does ur personalittly suit your starsign or is it a totel no no
i am a leo and i am a careing warm bubbly person so what i heard thats right for a leo

I do not believe that star signs mean anything.

But, if anyone could explain to me a mechanism that they might work by, I have an open enough mind to listen to the explanation. I have never heard any explanation as to how it might work, and I'd be interested to know if there is one (it doesn't have to be full and/or scientific, just a hint would be interesting.

im aquarius and when i do read them - i teng to be more pisces or gemini - therefore think they are pants. saying that, i dont personally know a horoscope writer, i suppose you get good ones and bad ones - like womans own, new woman etc... think they are just made up to make u feel good about yourself - thinking that do they just work on the feel good factor??

Yeah, the way I think it works is that people who believe in them tend to subconciously adapt their personality to meet what they think it should be based on their starsign.

But, as I've said, if someone can offer a better explanation I would be seroiusly interested to hear it.

They're just a way to pass on sensible advice to non-sensible people :P.

I particulary enjoy the horoscopes in "Metro" which I am conviced are written to provide a kick up the arse for the "astrologers" close personal friends - some of the advice is just tooo specific! :loopy: :rolleyes:

Is it just coincidence that it tends to be women that believe in them??

All star signs are out by 1 though.

The constellations were mapped 2 thousand odd years ago and since then a process called precession will have altered their position in relation to earth. So I should really be a Gemini and not Cancer. Quite fitting really as I am a twin!

M

I love the ones where they say "Friday will bring all Leo's something special..ring 0906......for more details".
How many gullable people ring the numbers??

I'm a very typical cancerian, Home loving, animal mad, sensative. and love being near or in water.

Love anything made of fur, but prefer it to be still on the animal, if i see any thing with fur on i have to touch it,

not only are the star signs out but the horoscopes will only hit a few in a few hundred million.

I am quite like my star sign and also my chinese year sign thing too.

Moon

I don't believe in the horoscopes.

However, sometimes the things written in magazines (that I sometimes read for fun) to apply to me....strange :?

Originally posted by IanMitchell
I don't believe in the horoscopes.

However, sometimes the things written in magazines (that I sometimes read for fun) to apply to me....strange :?
Not strange. But if you print off a certain sentence saying something will happen, give then number of people that fall under that star sign then its bound to seem right to you at one time or the other.
Kinda reminds me of the Infinity Theory involving monkeys. (see Ricky Gervais Politics DVD).
If you have an infinite number of monkeys using a typewriter for an infinite time then somewhere in all the letters type wil be the entire works of Shakespeare.

Originally posted by wibbles
If you have an infinite number of monkeys using a typewriter for an infinite time then somewhere in all the letters type will be the entire works of Shakespeare.

I think the advent of the internet has proved this not to be true ;)

Anyway, here a joke RFC...

The Infinite Monkey Protocol Suite (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2795.html)

and if you really want to try out the idea look here :

The Monkey Shakespeare Generator (http://user.tninet.se/~ecf599g/aardasnails/java/Monkey/webpages/)

Nomme

It is only a theory..and can't really be proven either way.

I believe that the position of the planets can effect our personalities and moods, but i think that horoscopes and a load of poop

Originally posted by nomme
The Monkey Shakespeare Generator (http://user.tninet.se/~ecf599g/aardasnails/java/Monkey/webpages/)

Nomme

Now that I like - especially their best result so far:

23 letters from "Timon of Athens" after 12,514,200 billion billion billion monkey-years. Sent in by David Burrow on 6 Dec 2004. "Poet. Good day Sir FhlOiX5a]OM,MlGtUGSxX4IfeHQbktQ..." matched "Poet. Good day Sir Pain. I am glad y'are well Poet. I haue not seene you long, how goes the World? Pain. It weares sir, as it growes...

When I read my horoscopes, they normally seem to have something fairly accurate for me (Scorpio). Strange thing is, if I pretend I'm any other of the star signs they seem equally accurate. I think they are deliberately vague, and a load of bunkum. :)

Star signs don't really exist anyway, the 'star sign' people refer to should properly be called a 'Sun sign' as it is based on the position of the sun in your birth chart!

Birth charts are virtually unique, as they include the positions of all major planetary bodies passing overhead when you're born. They 'work' much better in my experience!

