Blades chief eyes deal that would bring in young Hungarian stars

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2129629,00.html

Sheffield United could benefit from the cream of emerging Hungarian football talent as a result of negotiations under way between Ferencvaros and the Bramall Lane club's plc chairman, Kevin McCabe.
McCabe's company, Scarborough Property Group, has been invited to tender for Ferencvaros by their chairman, Gyorgy Rieb, who heard about McCabe through "word of mouth" because his firm have offices in Budapest. With debts of more than £5m, Ferencvaros are effectively insolvent but an attractive development site that has been made available by the Budapest municipal authorities as part of the sale has drawn McCabe's interest.


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Hungarian sources suggest the city and club are seeking bids in the region of £20m for an outright purchase. Although McCabe would not provide details of the amount he will tender, he confirmed that an indicative bid would be lodged with the authorities within a fortnight.
"Ferencvaros approached us to look at whether we could work with them in redeveloping the land around the stadium with the local government and redeveloping the stadium to what would loosely be a European standard," said McCabe.

"We're looking at managing the football operations to make the club more successful. We have offered to have some of our people seconded there from Sheffield United, if and as and when.

"I've said to Ferencvaros that we would try and improve their approach to fitness, diet and nutrition, particularly along the academy side. There have been some good young products recently in Hungary but with a bit better technical training they can perhaps revive their former glories."

McCabe hopes that, if his bid succeeds, Hungarian prodigies may be seen at Bramall Lane "within five years".

McCabe hopes that, if his bid succeeds, Hungarian prodigies may be seen at Bramall Lane "within five years".

Well it does need a lot of building work. :hihi::hihi:

Puscas will turn in his grave, I was at Wembley that fatefull day when they tore us to shreds.

Can anyone remember when Hungary last had a half decent national team or produced a class player?

Any advance on 1966 with Albert & Bene?

Can anyone remember when Hungary last had a half decent national team or produced a class player?

Any advance on 1966 with Albert & Bene?

1994 was it?

Last time the qualified for the World Cup finals was in the '80's I think - and 1966 was last time they reached the quarter finals.

Seems the game is in a real state over there and McCabe could have probably bought the entire league for less than £5 million.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/10/18/where_did_it_all_go_wrong_for.html

While I welcome news of us making links abroad, I was surprised by this.

Wouldn't it be better for us to set up links with a club from Brazil, France or Holland?

While I welcome news of us making links abroad, I was surprised by this.

Wouldn't it be better for us to set up links with a club from Brazil, France or Holland?

I think it would be a better return on a £5 million investment - all have a superior tradition of developing young talent than Hungary for a good 30 odd years - and in Holland and France, apart from Ajax, Feyenoord (maybe) & Lyon, that sort of money would go a long way - both Dutch and French leagues (and Portuguese?) largely survive by developing young talent and selling it on to Italy / Spain / England.

Far more talent coming out of Africa where the Dutch and French are talent spotting than in Eastern Europe.

1994 was it?

Think that's Bulgaria ur thinking off!:huh:

Hungary is hardly a hotbed of exciting football talent. We'd be better off investing in african football.

But at least we're making links somewhere.

No.

'SUFC shows financial muscle again'...as opposed to the skill, bottle and belief required to stay in the top flight with the rest of the 'big' clubs. And flexing their 'financial musle' on anything but good players.

Go on the Blunts. :hihi::hihi:

We really are clutching at straws now, aren't we? :help:

Think that's Bulgaria ur thinking off!:huh:

Yeah, I realised I got the wrong Womble whilst at work today DOH

Bottom line is that McCabe is a very smart and astute businessman.
If there's anything to be gained by investing in this club then I'm sure that he'll do it.
Conversely he won't if there isn't.
At least he has the wherewithal to consider it, unlike other local clubs populated with some smart mouth "supporters" :rolleyes:

Bottom line is that McCabe is a very smart and astute businessman.
If there's anything to be gained by investing in this club then I'm sure that he'll do it.
Conversely he won't if there isn't.


