As most of you will have probably seen, hundreds of shops are spouting up around the country selling pocket bikes or 'midi moto's'. Unfortunatley there seems to be nowhere legal to ride them unless you are fortunate enough to have a huge house and drive.

Any ideas? My kids are looking foward to riding their (throttle limited by dad) mini dirt bike at xmas but I have nowhere to legally go. Are office car parks classed as public roads? I do know a manager who would be prepared to let the kids have a blast but where do I stand legally, surely it's private property?

Mx tracks are out of the question, I'm not financially in a position to go down that route. It's just a toy that happens to have an engine.. which makes it a motor vehicle infortunately.

Originally posted by wearetherobots
Mx tracks are out of the question, I'm not financially in a position to go down that route. It's just a toy that happens to have an engine.. which makes it a motor vehicle infortunately. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I can't afford car tax - but I can afford the car
I can't afford council tax - but I can afford the house
I can't afford a TV licence - but I can afford the TV

Need I go on???

You have no idea how angry you people make me. How much do you have to lavish on your little dears to buy their affection? Ever tried spending time with them?

And will they be fully supervised every time they PLAY OUT on these TOYS?


:hihi: Mr Strix says it's like buying a boat for them then complaining you dont have a river at the bottom of the garden! :hihi:

I bet your kids have a right good laugh with you then, NOT!

Originally posted by brownieblade
I bet your kids have a right good laugh with you then, NOT! Who? Me? Just one beagle, thanks, and he doesn't get EVERYTHING he wants, either.

I hope if you do find somewhere for your kids to ride these vehicles, that you are going to get them insurance, because If one of them makes a scratch on someone's car, you're going to be in some very hot water.
Also I trust you have bought them minimum safety wear. Leather jacket, motorcycle gloves, approved helmet etc.. The speed that a vehicle is travelling doesn't always prevent injury. And finally are you aware that it is illegal for persons under 16 to buy petrol.

Originally posted by Strix
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I can't afford car tax - but I can afford the car
I can't afford council tax - but I can afford the house
I can't afford a TV licence - but I can afford the TV

Need I go on???

You have no idea how angry you people make me. How much do you have to lavish on your little dears to buy their affection? Ever tried spending time with them?

And will they be fully supervised every time they PLAY OUT on these TOYS?

What????

The guys is only asking for advice ffs. Mini Motos retail for about £150, OK its fair amount of money but not exactly shedloads is it?

I cant help you but hope you find out what you need to know.

Mat

did anyone actually read boots post? He's asking if anyone knows where his kids can ride legally. So from that it's fair to assume he'll be taking the kids there personally so yes he will be supervising them, away from other cars so they cant scratch them. he cant afford moto x track time and he probably knows that kids on mini bikes would be in danger of the full sized bikes going round at 50+ mph so thats out. give the guy a break. he came here for advice, not a slagging on his parenting skills. BTW mate dont know if you can legally but at meadowhall, on the overspill carpark under the viaduct seems a nice open space which i'm sure no-one would mind you using on a sunday afternoon ( though some of the miserable sods probably would complain that the ultra high frequency's are interfering with their budgie or something) Nick.

Originally posted by wearetherobots
As most of you will have probably seen, hundreds of shops are spouting up around the country selling pocket bikes or 'midi moto's'. Unfortunatley there seems to be nowhere legal to ride them unless you are fortunate enough to have a huge house and drive.

Any ideas? My kids are looking foward to riding their (throttle limited by dad) mini dirt bike at xmas but I have nowhere to legally go. Are office car parks classed as public roads? I do know a manager who would be prepared to let the kids have a blast but where do I stand legally, surely it's private property?

Mx tracks are out of the question, I'm not financially in a position to go down that route. It's just a toy that happens to have an engine.. which makes it a motor vehicle infortunately.

At Lightwood Norton driving centre. Theres also space for off roading down at the bottom end

I believe the sites where you are able to ride these are very limited. In fact I don't know of one.
How about your back garden!

Originally posted by mat1978
What????

The guys is only asking for advice ffs. Mini Motos retail for about £150, OK its fair amount of money but not exactly shedloads is it?

