View Full Version : What does "SHEFFIELD" need?


phat_house
17-07-2007, 13:26
Everyone keeps saying how boring the night life is in sheffield.. so what does everyone want?
There are loads of places to go out in sheffield but still something seems to be missing.
So what does everyone want? and if you were able to open a bar/club, what would it be?

Craig Holmes
17-07-2007, 13:43
It needs a really nice venue. Something modern and stylish but with an undergorund vibe to it at the same time. Definitely a place that generates a good atmosphere unlike the current pretenders to the throne. Somewhere with a fairly large capacity, over the 1k mark. The kind of place that regularly gets DJs like Erick Morillo, Steve Angello, Sasha etc. Thats what i'd like anyway.

blondie-blue
17-07-2007, 14:11
It definately needs a new superclub, something to really get ya going, the club life in sheffield at the mo is poo... too much cheese like embrace and dirty grime like Vibe..!!

the-lioness
17-07-2007, 14:46
ive been talking about this a lot with mates recently as we all agree- sheffied has hit an all time low in the night life stakes!!:hihi: i really think it needs somewhere 'fresh' that attracts a more 'southern' attitude to nightlife (laid back more house vibes, less of the ****ty 'tude a lot of sheffield clubbers seem to have ''we'er out to av it large, get pished, get laid and end up with a greasy kebab'' it needs more hed kandi nights (dunno which venue tho- maybe plug) and more glamour rather than cheesy sweaty lads n lasses stood in bedroom bar and westways thinkin they are gangsta. anyway enuf of the negative - my suggestions are a club of medium size (could be located at the old niche) and the interior could be light, bright and frsh- no hidden corners for gropers n dealers etc- strickt door policy- no local chavvy or twenty pence millionaires and house/ funky house music policy with plenty of local dj nites.

phat_house
17-07-2007, 15:04
well if you want to have it large get ******, laid and end up with a greasy kebab then bedroom n westways are there perfect places. lol
But i know what you mean there not exactly glamourous.
I think a club with funcky house music could be good but is there really enough people who want that sort of thing?

the-lioness
17-07-2007, 15:21
well if you want to have it large get ******, laid and end up with a greasy kebab then bedroom n westways are there perfect places. lol
But i know what you mean there not exactly glamourous.
I think a club with funcky house music could be good but is there really enough people who want that sort of thing?

possibly not- sheffield clubbers are either into cheesy dance or grimy bassline as BB says- nowt wrong with that i like a bit of everything! however, hed kandi does appeal to a lot of ppl and its does get everyone ravin- as for embrace all ive got to say is- the place STINKS!!! and i mean actually smells- enough to put me off!!:hihi:

Jess22
17-07-2007, 15:31
I would love Sheffield to take advantage of some of the views we have. Sunset strip in Ibiza for an example. The views are stunning and ok they have better weather, are next to the sea, and have a better sunset, but why don't we have a good bar overlooking some nice scenery maybe in the direction of the sunset? :confused: Why does our nighlife have to be based on interiors instead of views and all crammed into the city centre? :confused: oh yeah, planning permission :rant: I would much prefer to go to a strip of chillout bars in the country than the town centre for a change.

phat_house
17-07-2007, 15:32
God i havent even bothered going to embrace i knew it wouldnt be any good as they were inviting all the old kingdom members back.
I dont see the problem with vibe tho, its a fantastic place for the speed garage scene, if its not your thing then dont go.
Dance music is definatly on its way out, kingdom was getting really empty before they shut for the big refurb.
I think we need more r n b, theres not many places that cater for that now aspecially now empire has closed.

Jess22
17-07-2007, 15:37
It needs a really nice venue. Something modern and stylish but with an undergorund vibe to it at the same time. Definitely a place that generates a good atmosphere unlike the current pretenders to the throne. Somewhere with a fairly large capacity, over the 1k mark. The kind of place that regularly gets DJs like Erick Morillo, Steve Angello, Sasha etc. Thats what i'd like anyway.

Yep, I agree with that too. How amazing would it be to see someone like Sashas and Digweed at a place like (but a bit bigger than) Under the Boardwalk. :love:

I actually think the Uni (Fusion) is probably one of the best venues in Sheff at the moment. Plug is good, Leadmill is what it is. Not bothered about the others. I'm not really into cheesy drunken nights. (But don't have anything against people that are, but I'm sure you agree there is plenty of choice for that kind of night) I am just hoping that Gatecrasher will be re-launched to be more like Republic than what it became.

the-lioness
17-07-2007, 15:47
I would love Sheffield to take advantage of some of the views we have. Sunset strip in Ibiza for an example. The views are stunning and ok they have better weather, are next to the sea, and have a better sunset, but why don't we have a good bar overlooking some nice scenery maybe in the direction of the sunset? :confused: Why does our nighlife have to be based on interiors instead of views and all crammed into the city centre? :confused: oh yeah, planning permission :rant: I would much prefer to go to a strip of chillout bars in the country than the town centre for a change.


that sounds a phat idea- sould take advantage of all the fresh air now the smokin ban is in place!! im thinking a big drum n bass/ rave type club ontop of redmires or stanage edge- sublime!

the-lioness
17-07-2007, 15:52
God i havent even bothered going to embrace i knew it wouldnt be any good as they were inviting all the old kingdom members back.
I dont see the problem with vibe tho, its a fantastic place for the speed garage scene, if its not your thing then dont go.
Dance music is definatly on its way out, kingdom was getting really empty before they shut for the big refurb.
I think we need more r n b, theres not many places that cater for that now aspecially now empire has closed.

dont get me wrong phat house- uptill last year we used to go to niche/ adelphi/ vibe/ reflective every week- and i still class bassline as my top choice on a clubbing night. but am moving more towards drum n bass these days.
as for the r'n'b - i think sheff does need more, but its catered for in uniq and bedroom bar and westways- where you tend to get the t*****s im 'fraid.... although i can roll with a bit of r'n'b wit the best of em

undz
17-07-2007, 16:22
I think Sheffield needs another Gatecrasher :)

ANVIL
17-07-2007, 21:37
wagamama! top place!

Agent Gypo
17-07-2007, 22:04
Sheffield desperately needs more underground places like Arches, Shhh and Matilda Social Centre.

I had good memories of 'Crasher, but does Sheffield really need another 'superclub'? There are enough large venues already, a few smaller venues are the order of the day I think.

House, cheese and indie are already well catered for. We don't need another shed with Hed Kandi themed events. Sheffield city centre is awash with bars that sell themselves as a 'classy upmarket modern drinking experience for supersexy people prepared to spend £5 on a Smirnoff mixer'.

More interesting nights like C90 are the way forward.

tom3t0
17-07-2007, 22:16
it needs a cannabis cafe, where you can play chess, cards, go, dominoes, backgammon, and other games or just simply chat in a relaxed atmosphere. an alcohol free zone.
the only way to enjoy the nightlife currently is to be drunk like the majority, if not you find the drunken people repulsive.

Marmite Man
17-07-2007, 22:23
I love the idea of people playing chess and Go in chilled spaces, but lets face it there is no Sky One series in that is there? "When Cleudo goes Bad"...not a ratings winner.

Me.... I want to reclaim the Leadmill for RISE. Dust me angel wings down......

grownsy
18-07-2007, 00:43
It needs a really nice venue. Something modern and stylish but with an undergorund vibe to it at the same time. Definitely a place that generates a good atmosphere unlike the current pretenders to the throne. Somewhere with a fairly large capacity, over the 1k mark. The kind of place that regularly gets DJs like Erick Morillo, Steve Angello, Sasha etc. Thats what i'd like anyway.

Underground??? Sounds about as underground as the Hemly Moor!

Does need a nice proper deep house night!!

ken1
18-07-2007, 00:54
rise was good & i liked ny sushi too, the big bang events at the ski village were cool.

Agent Gypo
18-07-2007, 01:02
rise was good & i liked ny sushi too, the big bang events at the ski village were cool.

I worked at a couple of the Big Bang events. I don't know why Ski Village didn't bother putting on more events like it, the bar staff were up for it.

honestjoe69
18-07-2007, 07:01
I would love to see a super club with a massive capacity that doesn't rely on pop cheese!

blondie-blue
18-07-2007, 07:37
God i havent even bothered going to embrace i knew it wouldnt be any good as they were inviting all the old kingdom members back.
I dont see the problem with vibe tho, its a fantastic place for the speed garage scene, if its not your thing then dont go.
Dance music is definatly on its way out, kingdom was getting really empty before they shut for the big refurb.
I think we need more r n b, theres not many places that cater for that now aspecially now empire has closed.


i go to Vibe often and altho i like the music the place is awful, it's scruffy and not the least bit inviting, what i'm trying to say is just because people like that sort of music why do the venue's have to s***, it makes ya feel scummy just because you enjoy that type of music!!!

Craig Holmes
18-07-2007, 08:51
Underground??? Sounds about as underground as the Hemly Moor!

