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This coming Sunday would you consider letting me have it. Can't bring myself to buy the paper, not to my political taste. Not a meany, honest! S11 would be great then I could collect on foot. This may be a big ask of course!
A Prince CD, in the Mail, have they actually listed to any of his songs ?
It's his new tour songs which he'll be performing at the 02 stadium next month. I think the only way it can be obtained is if you buy concert tickets and it's included in the price of the ticket or Mail on Sunday. Seeing that I'm too old to go to his concert (altho have been to most!) and am left wing and won't buy Mail on principle, I thought I might ask kind Forumers!!
Somebody might be kind enough to do a zip file & 'yousendit' & message the links to other users, so as to avoid multiple humiliation.
Buy the paper, keep the CD and recycle the paper...
That's if you can get a copy of the paper of course. I have a feeling 2.8m copies of the album will be on eBay come Monday morning...
Just a 'yes' as a reply would be good thanks! No need to enter into 'chat room' replies!
Tartempion 13-07-2007, 16:18 This coming Sunday would you consider letting me have it. Can't bring myself to buy the paper, not to my political taste. Not a meany, honest! S11 would be great then I could collect on foot. This may be a big ask of course!
Yes I have the same problem. Think I'm going to have to just buy it and try not to become enraged by the headlines though. I wonder why he chose (if indeed he did choose) that particular paper..?
carcrash 13-07-2007, 17:18 Mail on Sunday: 'include Prince CD in chart'
Prince: the Mail on Sunday is set to distribute 2.9m copies with the star's Planet Earth CD included for free.
The Mail on Sunday has threatened legal action over its unprecedented giveaway of Prince's new album Planet Earth to try and force it into the official music charts.
MediaGuardian.co.uk has seen a copy of a letter the Mail on Sunday managing director, Stephen Miron, sent this week to the Official UK Charts Company, demanding it include Planet Earth in its albums chart.
On Sunday the MoS will distribute 2.9m copies with the Planet Earth CD included for free, after paying about £250,000 to Prince for the licence.
An extra 200,000 copies of the paper will be printed without the CD for foreign and bulk sales.
The Mail on Sunday sells 2.3m copies each weekend, according to the latest ABC figures.
Producing and marketing the Prince CD will add several hundred thousand pounds to the MoS's costs, pushing the total bill for the Associated Newspapers title's promotional gambit towards £1m.
"We are spending a fortune on this," said Mr Miron.
In the letter to the Official UK Charts Company, Mr Miron wrote: "Given our belief that this album should still be included on the official UK album charts and having responded to your issues, I would urge you to reconsider your previous position as a matter of urgency, before we engage our lawyers for legal advice to force a challenge to this restraint on our trade."
The Official UK Charts Company has refused to enter the album Planet Earth on its chart, saying it could not prove that newspaper sales were "genuine consumer purchases" and that it could not audit sales accurately.
"It's denying Prince his rights," Mr Miron told MediaGuardian.co.uk. "It will be number one in the UK chart and we think that's something that he should be able to do.
"The fact that they are referring back to rules put in place ages ago doesn't seem to fit with the way the music industry is now. I think they are mad."
Mr Miron said that legal action was not inevitable. "We are just considering our position with that at the moment really," he added.
Prince will also receive royalties from each copy of the Mail on Sunday sold in addition to the licence fee.
"Prince would not be able to get as much money by selling this record in shops than he will with this deal," Mr Miron said.
He added that despite the enormous expense of the promotion, whether it was profitable for the paper depended on how many copies the Mail on Sunday sold his weekend. "It may be the best value promotion that we have ever done," he said.
Already news of the alliance between the paper and the recording star has featured on the BBC Six O'Clock News and in the New York Times. Advertisers are crowding into the paper as a result, according to Mr Miron.
For the first time, music chain HMV will sell the newspaper after initially complaining about the promotion.
An edition of the MoS containing a giveaway of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells album earlier this year sold 2.6m copies, while the edition that carried news of the death of Diana, Princess of Wales in 1997 sold 2.8m copies.
When Prince's UK record company Sony BMG found out about the MoS's promotion, it suspended the release of the album.
The deal was negotiated between the Mail on Sunday, Prince's manager Paul Gongaware, and Rob Hallet, an executive with entertainment company AEG, the major redevelopers of the Millennium Dome, now known as the O2, where the artist will be performing later this year.
