Hiya, does anyone know what the large building site between Stmarys Church and London Street is for? Is it a student village or apartments?

They were supposed to be building a student willage up near Bed, in what used to be a Ford garage. Not sure if that's still going ahead though.

In recent years, there seems to be an influx of new accommodation for the students. It's great - my first house after halls was from a company who rented us a damp, cold, bug infested house for a year, claiming it was one of their best. They saw us coming a mile off...

Still, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, eh?

Yeah its gonna be a student village with gym, laundry, study rooms the lot!!!

I bet the take aways on london road are rubbing there hands together with the thought of thousands of students on there doorstep, pity there is no decent bars on london road tho.

@ miss - you're speaking to a former detainee at Norfolk Park student village! Brilliant if you like not having any services or shops within 5 mintues! Not safe places anyway!

I live down eccy road now, the contrast almost knocked me out first time i experinced it! I live in a privately rented house nr tesco and its just been renovated, literally a new everything, and a really good job and for cheap rent!
And never have i once had the urge to go back up to NP!

Anyway, thanks for the info, that sounds like exactly the place.

@Scottandandy - I bet they are, and some decent food they do too. As for the clubs and bars, i hope this new influx o' students will kick start some regeneration in that area..

Definatly- if there was a time to buy a place on there to open a bar- Now would be the time to do it- if you put a nice bar on there you would clean up!!!!

Originally posted by AndrewC
@ miss - you're speaking to a former detainee at Norfolk Park student village! Brilliant if you like not having any services or shops within 5 mintues! Not safe places anyway!

I live down eccy road now, the contrast almost knocked me out first time i experinced it! I live in a privately rented house nr tesco and its just been renovated, literally a new everything, and a really good job and for cheap rent!
And never have i once had the urge to go back up to NP!..

I do agree with you there. Knew a few people who lived up there, and can't really say it ever took my fancy for a visit!!

What I was trying to say, albeit very badly, was that the quality and choice of student accommodation has increased dramatically over the past few years. I think that they also learnt their lesson with Norfolk Park. This new one is right in the middle of town. (Although, hardly the most desirable area, do I forsee an increase in muggings on unsuspecting freshers?)

Although offering anything that's not short of squalor (see comments earlier on certain student landlords) is great. My house, though for the record, was just off Eccy Rd. Which probably accounts for the fact that they had the cheek to rent it out in that state. Location, location, location...

Originally posted by Scottandandy
Definatly- if there was a time to buy a place on there to open a bar- Now would be the time to do it- if you put a nice bar on there you would clean up!!!!

While you say that there's no decent bars. You should try again Dulo is class, Albion has been redecorated and looks smart, the Pheasent is a nice place, Cremone is a quality pub. I don't know about the railway the crown and R&R though.

The site is so close to SUFC though that some of the local pubs are designed to serve people quick. the cricketers and Sportsman inn don't seem to have much furnature at all!

More students on my doorstep, joy!

Don't think I'll be renewing the tenancy here then.... :)

You wont say that when your local fills up with fit innocent young fresher birds ;)

Originally posted by Miss
They were supposed to be building a student willage up near Bed, in what used to be a Ford garage. Not sure if that's still going ahead though.


It is going ahead and it looks like it's going to be BIG.

I think the traditionally good links (relative to other cities) between locals and students; and the high number of students staying on in Sheffield after graduation; is down to the proportion of the students living amongst locals.

I think the ghettoisation of student accomodation can only be a bad thing for the life of the city.

So, how would you say that this new place is any different from Ranmoor Hall or any of the other big student halls of resdience in town? Surely, they arent "ghettos" for students, so why would this place be one?

I don't think the development on London Road will be a "ghetto" any more than West 1 is a ghetto.
It is in a great location though, near town and with dozens of good take aways and restaurants on your doorstep. Perhaps a few more pubs will open on London Road too, that would be ideal, I wouldn't have to go into town any more.

Originally posted by Mouseman
So, how would you say that this new place is any different from Ranmoor Hall or any of the other big student halls of resdience in town? Surely, they arent "ghettos" for students, so why would this place be one?

Did I say it was different to Ranmoor Hall? did I say I had a different opinion of there?

What it will do is increase the proportion of students not living in the "real city".

London Road is doing really well lately - lots of new restaurants on there - this can only be a good thing for the area.