Does need a nice proper deep house night!!

When I say "underground vibe" all I mean is that the people have to be there for the music rather than to get drunk and cop off. Ask Bobby bazzer in the street who Steve Angello is and he wont have scooby doo.

DaisyBoo
18-07-2007, 10:18
somewhere like what bed nightclub was, when it was at the top of its game. brilliant dj's every week, people that just want to go for the music. no idots or gangsters just people who want to go for a good night out and listen to some great dj's.
a good sized club which has a dark and a bit of an underground feel to it, nothing covered in bright plastic decour and flashing lights. but then no complete sh*t hole style place either. also needs to have places to wander around as i know lots of people dont like being confined to 1 big room.

bascially a venue like republic (pre refurb) with the music style/atomsphere and clubbers from bed.

grownsy
18-07-2007, 13:22
Pinup/Scuba/The Fez back....

i'd be a happy lad!

phat_house
18-07-2007, 15:08
Pinup/Scuba/The Fez back....

i'd be a happy lad!

What was the fez club like? i never even knew about it when it was open but i heard it was funky house music. Did it get busy in there?

discodown
18-07-2007, 17:30
Fez was awesome, not as good as bed but superb

Agent Gypo
19-07-2007, 13:04
Fez and Bed were decent spaces, but personally I didn't like the events they put on. Still, it's a shame they aren't there anymore.

WYEXILE
19-07-2007, 13:55
Watch this space. Party time is on its way back to the Fez!!!!!!!!!!

Unisol
19-07-2007, 19:05
wagamama! top place!

Aren't they opening an outlet in Leopold Square.

So i here anyhow?!?!

discodown
19-07-2007, 19:13
Watch this space. Party time is on its way back to the Fez!!!!!!!!!!Come on then spill the beans, pm me if you don't want everyone to know. I'll help out if you like

WYEXILE
20-07-2007, 07:15
Let's just say that plans are being put together to bring the Fez back as a house music venue.

grownsy
20-07-2007, 10:11
Aren't they opening an outlet in Leopold Square.

So i here anyhow?!?!

yesh they are...

somethingwit
20-07-2007, 10:35
IMO another corp-esque place would rock, only it'd need to be much smaller and with less of the cheesey metal/pop-punk/emo... more just about new music, with some actual good bands. Kinda like the boardwalk when they still held the moon ska tour. But looking at the rest of this thread I can see people with my musical tastes are in the minority. I just reckon Corp feels a bit big and empty since the smoking ban came into effect. :D

clipboard
20-07-2007, 11:04
I worked at a couple of the Big Bang events. I don't know why Ski Village didn't bother putting on more events like it, the bar staff were up for it.

they didn't carry on cos noone made any money from them! plus transporting people up to thtat area of town is a pain in the arse.maybe if the ski village re-opens and actually gets a re-furb etc.

are those plans completely dead inthe water now?

Agent Gypo
20-07-2007, 12:12
they didn't carry on cos noone made any money from them! plus transporting people up to thtat area of town is a pain in the arse.maybe if the ski village re-opens and actually gets a re-furb etc.

are those plans completely dead inthe water now?

Strange, the bar used to make a killing on those nights. I guess the promotors lost money on it.

I haven't heard anything for a while now. Some people I know still worked there until recently and think it will close soon. It's been overtaken by Castleford in a big way.

phat_house
20-07-2007, 12:48
Let's just say that plans are being put together to bring the Fez back as a house music venue.

So what plans are there then? As far as i knew it was being used as another room for vibe sometimes.

WYEXILE
20-07-2007, 14:05
All I can say is watch this space......

discodown
20-07-2007, 14:11
Come on you little tease!

WYEXILE
20-07-2007, 14:17
I'm not going to go blabbing all over the net so another promoter can come and blow me out of the water. All I'm trying to do is 'put my money where my mouth is' as the saying goes. I've had plenty to say about other peoples nights on here, maybe it's time I looked to do something of my own.

discodown
20-07-2007, 14:19
Then PM me and tell! I'm happy to help you in any way I can

Chris BIO
20-07-2007, 14:38
I think Sheffield needs would-be promoters to keep their secret plans exactly that and not get folk excited or give them a chance to scupper them. ;)

WYEXILE
20-07-2007, 14:40
My sentiments exactly.

discodown
20-07-2007, 14:41
you're both boring!

grownsy
20-07-2007, 14:43
pot kettle

Chris BIO
20-07-2007, 14:43
My sentiments exactly.

Er, I was referring to your good self! :D Ha ha ha.

See you Wedsnesday!

Steve: You gracing our hallowed decks when we start up again? Will be looking mid-Sept onwards I reckons.

discodown
20-07-2007, 14:47
Er, I was referring to your good self! :D Ha ha ha.

See you Wedsnesday!

Steve: You gracing our hallowed decks when we start up again? Will be looking mid-Sept onwards I reckons.Count me in

discodown
20-07-2007, 14:48
pot kettlei'm not boring! i'm wildly interesting and rather cheeky!

grownsy
20-07-2007, 14:50
he he he :smile:

Chris BIO
20-07-2007, 14:51
i'm not boring! i'm wildly interesting and rather cheeky!

Did your mam tell you that? :suspect:

discodown
20-07-2007, 14:52
Did your mam tell you that? :suspect:No. you did!

Chris BIO
20-07-2007, 14:53
No. you did!

Ah, I've stopped drinking now though, seen the light.

discodown
20-07-2007, 14:55
Ah, I've stopped drinking now though, seen the light.Curses!:hihi:

WYEXILE
20-07-2007, 17:31
Er, I was referring to your good self! :D Ha ha ha.

See you Wedsnesday!

Steve: You gracing our hallowed decks when we start up again? Will be looking mid-Sept onwards I reckons.

Why not get folk excited? There's not much else to get excited about at the moment.

markichamp
21-07-2007, 07:33
sheffield needs a party for nice people to get down to quality house, disko n broken sounds from the likes of chez n trent, moodymann, ferrer, recloose, masters at work, frank roger, larry levan, m........etc, complimented by live acts making an impact on new music, a little similar to that 'keep in time' do at the runway girl, ha ha
it also needs better care provison for the elderly but thats another thread.

marek
x




ps im feelin like this today
Chez Damier and Leroy Burgess ‘Your Love'

Chris BIO
21-07-2007, 09:07
Why not get folk excited? There's not much else to get excited about at the moment.

True, but I'd have thought its better to get em excited about something you've got sorted and concrete, not just an idea you're toying with. Saves them being let down and you being that bad man who got people excited over nothing (should it not come off) :) There's also a certain amount of discretion required in such matters, t'is a very competitive environment and hijacking/sabotage is not unknown, y'get meh?

Marek - good call, a nice party for nice people is what's it's about. Fed up of big a$$ed raves and lovely light shows. Intimate is where it's at.

I'm liking Monsieur Roger too a lot at the moment, and Motorcitysoul who Damier did that awesome Kids in the Streets tune with.

grownsy
21-07-2007, 10:49
Whats the first rule of fight club?

discodown
21-07-2007, 13:26
sheffield needs a party for nice people to get down to quality house, disko n broken sounds from the likes of chez n trent, moodymann, ferrer, recloose, masters at work, frank roger, larry levanMr Levan's production work is a very acquired taste. Who was the person who got Larry Heard to sheffield? Get that man a room and let him work some magic!

grownsy
21-07-2007, 14:51
Jamie from Scuba wasnt it?

discodown
21-07-2007, 17:55
Probably, get him back and give him a venue

dj4321gsr
21-07-2007, 18:57
Seems to me Sheffield is still stuck in a cheese loophole and has hit an all time low. I see so many people venture out of town religiously on a weekly basis as they are definately fed up with the lack of entertainment on every music genre.
If its down the house thang its got to hed kandi or nothing.
Although there has been alternative funky house nights which has stood the test of time, hustle etc, unfortunately these are not weekly. The sad thing that made the house scene stale was the same old usual suspect djs. What some people do not understand is that times are now changing and because Sasha is playing at a venue, no one is taking into account on how much he charges for a 2 hour set as everyone that claims to be a dj wants to be on the guest list. All n all it is not cost effective to put these nights on, as Gatecrasher / Bed soon found out soon enough.
R&B / Hip Hop years ago had the promise but just turned into a commercial monster without any underground soul getting pushed. The MTV ghetto superstar image unfortunately promoted the wrong image and now we have a nation of idiots that know nothing about the music or culture and now represent the badness surrounding this genre. Hence no club managers want these idiots in the club & there are no real proper R&B / Hip Hop nites in Sheffield, which is not surprising.
Aside from a few nights Sheffield is 90% cheese which offer no variety what so ever. From your pop R&B to your handbag hed kandi house to your ghetto madness speed garage; it seems to me what ever music genre you are into, you are hard to find a decent place to go to. Too much drink and not enough music knowledge and people that recognise a good party.
We need an underground radio station run by Sheffield djs for Sheffield people immediately.......... (not sheffield live!!!!!!!!!)