Having said that, my Sun sign is Aquarius and I'm definitely eccentric...!

Going to stop talking now cos this post would otherwise be enourmous!! Anyone want more info (or a birth chart) PM me!!

Originally posted by Agent Dan
Star signs don't really exist anyway, the 'star sign' people refer to should properly be called a 'Sun sign' as it is based on the position of the sun in your birth chart!

Birth charts are virtually unique, as they include the positions of all major planetary bodies passing overhead when you're born. They 'work' much better in my experience!


As I understand Astrology, the usual daily/weekly horoscope columns in newspapers are referring to general Trends for your sun sign as a whole, and as such are not much use for providing individuals with any real guidance. They're just a bit of fun/fluff really for most people.

In any case, the sun sign is only a small part of your astrological make-up - an important part, certainly, but one among many.

Where astrology comes into its own with individuals is with the Birth Chart, as Agent Dan says. This is your exact time, place and date of birth, and is unique to every person - even twins will differ slightly. eg a difference of a couple of seconds could give two people different Rising Signs, which will fundamentally affect the way they interact with the world.

If a person is seriously looking for guidance from astrology, they should forget horoscope columns and have their Birth Chart drawn up and interpreted by a qualified astrologer.

StarSparkle

Still noone ahs got anywhere near attempting to explain why the time of your birth should have such specific connotations about your life.

Astrology was invented when the heavenly bodies were thought to be gods, angels and what have you. Can anyone explain why they have (or hint how they even could possibly have) the slightest meaning?

Originally posted by Yodameister
Still noone ahs got anywhere near attempting to explain why the time of your birth should have such specific connotations about your life.

Astrology was invented when the heavenly bodies were thought to be gods, angels and what have you. Can anyone explain why they have (or hint how they even could possibly have) the slightest meaning?

The origins of Astrology have been lost in the (cue cliche) 'mists of time'. It would be fascinating to know how/why it works, but I don't know of an answer to that.

However, it DOES appear to work, and the 'proof of the pudding is in the eating', as it were. I don't pretend to know how a television works, but I don't need to - I press a button and, hey presto, people are moving and talking on a little screen in the corner of my front room. You don't need to understand something to know it works, and to utilise it.

To have your birth chart interpreted is a fascinating experience, and it can help to explain a great deal about your personality. Give it a try - you might be surprised!

StarSparkle :)

PS Since I've become interested in Astrology, I've found I've become less judgemental and find other people much easier to understand - you understand that other people naturally have differing motivations from you, and that they genuinely experience the world differently.

I'm not saying that because no mechanism has been explained that it can't work, I'm just curious as to whether anyone has ever thought to find a mechanism.

For example, the effects of gravity in everyday situations were well described hundreds of years ago, but noone came close to a mechanism until Einstein and relativity - noone said that the lack of a mechanism meant gravity didn't exist.

I'm just sceptical, I'm not criticising anyone who believes in it.

Russell Grant is a con merchant !!!

Why do we still have people into star signs? Surely they should be sectioned?

Originally posted by Lickable
I believe that the position of the planets can effect our personalities and moods, but i think that horoscopes and a load of poop

Nice to know that somebody else suspects this to be true!

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
im aquarius and when i do read them - i teng to be more pisces or gemini

I'd be interested to know what your rising sign and your moon sign were... could well be pisces or gemini!

The rising sign is the major influence on your sun sign, whilst the moon sign governs emotions...

I'm an aquarius with Scorpio rising, for example, which means I'm either (depending on your viewpoint) passionate or moody - both of which aren't really Aquarian traits And I overreact quite a lot (see other posts!!)

Sun in scorpio, moon in pisces - an emotionally charged combination. That's me! To make any sense of horoscopes you must have a lot more than your sun sign to work with. I have some astro software that works it all out in minutes. All you need is the time and place of birth.

But again, where is the mechanism?

If you gather enough random unconnected data you can make it say just about anything you like.

Everyone has a unique star chart, and everyone has a unique life. Doesn't mean there is any connection.

The connection is not 'made up on the spot' - people exhibit certain traits, which can be identified (according to some) by the planets' positions in the heavens at birth.

My resources online are limited (especially as most horoscpe sites are appalling) but there a couple of links here you could check out...