I cant help you but hope you find out what you need to know.

Mat

I think mini motos cost a little more than £150, but I agree entiely, he was only asking for advice.

i do think that that is perhaps something he should of thought of before he bought the bikes.. but i dont think that he deserved all that criticism, he might have saved all year for them and anyway i cant remember filling out a form about my earnings before i joined the site to make sure i didnt have to much money to have an opinion or ask advice!

Originally posted by venger
I think mini motos cost a little more than £150, but I agree entiely, he was only asking for advice.

I suppose it depends on model etc - but they can be found on ebay (http://search.ebay.co.uk/mini-moto_Automotive_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQsonewus erZ1QQfromZR10QQsocurrencydisplayZ2QQsacategoryZ98 00Q26catrefQ3DC6QQsoloctogZ9QQsotrtypeZ1QQsotrvalu eZ1QQsacurrencyZ3QQsosortpropertyZ1Q26sosortorderQ 3D1QQcoactionZcompareQQcopagenumZ1QQcoentrypageZse arch)
for decent money.

Thats where I must have seen them.

Mat

Thanks for the link, I would buy one if there was a local club!

Maybe there is?

Well.. lol thx for advice the people who did actually give some :)

To be honest I can see why people get so mad about kids on bikes but mine are always supervised and the bike is limited by me to around 15mph max (via pipe in carb)

The problem with these bikes are youths riding round public roads on them but even then I have sympathy because it's better than them drinking ****e lightining and breaking windows etc

It's the same for skateboarding, bmx as well, very little free recreational ground for anything. Plenty of gyms and bowling alleys to pay for but when it comes to free land for activity... nowt. Older people may get off on walking the dog but kids need something to occupy them other than watching tv.

Originally posted by wearetherobots
Well.. lol thx for advice the people who did actually give some :)

It's the same for skateboarding, bmx as well, very little free recreational ground for anything. Plenty of gyms and bowling alleys to pay for but when it comes to free land for activity... nowt. Older people may get off on walking the dog but kids need something to occupy them other than watching tv.

Shame you did not get much help here.

People were quite rude presupposing and all.

I hope things work out for you.

If you do find a local club, I would be interested to know.

venger.

Cum on lets get a bit of sense on this one.If thinking of buying a motorised bike for a young kid anybody with a bit of sense would think hey hang on where can I let my kids ride this in safety and legally before pursuing the purchase,as regards supervising the kids what are you going to do give them a couple of hours every weekend and then when you are fed up of this just let them ride round the garden all day which will then probably cause a row with your neighbours who would have to listen to a two stroke engine whining away for hours on end.

Originally posted by wearetherobots
Older people may get off on walking the dog but kids need something to occupy them other than watching tv.

How about taking your kids to the park and kicking a ball about?

Originally posted by wearetherobots
To be honest I can see why people get so mad about kids on bikes but mine are always supervised and the bike is limited by me to around 15mph max (via pipe in carb) Okay, I relent. It's nice to hear a responsible parent with something to say.

Perhaps you could organise a club yourself? Or gather some more support to lobby the council. Sounds like you've got some support here. I think even those without kids (and /or big toys) would support the responsible operation of these machines.

Try contacting your community police officer too. They're sick to the back teeth of the illegal use of these things, so should support you or be able to offer advice on how to move forward.

Good luck :thumbsup:

I think buying a mini-moto is a mistake. You are never going to get much use out of it, the organisation (according to this thread) of a riding session, is a problem. They are dangerous, illegal, uninsured, and give kids the impression they can use motor vehicles without any preparation and training.

Wrong as far as I'm concerned, I'm sorry .:nono:

A much more useful and enjoyable passtime, would be karting. You can do karing with younger people at Trax in Rotherham. You have proper organisation, safety equipment and guidence from the staff. Everyone has to sign a form before starting and it's on private land. Buy your kids some sessions for christmas instead.

Not sure but I think that Parkwood Karting in Sheffield (Just off Penistone Road) are going to be holding Mini Moto races. A friend of mine went last saturday for a try out and I believe it went well...

Maybe you can contact them to see if they have any more info..