discodown
21-07-2007, 18:59
Seems to me Sheffield is still stuck in a cheese loophole and has hit an all time low. I see so many people venture out of town religiously on a weekly basis as they are definately fed up with the lack of entertainment on every music genre.
If its down the house thang its got to hed kandi or nothing.
Although there has been alternative funky house nights which has stood the test of time, hustle etc, unfortunately these are not weekly. The sad thing that made the house scene stale was the same old usual suspect djs. What some people do not understand is that times are now changing and because Sasha is playing at a venue, no one is taking into account on how much he charges for a 2 hour set as everyone that claims to be a dj wants to be on the guest list. All n all it is not cost effective to put these nights on, as Gatecrasher / Bed soon found out soon enough.
R&B / Hip Hop years ago had the promise but just turned into a commercial monster without any underground soul getting pushed. The MTV ghetto superstar image unfortunately promoted the wrong image and now we have a nation of idiots that know nothing about the music or culture and now represent the badness surrounding this genre. Hence no club managers want these idiots in the club & there are no real proper R&B / Hip Hop nites in Sheffield, which is not surprising.
Aside from a few nights Sheffield is 90% cheese which offer no variety what so ever. From your pop R&B to your handbag hed kandi house to your ghetto madness speed garage; it seems to me what ever music genre you are into, you are hard to find a decent place to go to. Too much drink and not enough music knowledge and people that recognise a good party.
We need an underground radio station run by Sheffield djs for Sheffield people immediately.......... (not sheffield live!!!!!!!!!)A superbly accurate post

dj4321gsr
21-07-2007, 19:02
Thank you Disco,

discodown
21-07-2007, 19:05
No worries.

the problem is a vicious circle. venue owners demand instant returns on a night and aren't prepared to wait and trust a night or promoters to eventually build the night up. This means that promoters have to deliver or they lose the venue, consequently they are forced to try to please as many people as possible who then only get one sort of night and therefore are trained to like it so demand it and it gets worse and worse.

Bring back Brown Street the last truly independant venue in the city that allowed promters the freedom to build a night on the music

markichamp
21-07-2007, 19:16
Motorcitysoul who Damier did that awesome Kids in the Streets tune with.

Ez bro, yup thats a heavy track that very, very nice

markichamp
21-07-2007, 19:22
Mr Levan's production work is a very acquired taste. Who was the person who got Larry Heard to sheffield? Get that man a room and let him work some magic!

Ahh mate, didn't you feel Levans edits?

discodown
21-07-2007, 19:28
I have to admit it took me a while. He was overall a good producer. A little bit inconsistant for my taste but its hard to deny his feel for percussion and his use of space in tracks.

I just never really felt he acheived all he could have if he'd really concentrated and worked on his music. Then again I think that about lots of people. Most recently Martin Solveig frustrates me

Agent Gypo
22-07-2007, 11:05
There is a very good Sheffield radio station:

http://www.sheffieldbleep.co.uk/

Stainboy
22-07-2007, 16:10
IMO another corp-esque place would rock, only it'd need to be much smaller and with less of the cheesey metal/pop-punk/emo... more just about new music, with some actual good bands. Kinda like the boardwalk when they still held the moon ska tour. But looking at the rest of this thread I can see people with my musical tastes are in the minority. I just reckon Corp feels a bit big and empty since the smoking ban came into effect. :D

I'll join your minority ;) I haven't moved up yet so haven't been to corp but I can imagine what it's like, I've just finished working in my little local alternative club down here, the music these places play is too samey like they're not willing to risk anything different. I hate "indie" now after I've had to hear the same drunken anthems every week. I know they have to please the punters but people arn't gonna leave if you mix in some lesser known tracks in there.

One thing I'd like to see is an all night cafe, no booze, just a space for people who happen to be awake to chill out. The uni should offer it, then it doesn't have to be as profitable as if a real business were doing it.

Welshboyhere
22-07-2007, 22:45
The Union is the best place! We students are very lucky. We have Tuesday club, with drum n bass, old school, fuzz- the indie night and frouk- rnb. These nights offer a great venue and value but I think what REALLY makes it work is the fact they ask the students opinion. These 'superclubs' of sheffield need to learn from the student union and consider the demands of sheffield clubbers.

Stainboy
23-07-2007, 07:51
Are any of the student places open during the summer or are they completely shut up till September?

dimitrysoul
23-07-2007, 10:53
Hustle is back in action in August at DQ.....Ive spent a lot of time thinking about what Sheffield clubbers want and what would get them out....

While guest DJs are important it has increasingly become apparent that people are only really interested in where the best party is or the most people are...

The next thing to over come is price. Its a nightmare to get Sheffield people to spend on admission...which directly pays for a Dennis Ferrer or a Steve Angello. So why would a promoter bother forking out £3k for DJs of this calibre...As a clubber I would gladly pay a tenner to see these guys play but unfortunately I think Im in the minority....I recall Hustle having Jo Mills on last Autumn and a group of girls objecting to pay a fiver to see Jo (and also Hatty Lovehearts)..when I pointed out that Jo was also playing at Basics in Leeds later that evening and it would them £23 each in Leeds it suddenly became ok to pull out a fiver!!

Hustle is ready to be a force in Sheffield again. We have got some spectacular bookings lined up, we are in an excellent new home and we have the tools and imagination to make good parties into amazing parties.

Hopefully we will see some of the more vocal Sheffield Forum members show their support.

See you soon

grownsy
23-07-2007, 14:47
Hustle is back in action in August at DQ.....Ive spent a lot of time thinking about what Sheffield clubbers want and what would get them out....

While guest DJs are important it has increasingly become apparent that people are only really interested in where the best party is or the most people are...

The next thing to over come is price. Its a nightmare to get Sheffield people to spend on admission...which directly pays for a Dennis Ferrer or a Steve Angello. So why would a promoter bother forking out £3k for DJs of this calibre...As a clubber I would gladly pay a tenner to see these guys play but unfortunately I think Im in the minority....I recall Hustle having Jo Mills on last Autumn and a group of girls objecting to pay a fiver to see Jo (and also Hatty Lovehearts)..when I pointed out that Jo was also playing at Basics in Leeds later that evening and it would them £23 each in Leeds it suddenly became ok to pull out a fiver!!

Hustle is ready to be a force in Sheffield again. We have got some spectacular bookings lined up, we are in an excellent new home and we have the tools and imagination to make good parties into amazing parties.

Hopefully we will see some of the more vocal Sheffield Forum members show their support.

See you soon

Great news!!! Look forward to it!!

erm £23 to get into myhouse.... are you sure?

dimitrysoul
23-07-2007, 15:38
Great news!!! Look forward to it!!

erm £23 to get into myhouse.... are you sure?

Totally....it was their birthday party...but £23 all the same for the same name DJ

tom3t0
23-07-2007, 16:20
it needs a forum where you can ask a legitimate question without it being "closed"

discodown
23-07-2007, 16:39
Hustle is back in action in August at DQ.....Ive spent a lot of time thinking about what Sheffield clubbers want and what would get them out....

While guest DJs are important it has increasingly become apparent that people are only really interested in where the best party is or the most people are...

The next thing to over come is price. Its a nightmare to get Sheffield people to spend on admission...which directly pays for a Dennis Ferrer or a Steve Angello. So why would a promoter bother forking out £3k for DJs of this calibre...As a clubber I would gladly pay a tenner to see these guys play but unfortunately I think Im in the minority....I recall Hustle having Jo Mills on last Autumn and a group of girls objecting to pay a fiver to see Jo (and also Hatty Lovehearts)..when I pointed out that Jo was also playing at Basics in Leeds later that evening and it would them £23 each in Leeds it suddenly became ok to pull out a fiver!!

Hustle is ready to be a force in Sheffield again. We have got some spectacular bookings lined up, we are in an excellent new home and we have the tools and imagination to make good parties into amazing parties.

Hopefully we will see some of the more vocal Sheffield Forum members show their support.

See you soonI'll support you know that

rachele
23-07-2007, 19:40
Sheffield needs, a really good Gay Club, aimed at Men AND Women, that has regular nights, and a range of acts on.

Also, a dirty all-nighter type club that plays dance music like; Drum n Bass, Old School, Jungle, Cheese. With a friendly attitude.

Sheffield also needs a venue thats like a club, but just has bands playing all night. Bit of a re-visit to the 1920's, that'd be cool.

WYEXILE
24-07-2007, 07:15
Totally....it was their birthday party...but £23 all the same for the same name DJ

Jo Mills didn't play the 15th birthday at Basics last year. It was Andy Weatherall, 2020 Soundsystem, The Glass, James Holroyd and Paul Woolford. A line up well worth £23 if you ask me.

dimitrysoul
24-07-2007, 08:36
They had a month of Birthday parties...being basics....Beero likes a party!