Many a smart businessman has lost money in football. I think his knowledge of Hungarian football may be a little dated, similarly his judgement of Robson's ability.

No.

'SUFC shows financial muscle again'...as opposed to the skill, bottle and belief required to stay in the top flight with the rest of the 'big' clubs. And flexing their 'financial musle' on anything but good players.

Go on the Blunts. :hihi::hihi:

We really are clutching at straws now, aren't we? :help:

Jazz what is "financial musle" is it some kind of Hungarian breakfast that stockbrokers eat?

Jazz what is "financial musle" is it some kind of Hungarian breakfast that stockbrokers eat?

Not the spelling, pleeeeeeez not the spelling!!! What a comeback u loser:hihi:

Not the spelling, pleeeeeeez not the spelling!!! What a comeback u loser:hihi:

For a person who never mispells like Jazzy it really is :D

Not the spelling, pleeeeeeez not the spelling!!! What a comeback u loser:hihi:

Sold your club yet " winner " ? or are we waiting to sell the training ground first?
For a supporter of wendy you are hardly in a position to come out with insults are we?

So according to the original post by Bladesufc01, Ferencvaros are looking for £20m investment and McCabe is looking for "prodigies" in five years time.

Now, given the lack of "prodigies" from Hungary in most of our lifetimes, can anybody not think of a better way to spend £20m?

I don't see some Hungarian club as a way forward, we might find Granville's Dad but a hotbed of talent is less likely,surely we'd be better investing such monies in a lower division side in a better footballing country such as Portugal or a top side in a better producing but poorer country like Croatia

I don't see some Hungarian club as a way forward, we might find Granville's Dad but a hotbed of talent is less likely,surely we'd be better investing such monies in a lower division side in a better footballing country such as Portugal or a top side in a better producing but poorer country like Croatia

on its own i quite agree,
but we all already have feeder clubs in south america, holland, china, and belgium i believe,

sufc have currently just bought another acadamy in the north east of UK.

they are on the right tracks to get all the best palyers and sell them at good prices.

on its own i quite agree,
but we all already have feeder clubs in south america, holland, china, and belgium i believe,

sufc have currently just bought another acadamy in the north east of UK.

they are on the right tracks to get all the best palyers and sell them at good prices.

So all the best young players in the future are going to sign for the Blades rather than say Man Utd? In your dreams.

No, but they could sign for us to get to Man Utd.
Tevez and aaaaaaayyy Mascherano were pimped through West Ham, but by us owning the foreign feeder club can do our own pimping

In this case Ferencvaros are a big side in Hungary so all the little Granvilles want to play for them first then if they are any good , we bring them cheaply and flog em on at British market value.
I'm just not certain that Hungary is the right place

No, but they could sign for us to get to Man Utd.
Tevez and aaaaaaayyy Mascherano were pimped through West Ham, but by us owning the foreign feeder club can do our own pimping

You're more likely to be people into trafficking than nurturing the best young talents from around the world:hihi:.....dont worry Wednesday will soon be bringing World class talent back to Sheff ield as soon as were back on our feet!:D

You're more likely to be people into trafficking than nurturing the best young talents from around the world:hihi:.....dont worry Wednesday will soon be bringing World class talent back to Sheff ield as soon as were back on our feet!:D

I don't think either Utd or Wednesday are going to see a world class player in their side for a long, long time.

I don't think either Utd or Wednesday are going to see a world class player in their side for a long, long time.

Sad but true.

The nearest we get to world class in Sheffield is the snooker at the Crucible!

So all the best young players in the future are going to sign for the Blades rather than say Man Utd? In your dreams.


go and find the understanding of feeder clubs then come back to this forum

go and find the understanding of feeder clubs then come back to this forum

Just sufficient to say that there are far more players in the Prem that have come through say Man U's & West Ham's youth teams than all the feeder clubs in the world. A good scouting network covers far more players and doesn't have the infrastructure costs of running feeder teams.

