Obviously you might not be happy to admit it, but I'm interested to know if anyone has been to the Spearmint Rhino lap dancing club? What is it like? Is it as sleazy as people have suggested?

If you haven't been yet - are you planning to? For all we know, the club might be empty every night?! But then I guess they did some research and found a market here?

:?:

I have`nt been to the Rhino myself but I was talking to a couple of blokes the other night that had just come out of it. Apparently £30 to get in and beer /lager £5 a pint one said he had spent £350 the other nearly £500 because he had had a private session with one of the girls. Don`t know how true it all was but if we could get some funding from the council perhaps we could do a bit of research for the Sheffield Forum, I`m quite prepared to give up some of my free time. I`ll need some one to take notes. any volunteers???

Was taken there against my will (yeah, right) by my mates on my stag do this weekend. I'm not normally one prone to hyperbole, but it was the single best hour of my life.

The venue is pretty, well, intimate...but it was about as unsleazy as a lapdancing bar can get. There was a complete lack of dirty mac-wearing weirdos, and the girls were generally fairly demure unless they were indulging patrons in private dances in the attached private rooms.

And the dances....well, i can't say i'm wet behind the ears, but their ability to...erm...do the job was nothing short of spectacular.

Prices: £10 entry, £3.50 for 2 bottles of Stella (!!!) and £20 for a 5 minute private dance.

The lads waxed half a grand in an hour, but with 12 of us, that isn't a bad return on investment.

I've been in the Rhino twice. I know the doorstaff their so I wanda down for a chat. Not a sleazy place at all, quite nice inside I'd say.

I get in for nowt!:lol:

How does one get a job there? I know they had to get the ladies of sheffield interested by giving free dance lessons (in pole dancing)

You wanna be a dancer XADRIAN?:P

Bar staff, well just ring the place and ask to speak to th manager.
Door staff... first you need your Door Supervisors Certificate and Door Badge. Then you need to speak to the head doorman and ask to be put on the waiting list which is a long as my arm (8 times over):?

headlines in last weds star:

- lap-dancing club is 'UNDERPERFORMING'

- city strip club may have to cut prices in a bid to attract more punters

it said one midweek night that there was only one punter in at 9pm and that most of the dancers had gone back to dancing dollar and that it has cut its opening hours back.

they market themselves as 'classy' but doesnt that depend on your perception of taste?

I'd love to dance there.......probably pays more money thana I get working were I am at the mo

To be honest Spearmint Rhino picked the wrong part of town. They'd be better off on West Street/Division Street.

Otherwise, they should be in Leeds!

Originally posted by DaBouncer
To be honest Spearmint Rhino picked the wrong part of town. They'd be better off on West Street/Division Street.

Otherwise, they should be in Leeds!

There's too many pubs in that area already - imagine the drink-related violence! And too many students - the Unis would complain when grades started falling.

Send them to Attercliffe, along with the others!

i read that the rhino charges the dancers £80 each to dance there, (thats pimping for you!) so if midweek theres 8 dancers and only a handful of customers and only a percentage of them buy a dance for £20, dya reckon they earn all that much? they could potentially loose money midweek and make loads at the weekend but then theres all that tanning and waxing to be paid for...

Couldn't stand the place. Tacky decor, and even the girls weren't that good looking.

Was pretty rammed at 10pm on Saturday night - but i'd have to say the girls were hit and miss. All at least moderately attractive, but certainly suffering from having two or three girls who were legit beauties, with a supporting complement of passable girls-next-door.

Can't see it going under, but then again i don't know what competition they have in Sheffield - where else is there in the City of Steel that does decent (ie better-than-Shiregreen-girls) dancing?

I was quite disappointed when SR opened their legal pimping club, but I am so happy to see how bad they are doing. Hopefully they'll pack up and bugger off soon.

Originally posted by steelblade
I was quite disappointed when SR opened their legal pimping club, but I am so happy to see how bad they are doing. Hopefully they'll pack up and bugger off soon.

Didn't call you in for an interview, then? :D

I'd rather have ladies earning a good honest living working in such an establishment rather than working on the streets and vulnerable.

Originally posted by XADRIAN
I'd rather have ladies earning a good honest living working in such an establishment rather than working on the streets and vulnerable.

honest ?

Please define...

without getting into a debate, ladies choose to do the job and are not forced into it due to a drug habit or an abusive partner. They get paid like everyone else legally. ...to me its an honest living...maybe you should go and ask them about it?;)

Only if you come with me

alright fatty

Maybe we could interview a few of the ladies for the forum ..what do you think G Owen?? eh?

Originally posted by XADRIAN
alright fatty

Moi? I'm insulted! I'm actually slightly underweight, young madam!

joking..! sorry to offend old bean....Incidentally ..don't ladies go in free HOORAH if they do!!!

Originally posted by XADRIAN
joking..! sorry to offend old bean....

No offence taken

And I ain't that old either ;)

aaaahhhh anther topic maybe....how old are we all?

I don't want to sound like some raving hairy armpitted femenist :o but, I dislike the fact that a man owns these clubs and is in fact a pimp. He makes money from women selling their bodies. Wether or not they have actual sex is irrelevant.

I hate to think of this man rolling in cash that he has made at the expense of a woman selling herself.

I'm sure many of you will disagree with me.

I'm sure the women are making plenty of cash too - otherwise why would they do it?

I don't believe that many of the women who work in the sex industry think to themselves, oh yeah I know when I'm older I'll be a prostitute/lapdancer/porn star etc...

I believe it is their circumstances that make them choose such a job. Obviously there will be exeptions to this.