Be careful out there! (http://www.funnyjunk.com/p/0442-jpg.html) :hihi:

If anyone is still looking for somewhere to legally go mini-moto-ing :lol: Heres a few links

http://www.gpkarting.com/mini_moto.html

http://www.doctordanger.com/motorbikeroad/minimoto_start.htm

http://bikething.co.uk/minimoto/

I saw a programme on TV the other day from one of these events, they're so great! They have races, even with those lil' sidecars and a passenger :lol:. They take it very seriously safty wise, but have a cracking day out by the looks of things.

The increase in the popularity of minimotos has astounded me. I grew up racing these things (I can be seen at the front of this picture [http://bikething.net/minimoto/TheMMRA2.htm]) but stopped when i was about 15 ish to race bigger bikes and to concentrate on A levels.

I must admit a bit of a pang of jealousy whenever I see former sparring partners like Chaz Davies and Mark Heckles on TV. Mind you, they were always much better than me.

Still, I'd encourage your kids to ride minimotos as much as possible. I started off in the car park to my Dad's work and when I'd got the hang of riding around, went to a few 'practice meets' - there used to be ones at a Brummie outdoor track called 'Slick n' Slide' but I can't find a phone number for them. Just links to sexual lubricant, which'll look just *great* if my boss decides to investigate my web browsing. However, I daresay another track has moved in to fill the gap. It's intimidating at first when you see the skill of even the beginners. But trust me, just go out when the track is empty and let the others find away round you. After a few meets the tables will have turned and you'll be trying to find your way around the new people.

Anyway, if you look at the big shots of racing at the moment, Rossi, Harada, Gibernau, etc etc all started off racing minimotos.

Not that I wish to preach about my own talents, but when my NC30 went sideways on me on some diesel a few weeks ago I'm sure the 5 or 6 years I spent wobbling around the kart tracks of Britain saved me from bouncing down the road on my head.

Get the kids hooked young, I say, But also get them the protective clothing they need. I used to wear full race leather when I raced. Many others did it with just motocross armour on to save weight. Padgett's of Batley [http://www.totalit.com/padgetts/index.htm] sell second hand and cheaper leathers (you don't need a full £1000 Dainese set to go minimoto racing) to protect your budding champions.

parkwood karting every sunday from 11-4 or something like that £10 per person just bring your mini moto up and your free to use the track.

mini scooters and motorbikes are illegal to use if they dont have insurance,MOT,drivers licenece etc they could face jail or £500 penalty fine a leaflet bout this has been distributed around sheffield.

Originally posted by ilaria
mini scooters and motorbikes are illegal to use if they dont have insurance,MOT,drivers licenece etc they could face jail or £500 penalty fine a leaflet bout this has been distributed around sheffield.

On the road yes, we're talking about off-road use.

still need MOT insurance drivers licence etc even if its off road.i have a leaflet here that tells it all.

Thats surprising, as you don't need all that to go Petrol Karting etc... I thought MOT and everything was just for using the publi highways, not off-road, private land?

Mr Strix's dad's Grasstrack bike needs none of those things, coz it arrives at meetings on a trailer. If it didn't travel by trailer it would need them.

http://www.minimotoclub.co.uk

Is about the best place for info on minimotos (Where to ride etc)..

Hmm, seems to me that you are nurturing your mini chavettes to be "eedjits on scooters" see other thread...

It drives me mad that parents buy these death machines for their kids. There is a reason that the legal age for driving is what it is, and that is that kids don't always understand the consequences of their actions (neither do some adults, but as I've stated before, I believe that is a recognised mental disorder).

I only hope that when your little darlings do something stupid, which is probably only a matter of time, its not an innocent third party that gets hurt:rant:

still need MOT insurance drivers licence etc even if its off road.i have a leaflet here that tells it all.

unless its private land like parkwood karting. Its not just kids that use mini motos you should see how seriously the older people take it.

Originally posted by Sara
Hmm, seems to me that you are nurturing your mini chavettes to be "eedjits on scooters" see other thread...

It drives me mad that parents buy these death machines for their kids. There is a reason that the legal age for driving is what it is, and that is that kids don't always understand the consequences of their actions (neither do some adults, but as I've stated before, I believe that is a recognised mental disorder).

