot of emplyees of 'TheTelegraph & Star used to go in 'The Old Blue Ball'.
The Athol was a different kind of pub.Beer from Scotland and the border area.
A snuff taking pianist in a dirty evening suit

bigkev
22-12-2004, 23:18
can anybody remember the claymore pub what use to be across from the mulberry tavern. then there was the blue bell in fitzallan square the orchard what is now the hogshead there was the hole in the wall down in the wicker, the bull and mouth, the marples, the old queens head the oldest pub in sheffield, the globe,the cossack where the limp wrist people went and the barley corn, the saddle on west street, red house was a sixties pub as was the beehive the hallamshire hotel the grapes on trippet lane and then further afield what about the 12 o clock pub just down from the wicker.

Bushbaby
23-12-2004, 08:01
In the late 60s there used to be a lovely pub at Attercliffe opposite Banners. I think it was called the "Dog and Partridge". Classy joint - had a lot of 50s classics on the Juke Box (Johnny Leighton, Frankie Laine, Johnny Ray etc). We used to get the 17 bus from Parson Cross to go the disco there on Thursdays.
Is it still around?

bigkev
23-12-2004, 18:56
Hi bushbaby it is but it is not called the dog & partridge anymore it is now a gentlemans club whats the word a posh place for the table dancers and bar dancers ie metal poles and I bet it didnt cost you anything to go in when it was the dog&partridge now it costs about £20 to go in the drinks are very expensive in there plus the tip for the dancers.

muddycoffee
25-12-2004, 09:01
Originally posted by bigkev
the old queens head the oldest pub in sheffield

Hi Bigkev. The Old queens head is far from the oldest pub in sheffield. The nailmakers arms has had it's licence for over twice as long.

Although It is almost certainly the oldest building in the central sheffield. It spent it's earliest three centuries having other uses including a laundry hall and a banqueting/hunting lodge.

chumpy
26-12-2004, 20:17
In the early 60's I frequented the Travellers at the bottom of the moor, ultra violet lighting in the main room and a mynah bird on the bar, Happy days!!

Lostrider
27-12-2004, 08:09
Originally posted by marycrookes
We've done the 60's coffee bars, so what pubs can you remember?I'm mainly thinking of the pubs that had groups on, we'd look down the "Star" each evening, and there would be columns of pubs with groups playing, I can remember the Sicey hotel Shiregreen, the Wharncliffe at Shiregreen,The Blue Bell at Hackenthorpe. the Fleur De Lees at Totley, there was one at Sheffield Lane Top, the Firvale,( this was quite respectable at the time) in fact just before Joe Cocker became famous outside Sheffield, I can remember sitting with him here, and he was really fed up,but just after he hit the big time and the rest is History. There was also the Arbourthorne, and the Woodseats club, are there anymore? I must be having a senior moment because I can't remember anymore so please help me out.

I lived at Hackenthorpe in the 60's and used to frequent the Blue Bell (or paladium of the North) as it was advertised then. I once got Joe Cockers autograph. It was just after "Marjorine" came out. He wasn't playing there though, he had come to see Frank White and his band. The other Music venues around that area were the Centre Spot at Base Green & The Birley Hotel at Frechville. The Birley is where the Blonde haired guy (cant rememember his name) from the Daisy's got electrocuted on stage if any one remembers that. Some problem with the mike I believe. Anyone remember the Mustard Seed, not the later one opposite the Peace Gardens the old one on three levels. Different music on each level. The downside was the God Squad who were always ready to start up a conversion conversation.

sheffexpat
27-12-2004, 08:29
[Chumpy] Yeah,I forgot about the mynah bird.The Moor then was very busy with traffic and whenever a motorbike revved up or made a noise outside,the mynah bird would give a very good,loud imitation of it.This was usually a terrible shock to anybody on their first of the day,after a heavy night ,as it sounded like the bike was just about to whizz through the pub.
At that time the landlord was called Jim,a real gentleman.
Much later ,he had the red Lion,behind the City Hall and The Hole In THe Wall[?] in the Wicker-Savile Street.

Unregistered
27-12-2004, 10:12
Ecclesfield used to be a nice watering hole with the Greyhound, Ball Inn, Black Bull, Tankard, White Bear, Arundel and Travellers.