It just annoys me that this bloke makes money from women, he is no better than the shifty little pimp standing on shalesmoor, yet he is allowed to go about his pimping business without much objection. Our own council think pimping is a perfectly legit profession.

Originally posted by steelblade
It just annoys me that this bloke makes money from women, he is no better than the shifty little pimp standing on shalesmoor, yet he is allowed to go about his pimping business without much objection. Our own council think pimping is a perfectly legit profession.

I beg to differ... he is very different to a pimp. (Just one reason is that he doesn't earn money from selling the women for sex.)

Basically, dancers pay to work there. See it as them being a shop owner renting a unit. What they make after that, they keep. If they do a good job, they get more money... what's wrong with that?

What made me laugh when I read this was that you were saying "it just annoys me that this bloke makes money from women" ... well, does it annoy you that all the lapdancers in Spearmint Rhinos are making money from men?!? :lol:

Originally posted by Tony Ruscoe
See it as them being a shop owner renting a unit.

Female human being = shop unit

Tony, you disappoint me :cry:

[Edited by Tony Ruscoe - fixed quote formatting]

My son went with his best mate, they though it was quite good .
They each had a private dance, had a drink or two and only spent £80.
I am paying for him and his mates to go on his stag night and he`s taking his dad and I don`t mind that either.
I don`t think there is anything wrong with it or where it is.

be my temporary mum! ;)

Originally posted by Abby
Female human being = shop unit

Tony, you disappoint me :cry:Abby, you disappoint me :P

Let me clarify what I meant...

Female = Shop owner
Spearmint Rhino's = Shop unit

Now... no need to cry about that, was there? ;)

Thanks for the compliment.

My lads and their friends all think it`s cool about the stag do but well why not have fun, in Germany it`s not looked upon as a big issue as it is here.

Originally posted by Tony Ruscoe
Abby, you disappoint me :P

Let me clarify what I meant...

Female = Shop owner
Spearmint Rhino's = Shop unit

Now... no need to cry about that, was there? ;)

Riiight...now I see it

Actually, there is reason to cry. It is still high class prostitution. Would you like one of your female relatives to work there?

Originally posted by Abby
Riiight...now I see it

Actually, there is reason to cry. It is still high class prostitution. Would you like one of your female relatives to work there?

I'd rather my sister get £20 for taking her clothes off in a "public" place than in some guy's flat who she's met down at a club... :lol:

Seriously though... if any of my female friends or relatives wanted to do it, I wouldn't object. (So long as I knew where they were dancing, so I wouldn't see them by accident!)

However, if my girlfriend wanted to do it, I would strongly object - but that's a totally different kettle of fish!

Abby
what is your problem, Girls and women that go out on a night with friends dressed up in a very small skirt high heels and skimpy top and full make up look no diffrent than those at Spearmint Rhinos only diffrence is those at the club get paid.

There are many things in life you might not like, but until you have been don`t knock it.
I would go and believe me it would not offend I really enjoyed the documentary on Sky about the club and apart from my 9 year old daughter we all watched it including my son`s girlfriend.

I think you are frightened to watch in case it`s not as bad as you imagine. Get a life please.

[Edited by Tony Ruscoe - Please try to refrain from making personal attacks (i.e. "Get a life please"). Since Abby's taken it in jest, I'll leave it in though ;)]

Originally posted by rosie
Abby
what is your problem, Girls and women that go out on a night with friends dressed up in a very small skirt high heels and skimpy top and full make up look no diffrent than those at Spearmint Rhinos only diffrence is those at the club get paid.

There are many things in life you might not like, but until you have been don`t knock it.
I would go and believe me it would not offend I really enjoyed the documentary on Sky about the club and apart from my 9 year old daughter we all watched it including my son`s girlfriend.

I think you are frightened to watch in case it`s not as bad as you imagine. Get a life please.

If you define the above as life, forgive me if I seek out the alternative ;)

I am not sure what your alternative would be a black bag perhaps.

I have 4 children all happy healthy never been in bother and have respect for others.

I don`t think in this day and age that sounds too bad and oh I have a granson as well.

All you seem to have is a negative attitude, I know which I prefare

Originally posted by Tony Ruscoe
However, if my girlfriend wanted to do it, I would strongly object - but that's a totally different kettle of fish!

OK to ogle someon else's bird - but not Vice versa eh ;)

Originally posted by rosie
I am not sure what your alternative would be a black bag perhaps.

I have 4 children all happy healthy never been in bother and have respect for others.

I don`t think in this day and age that sounds too bad and oh I have a granson as well.

All you seem to have is a negative attitude, I know which I prefare

Sorry if my moral viewpoint enrages you, rosie

I hope you'll get over it soon

Did anyone see the programme about the bloke who owns SR - BBC2 7.30 pm a few weeks ago. It went on a bit, but one interesting comment was that he wouldn't have a private dance as it would offend his wife. Now there's a thought.

My overall impression of him was as a shifty looking hippocrite. At one stage he was trying to claim that lap dancing didn't conflict with his strong christian beliefs. Personally, if people want to dance / go to strip bars then fine. Go ahead and enjoy. What I do / did find offensive is all the posters that were around town advertising it. There are serious issues about the portrayal of self image and how women are considered in our society.

Send it to seedy Attercliffe where it belongs! Oooops - have I gone on a bit...

Originally posted by Jim
What I do / did find offensive is all the posters that were around town advertising it. There are serious issues about the portrayal of self image and how women are considered in our society.

Agreed. I didn't think much of the Spearmint Rhino adverts outside Firth Park library late last year

Let me get this right Tony, you'd let your sister strip for money but not your girlfriend.