I only hope that when your little darlings do something stupid, which is probably only a matter of time, its not an innocent third party that gets hurt:rant:

tell dougie lampkin and his dad that coz he started riding at the age of 4 and as you may or may not know is the world champion trails rider and has been for years as are nearly all top bike and sports people and also please give a little respect to the parents that buy their kids these bikes for having the sense to supervise them properly etc as they wouldnt be on here asking about all the legal information etc in the 1st place. please dont tar us all with the same brush as a few irresponsible parents

Originally posted by Sara
Hmm, seems to me that you are nurturing your mini chavettes to be "eedjits on scooters" see other thread...

It drives me mad that parents buy these death machines for their kids. There is a reason that the legal age for driving is what it is, and that is that kids don't always understand the consequences of their actions (neither do some adults, but as I've stated before, I believe that is a recognised mental disorder).

I only hope that when your little darlings do something stupid, which is probably only a matter of time, its not an innocent third party that gets hurt:rant:

Well, it would appear that this post has got the flaming it deserved but I'd also like to add a few comments of my own to this singularly myopic offering from Sara.

I'll let wearetherobots deal with the presumptions Sara makes about his fathering skills and dwell more on the issues to do with biking and young people with motor vehicles that she attempts to raise.

Let us assume for a second that one's ability to drive, to be a good driver (or rider), is measured in terms of the ability to control one's vehicle in whatever situation presents itself. In other words car or bike control. Now the very best people in the world at this are the racers at the top end of their respective sports. F1 drivers and MotoGP riders. Every single one of these guys, every last one, started at an early age either driving karts, riding dirt bikes or minimoto. I daresay they may have hurt themselves at some point (I was lucky; I never got anything worse than bruised ribs in 5 or 6 years of racing) but now they are the best in the world.

I'm not implying the wearetherobots kids are going to become world champions (best of luck to them if they try, though) but I'm almost certain that them racing around on minimotos now and falling off at <30mph will save them a few crashes on the road, if they choose to get proper bikes, at 60+ where it can really damage yourself at others.

OK, I'm labouring a point, as being a safe and good driver or rider on the road is more than just being able to control a sliding vehicle, but knowing where the limits of a vehicle are and how it behaves when pushed consitute a great deal of what being a 'good' rider or driver is. And a young man who knows where his vehicle will come unstuck will be less likely to attempt to find that limit on public roads at inappropriate times.

There are plenty of people out there who dislike motorbikes and many of them have good reason to, having witnessed what happens when motorcyclists have arguments with cars. I do not wish to profess to them that biking is a safe and virtuous method of transport. It's not. People die on them. My friends have died on them. However, criticising someone for effectively making biking marginally safer, for possibly preventing a stay in hospital at a later date, is not constructive in the least.

Right, rant over. Happy ADC returns. It's not often that I get peeved about things, but this was definitely an instance.

Originally posted by Sara
Hmm, seems to me that you are nurturing your mini chavettes to be "eedjits on scooters" see other thread...

It drives me mad that parents buy these death machines for their kids. There is a reason that the legal age for driving is what it is, and that is that kids don't always understand the consequences of their actions (neither do some adults, but as I've stated before, I believe that is a recognised mental disorder).

I only hope that when your little darlings do something stupid, which is probably only a matter of time, its not an innocent third party that gets hurt:rant:

I guess this is the outcome when the mis-guided do-gooders find a thread they think they can climb onto their soap-box about :loopy:

If you actually took as much time to read the full thread as you obviously did to spurt forth the above slurry, then you would know that this thread is all about using these machines in a legal and responsible manner.

But I presume if you worked that out yourself, you'd have nothing to contribute at all....

It truly amazes me how many people talk out of their butt-holes rather than educate themselves, I suppose they're the same people who were convinced the Internet was the devil incarnate ..until their 'chavettes' spent a few hours teaching them how to use it.

Well I knew my post would get a good response...

Wearetherobots made it clear in his post that he was not prepared to pay to use Mx tracks (what ever these are - I admit my ignorance) and is looking for some "grey" alternative.