First go HERE (http://www.astrograph.com/cgi-bin/astrograph_client/astrobuilder_input.pl?type=1&pdf=on&sample=on&enter_birth_info=1&amount=16) to get a cheap copy of your birth chart.

Then look up the results HERE (http://lifeguide.co.uk/analyse_self/index.htm)

Neither of these sites is fantastic, but they do give you a rough idea of how it works... PM me if you have any further questions!!!

PISCES

I would say other than 'gullible' i am very suited to my star sign...

Positive: Loving... Selfless... Trusting... Romantic... Mystical

Negative: Too Emotional... Escapist... Secretive... Gullible

Element: Water - Emotional

Ruling Planet: Jupiter & Neptune - Expansion... mystic... imagination

Gemstone: Moonstone... Amethyst

I've always said that i am a loving trusting hopeless romantic... Secretive - I dont have personal secrets but can be spoken to in confidence... Emotional - that is a very big yes... I can be very soppy... ( well fish are hopeless without water are they not lol ;) ) Escapist - Sadly yes not good with hearing bad news or seeing ill loved ones... If i can i'll try an shut off from the truth... I'm not good at handling emotional pain... Saying that tho I can be a very strong person when needed... :) As for Imagination - I have a great imagination...

Originally posted by Agent Dan
The connection is not 'made up on the spot' - people exhibit certain traits, which can be identified (according to some) by the planets' positions in the heavens at birth.

My resources online are limited (especially as most horoscpe sites are appalling) but there a couple of links here you could check out...

First go HERE (http://www.astrograph.com/cgi-bin/astrograph_client/astrobuilder_input.pl?type=1&pdf=on&sample=on&enter_birth_info=1&amount=16) to get a cheap copy of your birth chart.

Then look up the results HERE (http://lifeguide.co.uk/analyse_self/index.htm)

Neither of these sites is fantastic, but they do give you a rough idea of how it works... PM me if you have any further questions!!!

I didn't say that the connection was "made up on the spot", I just said that given enough data on anything then you can invent a spurious system of connecting two individual data sets together (in this case, the relative positions of heavenly bodies and the events of someones life or their personal qualities) - I think thats pretty much in agreement with what you are saying.

I don't really think that either of these sites give a mechanism. I don't want a full response, just one example hinting how it might possibly have anything in it would be enough.

The birth chart is the mechanism, fool!! :P

Each planet represents different parts of a person's personality, and it's position (absolute and in relation to the other planets) will suggest different strengths, weaknesses, traits, etc. If you want to know how to draw them, and get a further insight into it, you'll have to find someone willing to teach you!

The website given above which shows birth chart would have allowed you to look up your own chart, and see if you believe it is right. That will help immensley in your understanding. But if you're not prepared to spend time on it, how can you expect to understand?

Originally posted by Agent Dan
The birth chart is the mechanism, fool!! :P

Each planet represents different parts of a person's personality, and it's position (absolute and in relation to the other planets) will suggest different strengths, weaknesses, traits, etc. If you want to know how to draw them, and get a further insight into it, you'll have to find someone willing to teach you!

The website given above which shows birth chart would have allowed you to look up your own chart, and see if you believe it is right. That will help immensley in your understanding. But if you're not prepared to spend time on it, how can you expect to understand?

I think that you are misunderstanding what I mean by "mechanism"

The birth chart is the method which the person doing the reading (or whatever you call it) uses.

The mechanism (the way I mean it) is why the birth chart works.

eg, the mechanism by which gravity works is the distortion of space-time by the mass of an object.

I'm not being obtuse, I'm just interested as to whether anyone can give me an example of how it might work. I don't think that I'm asking a foolish question.

I think birth charts are like tarot cards - they form a complex enough sequence or matrix for you to use it as a unique jumping off point on certain aspects of your own personality and being - like a focus for meditations.

The actual archetypes manipulated in astrology reflect common types of character traits, presumably refined and reinterpreted along with the culture they exist within.

They are tools for introspection and self analysis. Artistic psychology (rather than the scientific version I mean).

But I don't for one moment suspect that the positions of lights in the sky actually influence events.

Very well put Phan! However, I would personally reserve judgement on whether or not the position of the lights does make a difference... certainly there seems to be some uncanny correlation between birth charts and personalities...

Yodameister - I would argue the reason it works is a theory, rather than a mechanism. A mechanism is a system for doing something, not the 'science' behind it...