Also, you'd pay money to see women take off their clothes but you'd not go if you thought you might see your sister.

I may have to think about this one as it strikes me as a tad hypocritical.

Abby I am not enraged. You have a morals, well so do I but I believe that going to a club to see what you want is not as bad as you think. It may offend you, it is not for everyone.
I worked with a woman at christmas she was an x lap dancer she was funny intelligent and great to get on with, why are they so bad for doing something they like doing.

My mum was very strict and I wanted my childrens life to be full and have experiences and not have a closed opinion of something they don`t understand.

Women at that club do it because they want to for whatever reasons they have. They are full consenting adults and no one gets hurt.

As for the posters around Sheffield whats wrong with them Smoking posters do my nut and yet no one has a moan about them but smoking does real harm to people and costs the NHS thousands what does a Spearmint Rhino poster do.

Originally posted by rosie
As for the posters around Sheffield whats wrong with them Smoking posters do my nut and yet no one has a moan about them but smoking does real harm to people and costs the NHS thousands

What smoking posters? I thought cigarette adverts on public billboards were banned.

what does a Spearmint Rhino poster do.

It was a large poster outside a public library. Would you care to explain the point of the advert to an inquisitive child?

It also shows how low an opinion Spearmint Rhino have of the residents of that area. Did they display such an advert in one of Sheffield's posher suburbs?

I think its degenerate to women and inherentley sexist. But yes I'm going soon fingers crossed, just for educational purposes :D :lol: :D :lol:

If you'd have seen the looks on the faces of my mates on Saturday night, you'd have a tough time arguing that the place 'degenerates' (sic) women. Every single one of those lads, myself included, would have quite happily chopped off their own leg with a butter knife if those girls had asked them to.

I never understood the concept of female empowerment before - call it an innately sexist point of view, but to me girls have always been at their most attractive when they have been submissive and coy. Such a brazen display of Machiavellian manipulation was a joy to behold. And the tits weren't bad either ;)

Originally posted by Abby


It was a large poster outside a public library. Would you care to explain the point of the advert to an inquisitive child?

It also shows how low an opinion Spearmint Rhino have of the residents of that area. Did they display such an advert in one of Sheffield's posher suburbs?

Where was this poster exactly? Was it on a one of those HUGE advertisment billboards that take 4-6 massive sheets to fill it?

If so, when have you EVER seen one of those in a posh suburb anyway?

Originally posted by DaBouncer
Where was this poster exactly? Was it on a one of those HUGE advertisment billboards that take 4-6 massive sheets to fill it?


Oooh...I did promise not to speak you didn't I...:(

Oh well, the poster was one of those free standing, tall ones the advertisers like to place in the middle of busy pavements, to interrupt the human traffic flow. It's even powered by electricity, so you can see it at night ;)

It was a couple of metres away from the entrance to Firth Park library and just across the road from the park gates.

Originally posted by maxt
Let me get this right Tony, you'd let your sister strip for money but not your girlfriend.

Also, you'd pay money to see women take off their clothes but you'd not go if you thought you might see your sister.

I may have to think about this one as it strikes me as a tad hypocritical.

Let me get this right maxt, I'd sleep with my girlfriend but not my sister.

Also, I'd pay money to see women take off their clothes but I'd not go if I thought I might see my sister as that screams "INCEST!" to me. :o

Do you get my point? Just because I might like to see other women with no clothes on doesn't mean I should like to see my sister with no clothes on. My sister's single and free to do as she likes. However, my girlfriend should respect the fact that her naked body is for my eyes only.

I know I can trust myself if I go to Spearmint Rhinos, but I don't trust all the men in there - so why should I let my girlfriend be subjected to those few that think the girl actually likes them and get carried away in the moment...?

It's a tad hypocritical but I feel that I'm justified.

:D

‘If I were between countries, we’d call it an epidemic. If it were an oil spill, we’d call it a disaster. But it’s happening to women, and it’s just an everyday affair.’
- Michael Kaufman co-founder of the Canadian White Ribbon Campaign

"People say that pornography degrades women. But is it not true that sex degrades women? If it's done properly."
- Lord Morgan

I reckon these strip clubs are far too slanted towards men....I think I should open one for the women and call it the PINK HIPPO!!! ...sounds a bit fruity though doesn't it?

:o

PINK HIPPO ? Sounds too gay, sorry Gay

Everyone has different view points on issues like this and we will never agree.

Personally I'm with Abby.

I wouldn't like to see any of my female friends or relatives work there so in my mind that means I don't agree with it.

If women want to be empowered then they need to get educated and play the mans game, not set things back a 100 years by parading themselves purely as sexual objects that men can buy. i would not call that female empowerment.

has anyone thought for a minute that the women might prefer it???

I'm pretty ambivalent on the issue of women stripping for money. What I can't get my head round is men paying to see it.

Originally posted by XADRIAN
I reckon these strip clubs are far too slanted towards men....I think I should open one for the women and call it the PINK HIPPO!!! ...sounds a bit fruity though doesn't it?

:o
Why not 'Peppermint Hippo'?

its all about supply and demand. If there is a need for something then there is always gonna be someone who will provide the service

Originally posted by XADRIAN
its all about supply and demand. If there is a need for something then there is always gonna be someone who will provide the service


Hmmm...that's exactly what drug dealers say to justify their actions

Originally posted by steelblade
If women want to be empowered then they need to get educated and play the mans game, not set things back a 100 years by parading themselves purely as sexual objects that men can buy. i would not call that female empowerment.

The problem is that 'playing the man's game' leads only to one thing - a woman who is like a man. And i don't mind guys. I am one. But women 'out-guying' a guy is either a rancid, testosterone-fuelled ladette or a ball-breaking ice queen who has sacrificed everything good about the female gender in order to 'match up'.

