According to the 6pm BBC radio news. Will post more as I find it, but just to let you all know - remember where you read it first :o :hihi:

Doh! You beat me to it by 2 minutes!

Delete my other post .

Nomme

Good.
Like a lot of Control Freaks and Prodnoses,he has been hung by hisown petard.

I think you'll find he resigned about some visas - not because he was a control freak / prodnose (?!) ... :suspect:

He resigned because the right wing press hounded him. Another scalp for Fleet Street.

...or was it because he wrongly assumed no-one would read/buy his book... :heyhey:

Originally posted by Geoff
I think you'll find he resigned about some visas - not because he was a control freak / prodnose (?!) ... :suspect:

I think its more to do with slagging off his colleagues in his biography.

So ... who's favourite to replace him?

Nomme

Perhaps this would be a good time for the goverment to quietly drop the ID card scheme.

Otherwise it'll cost billions of taxpayers pounds, and not work.

K.

Never heard of Dave Blunkett ! i googled him a bit, is he blind ? it didn't say exactly just said about reading brail ect/

Originally posted by poppins
Never heard of Dave Blunkett ! i googled him a bit, is he blind ? it didn't say exactly just said about reading brail ect/

thats hilarious!

you haven't heard of the man in charge of fighting terrorism in UK, the USA's biggest ally in the war on terrorism.

Just shows the real nature of the 'special relationship' between the US and UK.

Originally posted by sham71
thats hilarious!

you haven't heard of the man in charge of fighting terrorism in UK, the USA's biggest ally in the war on terrorism.

Just shows the real nature of the 'special relationship' between the US and UK.

Nope, never heard of him !

The BBC website is giving details....

Clickety Click (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4099581.stm)

I'm soooo glad!!!

Goeff---well yes there is the visa problem [and the other things thst weren't going to be looked into].----and also the fact that he slagged off various colleagues.
But---that's what I'm getting at ,about him being a control freak....etc......It's that sort of personality that think they can trample over people's feelings,with no come---back.
If you expect super--standards for the public,then you have to make sure that your standards are super-high too.
I think he had the right aims in mind in trying to make society safer but his problem was the usual Socialist--Fabian one of making too many rules for too many people instead of REALLY targetting those who are ruining society in different ways.

Yes i quess it's all over the place, when you want to oust someone and all else fails to get dirt on them, the last resort is always "THe Nanny Visa " thing, works well too it seems.

Right or wrong?

Right but a shame.

That damn book ah?

He might not carry the same title but I would hedge my bets that he will be kept busy.

Not the end me thinks.

Originally posted by max
He resigned because the right wing press hounded him. Another scalp for Fleet Street.
I agree, by the way there is another thread about this Blunkett muddle!

Not the scandal that made him resign, it was said about the people who would normally have supported him.

Sorry folks - should have done a search first eh! This was already an hour old on the 'General Area'. Thought I'd got a scoop then.....!
Just goes to show - read the instructions.

Originally posted by nuf_said
Sorry folks - should have done a search first eh! This was already an hour old on the 'General Area'. Thought I'd got a scoop then.....!
Just goes to show - read the instructions.

Not a problem, merged the threads.

This may surprise some of you who know my oppinions on Mr B (suffice to say I'm not his biggest fan!) I'm actually quite sad to see him go this way - I would have preferred to see him voted out by popular vote rather than trial by media...

good ridance,integrity intact my arxe he was sleeping with a married woman, had fathered a bastxxd child and he has the nerve to mention integrity

I wrote to David Blunkett about a small problem on my road with regard to land being fenced off.This was about four weeks ago ,whilst all these problems were happening.He has written to me three times and hopefully has resolved the problem with regard to the fence.I feel honoured and amazed that along with his job and his personal problems he was able to sort out my small [to him] problem.
I believe that the country has lost a talented and radical politician who will take some following!

not bothered either way, least its differant from the usuall beckham crap.

Poor Blunkett..Sheffield's finest..was he in the wrong? Did Tony get fed up escorting him to lairy Sheffield nightclubs?
Could Bettsie fill Dave's size 10's at the Home Office?

Originally posted by brooksy
not bothered either way, least its differant from the usuall beckham crap.
Hmmmmmm

Yes feederfil, he worked hard the old boy.

There is far worse than him!

Originally posted by feederfil
I believe that the country has lost a talented and radical politician who will take some following!

Most emphatically agree. Here was a Sheffielder who managed to get to one of the highest posts in British politics. The guy has had everything stacked against him for most of his life, blind from birth, poverty and a father who was killed in an industrial accident. He didn't give up though. He was the youngest ever councillor at the age of 22. God, what drive!!