As for ADC_28 - your miss my point entirely, it's not about their ability to control a bike, its about their ability to show good judgement - and if you think that these kids are responsible and fully aware of the consequences of their actions then shouldn't we be changing the age of culpability in law and putting children through the same legal process as adults? I'm sure you wouldn't advocate this!

Oh and by the way, I have been riding motorbikes since I was 17 and retrospectively I know I took risks then that were ill considered and that I wouldn't take now.

I walk everyday on the park with my dog and my baby in a pushchair and I am often "buzzed" by irresponsible kids on unlicenced off road bikes and scooters.

I guess the truth is that you don't see the responsible kids as they are all off in legitimate places away from the public, but the irresponsible kids are there in your face every weekend.

Oh, and beans for you -clearly I am neither as uneducated, common nor as old as you as I have grown up with PCs, have the ability to acquire new knowledge and skills through learning and am far too posh for chavettes :P

i totally agree with beansforyou on this subject too many people jumping on the band wagon thinking they r law abiding citizens when sum of us just want 2 take their kids out safely on their bikes where we rnt disturbing other folks i have recently bought my 8 year old one for his birthday and i want 2 b able to take him sum where safe 2 practise on before taking him 2 a track which in all means is going 2 b daunting for any 8 year and any other children of any age under 13 who hasnt had any practice

Originally posted by Sara
Well I knew my post would get a good response...

Wearetherobots made it clear in his post that he was not prepared to pay to use Mx tracks (what ever these are - I admit my ignorance) and is looking for some "grey" alternative.


MX tracks (or motocross tracks) are privately owned off road tracks which allow practice and racing of offroad bikes. An example is BUMPY [http://www.bumpy.org.uk/] where I used to mess around as a young, irresponsible child. However, such privately owned areas have to maintain their own first aid facilities and have insurance and such the cost of which has to be supported by the customer. Wearetherobots can't afford this and it *is* expensive.


As for ADC_28 - your miss my point entirely, it's not about their ability to control a bike, its about their ability to show good judgement - and if you think that these kids are responsible and fully aware of the consequences of their actions then shouldn't we be changing the age of culpability in law and putting children through the same legal process as adults? I'm sure you wouldn't advocate this!


Did I indeed. You're quite right; kids are not responsible and fully aware of their consequences. Part of what is being a kid is just that. My point was that letting the kids explore the bikes and act irresponsibly when the stakes aren't so high as they are on the road, or even in the local park harassing you, will pay dividends later in life when they have the cause/effect knowledge learned back then.

Neither wearetherobots or I are advocating allowing the kids to practise where people can get hurt. He wants somewhere that isn't too expensive where his kids can use the the new toy safely. And that is what we on the Forum were trying to provide. Judgement comes through experience, and what better place to acquire both than off the road in private land and in your own time. It'll pay dividends once they've passed their tests and don't need to learn the hard way on the roads what to do if the bike tries to throw you off.


Oh and by the way, I have been riding motorbikes since I was 17 and retrospectively I know I took risks then that were ill considered and that I wouldn't take now.


Then do you see the value of being able to take those risks when the stakes are not so high? Of learning to avoid those risks when the price of failure is a lost race or a skinned knee instead of broken bones and criminal proceedings? Yes, I'm lecturing, but surely this is intuitive? The kids shouldn't be harassing you down the park in the same way the older kids on scooters shouldn't be tearing up the grass near Carl's house [http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44359] however, to flame somebody who is trying to prevent this happening is extremely counter-productive.


I guess the truth is that you don't see the responsible kids as they are all off in legitimate places away from the public, but the irresponsible kids are there in your face every weekend.


Quite right. It's always the minority that cause problems for the majority. I think the sudden explosion of little scooters and minibikes is down to the sudden drop in cost. When I raced them (About 12 years ago) my racebike cost around £2000 after race prep. Admittedly, it'd do about 70 given the space, but even the bog-standard imports were around the £600 mark. Not meaning to sound elitist, but this kept them out of the reach of those who are the ones who are harassing you down the park.

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Oh, and beans for you -clearly I am neither as uneducated, common nor etc etc [/B]

Again, I'll let beansforyou to deal with this. You earned yourself no friends with your heavy handed approach to this thread.