Agent Simon Stanford of Upfront Promotions set up the deal, which will see the CD and the CD cover incorporate the Mail on Sunday logo.
The Entertainment Retailers Association, whose members account for more than 90% of retail sales of CDs in the UK and which half owns the Official UK Charts Company, has protested to the Audit Bureau of Circulations in an attempt to get it to discount the sales boost from the paper's circulation results.
"We believe that this promotion and others like it potentially distort the accuracy of ABC's audit in a way which could mislead advertisers and other users of your data," wrote the ERA secretary general, Kim Bayley.
The MoS was offering an incentive to purchase worth up to seven times the £1.40 cover price of the newspaper, the ERA said.
"These people are desperate people," Mr Miron responded.
The ABC did not release a comment responding to the ERA, but will audit the paper to the agreed industry standards.
Really clever bit of music marketing. Prince gets his album out to 2.5 million people most of whom won't have heard his music before or at least not his newer stuff, the MOS gets increased ad revenue and exposure, the O2 arena gets increased ticket sales for the 21 gigs that Prince is doing there and it's another nail in the coffin of companies like HMV
got my copy this morning:)
matsalleh 15-07-2007, 07:38 This coming Sunday would you consider letting me have it. Can't bring myself to buy the paper, not to my political taste. Not a meany, honest! S11 would be great then I could collect on foot. This may be a big ask of course!
Think you are buying the CD and chuck the (free) paper away, or find a use for it.
upinwath 15-07-2007, 07:47 A solution
Buy the mail
Enjoy the CD (or not if it's crap)
Cut the mail up into five inch squares and thread a string through it.
Hang it up in the bog and use it in the way it deserves. :D
I wonder why he chose (if indeed he did choose) that particular paper..?
Crap artist = crap paper.
Crap artist = crap paper.
Indeed.
See my comments in the "what's wrong with the Daily Mail?" thread.
And Mr Contrite IS the new Bartfarst IMO... But I'm sure the Mods won't do anything about him, I reported him twice yesterday for trolling and generally being offensive.
carcrash 15-07-2007, 12:50 Crap artist = crap paper.
Are you the rabid Michael Jackson fan? Prince has put out some duff albums but at his best he's up there with the best of them
Indeed.
See my comments in the "what's wrong with the Daily Mail?" thread.
And Mr Contrite IS the new Bartfarst IMO... But I'm sure the Mods won't do anything about him, I reported him twice yesterday for trolling and generally being offensive.
I've noticed that too mate....Conrite will always be sure to pop up if theres a chance to do some good old slagging off of ethnic/asian/indian/pakistani people.
Are you the rabid Michael Jackson fan? Prince has put out some duff albums but at his best he's up there with the best of them
Doesn't come anywhere near the King of Pop.
Doesn't come anywhere near the King of Pop.
dont you mean the king of pap ?
dont you mean the king of pap ? Theres a surprise, to see old panda pops turn up in a conversation about Michael Jackson and slag him off!
So, very original and not boring, expected, witless, unfunny etc...at all panda! :thumbsup:
Theres a surprise, to see old panda pops turn up in a conversation about Michael Jackson and slag him off!
So, very original and not boring, expected, witless, unfunny etc...at all panda! :thumbsup:
calm down lestat dont get your fanboy panties in a twist:loopy::loopy::loopy:
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Got my copy, am listening to it as I type.
Its very good!!!!!!!!:D
I wouldn't even use the Mail as bog roll and that's all it's good for.
carmencarter 15-07-2007, 14:28 Wanted the album, but can't buy the daily mail...would feel hypocritical after constantly slagging that paper off on and outside the forum...
Love Prince though!
Wanted the album, but can't buy the daily mail...would feel hypocritical after constantly slagging that paper off on and outside the forum...
Love Prince though!
just buy the paper keep the cd throw the paper away or give it someone 1.40 is cheap for a full album or you could get a copy when he plays shows in london next month
:)
There are hundreds of these free CD's already on E-Bay.....and people are actually bidding on them! My OH got his free one today...and the unread paper will be used in the only way it is fit.....as bedding for my ratties. :D
About time they had an interesting artist instead of the likes of 'the rat pack' sammy davies jnr and those others who sang like they were talking.
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