Originally posted by Yodameister
I'm not being obtuse, I'm just interested as to whether anyone can give me an example of how it might work. I don't think that I'm asking a foolish question.

All I can thik of is gravity, but with the distances involved the forces are incredibly small.
However, having said that, the moon clearly has a very demostrable effect towards life on this planet an not just in terms of its effects on the tides.

Nomme

Originally posted by Agent Dan
Very well put Phan! However, I would personally reserve judgement on whether or not the position of the lights does make a difference... certainly there seems to be some uncanny correlation between birth charts and personalities...

Yodameister - I would argue the reason it works is a theory, rather than a mechanism. A mechanism is a system for doing something, not the 'science' behind it...

Well thats really a question of semantics.

I would say that Science is the language that you use to describe theories, not the way it really works.

The way it really works is the mechanism (thats the way I am using the word, and I think it is correct, if you use a different word to mean that fair enough)

It seems like the short answer is that there is that noone has come up with a plausible "theory" as to why the birth chart has any connection to your life or personality.

You seem to be trying to tie me up in knots with the discussion over semantics and hence not really answering my question.

If the answer is "I don't know" then fair enough.

Originally posted by Yodameister
I think that you are misunderstanding what I mean by "mechanism"

The birth chart is the method which the person doing the reading (or whatever you call it) uses.

The mechanism (the way I mean it) is why the birth chart works.

eg, the mechanism by which gravity works is the distortion of space-time by the mass of an object.

I'm not being obtuse, I'm just interested as to whether anyone can give me an example of how it might work. I don't think that I'm asking a foolish question.

Yodameister - I think your answer is that nobody really knows. At least this is my understanding of it. Astrology can be seen to work in practice - an astrologer has the methods available to work out your birth chart, and has guidance available on how to interpret that chart.

However, WHY Astrology works, which is what I think you're asking, is not known. Maybe at some point in our history we will discover/rediscover the science behind it, but we're not there yet (as far as I know).

I would be absolutely fascinated to understand the 'mechanism' behind astrology, but I don't need to understand this in order to appreciate the value of astrology.

I hope this helps.

StarSparkle :)

PS Phan - a number of psychologists do actually use astrology to help understand what is ailing their clients nowadays.

Originally posted by StarSparkle
Yodameister - I think your answer is that nobody really knows. At least this is my understanding of it. Astrology can be seen to work in practice - an astrologer has the methods available to work out your birth chart, and has guidance available on how to interpret that chart.

However, WHY Astrology works, which is what I think you're asking, is not known. Maybe at some point in our history we will discover/rediscover the science behind it, but we're not there yet (as far as I know).

I would be absolutely fascinated to understand the 'mechanism' behind astrology, but I don't need to understand this in order to appreciate the value of astrology.

I hope this helps.

StarSparkle :)

I don't think astrology would ever offer me any "value", if it does to you, then thats fair enough, I'm not criticising you for it.

Thats the way my mind works though, I never do anything unless I can see why I am doing it (or even have a hint of why it might work).

Originally posted by StarSparkle


PS Phan - a number of psychologists do actually use astrology to help understand what is ailing their clients nowadays.

Exactly my point - astrology is "headology" (to borrow a term from Granny Weatherwax).

The science behind it is all in the head. The stars and planets and constellations are a sufficiently random matrix from which you can draw up a totally unique birthchart. You can do this with the I-Ching too.

What you then get back is an interpretation of the various characteristics assigned to combinations of astrological 'events'. (or some pretty opaque passages to meditate on if you happen to be casting yarrow sticks - "suffusion of yellow" anyone?)

For a simple explanation why character traits may be grouped broadly and loosely by date of birth consider two facts:

1. Adult behaviour and character is strongly defined by childhood experiences.

2.Childhood experiences vary with the seasons, and developmental milestones will occur at different points of the year depending when you were born, year on year for your entire life (assuming a bell curve distribution for "milestone reaching ages" of different kinds)

Now that is a simple mechanism for astrology I reckon, if there are character differences (that can be demonstrated) between people born under similar sun signs or ever similar-ish birth charts (without them being twins, obviously...)

Yes, that is a very simple example of what I mean by a mechanism.

I can see how that might work in broad terms - but it seems to me to be fairly reliant upon the society you live in as to what the "milestones" might be, and I can't see how it would get down to the smaller details.