You say you're a biker, and therefore understand the risks involved and such, but you have thus far failed to offer a single constructive method of getting young bikers into the 'sport' (or activity, or whatever) safely and responsibly.

Originally posted by Sara
Well I knew my post would get a good response...

Well I guess it's one way of getting some attention...:lol:



Oh and by the way, I have been riding motorbikes since I was 17 and retrospectively I know I took risks then that were ill considered and that I wouldn't take now.

And what an exciting and adventurous child you would have been...not to mention what an outgoing & confident adult....

I walk everyday on the park with my dog and my baby in a pushchair and I am often "buzzed" by irresponsible kids on unlicenced off road bikes and scooters.

Oh, and beans for you -clearly I am neither as uneducated, common nor as old as you as I have grown up with PCs, have the ability to acquire new knowledge and skills through learning and am far too posh for chavettes :P

Clearly to whom, exactly? :loopy:

As a young mum & past biker, perhaps you could use your extensive knowledge & skills to help stop illegal off-road use of these motorbikes, and educate people in how to learn in a safe & fun environment (believe it or not, Fun isn't illegal, quite yet)

Do you contact the police to report these people in your local park?

Or do you prefer to just whine about it and do nothing constructive?

As for the personal comments, do you own your own crystal ball, or is it from Crazy Georges?

When I raced them (About 12 years ago) my racebike cost around £2000 after race prep. Admittedly, it'd do about 70 given the space, but even the bog-standard imports were around the £600 mark. Not meaning to sound elitist, but this kept them out of the reach of those who are the ones who are harassing you down the park.

ADC, you sound like just the man to ask...is there any particual brand of Mini Moto out there at present that you would recomend? Or anyone else for that matter?

My other half is really interested in getting one, but he doesn't want to buy something cheap & nasty, he wants to be able to get spare parts etc too.

(only because I won't let him on my real bike :lol: )

Originally posted by beansforyou
ADC, you sound like just the man to ask...is there any particual brand of Mini Moto out there at present that you would recomend? Or anyone else for that matter?


It's been 12 years since I raced those things, so my advice may well be a little tired.

I raced a DM Nova [http://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=4872&sid=f5c7ef363fd84c1882686a75a35c31f5 - not my bike, I hasten to add], which was part factory sponsored.

The other bikes I raced against (apart from a few oddities) were the Polini Midis [http://www.polini.co.uk/news/current/exclusive_gp3.htm sold here by old sparring partner Alan McIntosh whose Scottish accent is like treacle, tha noo].

The DMs handled better and, in the right hands (generally not mine), would win races. They were, however, smaller and a bit less reliable if they ran the ZPF engines (the one in the pic is running a Polini one).

This said, I've no idea whatsoever who races what now. I raced for Hemming & Wood who now, according to their website, don't import minimotos any longer. Alan McIntosh [http://www.polini.co.uk/minimoto/index.htm] was a decent guy and could probably advise you well if you can understand what he's saying, although I do feel I'm recommending you to the enemy given I spent about 6 years of my life trying to beat his bikes.

As shown by someone else in this thread, there exists a forum at http://www.minimotoclub.co.uk/vb/ and they may well be able to give you a more up to date, balanced view.

From what I can gather from those who have stuck with the sport, it has changed massively since I left and since the money has flowed in. Money, as always, changes things and apparently gone is the friendly atomsphere and the lending of tools and parts. Now it's all win, win, win at all costs. Anyway, it'll still be fun, I'm sure.

Hope this all helps.

Thanks,

thats great info, I'll point him to this thread (i'm sure he'll have a good chuckle at earlier posts too lol )


It is sad that many hobbies, which start off by genuine like minded individuals getting together to enjoy it, end up being all about the money, and even fame to some degree.