You are quite right about the line up for the main bash though WYEXILE

WYEXILE
24-07-2007, 08:52
Okay then, but I don't see a mention of £23 anywhere. In fact, I've only ever paid more than £20 into Basics on one occasion, and that was NYE 99/00.

November

4th Nov - Cocoon Night with
Mainroom - James Holden , James Holroyd , Ralph Lawson
Bedroom - Tristan Da Cunha , Despo and friends

11th Nov
Mainroom - DJ T , Jo Mills , Buckley
Bedroom - Simon Mu , James Barnsley

18th Nov
Mainroom - Rob Mello , Burnski , James Holroyd
Bedroom - Craig Christon , Lee Wright

25th Nov - Basics 15th Birthday - Love You Long Time with Andrew Weatherall , 20/20 Soundsystem Live , The Glass , Bez , Ralph Lawson , Paul Woolford , James Holroyd , Tristan Da Cunha , Buckley and Dave Beer.

Tickets £17 from Jumbo Records , Chimp Clothing and by Credit Card from Crash Records 01132436743 / www.crashrecords.co.uk

10pm-7am

£12/£10 NUS
* indicates increase in door price

dimitrysoul
24-07-2007, 09:39
Jesus WYEXILE...Im only explaining how it was explained to me by Jo's agent at the time...why,where and what for....they told me I should be charging more for our night because B2B were charging £23.......

WYEXILE
24-07-2007, 10:35
Sorry, I thought you were implying Basics were ripping people off as you were charging less for the same DJ. My apologies.

dimitrysoul
24-07-2007, 12:14
Sorry, I thought you were implying Basics were ripping people off as you were charging less for the same DJ. My apologies.


No not at all. £20 or so is a sensible price to charge for a line up of that quality.
Realistically Hustle should have been charging £7/£10 for some of the line ups we've had on but Sheffield people just wont pay it. Hence its a fiver to get in on the 10th!

funkin4jamai
24-07-2007, 22:42
As far back as I remember the person who first brought Levan to the turntables in Sheffield was Pete Girtley who now lives in London. Larry Levan , Leroy Burgess , Kenny Burke , Mtume , Musiq (soulchild) , Tashan ,Roy Ayers , Shabazz ,Mass Production, Sunburst Band, Patrice Rushen , Brand New Heavies ,Maxwell, etc.will be getting played every Friday and Saturday nites at( LISTED) , A brand new bar opening on West st. Also the big club classics ,Soul II Soul ,Jocelyn Brown ,Mary J Blige, Tom Brown ,R Kelly , Luther Vandross , George Benson, India , Frankie Knuckles etc , open this Saturday nite 28.7.07. BASICALLY IF YOU LIKE GOOD SOUL MUSIC get yourselves down to LISTED on West ST.

tom3t0
24-07-2007, 22:55
it needs desperately a set of swings in richmond park.

even A swing would be good!

Solstice
09-08-2007, 15:05
The next thing to over come is price. Its a nightmare to get Sheffield people to spend on admission...which directly pays for a Dennis Ferrer or a Steve Angello. So why would a promoter bother forking out £3k for DJs of this calibre...



If these DJ's are so good and have faith in their fans and promoters then why do they charge £3k for 2 hours? Surely they should ask for a percentage of ticket sales/door plus expenses. £3k is a ridiculous price and its no wonder the likes of 'Bed' and 'Rise' took a nose dive.

I've happily paid £10 to see Mr Scruff at Plug because of his 'calibre'... Also recently been to see pendulum at Sankeys in Manchester (£15) and down to London to see Evil Nine, Crafty Cutts and Scratch Perverts at Fabric in London (£15), happily paying the travel and entrance because, imho, the DJ's are awsome.

Onto Sheffield, UG was/is a great night, but hey... what the heck taking it out of civiville and sticking it in studentland - nowt against students but they leave and the nights stop til they come back.

Its supply and demand, if people want to hang out with coked up, paranoid wanna-be-ganstas (who aspire to the britcrime, robert deniro, alpha dog fiction) and get attitude from the drones of clones buzzing around whilst listening to cheesey pop then give them what they want :)

Peace

dimitrysoul
10-08-2007, 08:53
If these DJ's are so good and have faith in their fans and promoters then why do they charge £3k for 2 hours? Surely they should ask for a percentage of ticket sales/door plus expenses. £3k is a ridiculous price and its no wonder the likes of 'Bed' and 'Rise' took a nose dive.

I've happily paid £10 to see Mr Scruff at Plug because of his 'calibre'... Also recently been to see pendulum at Sankeys in Manchester (£15) and down to London to see Evil Nine, Crafty Cutts and Scratch Perverts at Fabric in London (£15), happily paying the travel and entrance because, imho, the DJ's are awsome

Most I suspect are encouraged by their manager/agent that they are worth every penny and more....but then same person will receive 10% or more of that fee.

Its good to see that you are prepared to spend money on quality entertainment . Have you got a couple hundred friends that are of the same attitude toward having a ggod time....If you have bring them down to Hustle tonight...lol

Cheers

Agent Gypo
10-08-2007, 19:11
For me, it's nights like C90, Headcharge and Razor Stiletto that make Sheffield. They are the kind of nights where I would go even without knowing who was playing.

dj4321gsr
11-08-2007, 09:52
For me, it's nights like C90, Headcharge and Razor Stiletto that make Sheffield. They are the kind of nights where I would go even without knowing who was playing.

Agree to disagree here mate. Unfortunately none of these nights are nationally or internationally known. To say they make Sheffield is nonsense. However massive local nights.
Headcharge has shown longevity and is very popular.
Razor Stilleto musically sucks but has an appealing image that makes it successful. (my opinion)
Love2be (in its hey day back in the mid 90's), Rise, Jive Turkey and Gatecrasher are the only nights that have really put Sheffield on the map

Chris BIO
11-08-2007, 12:49
Agree to disagree here mate. Unfortunately none of these nights are nationally or internationally known. To say they make Sheffield is nonsense. However massive local nights.
Headcharge has shown longevity and is very popular.
Razor Stilleto musically sucks but has an appealing image that makes it successful. (my opinion)
Love2be (in its hey day back in the mid 90's), Rise, Jive Turkey and Gatecrasher are the only nights that have really put Sheffield on the map

I disagree mate :)

Whilst I've only been to Headcharge out of the 3 listed by Gypo, I understand the sentiment. Whether or not the night puts us on the national/international scene or not doesn't matter one bit, it's whether they make Sheffield nightlife the unique treat that it is that counts (should you be prepared to dig a bit deeper). Nights like Scuba, Remedy, Lights Down Low, Pin-up, Cargo, Phonetics, Threads etc etc are/were all high on quality even if they're relatively low profile.

Agent Gypo
11-08-2007, 13:15
Agree to disagree here mate. Unfortunately none of these nights are nationally or internationally known. To say they make Sheffield is nonsense. However massive local nights.
Headcharge has shown longevity and is very popular.
Razor Stilleto musically sucks but has an appealing image that makes it successful. (my opinion)
Love2be (in its hey day back in the mid 90's), Rise, Jive Turkey and Gatecrasher are the only nights that have really put Sheffield on the map

National recognition is irrelevant, even though Headcharge attracted people from all over the country.

My point is it's nights like this that tried to do something different, and don't play one type of music all night.

House nights are ten a penny in every city in the UK. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but my argument is that Razor Stiletto's, C90's and the like are what helps to give Sheffield its character and diversity.

Look at the listings for any weekend, and you'll find 2-4 house nights, a couple of techno and 2-5 indie nights. Really, are they that different from each other to warrant so many?

dj4321gsr
11-08-2007, 17:06
I disagree mate :)

Whilst I've only been to Headcharge out of the 3 listed by Gypo, I understand the sentiment. Whether or not the night puts us on the national/international scene or not doesn't matter one bit, it's whether they make Sheffield nightlife the unique treat that it is that counts (should you be prepared to dig a bit deeper). Nights like Scuba, Remedy, Lights Down Low, Pin-up, Cargo, Phonetics, Threads etc etc are/were all high on quality even if they're relatively low profile.

I wish you would read carefully.
I agreed to disagree, which means simply yes and no.
But to put an end to the debate;
Scuba, Remedy, Lights Down Low, Pin-up, Cargo, Phonetics, Threads are good underground nights but they did not make Sheffield, like Jive Turkey, Love2be or Gatecrasher.
By the way you forgot other high profile nights like Quality and Urban Gorrilla that I would put ahead of your list due to size and national popuarity within the music industry. All I am pointing out is the casual statement "make Sheffield"
e,g.
Studio 54 / The Tunnel / Paradise Garage / Funhouse / Roxy - were flagships for New Yorks club scene
Hacienda / Home / Tribal Sessions - Manchester
Cream - Liverpool
De-Ja Vu - Hull
Warehouse (Kaos) / Magic - Leeds
Shellys - Stoke
Rock City - Nottingham
Ministry of Sound / Fabric / Agenda - London

I think you have listed nights that you rate highly rather than stature of popularity.