Surprised to see that the Tankard is now the Stocks and the Griffin has closed to become some sort of office.

BAZZO
27-12-2004, 10:31
Have vague flashbacks of a room called the Zen Den in The Ship Inn on Shalesmoor.
Think the ceiling was decorated with egg-box cartons which were considered trendy in those days.
Funniest moment when a chap nicknamed Greeneyes came in with his face twitching and his eyes rolling uncontrollably -Wanna buy some great tablets "no side effects" he said.

sheffexpat
27-12-2004, 17:32
Yes,I remember that little back room and that bloke Greeneyes coming in.
As far as I remember,he was a very handsome chap;witty,urbane,charming but at the same time--caring and sensitive...... He was helpful too---he'd give anyone a hand.
The rumour was that he took tablets for recurring nosebleeds but there had been a hitch at the Pharmacy and the Pharmacist, Dr. Murf had prescribed the wrong stuff-----hence the twitching and the long,sleepless nights.
I heard that later in life he devoted himself to those less well- endowed than himself. No surprise there--he always had the aura of a saint

Lickszz
16-01-2005, 09:39
Originally posted by muddycoffee
Hi Bigkev. The Old queens head is far from the oldest pub in sheffield. The nailmakers arms has had it's licence for over twice as long.

This is contrary to the information I have been told. I have been told that the Nailmakers building is older than the Queens Head but the Queens Head was a pub before the Nailmakers. I'm curious now and would really like to establish this fact.

owdlad
16-01-2005, 09:43
Lickszz could it be that the Nailmakers was not in Sheffield until much later, so not able to be called the oldest pub.

muddycoffee
16-01-2005, 10:23
Hi Lickszz and Owdlad,

according to the definitive listing of sheffield public houses by michael liversage.

The old queens head was in existance as a building c1505 as a banqueting and hunting lodge (they think) But it only became a beerhouse (type of early pub with a licence for beer only) in 1841. In 1856 he took out a full license and renamed it as the old queens head. Making it 164 years old

Nailmakers arms was built 1627 as a pub, and had it's licence from the start. 378 years

It is currently in the bounds of sheffield and therefore it qualifies as the oldest pub in sheffield, although it was in the village of blackmoor in derbyshire when it began it's trade.

Within the ancient bounds of sheffield, the Dog and partridge on trippet lane has held it's licence for at least 217 years, and is therefore older than the old queens head.

The hen and chickens on castle green had a conterfeiting crime reported in it's bar in 1837 although there is no info as to how much older that pub is, but older than the old queen again over 168 years, but early records of some of the older pubs may be completely lost so there is no definite answer.

Lickszz
16-01-2005, 21:26
Hello Muddycoffee

I'm in no position to dispute any of that. I was only stating what I was told by someone who I believed to be in the know regarding the Nailmakers.

I will ask my source to check their facts and elaborate on where their data was obtained from.

peterdo
21-07-2005, 06:13
wasn't the Barley Corn noted for it's ladies of the night? :bigsmile:

Albatross
21-07-2005, 07:36
I don't know about the dates but prior to being called "The Old Queens Head" the pub was purported to have been formerly known as "The Hawle in the Poands".
Martin Olive states in his book " Central Sheffield" that about 1840 a man named James Pilley a rivet maker, opened a beer house next door which he called "The Old Queens Head".But at 500yrs it shows in the records as the oldest comercial building in Sheffield. But it does not state wether it was a pub at this time or not.

bigkev
21-07-2005, 20:42
Hi peterdo, you mention that the barly corn was for the ladies of the night it could have been but from as far back as I can remember it was for the chaps who speak in a light blue voice ie the gay boys, I use to work there and as I am straight I have been asked out many a time with the gay lads I use to have long blond hair that was nearly down to my waist so they thought I was game. we did use to get some of the ladies of the nights coming in but it was always a gay bar. we use to have one of them come in every friday night & saturday night and always had his minders with him, this chap always carried his poodle in is arm and he use to wear the most brightly coloured satin shirts and a silk scraf around his neck and he had some really heavy gold chains on him as well, but he was always very polite and he use to always buy me a pint of double diamond. happy times spent in there I can tell you and all the other pubs I use to go too on a saturday lunch time before I went to work as I worked at 17:30 then and shut at 22:30 longer hours werent thought of then the only longer hours we did was after bird when some had gone home.