I think it's a shame that many of his fellow Sheffielders are far too quick to sink the knife in. It's not the ides of March is it?

my money is on that he had a "lot" of help!

PT

I for one am saddened at his resignation / his hounding by the media and the lack of support from the government.

This man (even though I don't agree with all his ideas - ID Card for example) was an excellent politician who put his ideas on the line and made them work.

It's unfortunate what's happened to him and I think that come the next election my vote will definately go elsewhere from Labour. :rant:

Threads merged again.

I'm sorry Blunkett is going; many in the Brightside area are full of praise for the work he has done.

I'd be more supportive if he wasn't so hellbent on forcing ID cards on us all.

I think the fast tracking of the Visa application or the train tickets are an insignificant issue blown way out of proportion; I doubt they were the real reason Blunkett resigned. He's had to face far tougher setbacks than this!

What is interesting to see how peoples' opinions - especially in the media - are polarised on this issue.

Everyone is either anti-Blunkett for fast-tracking the Visa (big deal :roll: ) or anti-Quinn for leading him astray.

What is surprising is that nobody has been critical of Quinn or Blunkett for having an affair shortly after Quinn married; I thought that would have been a much bigger story than pulling a small favour in for someone.

Loads of peple are getting really sentimental about Blunkett.
When he was leader of Sheffield Council ,he was described as "radical" and "left of centre".The Red Flag literally flew from the Town Hall in Sheffield.
Now this is a mature , experienced man---not a teenager passing through a "bolshie"stage.
Yet, lo and behold, a short time later,he's done a somersault and is part of the Blair band wagon----oh,who just happen to have siezed power !
Does this sound like a sincere politician with committed views [a Tony Benn e.g.] or an out and out opportunist ?
I don't agree with what most of Tony Benn or Dennis Skinner say but you have to admire THEIR integrity.

Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
I for one am saddened at his resignation / his hounding by the media and the lack of support from the government.


He did initially get an amazing amount of support from his colleagues in government, but then he managed to put his foot in it (as usual) by slagging them off in his book.

I don't see why they should have been expected to support him anyway, considering he was having an adulterous affair with a woman who had only recently got married. Wasn't this government elected partly because of its big anti-sleaze campaign before the 1997 election? Or was it only an anti-(tory)-sleaze campaign?

The whole visa thing makes me just laugh to be honest... I mean how many people have used their connections through family, friends, etc... to try and get something sorted out quickly or with minimal expense...

If getting a visa sorted a couple of days early is such a heinous crime I'm amazed, given what some of our esteemed celebs and politicians seem to get up to...

As for losing control of his mouth.. well... been there done that... I couldn't say one or the other if he was any good or bad at the job but he does appear to have been pretty driven... and it's quite a compliment to him that people are treating him like a person and not some disabled "poor person"... That really does take some doing...

Politicians eh? can't live with em, can't live without them... wonder what we'd say if we saw it from their perspective... :|

I don't think it was such a bad thing if he sent emails about the visa... it hasn't been proved that he did anything to unfairly speed it up. How many forum users send emails not connected with their work from their workplace?

As much as I dislike the man, I do like a lot of the things he has brought in while Home Secretary, like anti-social behaviour orders etc.

I'm glad to see him go partly because he was having an affair with a married woman after preaching in Methodist churches that adultery is wrong, and partly because of his record when he was in charge of Social Services in Sheffield before he took charge of the Council.

How can Tony Blair praise Blunkett and say his intregrity is intact when he was commiting adultery with a newly wed wife and is trying to split his "lover" from her husband even now?

Originally posted by max
He resigned because the right wing press hounded him. Another scalp for Fleet Street.

Take at look at your Daily Mirror. They've been digging into him more than the right wing press. Why should the right wing press attack him? His policies are more in synch with the Tories than they are!!!

The man abused his position, but unlike the other mugs in office he had the integrity to resign. I commend him on that decision.

Now, if Messrs Blair and co are watching...........,

Originally posted by Abdul

What is surprising is that nobody has been critical of Quinn or Blunkett for having an affair shortly after Quinn married; I thought that would have been a much bigger story than pulling a small favour in for someone.


I'm sure I did, but it was in a different thread. And you're right of course, - Mrs Quinn, six months married and undergoing HIV treatment so she could have children with her new husband, embarks on an affair with another man!