But this is the sort of debate I'm interested in, and it seems like finally someone is understanding what I'm asking!

Someone once postulated that perhaps gravitational effects of the planets, particluarly the moon (very close by) and the sun (very very big) could have a non-trivial, physical effect on the newborn infant.

This was largely debunked when it was calculated that the combined gravitational effect from these two masses was far, far outweighed (literally!) by the gravitational effect of the nearest obstetricians head.

Also - when we say "how astrology works" - a definition of what me mean by "works" seems central.

Astrology as a cultural tool for self exploration is probably helpful for somepeople, but certainly only mystical in the sense of being concerned with the mind.

Astrology as the scientific study of forces that determine the nature of man and woman (and presumably all living things by extension) is bunk.

It's a religion or a superstition whose roots lie in observation of common human character traits and environmental cycles, perhaps unconsciously observed and embedded into a system of symbols. A semiotic study of astrology would make interesting reading.

I bet, like folk tales, you could discern functions and systematize methods of 'telling' using a library of archetypes and daily observations of the practitioner.

Well in that case surely the suffix -ology is a bit of a misnomer.

In most superstitions you can see some sort of sensible science struggling to get out - but in astrology I can't even see that much.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Astrology as the scientific study of forces that determine the nature of man and woman (and presumably all living things by extension) is bunk.



Hmm. Have you not heard of the work of the Gauquelin twins?

eg. http://www.planetos.info/

Nomme

Originally posted by Agent Dan
. certainly there seems to be some uncanny correlation between birth charts and personalities...


I am unable to explain why, but I have to agree with this.

Originally posted by nomme
Hmm. Have you not heard of the work of the Gauquelin twins?

eg. http://www.planetos.info/

Nomme

Again, I think this could be explained by the far simpler "seasonal variations in formative experiences of infants and the effects on behaviour in childhood and adulthood" hypothesis.

Originally posted by venger
I am unable to explain why, but I have to agree with this.

I can explain why - its because [insert uranus gag here].Sorry, but I thought we'd better get it in early.

Why do people have so much trouble believing in 'Astrology' but not God? There is no 'mechanism' for God yet people still accept it if it has bearing or import to their life...

Phan - the I-Ching is less about the person, and more about a situation, and is a form of divination rather than analysis!!

Originally posted by Agent Dan
Why do people have so much trouble believing in 'Astrology' but not God? There is no 'mechanism' for God yet people still accept it if it has bearing or import to their life...

Phan - the I-Ching is less about the person, and more about a situation, and is a form of divination rather than analysis!!

The mechanism that most people think God works by is that God is omnipotent so he wills things to happen and they happen. I don't think it is much more complicated than that.

So could not he have left us a clue... some form of guidance in the positions of the planets at birth? Did not the wise men follow a bright star in the sky??

Well, he could have done. And a lot of people think that he has (well enough for them to believe in him anyway)

A lot of people think that the fact the universe is here at all is evidence enough of a creator.

So my point is... you don't have to have proof to believe something. If it works, it works!

Good debate though! Cheers!! :clap:

Originally posted by Agent Dan
So my point is... you don't have to have proof to believe something. If it works, it works!

Good debate though! Cheers!! :clap:

I agree with you. Belief generally means that you don't have 100% confirmatory evidence for it.

I didn't ever claim that you had to have proof for something to believe it. I wasn't really debating belief.

Yodameister - I believe you posted this earlier in the thread...

"Astrology was invented when the heavenly bodies were thought to be gods, angels and what have you. Can anyone explain why they have (or hint how they even could possibly have) the slightest meaning?"

Which I think explains why I was making my point about God/proof/beliefs.

The reason I introduced that was to say that I thought astrology was invented with some pseudo scientific theory to back it up (I'm using the word pseudo to indicate that its not in the way we use the word science today - not as a pejorative term)

So basically I'm saying that when it was invented it was not just taken on pure faith.

The fact it has the suffix -ology surely indicates that.

any Virgo females?

OMG!!!!
I'm not one for horoscopes but........................

This is Aquarius today:
"Attending a spiritual or educational gathering could be marvellously lucky for you."

Well..................tomorrow I am attending something that combines the two and is a very important landmark in my life to date and will change my future if all goes well.

What are the odds on that then????