lazarus
23-07-2005, 19:13
The old Golden Ball on Townhead St was a very good house (I dont mean that plastic palace that replaced it on Campo Lane)
Hays and Sons in Norfolk St was o.k. too, walking in there was like walking back 200 years. Its a pity it has ended up as a vacant property.
Its sad to read about the Stone House closing, its o.k. keeping the facade but the inside of old Pubs and buildings are just as important. Some planners and developers need lining up against a wall and shooting.

bornandbred
27-07-2005, 11:19
The Golden Ball, is that the one that had a steep cobbled lane down the side. My boyfriend and I were both wearing our new platform shoes and were tottering down the lane when we started to gather speed and went hurtling down unable to stop, nearly ended up under a car at the bottom.
I remember a pub near Candy Town, think it was the Hermitage.

muddycoffee
27-07-2005, 11:34
Originally posted by bornandbred
I remember a pub near Candy Town, think it was the Hermitage.
The hermitage is still there but is now called R&Rs. It the first of many pubs on London road. It has a reliant robin suspended from the ceiling nowadays, and has pool tables and nice leather sofas.

lazarus
27-07-2005, 18:26
Originally posted by bornandbred
The Golden Ball, is that the one that had a steep cobbled lane down the side. My boyfriend and I were both wearing our new platform shoes and were tottering down the lane when we started to gather speed and went hurtling down unable to stop, nearly ended up under a car at the bottom.
I remember a pub near Candy Town, think it was the Hermitage.


No that was the plastic palace, the old Golden Ball was where there is now an estate agents or employment agency. It was on the last few yards of Townhead St before it meets the end of Church St. It was a brilliant little pub. The Hermitage was the first Pub in Sheffield to have a juke box that shown an early type of video of the artist singing whatever record you had chosen, the screen was on top of the juke box itself and the records cost a shilling to play thats five pence to-day, then it was a lot of money, any other box you got three plays for a shilling. This was in the early sixties, round-about 1965.

peterdo
28-07-2005, 02:27
Thanks Big Kev , I was talking 1960 pre long hair on blokes.

Do you remember the Three Cranes? I think it was near the police station but not sure :smile:

tinker
28-07-2005, 16:51
does anyone remember/used to go in the olive grove east road ( off east bank road ) alan dale disco nights monday and thursdays in the late 1960s ,i remember it used to get really packed and rowdy but had some good nights in there .

kingfisher
29-07-2005, 12:03
Does anyone remember the Central Labour Club on West St,the entrance was in a little lane across from the top of Fitzwilliam Street,the club itself was upstairs over the top of a car sales room or garage.It was a terrible place for the draymen to deliver to.The Raven was another popular pub I believe there was a gym at the back of there where Johnny Cuthbert trained but am not sure on that

bigkev
29-07-2005, 20:15
hi peterdo, ha yes the three cranes I remember it well it was a stones's house until it went over to hand pulled beer they now have guest beers in there and you said it was near the police station well it is, do you remember the black swan on the corner what is now the corporation well the three cranes pub was down that side road if you walk straight on to the end you will come across the three tuns pub. I think irvin mitchells the solicitors is across the road from the pub. spent some good days in that pub I can tell you there use to be a bloke who went in there that never cut his fingernails you could imagine what they were like all bent and twisted and rather scruffy they was. the other thing I can remember is where the car park is now at the end of the road there use to be a night club there this is across from the co op just down from the bankers draft pub.

Nigel Womersle
02-08-2006, 11:23
We've done the 60's coffee bars, so what pubs can you remember?I'm mainly thinking of the pubs that had groups on, we'd look down the "Star" each evening, and there would be columns of pubs with groups playing, I can remember the Sicey hotel Shiregreen, the Wharncliffe at Shiregreen,The Blue Bell at Hackenthorpe. the Fleur De Lees at Totley, there was one at Sheffield Lane Top, the Firvale,( this was quite respectable at the time) in fact just before Joe Cocker became famous outside Sheffield, I can remember sitting with him here, and he was really fed up,but just after he hit the big time and the rest is History. There was also the Arbourthorne, and the Woodseats club, are there anymore? I must be having a senior moment because I can't remember anymore so please help me out.