It just doesn't wash with me that the moral turpitude of a man in his position in public life is of no consequence. It is to me because it raises the question of his judgement. If he feels able to take such silly risks with his personal reputation after achieving so much in spite of his disability, then I'm not inclined to trust him as a politician.

Probably an 'old fashioned' view, but I feel his affair with Mrs. Quinn is far more reprehensible that the trivial manipulation of the power of his position he is accused of.

Originally posted by Ousetunes
Take at look at your Daily Mirror. They've been digging into him more than the right wing press. Why should the right wing press attack him? His policies are more in synch with the Tories than they are!!!

The man abused his position, but unlike the other mugs in office he had the integrity to resign. I commend him on that decision.

Now, if Messrs Blair and co are watching...........,

Indeed, if Blunkett has the integrity and discretion to resign when the situation merits it, what does that say about Hoon, Blair and Straw?

David Blunkett has committed minor indiscretions - sleaze allegations and preferential treatment.

Blair, Straw and Hoon squandered British and Iraqi lives, plus billions of pounds and untold international goodwill on a needless war, justified by lies, and prosecuted without any thought to the aftermath which is bloodier than the war itself.

Blunkett puts them all to shame.

Originally posted by poppins
Never heard of Dave Blunkett ! i googled him a bit, is he blind ? it didn't say exactly just said about reading brail ect/

I hope you weren't being serious :suspect:

Originally posted by Skatiechik
I hope you weren't being serious :suspect:
I don't think David Blunkett is very big in Connecticut.

M. Jodi Rell is hardly a household name here, after all.

Personally, I'm sorry to see him go over something so stupid. What really winds me up is that when Blunkett decided that he wanted access to his child this Quinn woman spat the dummy out and ensured that he paid with his job for wanting to see his child. I don't care what he did with regards to visas (probably happens all the time anyway) and I certainly don't hold it against him for having a relationship with a married woman, afterall it takes two tango. The only thing he's guilty of in my eyes is wanting to be a decent dad and he's paid dearly for it.

Originally posted by Greybeard I'm sure I did, but it was in a different thread. And you're right of course, - Mrs Quinn, six months married and undergoing HIV treatment so she could have children with her new husband, embarks on an affair with another man!


:o :o :o

"HIV treatment"!?

Did you really mean to say IVF?

Nomme

I can't say I'm dissappointed that he's jacked, as for various reasons I've never been a big fan of him or his policies to be honest, as without going into one of my long angst filled rants I partially blame him for me not being able to get a job because he didn't do anything to strengthen anti-discrimination law when he was employment secretary.

I guess he'll now be singing "Always look on the Brightside of life" ;)

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
I don't think David Blunkett is very big in Connecticut.

M. Jodi Rell is hardly a household name here, after all.

Ah I see, I never look at the location just assume everyone is from Sheffield.

This may suprise some of you but I am also sorry to see him go,but he went because of the e mail which HIS office sent out.
You woul'd have thought that corespondense of this nature woul'd have been personally checked by him especially with regard to the nature of the e mail.
Anyway I think he did the honourable thing and resigned which is more than can be said of other politicians,I actually feel sorry for the man.
But on a political level I also am sad he is no longer the home secretary as I was looking forward to a interesting election campaign in brightside. It wont be the same now he is no longer the home secretary,DAM.

Well some his policies were far right so I'm not surprised you are sad to see him go.

LOL Carcrash,yep I was even thinking of sending him an membership form for our lot.
I dont doubt he will be back before too long,loathe him or love him the man is clever.
Dont think charles clark will be able to rouse so many people like old dave did.;)

Originally posted by nomme
:o :o :o

"HIV treatment"!?

Did you really mean to say IVF?

Nomme

:D I suppose I did. But then with one child already and DB claiming to be the father of the child she's carrying they obviously were not following government guidlines on safe sex !! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by carcrash
Well some his policies were far right so I'm not surprised you are sad to see him go.

His policy of banging foreign nationals up sine die without trial has today been roundly condemned by the Law Lords so that's another blow for him. And I wouldn't be surprised if the religious incitement clause now gets quietly dropped.

Clarke has already announced the ID card scheme will go ahead as planned.

Originally posted by Abdul
I'm sorry Blunkett is going; many in the Brightside area are full of praise for the work he has done.

I'd be more supportive if he wasn't so hellbent on forcing ID cards on us all.



Abdul what do you reckon to his stance on detaining terrorists in prison without any shred of evidence that they are terrorists?

Taking people just because they have a beard or are muslim and not letting them talk to family, friends, anyone and keeping them locked up till they can find something to charge them with.