Chris BIO
11-08-2007, 17:09
I wish you would read carefully.
I agreed to disagree, which means simply yes and no.
But to put an end to the debate;
Scuba, Remedy, Lights Down Low, Pin-up, Cargo, Phonetics, Threads are good underground nights but they did not make Sheffield, like Jive Turkey, Love2be or Gatecrasher.
By the way you forgot other high profile nights like Quality and Urban Gorrilla that I would put ahead of your list due to size and national popuarity within the music industry. All I am pointing out is the casual statement "make Sheffield"
e,g.
Studio 54 / The Tunnel / Paradise Garage / Funhouse / Roxy - were flagships for New Yorks club scene
Hacienda / Home / Tribal Sessions - Manchester
Cream - Liverpool
De-Ja Vu - Hull
Warehouse (Kaos) / Magic - Leeds
Shellys - Stoke
Rock City - Nottingham
Ministry of Sound / Fabric / Agenda - London

I think you have listed nights that you rate highly rather than stature of popularity.


Yes exactly, popular doesn't necessarily make 'good', IMO. Rhianna's "Umbrella" was popular but ****, you get meh?

I never mentioned anything about them 'making' Sheffield per say (think you confuse mine with Gypo's point), they just enrich the nightlife without being 'big' nights. Hence leaving out UG et al. UG early days on a Thurs in the Fez and even before that in Brown St would apply, they've just got bigger nowadays.

dj4321gsr
11-08-2007, 17:11
[QUOTE=Agent Gypo;2527545]National recognition is irrelevant, even though Headcharge attracted people from all over the country.

I think that statement does not make sense. Most promoters would love to have a night that was a national success, as it probably would generate more money. I refer again to the casual phrase that one has quoted "make Sheffield"
My list stands as they are featured time and time again in books and novels. (Please read "last night a dj saved my life")

Chris BIO
11-08-2007, 17:13
My list stands as they are featured time and time again in books and novels. (Please read "last night a dj saved my life")

Quit the lectures mate, no need.

dj4321gsr
11-08-2007, 17:18
Yes exactly, popular doesn't necessarily make 'good', IMO. Rhianna's "Umbrella" was popular but ****, you get meh?

I never mentioned anything about them 'making' Sheffield per say (think you confuse mine with Gypo's point), they just enrich the nightlife without being 'big' nights. Hence leaving out UG et al. UG early days on a Thurs in the Fez and even before that in Brown St would apply, they've just got bigger nowadays.

Bad example as that is a tune and not a club night!!!!!!:loopy:

What you are trying to argue is the fact that small underground nights make Sheffield. The nights are popular nights in Sheffield but they do not make Sheffield famous
Jive Turkey made Sheffield noticed. (underground)
Gatecrasher (trance) made Sheffield noticed. (super club)
Love 2 Be (in the mid 90's) made Sheffield noticed. (super club)

Agent Gypo
11-08-2007, 17:20
[QUOTE=Agent Gypo;2527545]National recognition is irrelevant, even though Headcharge attracted people from all over the country.

I think that statement does not make sense. Most promoters would love to have a night that was a national success, as it probably would generate more money. I refer again to the casual phrase that one has quoted "make Sheffield"
My list stands as they are featured time and time again in books and novels. (Please read "last night a dj saved my life")

This isn't about money or popularity. I think you're missing the point I'm driving at.

I'll argue the toss later. have to go out now!

dj4321gsr
11-08-2007, 17:21
Quit the lectures mate, no need.

I think you need it. (only joking):hihi:
But quit the blasphemy then. Your nights stated do not make Sheffield. They are decent nights, lets not get carried away with the hype. At the end of the day Sheffield is still **** poor for clubbing considering the size of the city.

Chris BIO
11-08-2007, 17:25
Bad example as that is a tune and not a club night!!!!!!:loopy:



You know fine well what my point is, doesn't matter what the subject, 'popular' isn't always 'good' - The Sun, Lambrini, Judge Jules, Big Brother, P-Diddy...

yawn.

If Sheffield just relied on the nights you listed then we'd be screwed. One trick ponies, if you will (as in, the more the merrier and it ain't all about the biggest, we can't just rely on whatever the big night is at the time).

dj4321gsr
11-08-2007, 17:27
[QUOTE=dj4321gsr;2528103]

This isn't about money or popularity. I think you're missing the point I'm driving at.

I'll argue the toss later. have to go out now!

I know the point you are making.
But you are not getting my point.
The nights that you have stated do not make Sheffield. And if you are to think that it does, then why is it there are hundreds of people from Sheffield decending to Leeds and Manchester religiously every saturday night and saying Sheffield is ****e. You know that is a fact!!! Not many people talk about Sheffield as being a clubbing capital as it was once before.

Chris BIO
11-08-2007, 17:31
[QUOTE=Agent Gypo;2528127]

why is it there are hundreds of people from Sheffield decending to Leeds and Manchester religiously every saturday night and saying Sheffield is ****e. You know that is a fact!!! Not many people talk about Sheffield as being a clubbing capital as it was once before.


I agree with that mate, but it doesn't make it a reason to diss what we've got. As long as we enjoy it I couldn't care less :)

I just think the best thing about Sheffield is the fact that it HAS got such cool little nights going on. I'm just the sorta guy that would rather have a basement, a dj and a red light over lazers and mixmag photographers.

I'm not disagreeing about the nights you mention, simply saying there's more to Sheff than that and it diserves the credit for it.

dj4321gsr
11-08-2007, 17:36
You know fine well what my point is, doesn't matter what the subject, 'popular' isn't always 'good' - The Sun, Lambrini, Judge Jules, Big Brother, P-Diddy...

yawn.

If Sheffield just relied on the nights you listed then we'd be screwed. One trick ponies, if you will (as in, the more the merrier and it ain't all about the biggest).

Obviously you do not know much about Sheffields clubbing history.
When did i say popular was good. The nights that I have listed were all good cool and credible nights. Just because you werent around does not mean it was not good.
And the big three nights all had different music in separate rooms.
I have already contributed 20 years and counting to massive nights and small underground nights. Not sure where you get the one trip ponies, wish you would stick to the subject. Your nights in question are good but they do not make Sheffield
UNDERSTAND
Also speak English as I have,
yuh get mi sound so neanderthal.

dj4321gsr
11-08-2007, 17:40
[QUOTE=dj4321gsr;2528157]


I agree with that mate, but it doesn't make it a reason to diss what we've got. As long as we enjoy it I couldn't care less :)

I just think the best thing about Sheffield is the fact that it HAS got such cool little nights going on. I'm just the sorta guy that would rather have a basement, a dj and a red light over lazers and mixmag photographers.

I'm not disagreeing about the nights you mention, simply saying there's more to Sheff than that and it diserves the credit for it.

Hurray, common ground here!!! as my first statement was Agree to disagree...
I have not dissed any night in Sheffield, I have merely stated they were good but dont make Sheffield. They have not got the legendary status yet, only time will tell.

markichamp
11-08-2007, 19:40
[QUOTE=dj4321gsr;2528157]

I'm just the sorta guy that would rather have a basement, a dj and a red light over lazers and mixmag photographers.

There's a tune in there somewhere chris, ha ha. They got to no.1 in south africa with it too, good on em

discodown
11-08-2007, 20:15
As often happens both Chris and 4321 are correct.

Sheffield historically has had a mixture of really popular and really underground nights that makes it work. All of the nights make sheffield what it is. sadly right now Vibe is the biggest thing nationally that sheffield has to offer.

Occasionally one of the small nights makes it big on its reputation, Jive Turkey being probably the best example.

Agent Gypo
11-08-2007, 23:20
[QUOTE=Agent Gypo;2528127]

I know the point you are making.
But you are not getting my point.
The nights that you have stated do not make Sheffield. And if you are to think that it does, then why is it there are hundreds of people from Sheffield decending to Leeds and Manchester religiously every saturday night and saying Sheffield is ****e. You know that is a fact!!! Not many people talk about Sheffield as being a clubbing capital as it was once before.

I'm not interested in whether Sheffield is seen as a "clubbing capital" or not, all that means is loads of people flock to nights that are popular.

You seem to be judge a nights' success on how many punters crawl through the door. Whether a night is popular has very little to do with how good or influential it is. More people go to generic indie and "chart classics" events than Gatecrasher, Bed, Jive Turkey, Love 2 Be and Hacienda combined. Does that make them better?