Does anyone know if they still hold Scramble meets up near Bradfield on sundays? I've not heard them for years, and it would be great to go again.

there isnt just mini motos, dirt bikes are more fun.you can go anywhere on them,(that is if the land owner permits) and because of the rough ground the little darlings cant go fast if they wanted to. it sure teaches them balance and control. i agree with the fact that they are a lot cheaper now. there are thousands of them getting imported every day. i bought a list of manufacturers off ebay for £1.50 and spoke to some reps out in china(which is where they all come from) and you can buy mini motos and dirt bikes for kids for as little as $200 which is about £90. cost £60 to import by boat. they will sell to anyone with a credit card. hence the explosion. my only worry is that at this price it does bring them in the price range of everybody and unfortunately not everybody has the intellegence that is required to safely supervise and control the kids that use them.
i must admit i am amazed the amount of people that has an interest in this kind of sport so how about us putting our heads together and solving this legal argument about where to go cheaply. Anybody got 3 or 4 acres of land spare to use. id sign a waver to say im responsible for my sons actions , my step dad is fully trained by st johns ambulance and would be quite happy to spend 1 day a week with his grandson on site incase anything untoward happened, so just insuranceto deal with . . would welcome anyones views on this subject constructive or not

Originally posted by louise170419
Anybody got 3 or 4 acres of land spare to use. id sign a waver to say im responsible for my sons actions , my step dad is fully trained by st johns ambulance and would be quite happy to spend 1 day a week with his grandson on site incase anything untoward happened, so just insuranceto deal with . . would welcome anyones views on this subject constructive or not

The council would also probably get involved because a 'change of use' would need to be declared, unless it's already being used for that purpose.

Sod your kids!!!

I have a mini moto and i love it! had it about a month and i want to go out on it all the time, tho i realise that this may make me sound a tad childish but i really dont care, i am a "biker" and i do ride according to the law on my moto. all these do gooders stickin thier "two penneth" in because they actually have no hobbies and wont educate themselves on the subject thus stick to just whining.

i bought mine from ebay at £150 and i have used it on go cart tracks because they all do "mini moto days"... parkwood go-karting does track days on sundays. a friend of mine has had and used it for over 90 hours.... £150 divided by 90 hours is £1.60 an hour, where can you have that much frun for £1.60 per hour????

as i said before i do find these things really fun, really easy to maintain and ride and really cheap to customise and modify. i'm 21 and i ride other bikes but for sheer convenience and cost you cant go wrong with these things. they fit in the boot of a punto (easily) and it costs around £1.50 for a full tank of fuel (petrol and 2:stroke oil)

also a point to note is that yeah they do only go 30mph, but when your a few inches from the ground, on nimble 10 inch tires it seems alot faster.

so what are you waiting for everbody buy one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

also a the best web site i have found is www.cagclub.co.uk

very nice people and forum, who meet near nottingham weekly

Originally posted by f_g
unless its private land like parkwood karting. Its not just kids that use mini motos you should see how seriously the older people take it.

i think people are getting 'off road ' and 'off the road' and 'in private property' mixed up

any motor vehicle, whether car, bike , quad, lorry, bus , steam roller needs to be iegistered , taxed and insured if used on public roads, and ridden / driven by an approrpaitely qualifed and suitably equipped ( e.g. helmet for motocycles, glasses/ contacts if required to pass the eyesight standard)

Legislation makes certain areas which are not the council / HA roads subject to the requirements of the road traffic act - this is how people get done for drivign riding illegally and dangerously in parks and in 'private' car parks which the public have unrestricted access to.

Somewhere which is entirely private and access is under the control of an individual or company ( and their agents, employees and servants ..) is completely different matter. e.g. something operated as a motorsport facility.

Originally posted by f_g
parkwood karting every sunday from 11-4 or something like that £10 per person just bring your mini moto up and your free to use the track.

Is this event still on the go?
Considering buying a mini moto as winter aint that far away and I get withdrawls from two wheeled malarkying:sad:

hope none of you owners were the ones I almost flattened on Callywhite lane last weekend? 6 footers with no safety gear on public roads would not have looked so good when my Renault Scenic had gone over them. Still any damage to my car would have been covered by their insurance .....wouldn't it? :)

Is this event still on the go?

yes it is

My 11 yr old is desperate for one of these but we are struggling to find somewhere for him to ride it legally and i am not prepared to purchase it until we do. Can anyone suggest anywhere in the Sheffield area.