Hungary, where this thread started, are a joke. Do you really want players from a country who lost to Malta or has a top club that lost to a team from Liechenstein???

Just a little reminder of the power of Hungarian football in case you didn't read it last time.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/10/18/where_did_it_all_go_wrong_for.html


Not saying the site in Budapest isn't a decent business investment for McCall, just don't think he'll be banking on any returns from the football side.

It only takes one gem.
I think it is for the future is it not.

It only takes one gem.


Rocking horse sh*t is far more common than Hungarian footballing gems in the last 20 odd years.

This is first and foremost, (and second, third and fourthmost) a business investment by McCall. The site happens to include a (debt ridden) football team.

Maybe the Hungarians haven't had the investment to unearth these talents and MCCABE possibly thinks it's worth a crack with his spare spondoolicks, they don't have to be huge talents just need several saleable assets to come out of it for his 5m.
Do Barnsley have a couple of H-H-Hungarians or Bulgarians

Come to think, the talents don't even have to be Hungarian, just drag em in from other surrounding countries.


Might even be able to get Wednesday a Transylvanian Goalie, Don't expect him to be too good with crosses

Just sufficient to say that there are far more players in the Prem that have come through say Man U's & West Ham's youth teams than all the feeder clubs in the world. A good scouting network covers far more players and doesn't have the infrastructure costs of running feeder teams.

Hungary, where this thread started, are a joke. Do you really want players from a country who lost to Malta or has a top club that lost to a team from Liechenstein???

Just a little reminder of the power of Hungarian football in case you didn't read it last time.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/10/18/where_did_it_all_go_wrong_for.html


Not saying the site in Budapest isn't a decent business investment for McCall, just don't think he'll be banking on any returns from the football side.

Its about finding a Good youth player then taking him under our wings at the acadamy, only recently we've had Liverpool & Chelsea fighting over a defender from OUR Acadamy that SUFC have given him all we can give, that alone says how well OUR Acamady is doing,

SWFC cant / wont EVER for the next 10 years MINIMUM have an ACADAMY as good as sufc's FACT
the other players are just starting their 2nd season with the big boys, ALL on international duty, so that's saying something!

Rocking horse sh*t is far more common than Hungarian footballing gems in the last 20 odd years.

This is first and foremost, (and second, third and fourthmost) a business investment by McCall. The site happens to include a (debt ridden) football team.


Does that mean SWFC could be in his sights as well then :confused: :hihi::hihi:

SWFC cant / wont EVER for the next 10 years MINIMUM have an ACADAMY as good as sufc's FACT

Think you find one of your recent players of the season and all round Owls reject Leigh Bromby came through our youth ranks, shows you how bad it's been then!

Do Barnsley have a couple of H-H-Hungarians or Bulgarians

Dingles got a couple of G-G-G-Granvilles without going to the expense of setting up an academy - although not sure if they were signed to play football or deliver groceries to Gawber.

the other players are just starting their 2nd season with the big boys, ALL on international duty, so that's saying something!

Academy players representing the Blades in the Northern Ireland Milk Cup isn't exactly international duty though.

http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/AcademyProfilesDetail/0,,10418~928726,00.html

Dingles got a couple of G-G-G-Granvilles without going to the expense of setting up an academy - although not sure if they were signed to play football or deliver groceries to Gawber.
one of them delivered a few goals though

Academy players representing the Blades in the Northern Ireland Milk Cup isn't exactly international duty though.

http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/AcademyProfilesDetail/0,,10418~928726,00.html

what are you on about???

Think you find one of your recent players of the season and all round Owls reject Leigh Bromby came through our youth ranks, shows you how bad it's been then!

I'm bemused as to when Bromby was player of the year for the Blades?

I'm bemused as to when Bromby was player of the year for the Blades?

I thought he won it in his first season with your lot, but hey i may be wrong!

Bromby is a decent defender but he's not one of our top players. He hasn't won player of the season either.

Bromby is a decent defender but he's not one of our top players. He hasn't won player of the season either.