40 people attended the Free Trade Hall in 1976 for the famous Sex Pistols gig. I'm not saying the nights I've mentioned are that important, but surely you see my point?

dj4321gsr
12-08-2007, 06:45
Well I am interested in Sheffield being the clubbing capitol as it once was back in the day. It brings kudos, money and most of all respect in the music industry and to this city. I am sick of being behind Leeds, Manchester, Bristol, Newcastle.
You miss the point completely because the nights that I talk about in question were not commercial nights but the top nights in there genre of music. I have never stated the obvious leisure company crap chart music as you have often made references to.
Can you please tell me an indie night that brings in over 5000 people weekly. I know Syndicate in Blackpool draws in up to nearly 4000 people but to say a chart classics night draws in more than all these nights combined is very absurd. You obviously do not know that each night in there hey day were bringing in religiously over 1500 to 2000 people weekly. (Jive Turkey was monthly)
Not sure why the Sex Pistols gig flopped and what relevance to this debate. I am merely stating the nights such as you have mentioned are very good but not legendary enough to make Sheffield
I think you personally love the Rhianna track cos I am struggling to know why you brought it up. However I do remember a time back in the 80's when R&B / soul tracks were not played in many Sheffield clubs (Cairo Jax aside) as it was then the underground. How things have changed since then. It would have been interesting to know if you was clubbing back in the mid 80s what club you would have been going to. As there was no Scuba or C90 for you to go to. Cairo Jax did play Colonel Abraham "Trapped"
Classic garage house track all the same, oops it got popular and commercial so should we discard it and call it crap. Think not!!!

discodown
12-08-2007, 09:07
Are we behind Bristol and Newcastle? While I agree things aren't perfect we're doing pretty good. Plug, DQ, Nylon are doing good things and while none of them is a world beater at least there is choice.

Chris BIO
12-08-2007, 09:41
Well I am interested in Sheffield being the clubbing capitol as it once was back in the day. It brings kudos, money and most of all respect in the music industry and to this city. I am sick of being behind Leeds, Manchester, Bristol, Newcastle.
You miss the point completely because the nights that I talk about in question were not commercial nights but the top nights in there genre of music. I have never stated the obvious leisure company crap chart music as you have often made references to.
Can you please tell me an indie night that brings in over 5000 people weekly. I know Syndicate in Blackpool draws in up to nearly 4000 people but to say a chart classics night draws in more than all these nights combined is very absurd. You obviously do not know that each night in there hey day were bringing in religiously over 1500 to 2000 people weekly. (Jive Turkey was monthly)
Not sure why the Sex Pistols gig flopped and what relevance to this debate. I am merely stating the nights such as you have mentioned are very good but not legendary enough to make Sheffield
I think you personally love the Rhianna track cos I am struggling to know why you brought it up. However I do remember a time back in the 80's when R&B / soul tracks were not played in many Sheffield clubs (Cairo Jax aside) as it was then the underground. How things have changed since then. It would have been interesting to know if you was clubbing back in the mid 80s what club you would have been going to. As there was no Scuba or C90 for you to go to. Cairo Jax did play Colonel Abraham "Trapped"
Classic garage house track all the same, oops it got popular and commercial so should we discard it and call it crap. Think not!!!


Clubs don't have to 'make Sheffield legendary' to be a worthy addition to the scene though mate. If we take things as they stand now, UG is probably the current version of the clubs you list (big rep, big acts, top quality night etc), but it doesn't define Sheffield nightlife in 2007. We are bigger and better than one club, as good as that club is - it's the sum of all the parts that counts :)

Agent Gypo
12-08-2007, 10:42
Well I am interested in Sheffield being the clubbing capitol as it once was back in the day. It brings kudos, money and most of all respect in the music industry and to this city. I am sick of being behind Leeds, Manchester, Bristol, Newcastle.

I don't really know a great deal about what goes on in Newcastle, but I'd put Bristol way behind Sheffield. Manchester and Leeds have similar nights to Sheffield, just more of them. Granted, they have some good venues that I'd love to see here.

That said, there are very few events that interest me in Leeds, and the only thing I ever go to Manchester for is the very, very special Sequence.

My main problem though is that there are some good venues in Sheffield, but they aren't being used particularly well. The Hacienda put on a broad range of events and some impressive (and brave) line-ups. There isn't really a club here that you could call legendary. I don't think anyone could say Gatecrasher/Republic fell into that bracket either.

You miss the point completely because the nights that I talk about in question were not commercial nights but the top nights in there genre of music. I have never stated the obvious leisure company crap chart music as you have often made references to.

But you keep bringing up the importance of money for promotors. It isn't difficult to see why most clubs put on these kind of nights. The Hacienda never made any money, expensive dj's and punters who spend more on e than beer. Student cheese and indie nights are extremely profitable: Cheaper dj's and larger alcohol sales than at the events we've been talking about.

Can you please tell me an indie night that brings in over 5000 people weekly. I know Syndicate in Blackpool draws in up to nearly 4000 people but to say a chart classics night draws in more than all these nights combined is very absurd. You obviously do not know that each night in there hey day were bringing in religiously over 1500 to 2000 people weekly. (Jive Turkey was monthly)

If you read my post properly you would have noticed I didn't refer to one specific indie or chart club night. I was talking about the industry in general. So no, it isn't absurd.

Not sure why the Sex Pistols gig flopped and what relevance to this debate.

You can't see the relevance it has to this debate?

I think you personally love the Rhianna track cos I am struggling to know why you brought it up.

I didn't bring it up, and I don't like the track.

Agent Gypo
23-08-2007, 09:51
Scanning the listings for bank holiday weekend and there doesn't seem to be a lot on apart from Urban Gorilla.

What happened to all the warehouse parties!?

Cargo
23-08-2007, 09:57
This is what sheffield needs!! And some shameless promotion!!

The Cargo crew will be in Leeds next Saturday ripping out some tunes alongside probably some of the hottest nights in the country at the moment, Technique, Mono_Cult and TW_TS. The madness starts at 2pm, yes that 2 in the afternoon until midnight, then will carry on until sometime Sunday afternoon.

This event is by invite only so if you want to go get in touch, you cant just turn up either cos both venues are top secret!! For your FREE invite and to find out where the parties will be taking place text WINNER to 64446

Oh and remember to vote for Cargo in the Sheffield Bar and club awards
http://www.sheffieldbarawards.co.uk/vote/vote.htm

Chris BIO
23-08-2007, 10:06
This is what sheffield needs!! And some shameless promotion!!

The Cargo crew will be in Leeds next Saturday ripping out some tunes alongside probably some of the hottest nights in the country at the moment, Technique, Mono_Cult and TW_TS. The madness starts at 2pm, yes that 2 in the afternoon until midnight, then will carry on until sometime Sunday afternoon.

This event is by invite only so if you want to go get in touch, you cant just turn up either cos both venues are top secret!! For your FREE invite and to find out where the parties will be taking place text WINNER to 64446

Oh and remember to vote for Cargo in the Sheffield Bar and club awards
http://www.sheffieldbarawards.co.uk/vote/vote.htm

LOL - What does Sheffield need? A night out in Leeds! ha ha, class guys.

WYEXILE
23-08-2007, 10:47
And herein lies the problem. People don't put parties on for partying's sake anymore. They're either put on by promoters as their sole source of earnings or DJ's who want to make it big and ***** off to Ibiza every summer.

Sheffield needs underground parties where people can turn up, listen to some great music and have a good time without having to spend £12 getting in because people won't pay it anymore. These are the sort of events that make a 'scene'.

From an outside perspective I'd say there are too many people trying to do too many things in Sheffield at the moment and no one seems to have got it quite right. The Plug have cornered the superstar DJ market and I don't think anyone can compete with them on that score at the moment. UG has it's own niche an will always attract a good crowd. Then there are all the other nights at the smaller clubs/bars all trying to do the same thing. There also seems to be a crowd of people who put parties on just for them and their group of mates. This is blatantly obvious in the way some events are promoted on here.

I would be more than happy to promote an event where the success was not measured by how much door money I was taking home in my back pocket, but rather by how many people walked away thinking 'what a party'.

Cargo
23-08-2007, 11:28
LOL - What does Sheffield need? A night out in Leeds! ha ha, class guys.

Ha ha, ey up mate. I wasn’t saying Sheffield needs a night out in Leeds, I was sort of saying this is what Sheffield needs. Whether it would work or anyone would turn up is another thing, as a promoter and knowing Sheffield probably not.

Were really lucky to be involved in party next week, its just a shame we have to travel up the road for it to be appreciated.

Agent Gypo
23-08-2007, 12:05
You lot think things in Sheffield are bad? Try living in Chester.... The only clubs here are Reflex 80's Bar and Brannigans.

Chris BIO
23-08-2007, 16:19
Ha ha, ey up mate. I wasn’t saying Sheffield needs a night out in Leeds, I was sort of saying this is what Sheffield needs. Whether it would work or anyone would turn up is another thing, as a promoter and knowing Sheffield probably not.

Were really lucky to be involved in party next week, its just a shame we have to travel up the road for it to be appreciated.


I was only messing but I agree entirely with the sentiment buddy. There's been nothing in Sheff that's got me REALLY excited since Justin Long at DQ. And speaking of Leeds - you lot off to see Adam Beyer then?