OM double G!!!!

This is getting scary now!!!

"Then, your bright, shiny self gets a little bohemian on the 5th. Are you thinking about quitting your job and joining an artists' colony?"

What did I do on the 5th??? Only quit my long standing Job then went on a three day course doing pastel drawings, amongst other things!!!!

Originally posted by bonny
OM double G!!!!This is getting scary now!!!

It's not Russel Grant is it? He's getting really close to the bone in the Star these days. In fact I sometiMes wonder if he lives next door to me (and my friend too) as everything recently has been spot on the money :p

And before you say anything YODA!! :D I don't believe in horrorscopes either.

Although I do believe in the complete chart being a good pointer to character ...

Originally posted by bonny
OM double G!!!!

This is getting scary now!!!

"Then, your bright, shiny self gets a little bohemian on the 5th. Are you thinking about quitting your job and joining an artists' colony?"

What did I do on the 5th??? Only quit my long standing Job then went on a three day course doing pastel drawings, amongst other things!!!!

did you read that before or after the 5th?

presumably the other ~8.5% of the population also 'got bohemian' quit their job and joined an artists colony?

Not exactly the daily horoscopes, but an interesting experience of mine involving a cast horoscope for me that I saw AFTER the event.

Some years ago I was travelling on my own in Canada and Alaska, and over the space of a few days managed to get lost in the mountains and had a few adventures, some quite nerve wracking. Because of a problem with the home phone I couldn't contact home at the time, which exacerbated concerns.

On my return an examination of the transits in my horoscope for that time indicated that I would be having a difficult and dangerous time. Now, I should point out that I had no idea of this before I went. The accuracy of the horoscope that was cast (a detailed one involving place and date / time of birth) was VERY high.

Not scientifically rigorous, but was enough to make me much more receptive to the use of properly cast horoscopes.

Anecdotal evidence it may be, but it was relevant, and over the years I've been surprised at the relevance of detailed charts to people's lives.

Joe

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
did you read that before or after the 5th?

presumably the other ~8.5% of the population also 'got bohemian' quit their job and joined an artists colony?

I read it tonight! I never bother with Horoscopes but decided to, as I was bored and have a big day tomorrow. It just so happens that on the 5th that is exactly what I did apart from it wasn't a colony but a group of like minded people I am involved with to a degree.

I am the epitome of a Picean:lol:

Originally posted by JoePritchard
Not exactly the daily horoscopes, but an interesting experience of mine involving a cast horoscope for me that I saw AFTER the event.

Some years ago I was travelling on my own in Canada and Alaska, and over the space of a few days managed to get lost in the mountains and had a few adventures, some quite nerve wracking. Because of a problem with the home phone I couldn't contact home at the time, which exacerbated concerns.

On my return an examination of the transits in my horoscope for that time indicated that I would be having a difficult and dangerous time. Now, I should point out that I had no idea of this before I went. The accuracy of the horoscope that was cast (a detailed one involving place and date / time of birth) was VERY high.

Not scientifically rigorous, but was enough to make me much more receptive to the use of properly cast horoscopes.

Anecdotal evidence it may be, but it was relevant, and over the years I've been surprised at the relevance of detailed charts to people's lives.

Joe

The only examination of a horoscope that would hold up in those circumstances would be one written prior to your departure, sealed, and compared to your experiences by a third party after your return.

Randomly generated horoscopes have been shown to be just as 'accurate' as bona fide ones <runs of to try and dig up paper> and the phenomenon of relevance is not difficult to ascribe to selective attention. (What the thinker thinks the prover proves).

Essentially horoscopes may be a handy tool for introspection, by randomly or haphazardly presenting archetypes for cogitation; but I would refute the notion that they can be used to predict the future.

The name 'astrology' is a misnomer, as it has very little to do with the heavenly bodies, other than using them as a periodic pattern generator upon which an astrologer can hang platitudes and archetypical observations of human behaviour.

It's the sort of superstitious nonsense that wouldn't be so worrying if it was restricted to the lunatic fringe, but astoundingly this crap is peddled every day in some newspapers, lending it an authority it certainly does not deserve.

Star Signs - are they right? No

My star sign fits me very well I think. I'm a gemini and I can be a little schizo from time to time and all the other things geminis are supposed to be. Horoscopes however never seem to be right for me