Does anybody know any history about neepsend lane s3 area just of rutland road ?

Does anybody know any history about neepsend lane s3 area just of rutland road ?

Way back in the '40's/50's I use to fetch Gas coke (in a barrow with cast iron wheels) from the Gas works there, also I used to go to a barber on Boyland Street to have my haircut.
There was also a plaque on the wall of the Hallamshire Steel Co. indicating the depth of the water there during the Sheffield Flood of 100 or so years ago. I also remember there was a cinema on the corner of Rutland Road.

Way back in the '40's/50's I use to fetch Gas coke (in a barrow with cast iron wheels) from the Gas works there, also I used to go to a barber on Boyland Street to have my haircut.
There was also a plaque on the wall of the Hallamshire Steel Co. indicating the depth of the water there during the Sheffield Flood of 100 or so years ago. I also remember there was a cinema on the corner of Rutland Road.

Frank Fleming the demon barber, sure i can remember he had a stuffed dog in the shop, the plaque depicting the flood depth seems to have gone missing.

It is interesting to look at the old pre flood maps for that area.

The Philadelphia area was quite a large area and the tilt hammer yards are shown with all the housing.

A lot of the area was re developed later.

Thought this might be of interest to you.

Happy Days!

My family in the 1800's used to live in the Neepsend area. They were there at the time of the Sheffield Flood and although there is no documented evidence that any of them died as a result of it there was talk of it. They also put in claims for loss of items at the time too.

I have to hand, a small book for the History of Neepsend, is there anyplace in particular you are interested in.

Well i work on neepsend lane next door to the gardeners rest pub the black building at the end for 9years up untill the flood and there use to be a marker on the wall on the corner building near bus stop showing were the last flood came to and some one told me there use to be houses all a long but now its all factorys and just wanted to know any history just around that area plus has any 1 got any old pics of that area or where i could find them on the net thanx ...

Well i work on neepsend lane next door to the gardeners rest pub the black building at the end for 9years up untill the flood and there use to be a marker on the wall on the corner building near bus stop showing were the last flood came to and some one told me there use to be houses all a long but now its all factorys and just wanted to know any history just around that area plus has any 1 got any old pics of that area or where i could find them on the net thanx ...

Your building used to be part of the Hallamshire Steel and File Co. as did the building with the flood sign on
The yard next door was a scrap yard, opposite your place on what is now Bardwell Road used to stand Cherry Tree Hall in the 1700s, pictures of the area are scarce, the one on picture Sheffield is of the old Coop,
you should find a couple of pictures of the houses and the Neepsend Tavern and Victoria Hotel (used to be Victoria Gardens)on Sheffield Flood sites.

an extract from,HISTORY OF NEEPSEND BY PAUL HODKINSON

. Neepsend Tannery started functioning in 1821 but sustained considerable damage in the Great Flood. It was demolished before 1890 and the site was added to the works of the Hallamshire Steele and File Co., who probably used it as a steel yard.
For 1836 there are two descriptions of the River Don. The first is from
John Holland’s Tour of the Don. (After quitting Owlerton and skirting the Old Park, the Don has now become a fine broad placid river, passes under Hillfoot Bridge, a substantial structure of timber 30 yards long and margined with one of those charming plots of little gardens formerly to be seen everywhere in the suburbs. The river goes of to the left towards Neepsend and after passing Sandbed Tilt it spreads out at a place called the Butts opposite the Clifton Steel Works into a pool of considerable breath. A number of small boats are moored hereabouts for the accommodation of pleasure taking parties, or the convenience of crossing from one side to the other.
This portion of river is much resorted to summer bathers and accidents from drowning repeatedly occur. On the side of the river called Harvest Lane are a number of small gardens mostly belonging to the workers engaged in the various manufactories. From the Butts the river flows along the bottom of what formerly were Coulsons Crofts and where until towards the latter end of the last century the water was crossed by means of stepping stones placed in the bed of the stream, standing about a yard high.)
Around this time the area called the Butts was selected as the scene of adult baptism by a small party of Baptists. On these occasions the boats were filled with spectators, while others watched from the banks. The singing of hymns preaching a sermon and immersing the neophytes in the water in such a spot forming in connection with the scenery at Neepsend a striking spectacle.