Agent Gypo
23-08-2007, 23:55
Sheffield needs the Sequence/Computer Controlled lot to come over from Manchester. Please.

Just been looking at past headliners: Black Dog, Luke Vibert, DMX Krew, Ceephax Acid Crew, Surgeon, Ben Simms, Rob Hall, Clark, Billy Nasty, LFO, Autechre, Clark, Boxcutter, Vector Lovers, A Guy Called Gerald, Cylob, B12, Neil Landstrumm, Vex'd....

Cargo
24-08-2007, 08:26
I was only messing but I agree entirely with the sentiment buddy. There's been nothing in Sheff that's got me REALLY excited since Justin Long at DQ. And speaking of Leeds - you lot off to see Adam Beyer then?

Ha ha I know you was mate. Keep your ear to the ground in the next month or so though as we have something lined up I think will excite you.

A quarter of team cargo will be at Adam Beyer tonight in the form of The Johnson, we were all supposed to be going but we’re there all next weekend too.

welchiewelch
05-09-2007, 11:06
Hehe - i love posts like this....eternal.....i reckon the sheff forum controllers just occasionally post "What does Sheffield need ?" or "Is Sheffield's nightlife going downhill?" and let it roll !!!!

phat_house
05-09-2007, 12:32
Hehe - i love posts like this....eternal.....i reckon the sheff forum controllers just occasionally post "What does Sheffield need ?" or "Is Sheffield's nightlife going downhill?" and let it roll !!!!

Well perhaps they do...but this thread was started by me and i can asure you i am not a controller of the sheffield forum.

Bago
09-09-2007, 23:30
Where are the underground warehouse parties when there are so many warehouses?! It does not make sense, it's odd isn't it ?

I remember my auntie telling me once that Sheffield was *buzzing* in her youth. Where has that gone.... ?? :hihi:

Music is a funny thing, it moves in waves. Catch a wave, and you feel like you're on top of the world for that moment in time.

It's so odd to hear people talk about Sheffield like this, as I never associated or seen Sheffield this way at all. Every bars/clubs are now too clean cut, that bit cleaner, that bit more commercial. Saying that, if it isn't that way, it would not be in business at all.

And herein lies the problem. People don't put parties on for partying's sake anymore.

Give people what they want, and they will come. I suppose you have to catch the crowd and groom them into this type of music to begin with. I suppose if you're a music fanatic, you'll appreciate some of the music development that went on with some of the DJs....

cjthedj2
10-09-2007, 09:06
me and my dad had a convo about this the other dad and we was saying we want a pub/club to go 2 where any age can litsen to any music like us youger croweds to come and lisern to clasic 70's ect and older crowed to lisern to newer stuff in the same room and even let under 18's in [not 2 drink thought]

cjthedj2
10-09-2007, 09:08
me and my dad are djs and we play for all ages like i said and they love it

we have been told they want djs like us in the town center lol

grownsy
10-09-2007, 09:31
me and my dad are djs and we play for all ages like i said and they love it

we have been told they want djs like us in the town center lol

Cooollll, Have you got agadoo?

Bago
10-09-2007, 09:58
Green Room is like that. A mixture of old classics and new. With CDs like "Watching the Girls Go By" being so popular, there is scope to play similar classic songs which crosses generational gaps.

tomarse
10-09-2007, 11:41
more good pubs!!! all the pubs that have any sort of class and atmosphere are being removed... and replaced with more pretentious student bars with no style whatsoever.. Why is the brown bear gone :(:(:(:(:(

WYEXILE
10-09-2007, 12:06
Looks like what Sheffield needs is October 5th. Talk about good things coming in three's!!!!

Plug - Felix da Housecat
DQ - Tayo's tracksuit party
Undone - Sheffields best venue + serious house music

I'm sure there's a bit of something there for everyone. I'll be heading down to the Fez as I've had many a good night down there before. What about everyone else?

discodown
10-09-2007, 12:39
Plug are really doing the business these days. FDH is a great booking.

I'll be at the fez however. An opportunity to party in the loft again is too good to miss. that venue is the closest thing to feeling like a house party in the city

grownsy
10-09-2007, 13:21
Plug are really doing the business these days. FDH is a great booking.

I'll be at the fez however. An opportunity to party in the loft again is too good to miss. that venue is the closest thing to feeling like a house party in the city

Agreed....!! not missing it for the world!

dimitrysoul
10-09-2007, 14:35
I would be more than happy to promote an event where the success was not measured by how much door money I was taking home in my back pocket, but rather by how many people walked away thinking 'what a party'.

Its still the way I gauge the success of a Hustle party...any money made is viewed as a way to pay for the previous month's party.

markichamp
10-09-2007, 19:12
Where were you house heads last Sat with 'keep in time' bringing in the quality again with Daco 'n' Stokes soundsystem, live. Ace!

Cargo
14-09-2007, 15:35
I know what Sheffield needs!!

How about a small room, namely the Earth Room at Plug, no nonsense, no fancy lighting, an ultra sweet sound system and house music all night long!! Maybe some Cargo and Grounded residents thrown in for good measure, oh some bloke called:

Jesse Rose

Friday 2nd November. Be there!!

grownsy
14-09-2007, 16:30
Nice one!!!!

julado
14-09-2007, 16:50
Cooollll, Have you got agadoo?

and choco-latte!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahp7md-91gk

poppygirl
14-07-2008, 10:01
What are you all going on about.....Sheffield IS ALREADY an amazing night out. I was out this saturday...went all around Sheff with the girls...no trouble...went to Embrace and had a top night out...no trouble and went home...didnt see any fights....and loved the music and vibe in embrace...what more does a girl need!!!! popsxx:)

Paulmat
14-07-2008, 11:00
Sorry pops, but if you think Embrace is all we need you must be a little mad ;)

poppygirl
14-07-2008, 11:14
I didnt say that...I just said that Sheffield has a great night out, if you are looking for just a good safe nightout the town centre has loads to offer.

The problem is alot of people have their heads so far up their own arses that they are always looking for something cool...whats cool?? I dont like Hed Kandi cos I dont know any of the songs they play...I dont like any of the "cool" clubs cos I cant sing along to the songs. If I want a good and more importantly good night out with the girls, I stick to the town centre and then Embrace where i know every song.

What is wrong with that!! popsx:)

timcobbold
14-07-2008, 11:29
plug dominates the dance scene in this city far too much these days. I appreciate they put on a wide variety of nights but they do seem to have a bit of a stranglehold.....bring back the arches!

troymclure
14-07-2008, 11:35
Spot on poppygirl.....as much as 2000 others agree with you every saturday!!! u can't mention Embrace as its commercial!!!!! I was at Hed Kandi on Sat, complete Garbage, no production, nothing to justify the £15 it cost to get in, and no customers.....i'm off to Embrace next saturday too as i'm not stuck up my own backside and when i've had a shndy i just wanna have a good time with like minded people. take ur empty, serious, i love my music, underground nonsense and stick it where the sun don't shine, gimme a party on a saturday night

Paulmat
14-07-2008, 11:44
I didnt say that...I just said that Sheffield has a great night out, if you are looking for just a good safe nightout the town centre has loads to offer.

The problem is alot of people have their heads so far up their own arses that they are always looking for something cool...whats cool?? I dont like Hed Kandi cos I dont know any of the songs they play...I dont like any of the "cool" clubs cos I cant sing along to the songs. If I want a good and more importantly good night out with the girls, I stick to the town centre and then Embrace where i know every song.

What is wrong with that!! popsx:)

Nothing's wrong with that :) I'm just not a big fan of Embrace ;)

green
14-07-2008, 11:51
plug dominates the dance scene in this city far too much these days. I appreciate they put on a wide variety of nights but they do seem to have a bit of a stranglehold.....bring back the arches!

You have loads of other great venues aswell you know....Penelopes/Shakespeare (kabal im told was fantastic and busting at the seems on saturday)/DQ/Harley theres loads if you look around...

Please dont be a hater of Plug......:(

timcobbold
14-07-2008, 13:02
I wouldn't say i'm a hater of Plug, been to many great nights there, both dj's and to see bands. It can't be denied that it does have a bit of a monopoly on big nights and names at the weekend though and is pretty commercially minded. It has the ability to run three nights simultaneously if it wants too.
you are right though Green Penelope's is cool, DQ attracts a few too many posers for me but good tunes are there, lots of good stuff like Tinnitus going on at the Red House and other small venues all over the place.

poppygirl
14-07-2008, 13:41
We did go in Plug a couple of months ago, but to be honest we felt so threatended in there, We dont like getting drugged up to the eyballs, we like just having a good time, some laughs and a few drinks

Each to our own I suppose. We will all be out in embrace next week..watch out for the girls in too-toos! lol popsxx:)

timcobbold
14-07-2008, 13:43
[QUOTE=poppygirl;3778467]We did go in Plug a couple of months ago, but to be honest we felt so threatended in there, We dont like getting drugged up to the eyballs, we like just having a good time, some laughs and a few drinks

yeah, you gotta watch out for those ravers, they might hug you to death!:bigsmile:

poppygirl
14-07-2008, 13:51
he he I suppose, but you just dont know these days. We are in our early twentys and like a drink or two but dont do drugs, we seems to be in a minority in clubs like Plug or nights like Hed Kandi.