Why women feel the need to try and 'match up' to men in fields that they simply cannot do without losing every ounce of femininity - while forgetting that they are supremely powerful and insanely more talented than men in virtually every other aspect of life - is beyond me. Empowerment is using your talents to gain the most power, influence and standing you possibly can. For the majority of men, it's 'playing the game' - that is accepted. IMO women need to do the same, and stop trying to judge success by masculine yardsticks.

Originally posted by Abby
Hmmm...that's exactly what drug dealers say to justify their actions

er......you cannot draw comparisons with drug dealers. This profession is LEGAL drug dealing aint

Originally posted by XADRIAN
er......you cannot draw comparisons with drug dealers. This profession is LEGAL drug dealing aint

Young lady, just because something is legal does not make it right

Adultery is legal, but is obviously not morally right

Originally posted by Abby
Adultery is legal, but is obviously not morally right

'obviously'? Way to make a complete value judgement and pass it off as an objective truth, dude. :roll:

Originally posted by Abby
Young lady, just because something is legal does not make it right

Adultery is legal, but is obviously not morally right

righto old bean, point taken but you cannot make comparisons with drugs here.

the female form is a beautiful thing that should be celebrated as should a mans body...what better way to do it than wiggling it :)

Originally posted by FastEddie
'obviously'? Way to make a complete value judgement and pass it off as an objective truth, dude. :roll:

Could I have that in a complete sentence please? :?

Ok i,m going to sound like someone who's been to the moon as this is the first i have heard of this club.
Sounds great to me if you could clarify a couple of questions.
Do these girls supply sex, and where is this club.
Not like i,m planning to go though, well not yet.

they only supply extras if they want to and the club is on brown street

Originally posted by XADRIAN
they only supply extras if they want to and the club is on brown street

Careful what you say... you're making it sound like the club approves them doing it!

Spearmint Rhino does not encourage the girls to "supply extras" and they claim that if they find one of their girls doing it, they will not be allowed to work there again. (They certainly won't let it happen on their premises!)

Originally posted by Tony Ruscoe
Careful what you say... you're making it sound like the club approves them doing it!

Spearmint Rhino does not encourage the girls to "supply extras" and they claim that if they find one of their girls doing it, they will not be allowed to work there again. (They certainly won't let it happen on their premises!)

did not imply that SR "encourages" the ladies to supply extras at the establishment. Let me clarify what I meant.....if a bloke offers a woman for something more then its up to her if she takes it up or not OUTSIDE of the SR ......happy?:?

Yes, that's better :P but I'm sure most blokes would get a slap and get kicked out if they offered the dancer "more"... it would normally the dancer who offers the bloke more, wouldn't it?

I dunno... it's never happened to me! :lol:

Originally posted by Abby
Could I have that in a complete sentence please? :?

Erm, like, totally! Don'tcha, like, dig my totally gnarly structure, dude?

You said adultery was morally wrong like that was an absolute truth and not merely the view of one guy. I was stating that since I for one disagree, it it not an absolute truth.

Clearer? Dude.

Originally posted by Tony Ruscoe
Yes, that's better :P but I'm sure most blokes would get a slap and get kicked out if they offered the dancer "more"

Very true - and the dancer would get a pretty summary dismissal by SR if they found out she was using the club to pimp herself out for something ENTIRELY more illegal than dancing...

Originally posted by FastEddie
Erm, like, totally! Don'tcha, like, dig my totally gnarly structure, dude?

You said adultery was morally wrong like that was an absolute truth and not merely the view of one guy. I was stating that since I for one disagree, it it not an absolute truth.

Clearer? Dude.

Right! Now I understand where you're coming from. Sorry, but I couldn't make out the surfer-type speak ;)

Adultery is condemned by all major religions. Sex-obsessed religious cults and politicians may partake in it, but that does not make it right! Even Tony Blair has been known to condemn it (usually when the opposition get caught with their pants down)

Define adultary Abby!

Originally posted by DaBouncer
Define adultary Abby!

Awww...can't I ignore you for another day ;)

This forum is read by children, so perhaps I should PM you on the subject?

I was just curious on your view.... I know what it means to me. But you stated that Adultary is condemned in every major religion. However there ARE major religions where you can have more than one wife (hence more than one partner).

Where you refering to adultary out of wedlock or in both cases?

Originally posted by DaBouncer
I was just curious on your view.... I know what it means to me. But you stated that Adultary is condemned in every major religion. However there ARE major religions where you can have more than one wife (hence more than one partner).

Where you refering to adultary out of wedlock or in both cases?

You are right in that some religions allow the marrying of more than one wife, but that's polygamy, not adultery - the men have married the women.

Adultery is where one person in a marriage has a sexual relationship with someone they are not married to.

Originally posted by Abby

Adultery is where one person in a marriage has a sexual relationship with someone they are not married to.

I'm inclined to disagree about the marriage bit. Surely, if adultery is morally wrong, then it can be committed by people outside of marriage but who have made a commitment to each other? Or does morality only exist within established religions?

Originally posted by Abby
Adultery is condemned by all major religions. Sex-obsessed religious cults and politicians may partake in it, but that does not make it right! Even Tony Blair has been known to condemn it (usually when the opposition get caught with their pants down)

Okay, so every major religion and Tony Blair are against it....i can't think of a better reason to champion it!

Morality is diametrically opposed to hedonism, and since hedonism is a whole boatload of fun, i'll give morality a miss ;)

Originally posted by maxt
I'm inclined to disagree about the marriage bit. Surely, if adultery is morally wrong, then it can be committed by people outside of marriage but who have made a commitment to each other?