There probably isn't much 'history' attached to Neepsend before it was hit by industrialisation.

In the 1850s it boasted a brewery, a tannery and the engine shed belonging to the new railway. It was quite isolated from the other side of the river with the only access being the old wooden bridge at Hillfoot upstream or the ironbridge downstream at Bridgehouses. Wheeled traffic would have had to us harvest lane and Nursery street to get into town. The brewery later became the Cannon brewery owned by William Stones, which survived as a working brewery until quite recently.

At that time there were very few dwelling houses in the area with most of the land occupied by a few large fields and lots of allotments and market gardens. Most of the land between Neepsend and Farfield was later buried under the gas works and downstream the gardens and huge water meadow alongside the river gave way to steel refineries, grinding shops and high density back-to-back housing.

For a while Neepsend had its own railway station although it wasn't really in Neepsend but built at the northern end of the railway workers estate at Parkwood Springs.

The river was finally bridged here when Rutland road was built from Pitsmoor down to the south bank of the river.

There probably isn't much 'history' attached to Neepsend before it was hit by industrialisation.

In the 1850s it boasted a brewery, a tannery and the engine shed belonging to the new railway. It was quite isolated from the other side of the river with the only access being the old wooden bridge at Hillfoot upstream or the ironbridge downstream at Bridgehouses. Wheeled traffic would have had to us harvest lane and Nursery street to get into town. The brewery later became the Cannon brewery owned by William Stones, which survived as a working brewery until quite recently.

At that time there were very few dwelling houses in the area with most of the land occupied by a few large fields and lots of allotments and market gardens. Most of the land between Neepsend and Farfield was later buried under the gas works and downstream the gardens and huge water meadow alongside the river gave way to steel refineries, grinding shops and high density back-to-back housing.

For a while Neepsend had its own railway station although it wasn't really in Neepsend but built at the northern end of the railway workers estate at Parkwood Springs.

The river was finally bridged here when Rutland road was built from Pitsmoor down to the south bank of the river.

Whilst Parkwood Springs had it's fair share of railway workers, it could hardly be described as a railway workers estate, and Parkwood Springs was in Neepsend.

I used to live in Douglas Rd Park Wood Springs as a small child. I remember the flood plaque on the Hallamshire wall. I also recall a little shop I think it was on the corner of Boyland St. The children used to buy sweets there on the way home from school. My father worked at the steel works and lost a leg in an accident there in the1930s I believe. Can Anyone please give me any information about my father. His name was Billy Moore and used to live either in Percy St or Hicks St (not sure). He had a lady friend called Olive and they kept the small shop on Boyland St

I used to live in Douglas Rd Park Wood Springs as a small child. I remember the flood plaque on the Hallamshire wall. I also recall a little shop I think it was on the corner of Boyland St. The children used to buy sweets there on the way home from school. My father worked at the steel works and lost a leg in an accident there in the1930s I believe. Can Anyone please give me any information about my father. His name was Billy Moore and used to live either in Percy St or Hicks St (not sure). He had a lady friend called Olive and they kept the small shop on Boyland St

The only Olive that turns up 1948 Boyland Street is at 58 , Mrs. Olive Dungworth, general dealer and recieving office, Abbey Glen Laundry, corner Boyland Street-Cook Street

Many thanks, that seems to ring a bell. I was only around 8 years of age at the time.

You paint an interesting picture there Graybeard. I assume the engine shed, for the new railway you mention, would be the one on the upside of the line, roughly NW of the old Victoria station. I suppose it's been demolished now. I used to think that Neepsend proper started under the bridge at the bottom of Rutland Road, and Pitsmoor started at Rugby Street, so you had a large portion of 'no man's land' in between. But I was only a kid, so what did I know.
I seem to remember, when we were kids, having 'brick wars' on Parkwood. That is chucking bricks at each other, one side being 'Woodies' and the other being 'Springers'. The 'Springers' being from Neepsend and Parkwood Springs, the 'Woodies' being from anywhere south of Rutland Road, complicated these territorial claims.