Originally posted by Yodameister
What it will do is increase the proportion of students not living in the "real city".


I'd be amazed if the students who took up residence there didnt spend their time and money in the "real city" (definition please?) as much as any other student does. Where do you think the students at Ranmoor Hall etc buy their food and go out for the night? Not just their union bar I bet.

Originally posted by Mouseman
London Road is doing really well lately - lots of new restaurants on there - this can only be a good thing for the area.

Yeah, one of the reasons I moved to where I live now is that it's walking distance to (or staggering distance back from) London Road, I love the choice of restaurants there is, you could have a different type of food every night of the week. All that is lacking is a few more bars/pubs and I will be the best place for a night out in Sheffield (I think).

Originally posted by Mouseman
I'd be amazed if the students who took up residence there didnt spend their time and money in the "real city" (definition please?) as much as any other student does. Where do you think the students at Ranmoor Hall etc buy their food and go out for the night? Not just their union bar I bet.



I thought it was obvious from the context that by living in the "Real City", I mean living in residential areas not categorised as student accomodation.

I'm not sure it makes a difference though, does it? How could you say that a student renting a terrace compared to living in a Hall is any better or worse for the City? It's their economic input that is most valuable.

Originally posted by Mouseman
I'm not sure it makes a difference though, does it? How could you say that a student renting a terrace compared to living in a Hall is any better or worse for the City? It's their economic input that is most valuable.

What I suggested was that someone who lives in a "student village" will feel less a part of the city and the non student residents will feel less related to the student population.

AS for "how can I say that one thing or another is better for the city" well, its what you call an opinion!

Originally posted by Yodameister
What I suggested was that someone who lives in a "student village" will feel less a part of the city and the non student residents will feel less related to the student population.


Do you think thats the case with a lot of these inner-city developments, they are little self contained communities seperate from the city around them ?

Originally posted by nick2
Do you think thats the case with a lot of these inner-city developments, they are little self contained communities seperate from the city around them ?

Definitely, I'm not just singling out students. After all its not them that decides what buildings are put up for them to live in.

Just to start a slightly different tack with this student village thing - How much parking has been allowed for?

Traditionally student accommodation comes with little or no parking facilities, as the powers that be think students only have pushbikes or bus passes. How wrong they have been in recent years!

Will the whole area just become a parking nightmare as soon as this massive complex (I've heard rumours of 1000 residents) opens?

Originally posted by Strix
Just to start a slightly different tack with this student village thing - How much parking has been allowed for?


Good point, the student accomodation near me (halfway between the B&Q warehouse and Shoreham Street) has hardly any parking at all resulting in all the students having to park on both sides of the main road outside, with all the associated traffic problems that causes. Obviously it's not the students fault that the designers didn't take into account parking spaces.

At the risk of being a little controversial, I think that the idea of student villages is a great idea. Purely from the point of view that if they're away from the "residential areas" - there's less chance of me being woken up at 3am when they decide to share their singing "talents" with the whole neighbourhood.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not some old fart, I was a student myself a few years ago, and no doubt caused similar problems. But the top and bottom of it, is that students lead a different lifestyle to us, and if their noise can be confined to an area where they'ew just annoying other students. Fab.

I mean, after all, I pay my taxes. ;.P

I think the first one or two years of student life are best spent in a 'village' - with other students, you're all up for a good time, in or out. And its safer for a group of students to be walking home through areas like that rather than one person breaking off to walk through dark streets to their home.

Originally posted by Mouseman
You wont say that when your local fills up with fit innocent young fresher birds ;)

The Cremorne full of innocent young fresher birds - that'll be the day!

Seriously though it won't make much difference to us - we already have problems parking due to the 100's of chinese visiting the chinese supermarket everyday and stealing all the spaces.

London Road isn't actually too bad, just remember to step over the drunks and smack heads outside Lloyds when they fall over at random intervals.... :)

At least there's a lot of entertainment on my doorstep :D

Originally posted by nick2
Good point, the student accomodation near me (halfway between the B&Q warehouse and Shoreham Street) has hardly any parking at all resulting in all the students having to park on both sides of the main road outside, with all the associated traffic problems that causes. Obviously it's not the students fault that the designers didn't take into account parking spaces.

Don't you see that is the whole point?