Hi. The pub at Sheffield Lane top was and still is The Pheasant. The firvale must have been in Firvale.

desy
02-08-2006, 11:56
In the late 60s there used to be a lovely pub at Attercliffe opposite Banners. I think it was called the "Dog and Partridge". Classy joint - had a lot of 50s classics on the Juke Box (Johnny Leighton, Frankie Laine, Johnny Ray etc). We used to get the 17 bus from Parson Cross to go the disco there on Thursdays.
Is it still around?

In the 60's/70's use to know a dj there Chris watts. anyone know where he has gone?

kensimmo
02-08-2006, 13:20
In the 60's/70's use to know a dj there Chris watts. anyone know where he has gone?

I knew a Chris Watts who DJ'd at the Colley youth club and will be about 53 years old now. He lived on Wordsworth Avenue; Ecclesfield side. Could be one and the same.

dogsneck
02-08-2006, 22:15
The firvale, could that be the Cannon Hall used to have bands and strippers on.

Banksia
03-08-2006, 04:58
As I recall, the Joe Cocker band was then called "Vance Arnold and the Avengers". I never much cared for Joe's music but his drummer was quite a dish so that was enough to bring us into the Arbourthorne Hotel whenever they were playing there.

skippy
04-08-2006, 04:23
There was no shortage of bands in Sheffield during the sixties, Fridays & Saturdays were the best nights for the pub crawls & Sundays for the clubs.
Buses could be got to any part of the City with only a ten minute wait between them, we started at the 5 Arches@ Shirecliffe, Shiregreen Hotel, Sicey Hotel, Wharncliffe@ Firth Park then down to the Cannon Hall @ Firvale.
In the City we went to the Lord Nelson, Minerva then did the usual route of West St & back down Division St & ended up at the City Hall Dance.
In my day 1960, the Barley Corn was well known for it's prostitutes & Poof's,
For some reason we always finished up at a chinese resturaunt in the Wicker where you could get a good feed for the price of a packet of fags, I think they called it the Peacock ? those were the days.

mini b
04-08-2006, 20:06
70s the George on infirmary rd and a bar in Fitzalan square you went down stairs to it ? french

carlie167
13-07-2007, 13:50
I lived at Hackenthorpe in the 60's and used to frequent the Blue Bell (or paladium of the North) as it was advertised then. I once got Joe Cockers autograph. It was just after "Marjorine" came out. He wasn't playing there though, he had come to see Frank White and his band. The other Music venues around that area were the Centre Spot at Base Green & The Birley Hotel at Frechville. The Birley is where the Blonde haired guy (cant rememember his name) from the Daisy's got electrocuted on stage if any one remembers that. Some problem with the mike I believe. Anyone remember the Mustard Seed, not the later one opposite the Peace Gardens the old one on three levels. Different music on each level. The downside was the God Squad who were always ready to start up a conversion conversation.
I can remember Spud from the Daizies being electrocuted at The Birley. It always had good groups on and we used to alternate between there and the Blue Bell Hackenthorpe, but at weekends it was always the Black Swan in town. Happy days eh!!!!!!!!!!!!

arrodbo
13-07-2007, 14:27
I remember going to the lathkill dale Hotel somewhere in the peak district i think when i was 17 in 1962. This was the first time i had seen Joe Cocker live and remember him pouring a full pint of ale over his head to cool down.
also liked going to "CLUB 60 or 69" on Shalesmoor down some steps, a bit like the Liverpool cavern i would imagine.
We always went into a pub nearby i think called the SHIP. Happy days

poppins
13-07-2007, 14:46
Nice old thread brought back up, my Dads favorites were The Devenshire Arms in Southey Green and of course the old Magnet, it wasn't so bad back then, mostly an old peoples pub i think.