I say thank f*** that he's gone, maybe the next Home Secretary can get things right and find a fairer way to deal with these people.

As for the law lords ruling they dont live in the real world,if those who are detained wont leave the country on their own accord and no one wants to take them then what are we supposed to do?
Look these people have been identified as a threat to national security and as such Blunkett had no choice other than to keep these fanatics in prison.
My god never thought I woul'd be defending Blunkett but he was right.

Do you think Blunket was given a flat fee or a percentage for his memoirs?

I reckon it was a standard deal. Large advance with a sliding percentage scale depending on sales.

Well I hope he got plenty of dosh as he has made a few enemys,but like I said he did his best but like todays law ruling he was hamperd by the judiciary at every turn.
Even so I wish him well in his personal life but not in his political one.

Originally posted by sheffexpat
Good.
Like a lot of Control Freaks and Prodnoses,he has been hung by hisown petard.

May the petard-hoisting run rampant through this nasty, vindictive, proscriptive, hectoring and bullying administration. It's always the press wot won it really. I suspect that we're about to witness the ongoing tabloid hounding of New Labour and its eventual routing. Peckerdillos run counter to sanctimomiousness, which does rather create a problem. Proves that governments don't learn the lessons of history for 'tis precisely how the Tories fell from absolute power. Hurrah! It's going to be a more entertaining Christmas than I thought...

Maybe now dear Dave can get round to doing more of what he does best - representing his constituency.

The judiciary are putting an end to internment and trying to keep the right to trial by jury.

Originally posted by Lestat
Abdul what do you reckon to his stance on detaining terrorists in prison without any shred of evidence that they are terrorists?

Taking people just because they have a beard or are muslim and not letting them talk to family, friends, anyone and keeping them locked up till they can find something to charge them with.

I say thank f*** that he's gone, maybe the next Home Secretary can get things right and find a fairer way to deal with these people.

Lestat, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. When I previously wrote:

I'm sorry Blunkett is going; many in the Brightside area are full of praise for the work he has done.

I was talking specifically about the positive changes in our local area, thanks to Blunkett (Brightside MP) and local labour councillors.

I'm sure you'll agree that Firth Park and Fir Vale have gone through some major improvements lately (the new library and community centre in Firth Park, improvements to Fir Vale school).

I'm not particularly upset he's resigned as Home Secretary but that wasn't the focus of my post.

I wouldn't want him to resign as Brightside MP though. However, now he's no longer Home Secretary, perhaps he'll be able to give more time to local issues.

Does that make more sense :)

Originally posted by Abdul
I'd be more supportive if he wasn't so hellbent on forcing ID cards on us all.

I was hoping this would be the death knell for his plan to force us all to carry biometric ID cards carrying all possible information about us - and pay for the privilege. It seems not.
:mad:

So was I. I'm so looking forward to the day they come in, it will be like the poll tax all over again.

Why are people getting so wound up oved i d cards ,we have nothing to fear from this as long as you have nothing to hide.
Of course if you are an illegal immigrant or someone wanted for a crime somewhere then you might indeed have something to worry about.France has I D cards for a long time and they dont seem to have a problem with them.

Originally posted by royjames
Why are people getting so wound up oved i d cards ,we have nothing to fear from this as long as you have nothing to hide.
Of course if you are an illegal immigrant or someone wanted for a crime somewhere then you might indeed have something to worry about.France has I D cards for a long time and they dont seem to have a problem with them.

You really think that's what they're for?

I suspect they'll be used so the Government can keep track on their political enemies much easier.

I'm surprised you're in favour of them, seeing as you're likely to be their first target :|

Originally posted by Dick Dastardly
Personally, I'm sorry to see him go over something so stupid. What really winds me up is that when Blunkett decided that he wanted access to his child this Quinn woman spat the dummy out and ensured that he paid with his job for wanting to see his child.
Blunkett’s behaviour and callous treatment of Kimberly Quinn during her period of illness has been disgraceful.

You have a fair point about us being first on the list,but then we are being targeted anyway so what difference will it make?
As most of us already carry some form of I D then what difference will one more make.

i think hes an all right guy and dint do too much harm

Originally posted by royjames
As for the law lords ruling they dont live in the real world,if those who are detained wont leave the country on their own accord and no one wants to take them then what are we supposed to do?


Well I suppose they could be charged with whatever offences are appropriate and put on trial ?

The govt. are eventually going to have to do something about these people, unless they are to be left to rot until they die or become so insane they can be sectioned.

