i am a undergraduate from China and i want to study Msc Sport Management in Sheffield next year. Both of the University of Sheffield and the Sheffield Hallam University have this course, i don't konw which one is better, could you please give me some advice or specific information, thank you!

sheffield university by far!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by alex022321
i am a undergraduate from China and i want to study Msc Sport Management in Sheffield next year. Both of the University of Sheffield and the Sheffield Hallam University have this course, i don't konw which one is better, could you please give me some advice or specific information, thank you!

For a vocational type course I'd suspect Hallam is better, but thats a bit of a generalisation, and I'm not sure how valid it is now.

Alex I think this is a bit of a contraversial issue and you will get very mixed views! Both universities have good and bad points.

Try having a look at this site
http://www.thegooduniversityguide.co.uk

Has a good section where you can customise the table to your specific criteria

Incidentally this was developed by a University of Sheffield student ;)

http://www.shef.ac.uk/mediacentre/2004/250.html

Sheffield Hallam is a "new" university often derided as a polyversity. Was Sheffield City Polytechic a decade ago. And as such will always have a less impressive reputation than Sheffield University. I myself am a graduate of Sheffield Polytechnic. But was not clever enough to get into Sheffield University when I was 18.

If you are a high achiever, and you can get into a course at Sheffield University I would choose that one.

I agree with many of the points for both sides but Sheffield Hallam reputedly has the most up to date facilities or at least that is what I have been lead to believe.

I sense an outbreak of "mine is better than yours" coming on...
I work for the University of Sheffield and it does have a very good reputation, both in terms of academia and as a research establishment. However, I think that Sheffield Hallam University is probably the best place for a vocational type degree course as they work very closely with industry and have various well established contacts (I am applying for a course there myself, so no bias obviously!!!!). Also, their facilities are up to date as a result of the large amount of government money they got to convert from a polytechnic to a University.

There is a stigma that the cleverer students go to The University of Sheffield, and Sheffield Hallam is a fallback if grades were not as expected, but I think your choice would have to depend on the particulars of the course, as both are good Uni's in their own field!

i'm a student at sheffield uni, but for sports management i'd recomend sheffield hallam as they do better vocational degrees and have better facilities for sports.

I graduated from Sheffield Uni with a degree in Software Engineering. In our company we've interviewed people with Computer Science related degrees from Hallam and we've not been impressed.

It's my opinion that Sheffield Uni turns out better educated graduates than Hallam does.

Originally posted by ptigga
I graduated from Sheffield Uni with a degree in Software Engineering. In our company we've interviewed people with Computer Science related degrees from Hallam and we've not been impressed.

It's my opinion that Sheffield Uni turns out better educated graduates than Hallam does.

That's fair enough, but Hallam is better for some degrees than Shef Uni, and vice versa. And if take into account other things, Hallam has a good reputation for sports, Shef uni has a good reputation for research. Hallam has better IT facilities, Shef Uni has a better Union. Swings and roundabouts.
And although there was a stigma about Hallam being an ex-polytechnic, it is being forgotten.
And it is not just about education for a lot of people. I went to Sheffield uni (Hallam do not do my course), but have several friends who went to Hallam for things like sports facilities, not just as a fall-back.

Realistically the best uni is the one that has the subjects that suit your desired career or learning curve. Nobody can really tell you which uni is going to be better than the other if one is going to suit the career that you want to have. Many IT/Science/Psychology degrees have small differences that separate them from other uni's. Choose the one that suits the subjects that you want to do and the destinations you want to go to.

http://forum.lucidnow.com

Originally posted by ptigga
I graduated from Sheffield Uni with a degree in Software Engineering. In our company we've interviewed people with Computer Science related degrees from Hallam and we've not been impressed.

It's my opinion that Sheffield Uni turns out better educated graduates than Hallam does.

Well the research I did before I chose my University came up with Hallam being a LOT better than almost every University in the UK for computing courses, it's renowned around Europe for its computing courses... almost every placement student for Sun Microsystems is from Hallam Uni ;) it has a HUGE rep in MANY major companies, I should know... I've been applying to tons of them and they all openly admit that Sheffield Hallam chruns out some excellant students

at the end of the day though, your only going to do good if you want to do good and put the effort in... you could have the best tutors in the world, but if you cant be arsed, you'll still fail :P

As for Hallam VS Sheffield for sports... I'm not too sure, I know Hallam has some good facilities, I use the gym and some of the other things quite regular, but I don't know about the courses they do

Originally posted by xafier
Well the research I did before I chose my University came up with Hallam being a LOT better than almost every University in the UK for computing courses, it's renowned around Europe for its computing courses... almost every placement student for Sun Microsystems is from Hallam Uni ;) it has a HUGE rep in MANY major companies, I should know... I've been applying to tons of them and they all openly admit that Sheffield Hallam chruns out some excellant students

I'm not doubting that Hallam does turn out good students, but from the experiences we've had candidates were unable to answer questions on database theory and big O notation. They also seemed to subscribe to the cookbook style of programming where you copy code from other places without knowing how it really works.

That's in stark contrast to Sheffield Uni where I graduated with an excellent understanding of many aspect of computer science theory and a fair bit of sound practical experience too. I would highly recommend the Software Engineering course at Sheffield University to anyone. It's packed full of interesting modules and for the most part taught by very good and respected lectureres (such as Noel Sharkey of Robot Wars fame).

If you want to be an academic or go into research go to the university, if on the other hand you want a vocational course go for the polyversity.

I currently work at the uni and have been to both the uni and polyversity for so I hope I can be relatively unbiased in my assessment!

I actually think it was a bad move the poly converting university status as it went from being a first rank and highly respected poly to a third rank and looked down upon university :o

Ptigga,

You are making the mistake of generalising from the particular, something you should be taught to avoid in your first weeks at university. Sheffield Hallam is a very large and diverse institution (currently with almost 30,000 students) with a wide range of vocational courses. The questioner is asking about courses in Sports Management, not Computing. Do you have any knowledge of these? Like all academic institutions, Sheffield Hallam (and indeed Sheffield uni) is no doubt stronger in some disciplines than others.

What can be said though as a sound generalisation is that Sheffield Hallam students are more likely to have work experience when they graduate, as most of SHU degrees have a placement element (on undergraduate degrees of usually one year).

evildrniell (or whatever your name is),

You are talking complete rubbish. The fact that you use the pejorative term 'polyversity' (whatever that is) shows that you are anything but unbiased in your opinion - and I also have personal knowledge of both institutions.