Remnants of the Engine shed are seen as the tall stone wall to the left of this pic,

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee164/pick110/100_0022.jpg

Nice shot retep. Interesting stonework, a stringing course and panels at the top. I take it the arch takes the line from Sheffield to Manchester and to the left would be Sheffield. I must admit I can't place any of it really, it's been such a long time. What is the name of the road going thro' the arch?

Nice shot retep. Interesting stonework, a stringing course and panels at the top. I take it the arch takes the line from Sheffield to Manchester and to the left would be Sheffield. I must admit I can't place any of it really, it's been such a long time. What is the name of the road going thro' the arch?

It's Bardwell Road--Douglas Road leading up to the Ski Village and the arch does take the Sheffield Manchester, I remember the Engine shed and the turntable inside.


http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee164/pick110/bardwellrdbridge.jpg

http://mick-armitage.staff.shef.ac.uk/sheffield/flood.html

This site is about the Sheffield Flood and mentions Neepsend quite alot.

Hope it helps!

Interesting photos retep.

You're probably right about Parkwood Springs being 'in' Neepsend. I tend to have the old maps in mind when discussing places in Sheffield. Parkwood Springs probably came into use as a name for the estate as it developed. Before that Neepsend was just a little hamlet on the riverside and the name Parkwood Springs doesn't appear on any of the maps up to and including the first OS map.

It would seem the railway had to provide a bridge at Bardwell road. Even on Fairbank's 1795 map there was a trackway there leading up to the fields alongside the Old Park Wood. That bridge looks just high and wide enough to allow the passage of a cart loaded with hay :)

Texas.....your 'brick wars' would earn you an ASBO these days :D Sadly Neepsend was one of the places I never explored as a kid although I passed it on the tram a few times going out to Hillsborough. It was probably the gas works that put me off.

BTW - did the trams still use Neepsend lane when you were a lad ? I thought I'd travelled all the old tram routes but don't recall that one.

Steps leading up to what was Neepsend Station, top of Farfield Road,

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/sretep/000_0003.jpg

where wood street gone of penistone road..

where wood street gone of penistone road..

Still there but been cut off,
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=53.395314&lon=-1.487409&z=18.3&r=0&src=msl

Hi

Reading this thread with interest.

Does anyone know what the raised rectangular structure is in the centre of this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Fairfield+Rd,+Sheffield,+United+Kingdom&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=8.704169,19.775391&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,53.396351,-1.485056&ll=53.398185,-1.484721&spn=0.004324,0.009656&t=k&z=16) picture.

I went to the training centre at the top of Fairfield Rd for a while and we used to wonder what this was. It has steep sides and a flat top. We climbed it one day and had a walk around on it, completley flat, definatley man made.

Anyone know what this is?

Hi

Reading this thread with interest.

Does anyone know what the raised rectangular structure is in the centre of this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Fairfield+Rd,+Sheffield,+United+Kingdom&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=8.704169,19.775391&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,53.396351,-1.485056&ll=53.398185,-1.484721&spn=0.004324,0.009656&t=k&z=16) picture.

I went to the training centre at the top of Fairfield Rd for a while and we used to wonder what this was. It has steep sides and a flat top. We climbed it one day and had a walk around on it, completley flat, definatley man made.

Anyone know what this is?

I presume you mean the Coal Drops with the high brick frontage,
they used to have a link via a bridge to the railway, wagons of coal were tipped in ready for dispersal by road.

You can see the drops better here,
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=53.397695&lon=-1.484924&z=20&r=0&src=msl

Steps leading up to what was Neepsend Station, top of Farfield Road,

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/sretep/000_0003.jpg

Bet that stonework was black 30 years ago. :)

You can see those steps on the 1905 map

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Taidi/Neepsend.jpg

but I imagine the footbridge has long gone.

No it hasn't...thanks for that Flash Earth web site...new to me.

Bridge is still there,
looking up steps,
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/sretep/000_0006.jpg

looking down from bridge,
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/sretep/100_0026.jpg

looking up towards Parkwood Springs
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/sretep/100_0028.jpg

One thing I would never have associated with the area would've been trees. And the mention of a turntable in the old shed has got me puzzled. My grandfather took me around there way back in the 30's, I was about 4 or 5 years old at the time, and I once had a nose around in later years when I worked on the Railway, never do I remember a table.
I'm not saying in any way there wasn't one, I just cant remember. It was like a straight shed with about four roads.
I recall there was a quarry. You could look down into it from Parkwood, very steep, is that where the skiing centre is? I cant think what they were quarrying. The rock was an browny-orange color. They did blasting with explosives and all. Us pre-ASBO's went down into the quarry a couple of times, looking for sticks of dynamite I suppose.
How can I get a copy of that Fairbanks 1795 map?