I liked the Red Lion, can't rememeber the others, I think we did the rounds before going to the City Hall dance, after so many Barley wines you forget the names.

biker
13-07-2007, 22:25
Can't remember going to many with groups but one really unique pub for that time was The Old Blue Bell on High Street.
What a place ! Even by today's standards ,it was very depraved. It was only small,2 rooms downstairs and 1 [?] upstairs. The downstairs back room was like the Casbah.
A really bizarre mixture of people would all mix in together----very democratic !---Hippies, gangsters,drug addicts ,the gay crowd,a few straight people---- and the Law were always paying a visit.
Black Bombers and dexedrine used to float around like sweets[in fact that was their nick-name] and there was some smoke but I can't recall any heroin or cocaine.
People from other cities would have heard of it and pop in when they were in Sheffield so on top of the local celebrities,you were always meeting other interesring people.
The B.B.C. even made a documentary about it and it was built round a young girl who runs away from home and ends up at the Old Blue Bell.
I've never known a place like it ,before or since. Very little violence, a very '60's atmosphere.
An odd thing was that a completely different crowd used to go in the upstairs room[middle aged couples and so on] and each lot probably thought the other lot were crazy.
When it all came to an end,the regulars seemed to split into two groups.The "quiet" ones started to go in the Mulberry more or less opposite but down a side -street and the "rougher" ones went to the Grapes on Trippet Lane ---and other places of course !
We used to include the Old Blue Bell on our pub crawls in the mid 60,s.I dont remember it as you describe it.We use to start our pub crawl at the Black Swan with a pint of Black Velvet then it was pints of bitter in the Stone House ,Stagecoach,West street Hotel (lots of games on the football table),Forresters,Albert and others who,s names escapes me and then the Old Blue Bell on the way back to the Black Swan (mucky duck) for a Black Velvet.Perhaps thats why I dont remember it.I,m not sure if I remembered how I got home !!!! Why is youth wasted on the young?

Nigel Womersle
13-07-2007, 23:27
Hello Muddycoffee

I'm in no position to dispute any of that. I was only stating what I was told by someone who I believed to be in the know regarding the Nailmakers.

I will ask my source to check their facts and elaborate on where their data was obtained from.


Where is the Nailmakers please? I would love to go.

Nigel Womersle
13-07-2007, 23:39
The Marquis of Granby at Bamford used to be brilliant on Saturday nights in the mid sixties. They had a disco called 'As You Like It'. It was half a crown entrance fee. No problems about who was going to drive in those days as the breath test had not yet been thought of. The Turf Tavern disco at Hoyland was also a great place to be on Saturday night, in the same era.

BorderReiver
14-07-2007, 08:54
wasn't the Barley Corn noted for it's ladies of the night? :bigsmile:

We used to go to the Barley Corn in the 60's to have a laugh at the queers oops! sorry "gays" mincing about, we were all apprentices at English Steel Corporation at the time.
Imagine our reaction when, one night, we saw Rodney another apprentice from ESC mincing it up on the small raised stage in the corner of the main room with a red rose in his teeth - we all "cracked up" :hihi:

There used to be a "gay boy" serving behind the bar, he was known as Shirley and was a real hard case. I was in there once when three young guys were causing a disturbance and he threatened to take them all outside and sort them out - they "bottled" it :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

mikeG
14-07-2007, 10:39
There used to be a Nailmakers not far from the Norton Dance Hall where Joe Cocker used to perform. Youngers I think.

alex3659
14-07-2007, 11:21
Hello Muddycoffee

I'm in no position to dispute any of that. I was only stating what I was told by someone who I believed to be in the know regarding the Nailmakers.

I will ask my source to check their facts and elaborate on where their data was obtained from.

according to the plaque on the wall of the nailmakers, it started out as a nailmakers factory hence the name, the old queens head is supposed to have always been a domestic building. i think the nailmakers came under the norton hammer district which was in sheffield,..just looked it up the sheaf on bramall lane opened in 1816, 34 years before the queens head,also the queens head was not the same building as the banqueting place ,it was next door.

bushbaby 3
20-07-2007, 21:37
i remember going to the arbourthorne on friday nights .i once saw dave dee of dave dee dozy beaky mick and titch fame.perform there after he had spilt from the group.they charged us 50p to get in and we thought we had been robbed as he only sang for about half an hour.we also did the shiregreen run .shiregreen hotel the sicey the pheasant the horseshoe i think that was opposite concord park if my memory recollects.then it was down firth park to the warncliffe hotel .i think if we spent £3 in a night we had spent a fortune.go down town nowadays and a half a coke costs that much

parkwooder
21-07-2007, 09:42
We used to go to the Barley Corn in the 60's to have a laugh at the queers oops! sorry "gays" mincing about, we were all apprentices at English Steel Corporation at the time.
Imagine our reaction when, one night, we saw Rodney another apprentice from ESC mincing it up on the small raised stage in the corner of the main room with a red rose in his teeth - we all "cracked up" :hihi:

There used to be a "gay boy" serving behind the bar, he was known as Shirley and was a real hard case. I was in there once when three young guys were causing a disturbance and he threatened to take them all outside and sort them out - they "bottled" it :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
I used to go in the Barleycorn as well and also the Travellers at the bottom of the Moor, which had a barman (gay). I think they called him Doreen or something similar

noproblem
24-07-2007, 07:39
I went to the Travellers rest with a gay guy i worked with in the sixties, they were 2 people looking after it Shirley he had blonde hair and horned rimmed glasses, his mate was iris a long distance lorry driver who used to shout out at closing time "can i have your glasses lasses and beers queers", the bird had a strange accent talked like its owner. The Barleycorn was a the gay meeting place also. The Miners Arms in Monsaledale or monsal hotel had groups as did the Greystones pub great days

jaffa1
12-10-2011, 21:54
Hi Lickszz and Owdlad,


Within the ancient bounds of sheffield, the Dog and partridge on trippet lane has held it's licence for at least 217 years, and is therefore older than the old queens head.

The hen and chickens on castle green had a conterfeiting crime reported in it's bar in 1837 although there is no info as to how much older that pub is, but older than the old queen again over 168 years, but early records of some of the older pubs may be completely lost so there is no definite answer.

If this was posted in 2005 and you say the Dog & Partridge has had at least 217 years licence then it must have opened in 1788.
Accordind to reference at the library it didn't open until 1797.

rhodesian
13-10-2011, 16:30
hI MARYCROOKES WE MUST BE ABOUT THE SAME AGE, REMEMBER THEM WELL BRINGS BACK GOOD MEMORIES CHEERS DAVE BARRACLOUGH

Jim Hardie
13-10-2011, 21:01
If this was posted in 2005 and you say the Dog & Partridge has had at least 217 years licence then it must have opened in 1788.
Accordind to reference at the library it didn't open until 1797.

No one has mentioned the Bull and Oak in the Wicker (now demolished) as Sheffield's oldest pub. I am sure I once read in the Star that it had been a pub continuously since sometime in the 18th century (about 1760 I think).

hulk hogan
13-10-2011, 22:03
what about the nelson with its dive bar great night out. anyone remember chris who worked in the dive bar. he knew everybodys name and what they drank.

lazarus
14-10-2011, 09:17
This is contrary to the information I have been told. I have been told that the Nailmakers building is older than the Queens Head but the Queens Head was a pub before the Nailmakers. I'm curious now and would really like to establish this fact.

The Old Queens Head has been a pub since 1841, the Old Grindstone at Crookes was a pub before 1838, there are several pubs in Sheffield that have had a licence longer the the Old Queens Head, oldest building yes but not the longest serving pub.
The Nailmakers has held a licence since 1626, thats 215 years before the Old Queens Head.

Jim Hardie
14-10-2011, 13:32
The Old Queens Head has been a pub since 1841, the Old Grindstone at Crookes was a pub before 1838, there are several pubs in Sheffield that have had a licence longer the the Old Queens Head, oldest building yes but not the longest serving pub.
The Nailmakers has held a licence since 1626, thats 215 years before the Old Queens Head.

I can't imagine you would have needed a licence in 1626.

old tup
14-10-2011, 16:37
My mates and I used the Adelphi Hotel across from the Lyceum as our jump off point most nights,then the Brown Bear on to the Red Lion after that the Wharncliffe on West St,then the Saddle finishing at the West St Hotel by which time we were registering full to the neck!.In the 60s it was the custom to drink halves,it may be all in the mind but we seemed to sup more than when we were on pints.I remember losing my car keys one Christmas Eve in the Wharncliffe,I had to smash the quarter light and hot wire my own car,a bit of a choker.We used to visit all the pubs mentioned in all the previous threads because in those days you could see a group every day of the week!.Happy Days gone forever!.:hihi::hihi::hihi:

dsweetman
14-10-2011, 18:11
what about the nelson with its dive bar great night out. anyone remember chris who worked in the dive bar. he knew everybodys name and what they drank.

I remember Chris,he used to have my mate's and my pints poured before we could fight our way to the bar!great guy.