If they were British nationals detained in Saudi Arabia the BNP would be foaming at the mouth over it :D

Originally posted by Lickszz
Blunkett’s behaviour and callous treatment of Kimberly Quinn during her period of illness has been disgraceful.

However, the Pro-Blunkett / Anti-Quinn brigade are saying this shows the moral character of Blunkett; ie, unlike so many absent fathers, Blunkett actually wants access to his lovechild...

You decide...

I'm afraid I don't think it's the right behaviour for a so called 'honourable' gentleman to bully a woman into court proceedings when she is seriously ill with a child.

I'm looking forward to him joining Fathers for jusice

Well if Dave want I will give him the meeting times and places for fathers 4 justice im sure he might be more interested now.
I think he is doing the right thing in wanting to see his child,good on him.

sugar he just beat me to it lol:hihi:

I don't understand why so many people are against ID cards. I think they are a good idea as we won't have to carry them at all times when we go out, as I have nothing to hide. It could be useful to have one nationally recognised card instead of having to carry different forms of ID... unless you are a criminal of course!

Regarding Blunkett's "son", I agree he should have a right to continue seeing him if it is proven he is Blunkett's child. Although maybe Blunkett should consider which he is more interested in... his own happiness or the child's happiness? He appears to be more concerned for himself than for the child.

Today I met a Guardian journalist at Firth Park - he was canvassing public opinion about David Blunkett. He said he hadn't found anyone with a bad word for him.
Of course I referred him to the Sheffield Forum as an easier way to get public opinions than pounding the streets in Firth Park.
I think his article is published tomorrow (Friday).

Well dont forget blunketts constituency consists of much more than firth park and he might have got a different response if he had gone to shiregreen or southey.

Originally posted by Patchy
Although maybe Blunkett should consider which he is more interested in... his own happiness or the child's happiness? He appears to be more concerned for himself than for the child.
Why should the childs happiness be affected because his (possible) biological father wants to play an active role in his upbringing?

I think that he should be commended as a father who wants to take part in his sons life rather than condemned.
Seriously it's a damn ed if you do, damned if you don't situation with some women.

If his 'female dog' of an ex-mistress wasn't so hell bent on making his life crap then maybe the child wouldn't suffer in the long run.

Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
Why should the childs happiness be affected because his (possible) biological father wants to play an active role in his upbringing?


If the child is being brought up by Mr and Mrs Quinn as his mummy and daddy, it may not be the best thing for him to have this new "daddy" trying to compete with Mr Quinn. How are they going to explain he now has 2 daddies?

Even if it might not be in the best interest of the child, I can understand Blunkett wanting to see him though... what father wouldn't want contact with his son? I suppose that is one reason not to get into an adulterous affair. Its a pity Blunkett had to learn the painful way.

this question of who do i call daddy

blunkett - the hyprocrite preacher - has an adulterous affair and is the putative father of mrs. quinn's child

she and her husband bring the child up in a social family

the rights of the child are paramount not those of the sperm donator

his father is his social father

biological rights - reactionary mcp bull**** that a man has rights over any child issuing from a liaison

I don't much care about his affair, nor his fast-tracking.

I am just delighted that this authoritarian right winger is out of office, and that the Law Lords have roundly criticised his use of imprisonment without trial.

Well it looks like daves ex has allegidly been doing another bloke according to the news of the world.
I bet he is gutted by this news,plus maybe he aint the father of the child afterall.
I feel sorry for the hubby what a woman he has for a wife,slapper is quite appropiate in this case.

Yeah, he was on the news on couple of weeks ago talking to the press outside thier home. How humiliated must he be? Good on him for wanting to stand by his missus - he's a better man than I.

Well I have to say he is either madly in love with her in which his judgement might be open to question or he is a total fool.
Either way I dont think I woul'd like to be in his shoes right now,he must wonder what he has done to deserve all this,poor sod.

If you think this is the end of DB then you are miss guided.
He will be back,and some people are even touting him as the next PM....After all who else could follow Tony Blair,well known and a high profile.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...

John t

If Blunkett had simply kept his trap shut, his ex could have revealed all to the papers or wrote a book!

Where would he stand as far as the CSA are concerned?

Originally posted by john t
If you think this is the end of DB then you are miss guided.
He will be back,and some people are even touting him as the next PM....After all who else could follow Tony Blair,well known and a high profile.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...

John t

Well, there's a General Election before he can get back anywhere.

Now I know that most of the good folk of Sheffield Brightside would vote for a donkey as long as it was wearing a red rosette, but you never know....