Well you'd better tell your fellow Blade to get his site updated then coz according to these he has Bromby Profile (http://www.sheff-utd.co.uk/0607a/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=108&Itemid=154)

Better go and cleanse myself now by going on an Owls site :D

what are you on about???

When you posted;

"SWFC cant / wont EVER for the next 10 years MINIMUM have an ACADAMY as good as sufc's FACT
the other players are just starting their 2nd season with the big boys, ALL on international duty, so that's saying something!"


I thought you were claiming all 2nd year academy players were on international duty - there's absolutely nowt about it on the academy web pages.

Bryan Robson is lining up an audacious bid to take Everton misfit James Beattie to Sheffield United.

Sheffield United have included Newry City skipper Richard Clarke in their squad for Saturday's friendly against Portadown.
The Northern Ireland Under-21 international central midfielder caught the eye of boss Bryan Robson last weekend and is set to link up with the Blades even though he is currently on trial with League Two Bury.
Clarke, 22, said: "It's nice to be involved with such a big club. Hopefully I can get on the pitch."

Bryan Robson is lining up an audacious bid .


It's catching

Yes I know, but we have the money to do deals like that,Beattie will be talking to Robbo next week when Everton come back from the USA.

I wouldn't want Beattie for such a price.

Max £1.5 million, but even then it would be for a player we don't need

I wouldn't want Beattie for such a price.

Max £1.5 million, but even then it would be for a player we don't need

agreed - we don't need him! it's nice that we can bid £4m (and not have to back out at last minute :D ) but we need (IMO) a winger and central midfielder. we have 7 first team strikers!

Agreed £4 million is too much for Beattie.
From what i can gather though Hulse may not be ready for the start of the season.
Horsfield has again obviously not pulled any trees up in pre season.
This would show that we need cover for Hulse or a Hulse/Beattie partnership up front if needed.
We also have to remember that if Horsfield is no use, Nade is not what we expect from him and can be sold and Webber's future also hangs in the balance then we probably need another striker.
I think the squad is in need of maybe cover for Keef and a central midfielder.

Freyasdad,

Whilst I can see Nade and possibly Horse going, I can't see Webber going at all. After all he promised me he was staying haha :D

Anyways, we have enough striking options. so unless we was going to get Beattie at a reduced price, I wouldn't be interested. After all he ain't exactly a world beater (no pun intended)

We have a wealth of options in Webber, Stead, Sharp, Hulse (when fit) and Shelton

I wouldn't be that bothered if Nade, Horse, Stead was sold on, although I'd rather send Nade out on loan, and get him to sort his diet/fitness out.

If we don't sign anyone else I wouldn't be too concerned. I don't see any position in which we may struggle this year. Our squad if anything is too large

Everton last night accepted a £4M bid from Sheffield United for James Beattie.

Everton last night accepted a £4M bid from Sheffield United for James Beattie.

Come on tosh, tell the full story.

Looks like Beattie prefers Blackburn.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2007/07/28/everton-accept-offer-for-beattie-64375-19533103/

Beattie will not be going to Blackburn as they have just signed Cruz.

Beattie will not be going to Blackburn as they have just signed Cruz.

Ay, for £3.5 million. Hope Blades won't be paying £4 million for somebody Mark Hughes doesn't rate as highly as Cruz.

United need a good half back line, 4 lads that can hold and pass the ball at the moment there's a lot of bite but little else.

£4m for beattie is probably about £2m too much.

I would have preferred to see us try for robbie fowler

Looking on an Everton fans forum site they are ecstatic about possibly getting £4m for Beattie and cant believe anybody would be daft enough to pay that much.

Looking on an Everton fans forum site they are ecstatic about possibly getting £4m for Beattie and cant believe anybody would be daft enough to pay that much.

I have a lot of doubts about Robson's managerial skills but have never doubted his ability to pay over the odds for a player (though he hasn't reached the Souness level yet).

Give the guy a chance ,he did not have Kidd as his no 2,Kidd is one of the best coaches around & Fergy does not doubt his abilty.