I remember getting in the shed when it was closed down some of the kids had set up a tarzan swing in there and i'm sure there was what looked like a turntable.
The trees have grown since the Springs went, there were four quarries, one where the ski slope is, the brickyard one off Rutland a small one disused where the allotments were and a small disused one on top of Parkwood towards where the college was.

Parkwood, very steep, is that where the skiing centre is? I cant think what they were quarrying. The rock was an browny-orange color. They did blasting with explosives and all. Us pre-ASBO's went down into the quarry a couple of times, looking for sticks of dynamite I suppose.


There was a brickworks there at one time

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Taidi/Shed.jpg

That school on Boyland street must have been an aromatic place - what with the brewery and the gas works :D

Interesting photos retep.

BTW - did the trams still use Neepsend lane when you were a lad ? I thought I'd travelled all the old tram routes but don't recall that one.

The trams from town to Wadsley Bridge did go through Neepsend.
They ran from Fitzalan Square down Haymarket, Waingate, Lady's Bridge, Nursery Street, Mobrey Street, Neepsend Lane.

They then re-crossed the Don at Hillfoot Bridge, to join Penistone Road. Then straight through past Owlerton Church and the dog track, The Wednesday ground, passed the end of Claywheel Lane, past the old school, under the railway bridge to a the terminus at the top of the hill somewhere about the start of Halifax Road.

Nursery Street was single track, regulated by very simple traffic lights -from the top of Joiner Street to where the old road widened a little - opposite Hazlewood's flour mill/ Manchester(Harlequin) pub. Remember the front of buildings you see now along Nursery street (on the same side as the church) were all built after 1955 and the fronts are set-back at least 4-5 metres from the original property line.

There was also another single track section along Mobrey Street but Im not exactly sure where it started and ended.


The Wadsley Bridge trams continued to use this route until they were replaced by buses in the mid 1950's. Don't know if buses still run on the Neepsend Lane side of the Don.

Regards

You can just make out a couple of trams near Hillfoot Bridge on this,
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/sretep/1930neepsend.jpg

You can just make out a couple of trams near Hillfoot Bridge on this,
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/sretep/1930neepsend.jpg


That's a really interesting photo. It's a pitty that's so grainy but is probably at the limit of enlargement. Despite this, there is still a lot of detail there.

I'm amazed there were so many houses so close to the gas works: it must have been a nightmare living there during the war.

I know the works were a prime target and some bombs (quite a few incendiaries) did fall there during the Blitz but they managed to put the fires out.

Slightly off the Neepsend Lane topic but I have another interest in that particular area of the city. My Mother was born on Harvest Lane (May 1907).

Regards

Thanks Falls, - going out to Hillsborough from my end of town I'd get a Firth Park/Lane Top tram to High street then a Middlewood tram from Angel street.

Can still catch a tram from Middlewood into town...but I much preferred the old ones :)

I do remember some of the trams parked up on Parkside road for the Wednesday home games went directly to Attercliffe, I suppose they must have used the Neepsend lane - Nursery street - Wicker route.

You can just make out a couple of trams near Hillfoot Bridge on this,
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/sretep/1930neepsend.jpg

You've got better eyesight than me mate :D

You've got better eyesight than me mate :D

Bottom right hand corner is Hillfoot Bridge the two vehicles on the road are trams, should have gone to specsavers :hihi:

Theyre not easy to make out are they, if you look for St Michael and all Angels on picture Sheffield you'll see the tram tracks that led along Neepsend Lane.

Thanks Falls, -

I do remember some of the trams parked up on Parkside road for the Wednesday home games went directly to Attercliffe, I suppose they must have used the Neepsend lane - Nursery street - Wicker route.

Hello,

As far as I remember - and I may be wrong -the bulk of the specials for games at Hillsborough started in Bridge Street and went along West Bar, Gibraltar Street, Shalesmoor and straight on Penistone Road.