Originally posted by Yodameister
Well, there's a General Election before he can get back anywhere.

Now I know that most of the good folk of Sheffield Brightside would vote for a donkey as long as it was wearing a red rosette, but you never know....
Now now yoda!

Okay, I am being slightly tongue in cheek.

I'm a constituent of his as well, and possibly in my younger (and more misguided) days I would have voted for anyone Labour no matter what.

But, maybe with the way he has come out as being
1. Anti civil liberties
2. A philanderer (to use a nice old fashioned word!)

Maybe one or two people may actually decide to vote on the man rather than the party for a change.

Originally posted by Yodameister
Now I know that most of the good folk of Sheffield Brightside would vote for a donkey as long as it was wearing a red rosette, but you never know....

Unfortunately you have hit here one of the major problems that Sheffield has. It may not actuially be strictly true but the view from Parliment seems to be that Sheffield is hard Labour and will always vote Labour no matter what, hence if the Conservatives get in they wont send money into Sheffield as they think no-one will ever vote for them and Labour won't send any money into Sheffield because they think they don't need to...

Perhaps its time to give the political system a well deserved kick in the pants!

Originally posted by evildrneil
Unfortunately you have hit here one of the major problems that Sheffield has. It may not actuially be strictly true but the view from Parliment seems to be that Sheffield is hard Labour and will always vote Labour no matter what, hence if the Conservatives get in they wont send money into Sheffield as they think no-one will ever vote for them and Labour won't send any money into Sheffield because they think they don't need to...

Perhaps its time to give the political system a well deserved kick in the pants!

The Labour party thought this about Chesterfield before the last election ......all of a sudden they want to be seen in Chesterfield.

Originally posted by Yodameister
Okay, I am being slightly tongue in cheek.

I'm a constituent of his as well, and possibly in my younger (and more misguided) days I would have voted for anyone Labour no matter what.

But, maybe with the way he has come out as being
1. Anti civil liberties
2. A philanderer (to use a nice old fashioned word!)

Maybe one or two people may actually decide to vote on the man rather than the party for a change.


That 'incitement to racial hatred' clause of his could be seen as just a vote-winning consession to many of his constituents. But how any self-respecting Muslim or Christian could vote for a man with such apparent contempt for 'family values' is hard to imagine.

Blair and his acolytes are forever rolling out 'family values' as their watch-word, but none have had the political courage to condemn Blunkett's behaviour. Perhaps I'm old fashioned in believing that preachers should live by the creed they preach ?

Originally posted by Greybeard
That 'incitement to racial hatred' clause of his could be seen as just a vote-winning consession to many of his constituents. But how any self-respecting Muslim or Christian could vote for a man with such apparent contempt for 'family values' is hard to imagine.

Blair and his acolytes are forever rolling out 'family values' as their watch-word, but none have had the political courage to condemn Blunkett's behaviour. Perhaps I'm old fashioned in believing that preachers should live by the creed they preach ?

I think you are right to make that comment, although we are talking about politicians here!

As it goes, Blunkett has upset many people with a couple of his ideas.

He is not such a bad fellow though, I feel that other MP`s might have received much less exposure.

Blunket was a terrible choice for home secretary, the damage the man could have done and never realised could have been huge. I did not like the I D card scheme at first but the more I think about it the better it seems, the only people who need to worry are the the people who need to be worried. Law abiding citizens have no fear.

How will they be able to prove the holder is the actual person that the card says they are ? finger print, dna, retina scan, bit shady that one.(RS) they need to sort that one out now before it gets running or there could be huge problems with fake Ids, and a huge waste of money and planning.

Some good ideas from his camp but I hope he doesnt get his job back.

Originally posted by jonsastar
I did not like the I D card scheme at first but the more I think about it the better it seems, the only people who need to worry are the the people who need to be worried. Law abiding citizens have no fear.



But it's becoming increasingly difficult to be sure what laws we need to abide by. Each succeeding govt. seems determined to enact more new laws than the last one, most of them badly drafted, in haste and with little regard to the advice of lawyers who have to interpret them.

The danger of ID cards lies not in the facility they offer to law-enforcement agencies, but the insight into our private affairs they offer to other govt., local and even commercial agencies who have nothing to do with law enforcement.

Your local council already sell the electoral roll to marketing agencies, there will much more useful information in your ID file and politicians are notoriously incapable of resisting the opportunity of raising some easy money to spend.

Never worked in New York, doubt it will work here.

Could not the money be better spent?