Technically no...if they were not married to start with, they would be committing fornication. Were they to cheat with another unmarried person, that would still be fornication. However, where they to cheat with another married person, then they'd be committing adultery.

Originally posted by maxt
Or does morality only exist within established religions?
Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps I may be confusing morals with values, which are independent of religion, although established religions do have a moral code of what is and isn't permissible.

this marriage thing is again another clear example of that fact we live in a patriarchal society which is why spearmint rhino is wrong and why you lot out there think theres nothing wrong with it because 'thats life' - many people are socially conditioned to think the inequality between the sexes is nature and not nuture.

Scientists believe that one of the reasons that men appear more prone to adultery is that we have been conditioned through evolution. The testes produce a huge amount of sperm in each ejaculation, yet only one needs to be successful for fertilisation. Thus, some hypothesise, we ejaculate that many because originally they would have been in competition with those deposited by other males.

Look to most mammalian species - the males tend to try and impregnate as many females as possible in order to ensure that their genetic material survives to the next generation.

And adultery can occur in any relationship where a commitment to monogamy has been made - end of.

.....................amen

when mentioing marriage i was refering to the widley known fact that many cultures permiss men ato have multiple wives and no the otherway round - which is either not as common or not celebrated as much.

Just look at the Mormons in America - but then, most organised religions are patriarchal. Guess we just have to blame God for that... (tee hee).

...or peoples interpretations of religious transcripts

Waxy you've opened up a can of worms there:o

He could have sent his only DAUGHTER and made things so much easier.

Originally posted by tinajones
when mentioing marriage i was refering to the widley known fact that many cultures permiss men ato have multiple wives and no the otherway round - which is either not as common or not celebrated as much.

You are quite correct, but there are reasons for this. In ancient times, men were more likely to get killed in battle, leaving widows and children. Allowing men to marry more than one wife gave the women a chance to continue a reasonable standard of living and not be forced into destitution upon her husbands death.

Furthermore, where one man marries several women, it will be known who the father and mother of the child is. But if the woman were to be polygamous, how would you know who the father is?

And isn't it a scientific fact that there are more women on earth than men? They live longer too. Who'd take care of them if men were only allowed a single wife?

Originally posted by waxy chuff
He could have sent his only DAUGHTER and made things so much easier.

Now we've entered theology. Can we call it a day? I have a job to do

who knows it might have been, afterall western society depicts jesus as white and we all know from history that that was impossible - he was black (for verification of black see thread entitled 'how black is black?')

Originally posted by tinajones
who knows it might have been, afterall western society depicts jesus as white and we all know from history that that was impossible - he was black (for verification of black see thread entitled 'how black is black?')

No no...he was brown - as are most people from the middle east

And I'm calling it a day there :wave:

I think, even given the lack of feminine hygiene products available in the Sea of Galilee region around 0 AD, the beard is a bit of a giveaway.

And I've never understood - since when did middle eastern equal black? Jesus wasn't a Moor.

ok and i'm a pinky colour. i was ta,lking in crude terms of black and white.

Originally posted by steelblade
I hate to think of this man rolling in cash that he has made at the expense of a woman selling herself.

I'm sure many of you will disagree with me. Me for starters. As a bloke Im ashamed of these places. I think its funny to see how men subdgigate themselves at the feet of these women. They have total control over the male clientelle, and their money.

I think its a place where they exploit men and their weknesses, not the other way round!

They can exploit me with total permission... bring it on! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh come on, neither sex really comes out on top. The girls feel empowered and sexy (and rich), which is all they care about, and the blokes get to see some FINE ass, which is all we care about.

Why dress it up as anything else?

If anyone hears about SR coming up for sale, let me know. I've not been inside, but am still looking for a new venue to host a rock pub!:lol:

Obviously you might not be happy to admit it, but I'm interested to know if anyone has been to the Spearmint Rhino lap dancing club? What is it like? Is it as sleazy as people have suggested?

Ask the Metropolitan police or read the folowing url.

http://www.exile.ru/113/barrev.php - (Contains strong language)

Spearmint Rhino are what they are.

Originally posted by Classic Rock
If anyone hears about SR coming up for sale, let me know. I've not been inside, but am still looking for a new venue to host a rock pub!:lol:

In the USA they would be very reluctant to allow a lap dancing club to be in the city centre. However 'Rock Gardens' do tend to rake in the cash stateside. Kids just want to have fun so to speak.

Lap dancing is not really something that makes a parish a whole lotta cash. In Seattle, San Diego and Las Vegas it might make politicians cash by way of one 'Strippergate' scandal or another but it makes usually costs the city a lot of big bucks.

Originally posted by Guest
I have`nt been to the Rhino myself but I was talking to a couple of blokes the other night that had just come out of it. Apparently £30 to get in and beer /lager £5 a pint one said he had spent £350 the other nearly £500 because he had had a private session with one of the girls. Don`t know how true it all was but if we could get some funding from the council perhaps we could do a bit of research for the Sheffield Forum, I`m quite prepared to give up some of my free time. I`ll need some one to take notes. any volunteers???

I think Sheffield Council had their Spearmint Rhino session 'in secret' so to speak in order to make sure that nobody important turned up with testimony from the Metropolitan Police or who was an expert on the Spearmint Rhino phenomena.

I do feel the recent scandals about SR might have been sensibly predicted by any Municipal Council with two spare brain cells in their legal services department.