I believe match-days at Hillsborough and regulars running off-service were the only time that trams ran on the section of Penistone Road between Hillfoot Bridge and the junction with Shalesmoor/Infirmary Road.

If I went Hillsborough with my Dad, the trams always went the Penistone Road way. Its possible that some may have gone the Infirmary Road way and then come around on the Parkside Road loop but I never rode one.

If we were going the direct route we had to get off at the Penistone Road ( bottom) entrance to Hillsborough Park. Then the tram either went straight on Penistone Road and "turned" to go back to town for more passengers or when we we were closer to kick-off time, the tram was drive up the Parkside Road loop and parked.

The Parkside Road loop was double track and if it was a big game, such as a local derby or an FA Cup semi, then both tracks would be full of trams from Penistone Road almost to Middlewood Road.

I think they used to leave gap in the trams where Catchbar Lane(?) joind Parkside Road so that regular traffice could cross over. Of course there weren't may cars then but everybody knew how busy it could be in the area and most motorists kept well clear if a game was on.

If you were going to Bramall Lane, the specials started on Blonk Street: then ran along Sheaf Street, past the Midland Station, onto Leadmill Road and then Shoreham Street. Some trams were parked on the spur track that ran up Cheery Street but the rest were left - in single file - on Shoreham Street

There seemed to be fewer special trams used for games at Bramall Lane, possibly because it was a much shorter run than going out to Hillsborough. Also, with The Lane being close to town, people came from a lot of different directions, not everybody need to come into town and many people used to walk anyway.


I have no idea what bus services are provided now.


Regards

One thing I would never have associated with the area would've been trees. ( And the mention of a turntable in the old shed has got me puzzled. My grandfather took me around there way back in the 30's, I was about 4 or 5 years old at the time, and I once had a nose around in later years when I worked on the Railway, never do I remember a table.)
I'm not saying in any way there wasn't one, I just cant remember. It was like a straight shed with about four roads.
I recall there was a quarry. You could look down into it from Parkwood, very steep, is that where the skiing centre is? I cant think what they were quarrying. The rock was an browny-orange color. They did blasting with explosives and all. Us pre-ASBO's went down into the quarry a couple of times, looking for sticks of dynamite I suppose.
How can I get a copy of that Fairbanks 1795 map?

Perhaps it was the remnants of this i saw,

Neepsend engine shed,
Over the years the size of the turntable was increased from the original at around 32 feet diameter, to 43ft 6ins in the late 1870's, ending with one of 59ft 10ins diameter.

source,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neepsend_engine_shed

My Dad, Peter Bartholomew grew up on Hicks Rd in the late 30's/40's/

In the last few months at school, Burngreave that is, an activity was introduced into the curriculum called Social Studies. This entailed trips to various steel firms, the GPO, sewage works, etc; and on one occasion we visited Dixons, a silver smelters at Hillfoot bridge.
Anybody remember them? I have a distinct memory of watching silver being poured into ingots and seeing a replica of the Blue Riband Trophy in a glass case. Apparently it had been made at Dixons, the original, I presume, was in some shipping line's vault.

Does anybody remember the beer off or off licence i know my nan nan used to call it a beeroff. it sold sweets, drinks a bit of everything i think. it was run by margaret fearnehough and she supplied all the rationing?

I seem to remember, when we were kids, having 'brick wars' on Parkwood. That is chucking bricks at each other, one side being 'Woodies' and the other being 'Springers'. The 'Springers' being from Neepsend and Parkwood Springs, the 'Woodies' being from anywhere south of Rutland Road, complicated these territorial claims.

I've only just read this but it brought a smile to my face, I was hit by "friendly fire" in one of these battles. I was in unarmed combat with a Parkie lad and one of my mates decided I might need some help, my head was split by an incoming half brick, blood everywhere !
After coming back to my senses my mates and I set off down Douglas Rd heading for the Infirmary. Halfway down was a young lady wiith a baby in her arms, on seeing all the blood she ushered me into her home and bathed the wound with warm water and TCP, it must have been about an hour until it stopped bleeding.
That was 50 yrs ago and I remain very grateful to that lady, I can't imagine that happening nowadays somehow ! :):)