It's about 10 years since Kidd was Fergies number 2. Can't think of much he's done since.

It's about 10 years since Kidd was Fergies number 2. Can't think of much he's done since.

Wether it was 10 years or 100 years the guy did it & fergy said he was one of the best coaches around & he was gutted when he left.

Sheffield United have been granted permission to hold talks with Australian winger David Carney. Sydney FC have given Carney the go-ahead to travel to England to discuss a move to Bramall Lane. Blades plc chairman Kevin McCabe confirmed the Australia international is a target for Bryan Robson and believes the player will be impressed with what the Championship club have to offer.

Wether it was 10 years or 100 years the guy did it & fergy said he was one of the best coaches around & he was gutted when he left.

Operative word there is "was". I notice Fergie hasn't tried to tempt him back - wonder why?

Operative word there is "was". I notice Fergie hasn't tried to tempt him back - wonder why?

Because Carlos Queirouz (spelling) is there.

Sorry computer error fellas, yes that old chestnut again.

I know we have different aspirations than our friends from across the city but give the man a chance.
I also know you can't read too much in to pre season friendlies but we haven't done bad so far have we?
We also have to think that we had to start behind other teams with transfers etc and as far as i am concerned Robson so far has done nothing wrong.

I know we have different aspirations than our friends from across the city but give the man a chance.
I also know you can't read too much in to pre season friendlies but we haven't done bad so far have we?
We also have to think that we had to start behind other teams with transfers etc and as far as i am concerned Robson so far has done nothing wrong.

Wednesday fans hated Warnock because of the success he brought to United in his time at BDTBL, Cup semi finals, a play-off final and a promotion to the Premiership.
Now to hide the fact that they change managers at Swillborough more than i change underwear they now bang on about Robbo and his past failings ( I agree with you FD we need to give the bloke a chance )
For the past 10 years or so wednesday have been 2nd best to the Blades and they cant stand it and grasp at any straw possible again to deflect the comedic goings on at the sty...
They can laugh at us getting relegated and the Tevez stuff etc but now everyone is laughing at them what with the multi millionaire takeover talks every other day and all these 2 million quid players coming in ( All i see are loan and free transfer players going to swfc ) and DA laughing his bollards off as he sells yet another season ticket.
We are a bigger club than them even though they have a slightly bigger fan base, we have a better stadium, more money and a brighter future :D
Get used to it :P

Regards CB
UTB

Operative word there is "was". I notice Fergie hasn't tried to tempt him back - wonder why?

Because he has a assistant coach.

Robbo going for Kilbane at Wigan £1.5m

Robbo going for Kilbane at Wigan £1.5m

where'd you hear that?

On chipp buttie site also a wigan fan site.

yes, seen it now - the GCB site hadn't updated on my PC when you posted it that's all! Potentially a decent signing!

he plays out-wide doesn't he? we certainly need another wide player (No jokes about Beattie being wide intended)

I would like Kilbane to come to the Lane I was suprised Everton let him go,Robbo has said that at least 2 more players will arrive in the next 24 to 48 hours.

I would like Kilbane to come to the Lane I was suprised Everton let him go,Robbo has said that at least 2 more players will arrive in the next 24 to 48 hours.

Don't think he stated that they would arrive, but he is hopeful of things progressing

Looking on an Everton fans forum site they are ecstatic about possibly getting £4m for Beattie and cant believe anybody would be daft enough to pay that much.


Beattie in the championship will be 300% better than he was in the premiership. you just dont want to pay 4 Million for a championship player, shelton is and will be a better attacker than Beattie this year BY FAR

Brown gone to Wigan on a 3 year contract,good luck to him he's going to need it.

Because Carlos Queirouz (spelling) is there.

If Fergie wanted somebody enough he'd get him - assistant coach in place or not.

If Fergie wanted somebody enough he'd get him - assistant coach in place or not.
Fergie and Kidd fell out end of story, just look at Beckham and Keane.