'RESOLVED: That the public and press be excluded from the meeting before further discussion takes place on the grounds that, in view of the nature of the business to be transacted if the public and press were present, there would be a disclosure to them of exempt information described in paragraphs 7 and 12 of Schedule 12A to the Local Government Act 1972, as amended by the Local Government (Access to Information) Act 1985 relating to the financial or business affairs of other persons and legal matters and advice, respectively.'

So much for accountable politics. That is the *first* time I've ever encountered a 'secret' Spearmint Rhino Municipal session. The Sheffield politicians clearly thought they were going to get away with it and could do their thing absent public or media oversight. What did they have to hide?

SR have been in court all week because of the shady goings on at london's tottenham court rd venue. i'll have to find a link to the story....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=13424463&method=full&siteid=50143

basically the chief exec of SR UK has sacked the uxbridge SR manager because the manager saw the exec engaging in a sex act inside a booth (where the private dances occur) of the club. the daily star had a fuller version of the story but its not available online.

[Edited by Tony Ruscoe - Posted removed. No spamming please!]

Originally posted by Geoff
Obviously you might not be happy to admit it, but I'm interested to know if anyone has been to the Spearmint Rhino lap dancing club? What is it like? Is it as sleazy as people have suggested?

If you haven't been yet - are you planning to? For all we know, the club might be empty every night?! But then I guess they did some research and found a market here?

:?:



Can't afford it on my income !!!

Just go for a drive round the back of Corporation Street - you see it all for free!

my girly mates and i walked past SR the other night in the late eve and were approaced by a group of men who had just left the club and were very 'fired up'. it was quite scary as their crude gang banging suggestions were said with no humour or laughter and we were all intimidated. i am NEVER walking past there alone again, like i used to before it opened.

Hi Tina,

I'm so sorry this happened to you :( It sounds awful, so intimidating and threatening.

It just proves to me why we shouldn't have lap dancing clubs! They encourage men to see us women as objects just there to satisfy them... Not good.

I hate it when we get hassled in the street at all.

:evil:

y'know the wierdiest thing was in my head i imagined a stereotypical situation happening; young girls in tarty clothes getting hassled by middle aged men.

the reality was me and my mates who are 25-35, in trousers, coats and flat shoes (still looking attractive but not in an 'available' or flirty kind of way) getting surrounded by normal guys 22-30 kind of age and they reallly BELIEVED we would take them up on their offer - they hovvered around us for our reply. normally we would answer in a comedy fashion but we we all went dead silent - even gobby me.

did THEY feel so empowered that some 'out of their reach' type women found them sexy? did they not realise its the dancers job to make the customer feel attractive?

What I can't believe is the amount of replies this thread has had. It must be a record.

And TJ give me a shout if you spot any of those creeps in my place. I'll make sure they get thrown out the fire exits head first.

To be honest Tina, fellow men (not sure to call them that) like that would be that low wherever they go. I have been there in the past but would never ever think to be so downright rude and inconsiderate to a woman even in there or out! I should think that would go for the vast majority of their custom.

It is true that the place is said to 'satisfy a need'. I do not agree. I see it as a different entertainment venue. How some lowlifes take it is up to them.

BUT.... if it could be shown that it would keep that type of behaviour off the streets then they could close the place (no offence to you daBouncer). Unfortunately it won't.

Originally posted by JonHarrison
BUT.... if it could be shown that it would keep that type of behaviour off the streets then they could close the place (no offence to you daBouncer). Unfortunately it won't.
Hey it doesn't offend me. I dont work there! :lol:

Hi,

I haven't got anything philosophical and / or intelligent to say but.....I think that men that go to Spearmint Rhino are sad perverts! (hehehehe).

Why are you willing to spend so much money when you can buy mags for £3/4. Plus, you can ogle any number of slappers in town on a Fri / Sat night..........for FREE!

It doesn't make sense to me (maybe it's cos I'm a girl?!?).

Clair x

Jazz mags vs Spearmint Rhino...discuss!!!


I'm one of the guys (I think) that Spearmint Rhino is aimed at - high income, single, young, male - but it's just a little bit seedy for me. I like ladies, especially when they're naked, but I do feel a bit creepy when it comes strip-clubs.

Maybe I'm just not sophisticated enough.

Originally posted by Clair-bear
Hi,

I haven't got anything philosophical and / or intelligent to say but.....I think that men that go to Spearmint Rhino are sad perverts! (hehehehe).

Why are you willing to spend so much money when you can buy mags for £3/4. Plus, you can ogle any number of slappers in town on a Fri / Sat night..........for FREE!

It doesn't make sense to me (maybe it's cos I'm a girl?!?).

Clair x

because when those blokes are in the 'booths' with wipe clean black leather seating it is quite easy to do more than gyrate and ogle. i have now been and i have seen.

Tina,

That sounds horrible.....suggest you should purchase some Optrex or something and wash your eyeballs!

Clair x:)

God its ****, got a mate who dances there. i love women, but got there so so disappointed. been to a few peppermint hippos in my time n i recommend the one in birmingham centre is pretty cool, its nice inside n the girls are really friendly. had a private dance in the sheffers one n was disappointed. she was old, n like a skeleton-not my bag.

I went a few Months ago on a work Stag do.

I got free tickets to get in as my Hairdresser is also the DJ there. Most of the women were well fit, a couple of them were rough. The girls were friendly enough, but apart from one, once they realised you were not gonna pay for a dance they dropped interest in you like a hot spud.

The one girl who kept chatting was real nice and friendly. I had no dances but still spent a fortune on beer and tips fopr the waiting staff and Pole Dancers.

Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with SR. Women have been selling sex for centuries and probably always will. It's just a fact of life! At least with these sorts of establishments the women can work in safety. And as many have you have pointed out, it's the woman's choice earn their living this way.