Ill stick to the K2 and dance like a nutter to sexy rnb in Embrace lol

popsxx:)

for389
14-07-2008, 15:41
It needs a really nice venue. I would love to see a super club with a massive capacity that doesn't rely on pop cheese!

troymclure
14-07-2008, 15:54
There is not a large capacity nightclub in the country, by which i mean over 2000 that doesn't play 'pop' seeing as pop stands for ' popular' music.
if sheffield cannot fill medium sized specialist venue's....how will it fill large ones.
not having a dig, just stating fact, pop is so broad now, most rnb, commercial dance and indie is 'pop' and by definition will be heard in most rooms of a commercial city centre venue.
pop doesn't have to be cheese but each to their own, it would take a brave man to open a 2000 capacity venue and NOT play pop!!!
just a thought

Rossian
14-07-2008, 16:05
There is not a large capacity nightclub in the country, by which i mean over 2000 that doesn't play 'pop' seeing as pop stands for ' popular' music.


London has Fabric, Ministry of Sound, Turmills and Canvas (although the last 2 have closed down now) - all over 2000. But these work because of they're in London - I agree venues of these size would never work outside London.

At the end of that day, you can't have a go at poppygirl for liking what she likes.

discodown
14-07-2008, 17:02
it would take a brave man to open a 2000 capacity venue and NOT play pop!!!
just a thoughtEven if they did they wouldn't stay open long. You'd need some serious cash to support the business until you could make money

Rah Rah Rah
14-07-2008, 17:41
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dj4321gsr
14-07-2008, 23:37
London has Fabric, Ministry of Sound, Turmills and Canvas (although the last 2 have closed down now) - all over 2000. But these work because of they're in London - I agree venues of these size would never work outside London.

At the end of that day, you can't have a go at poppygirl for liking what she likes.

Ministry play pop on some nights. They even have a tour called Big Tunes.

Sparx
19-07-2008, 08:45
What Sheffield needs?
1. Less knuckle dragging dick head beer monsters all wearing the same shirt which amazingly doesnt look right on anyone you see it on. :)

2.The fashion Police.

3.Free cattle prods to get those ignorant obnoxious turds to move, y'know, those dicks (usually some shortarse baldy) that know you're there & you need to get past them & they just wont move, like theyre nailed to the floor? Geezus wept, ...better still make pistol whipping legal and a national sport or write to the local MP & petition for baldy midgets with super glue footwear to be made illegal with immediate effect :)

timcobbold
24-07-2008, 13:09
Fashion Police? that way we'll all just look like tight jeaned, austin powers haircutted, indie clones!

Paulmat
24-07-2008, 14:32
3.Free cattle prods to get those ignorant obnoxious turds to move, y'know, those dicks (usually some shortarse baldy) that know you're there & you need to get past them & they just wont move, like theyre nailed to the floor? Geezus wept, ...better still make pistol whipping legal and a national sport or write to the local MP & petition for baldy midgets with super glue footwear to be made illegal with immediate effect :)

That one's easy. Just say 'excuse me' loud in their ear while gently shoving them out of the way, then if they start just say 'cheers mate' and walk off. :thumbsup:

imagematters
29-07-2008, 12:50
Do not worry all your wishes are about to be answered The Second Coming Club Shhhh

jy001
30-07-2008, 14:40
Acid techno :D...ok I know there's not exactly a popular demand for it..but I definately think there should be some more acid techno nights like headcharge or something like leed's riff raff. It seems a lot of the underground dance nights are focused mainly on psy-trance..which I like but would be nice to mix it up a bit. After planet zogg's recent 'free party' at plug doing a mainly acid techno night and it was PACKED..(whether it's due to the acid techno or the freeness im not sure!?)

Anyway...in reference to the above post about the arches re-opening Im hoping there may be some heading our way :)

Aside from that we could do with more ska/punk nights :D

JohnM
30-07-2008, 22:13
After planet zogg's recent 'free party' at plug doing a mainly acid techno night and it was PACKED..(whether it's due to the acid techno or the freeness im not sure!?)

Although it was great to hear some acid techno - I'm pretty certain it was more the magic "free" word that brought in over 800 people!

:)

It weird that psy fans tend to think of zogg as a techno night and techno folk seem to think of it as a psy night - I think people get confused when you mix up genres - but its always worked well for zogg...

:)

Anyway...in reference to the above post about the arches re-opening Im hoping there may be some heading our way :)

I'd seen a post about Club Shush - but did I miss one about *The* Arches re-opening?

jy001
31-07-2008, 07:32
Unfortunately im sure it was mainly the free part :( ..I know why i went though :)

I wasnt just referring to zogg being more psy based..I know you mix it up & I've never had a bad night there or been disappointed with the music as such...but I still wouldnt say it's a 50/50 divide between techno & psy..but all that depends on the night & what dj's are on I guess..maybe I've just happened to have stumbled in on the less technoish nights!

Either way I'd like to see a night that's at least 90% techno :) But that's just me..

When I said 'the arches' I meant the large arches (formerly called Void I think)...there's a post about it down the page, 'the second coming of club shushh' it's called. But not open till end of the yr by the looks of it.

JohnM
31-07-2008, 08:19
Unfortunately im sure it was mainly the free part :( ..I know why i went though :).

Well hopefuly the night attracted a few as well! In fact it was great to see so many new faces and some faces not seen for many a year ...

I wasnt just referring to zogg being more psy based..I know you mix it up & I've never had a bad night there or been disappointed with the music as such...but I still wouldnt say it's a 50/50 divide between techno & psy..but all that depends on the night & what dj's are on I guess..maybe I've just happened to have stumbled in on the less technoish nights!

Either way I'd like to see a night that's at least 90% techno :) But that's just me...

Glad you enjoy the night...

re: acid techno - I think a lot has to do with who is making music just now. Zogg started as very much a techno-trance night (in the London style of the day - late 90s) - as the years have gone by that scene has pretty much gone - as have many of its similar styles - not that many people make acid techno any more and very few places play it ( locally Riffraff tends to go for a more hard NRG style - and, its been a while since i've been, but I though Headcharge played more that style as well these days). Whereas the psy scene has really taken off since the early 00s and there's lots of different sorts of stuff being produced - which is probably why so many places (relatively speaking) are now playing it - but Zogg has always gone for the tougher, energy side of the spectrum and you wont get too much wibbly wobbly nonsense! Plus we do mix it up and people like Mobile Dogwash are regular guests - which always seems to work well...

When I said 'the arches' I meant the large arches .

ahhh.. for anyone of a certian age *the arches* is very different to the large arches - though good luck to the Club Shush crew.

Anyway.. I'm off to Shamania this year and am looking forward to seeing all the Sheffield crew plus Chris Liberator & DAVE the Drummer for some 303 mayhem!


cheers

John

jy001
31-07-2008, 08:57
Ah..well I'm 20 and I've only been in Sheffield about a year & a half so no I have no idea what 'the arches' are! ...Im intrigued though??

Have a good one at Shamania. No festivals for me this year :(..festival money has had to be exchanged for moving into a new place & a trip to marrakech...altho I will be at music in the sun this weekend so I get a mini fest & some headchargeness :)

WYEXILE
31-07-2008, 09:10
Gotta say I'm looking ofrward to the return of Club Sssh as it is Sheffields only 'proper' underground venue. Here's hoping there are promoters out there willing to give it some 'proper' underground nights.

timcobbold
31-07-2008, 10:38
ah. *the arches* (the real ones!), I'm sure I had fun there but strangely a lot of the memories are a little fuzzy.......

Colonel
31-07-2008, 10:47
It needs a mini golf course. And a huge indoor go cart track in the centre of town.

Would be nice.

It does need a nice new macdonalds cus that one is Urgh

JohnM
31-07-2008, 11:23
Ah..well I'm 20 and I've only been in Sheffield about a year & a half so no I have no idea what 'the arches' are! ...Im intrigued though??

The Arches was a legendary Sheffield venue under the same viaduct as Club Shush but at the end of Walker St (on the left just off the Wicker before the viaduct). It was basically two railway arches and not a lot else and was the main Sheffield "underground" dance venue from the early 90s through to it eventually shutting in 2005. A lot of nights had passed through there (including Gatecrasher before its epic trance days) - though for its final few years its only two regular nights were Headcharge and Planet Zogg.

It holds a lot of fond memories for folk and it's amazing how many people know each other from "the corridor at the Arches".

bsm_ok1
11-08-2008, 21:43
Well it is getting an indoor golf bar! 1 out of 2 isn't bad.