I for one would like to see SR have the odd night with male dancers for female clientele. I'd go! I'd enjoy seeing a well muscled, fit, scantily clad gorgeous bloke dancing for my viewing pleasure. Those sorts of male model, six pack types are hard to find and so far out of my league anyway its the only way I'd get to see one up close! ;)

Also, why is it sleazy for a man to ogle women, but generally regarded as a "bit of fun" when a woman does the same to a man? I imagine I'm not the only woman out there who enjoys looking at the male body? Come on girls, back me up!

PS: To anyone from SR reading this, I'm serious about the male dancers!

Originally posted by Jack Yerbody
Jazz mags vs Spearmint Rhino...discuss!!!


I'm one of the guys (I think) that Spearmint Rhino is aimed at - high income, single, young, male - but it's just a little bit seedy for me. I like ladies, especially when they're naked, but I do feel a bit creepy when it comes strip-clubs.

Maybe I'm just not sophisticated enough.


I agree with you here ... personally I think it's all too seedy and sleezy.

Seems a bit sick somewhere ... the whole thing.

just to put things right !!!!!!!

a friend of mine is a dancer and has, maybe still does, work at SR, it definatley ain't sleazy and the girls aren't pimped as some people may think.

the LADY in question runs her own very respectable beauty salon and has a little boy to look after. she goes on holiday to places like italy maritius etc for weeks at a time so i know that they earn good money and get looked after.

drugs are a definate NO NO for punters and staff alike, anyone found carrying or using in sr are thrown off the premesis immediatly and never allowed to return

women are allowed to go into and many make friends with the dancers

What are peoples opinions on the lap dancing clubs we have in Sheffield?

Any females worked there with any comments?

Or, indeed, pictures?

lol

i think there alright. you dont have to go to one if you dont want to so im fine. let the people who want to go go.

:roll: We could always go and investigate one of these clubs all in the name of research :P

Ive been to spearmint, seemed a nice place, no trouble, everyone was behaved..

The woman were friendly and just as nervous about going up on stage as some of the men in the place.

Not a seedy place at all.. even went with a couple of woman.. see its a friendly place for all

Merged similar threads.

i went to peppermint rhino with my husband at the weekend. I have never been anywhere like this before but thought we would have a look while we were in town, i was a little unsure at first but we ended up having a really good night!!

We talked with a couple of the girls about how they started working there and that, the bouncers were friendly too and stopped for a quick chat. Although when one guy tried to take some pics on his mobile, a bouncer came bounding over to warn him. drinks were the same price as at most pubs but i was surprised that women paid an entrance fee, I thought they usually got in for free?!

Some of the girls were pretty average (looks and dancing) but there were a couple who stood out for different reasons. We had 3 private dances (I would never have believed it last week!!) We had a 2nd dance with the 2nd girl as she was really good!! When they say 'private' it is not how i imagined, there may be someone else in there having a dance with another girl, and the entrance is always open. I didn't have problem with this, probably helps keep the girls safe and also stops any 'other services'.

All in all it was a fun experience that I would like to do again, but I will have to get saving up now i think!! LOL

My Girlfriend who I've been seeing over the past few months actually works at Rhinos, and I can assure you that they are not millionaires over night.
Its the people who own this club who are the only winners and im not saying that because i hate what she does for a living.
Each girl has to pay a floor fee of between £20 and £60 depending how early or how late they arrive for work and 40% of all the profit made by her has to go back to the club aswell.
On a really good nite she came out with £520 (Take home) but on average your talking anything from £100 t0 £300 per night (7 hr shift).
Its something that she is not ashamed about and nobody has forced her into it , she is in my mind a very strong person ,and is enjoying life aswell as making a tidy living out of it.
Andy.

i would say £100 for 7 hours work is brilliant! Not that I'd ever contemplate doing what your girlfriend does, no amount of money could make me do that but good on her I suppose.

Originally posted by little jo
women are allowed to go into and many make friends with the dancers

Excellent! I was told women couldnt go in as it was a gentlemans club! Me and a couple of mates have considered goin in a few times so we might pop in for my 21st for a while :wink: should be good! We did consider working there as well...as bar staff but never got round to interviews :(

Heard the SR was closing tho as it didnt get enough custom!

Originally posted by AndyM
My Girlfriend who I've been seeing over the past few months actually works at Rhinos, and I can assure you that they are not millionaires over night.
Its the people who own this club who are the only winners and im not saying that because i hate what she does for a living.
Each girl has to pay a floor fee of between £20 and £60 depending how early or how late they arrive for work and 40% of all the profit made by her has to go back to the club aswell.
On a really good nite she came out with £520 (Take home) but on average your talking anything from £100 t0 £300 per night (7 hr shift).
Its something that she is not ashamed about and nobody has forced her into it , she is in my mind a very strong person ,and is enjoying life aswell as making a tidy living out of it.
Andy.
Fair play to the lass. Abusing the pockets of guys who go to these places... why not.
However if it was me and it was my girlfriend, I'd be very jealous and I dont think the relationship would last too long!

However I wouldn't ever knock a woman for doing that job... it's good money so why not!

Wow...its amazing what you'll do when your bored. I've just read most of this carp, so much of the holier-than-thou attitude its shocking.

-These places are sexist, they make women seem lower then men.
-The in the legal sense adultery can only be committed if your married...etc
-The posters are offensive.
-Why is it not ok to have your girlfriend take her clothes, but ok for your sister.
-The guy who owns it is a pimp??

I didn't think the posters were that offensive and see no reason why they should cause so much offense. I can see a reason for people not liking them, but not to the extent stated. Not as many people (children) would have seen that poster in comparison to the extremely raunchy and sex orientated adverts for perfumes for example.

The owner being a pimp?? Shocking. That is an extremely harsh and offensive word! A pimp is a person who quite often will keep "their" women addicted to heroin, and force them to have sex with people to pay for it. They will make them stand on street corners, and belittle them, and beat them. They will treat a woman like a piece of meat.
A person who owns spearmint rhino, does not force anyone to do anything, if they want to strip it is their choice completely and get paid legalla nd are made safe.

What about the chippendales and other male strippers? Is that degrading men? Me and my friends have actually once been mobbed by a hen party group in Bristol they were trying to tear our clothes off, in particular get our trousers off!! Now if you tell a girl that, she's likely to say "oh weren't you lucky". If I called the police and it went to court you think much would happen? I doubt it. Reverse the scenario now its men mobbing woman. Uh oh social outcry, men are charged with assault.

Have you seen the way woman act at chippendale events, and generally male stripping. They go nuts, its far from the more relaxed attitude at a spearmint rhino.

At the end of the day stripping for money in my opinion isn't too great a job, it won't make you feel very good about yourself. However both men and women do it, and it is far from sexist. In fact when a woman is stripping it is likely she feels more power over her audience who are watching her every move, in comparison to a male stripper when everyone is screaming get it offff! That behaviour would land you thrown out of a female stripping club.

I think the whole sexist issue that is brought up by women on this topic is soo over the top. Go burn your bras!! I'll get the male strippers to burn their thongs!

I have to disagree with the above post.

In my opinion a pimp is a man who makes money from a woman stripping/erotic dancing/selling themselves whatever you want to call it. I stand by my comment that the man is a pimp.

well i'll meet the owner of spearmint rhino, and you can meet the guy who controls the prostitutes around the church area!!!

The same person...yeah right!
An established businessman,compared to an abuser/possible drug dealer.

Ok you can work at spearmint rhino, your wage will be £XX.XX an hour. If you can work please at the following hours,

You will have sex with men for money. You will charge £XX for an hour, of that you give me £XX. If you earn £XX a week, then I may possibily hit you.

Yeah of course I can't see a difference either.

Originally posted by steelblade
I don't want to sound like some raving hairy armpitted femenist :o but, I dislike the fact that a man owns these clubs and is in fact a pimp. He makes money from women selling their bodies. Wether or not they have actual sex is irrelevant.

I hate to think of this man rolling in cash that he has made at the expense of a woman selling herself.

I'm sure many of you will disagree with me.

I totally agree with steelblade. What more can I say?

Originally posted by AndyM
My Girlfriend who I've been seeing over the past few months actually works at Rhinos, and I can assure you that they are not millionaires over night.
Its the people who own this club who are the only winners and im not saying that because i hate what she does for a living.
Each girl has to pay a floor fee of between £20 and £60 depending how early or how late they arrive for work and 40% of all the profit made by her has to go back to the club aswell.
On a really good nite she came out with £520 (Take home) but on average your talking anything from £100 t0 £300 per night (7 hr shift).
Its something that she is not ashamed about and nobody has forced her into it , she is in my mind a very strong person ,and is enjoying life aswell as making a tidy living out of it.
Andy.

Does the Inland Revenue know about this?

ok it says on a web site that there is a student night on tuesdays... but will you get in free or is it just an NUS discount? btw its 10 quid to get in.... so has anyone been?

Try doing a search on here - you should get quite a few threads show up :)

Ive been to the rhino and it made my best friends stag do very memorable.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Been to rhino a few times - not a loser just like the errrrrrr decor! much more classier than omega but Omega that night was awesome!

MOD: Threads merged

Myself & 6 other Bus Drivers went there as one of them was getting married and we wanted to send him of in style.
I have to say that it was ok but we had better fun in the Woodseats Palace a couple of hours before.

I'm a single male student and went to spearmint rhino on a tuesday (student night - free entry and 4 stellas for £5)

It was pretty awful, you see more attractive dancers in a nightclub, who dance (much) better and because they enjoy it (rather than because they are paid for it)

"Wether or not they have actual sex is irrelevant"

Er....it is relevant actually. I've not been *yet*, but isnt it the different really between ogling somebody's tarted-up Lotus and actually nicking it? I don't like these places because blokes are getting fleeced, I can't say i fancy being looked at as a twenty pound note in a drunkenly grinning shell.

Don't like it, don't go. It doesnt degrade women. Go to Mingdom and watch women degrade themselves...for free!!!

Load of feminist cack. Start moaning about summat relevant.

I'm a single male student and went to spearmint rhino on a tuesday (student night - free entry and 4 stellas for £5)

It was pretty awful, you see more attractive dancers in a nightclub, who dance (much) better and because they enjoy it (rather than because they are paid for it)

thats possibly because you went in the week, try weekends much better dancers

hello all

love to see you all being nice about the dancers lol im a dancer at SR and i love my job i dont think it is sleazy at all, who can moan about earning £500 a night for having fun? u should visit on a saturday as thats when the best dancers dance but tbh its hit and miss because we are all self employed they ask us to work 4 days a week mon to sat n only have to work fri or sat thought id let u know xx

hello all

love to see you all being nice about the dancers lol im a dancer at SR and i love my job i dont think it is sleazy at all, who can moan about earning £500 a night for having fun? u should visit on a saturday as thats when the best dancers dance but tbh its hit and miss because we are all self employed they ask us to work 4 days a week mon to sat n only have to work fri or sat thought id let u know xx

Pictures please.

Pictures please.

erm no thnx