Thanks

Originally posted by f_g
parkwood karting every sunday from 11-4 or something like that £10 per person just bring your mini moto up and your free to use the track.

Can anybody give me any details regarding this, address, street name etc.
I would like to go and check it out before buying one.
Many thanks.

Originally posted by claycraft
Can anybody give me any details regarding this, address, street name etc.
I would like to go and check it out before buying one.
Many thanks.

BUMP!

Has anyone been?
What's it like?

parkwood road sheffield, near ski sload its signposted. Go and have a talk with some of the lads the cheap mini motos might not be good to buy when you might find someone selling a very good 2nd hsnd one cheaper.

parkwood road sheffield, near ski sload its signposted. Go and have a talk with some of the lads the cheap mini motos might not be good to buy when you might find someone selling a very good 2nd hsnd one cheaper.

Originally posted by f_g
parkwood road sheffield, near ski sload its signposted. Go and have a talk with some of the lads the cheap mini motos might not be good to buy when you might find someone selling a very good 2nd hsnd one cheaper.

Cheers f_g

Got a mini moto today for my son and I am quite impressed with it but (this is going to sound really silly) do they always smell quite strong of petrol/oil etc?. We have turned the fuel off whilst it is stood and it still smells. We are keeping it in an outbuoilding which is attached to the house and it is making the kitchen smell.

I Know that some people ride these in the overspill car park at Tescos on abbeydale road. They must have some kind of agreement because they are there often and usually for a while you would just have to go down until you find them there and enquire if they have permission.:thumbsup:

Hi guys...

Me and my friends normally go out to a place where we get the landowners permission. They are really fun and all the killjoys going on about them being a breeding ground for kids to ride on the roads illegally blah blah blah.

Kids and idiots will abuse anything, minimotos whatever... Its those idiots that give people who ride them legally a bad name.

Try parkwood its good for £15 for a few hours, only been once tho.

But really try www.cagclub.co.uk its really useful and give you maintence tips, advice and lots of other info!

these in sheffield without gettin grilld bye the police any advice

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Anywhere where it says "live range".

Pendine beach in Wales is great.

Graves Park, if the activites on the Norton side are anything to go by.

Parkwood karting every sunday take your own mini moto costs £10 for the day (i think its 11-3 but best to call).

Legally, anything with a petrol engine you can only use on private land with the owner's permission, or on the road with a valid license.

Don't forget that the police can easily monitor any suggestions for alternatives that are posted on here...

(hence SteveWilson's suggestion I guess)

Mines done about 5 miles and It's currently collecting dust as a rather expensive ornament.

Any offers?

bought my lad a one ten the other week,i take him on the fields that run paralell with the parkway,next to pipworth school,its probably not legal but there's no houses near by so obviously no complaints.also ive been told ther's a legal track just off the m18 near donny,not had chance to look yet.

You can race em up and down our road all day long if you like. 3 or 4 other kids do and the rozzers haven't even been around :wink:

I took my younger Bro up to the parkwood karting track today. £20 11am to 3 pm. There were a few racers there, some 35+ blokes having the time of their lives and a few kids tootling around. Top day was had by all. although it was our first time we were made very welcome and we were given some good sound advice. The conditions of the track are the minimoto has to have rubber footrests and the rider has to have a helmet and knee protection. very reccomended (now if i could lose a few stone i might buy me one.....)

Originally posted by fredsredhat
I took my younger Bro up to the parkwood karting track today. £20 11am to 3 pm. There were a few racers there, some 35+ blokes having the time of their lives and a few kids tootling around. Top day was had by all. although it was our first time we were made very welcome and we were given some good sound advice. The conditions of the track are the minimoto has to have rubber footrests and the rider has to have a helmet and knee protection. very reccomended (now if i could lose a few stone i might buy me one.....)

Yeah mate i'll be there sunday all being well.

Its just a bit of fun at the end of the day and you better make the most of the bike before the harsh weather kicks in!

Everyone pile to parkwood

do they allow midi moto's - or is it just the mini moto's? I'm 6f3" so i don't fancy getting a mini. The midi looks more possible.

ive been after a quad bike but im not allowed one 4 the same reason that theres nowhere round here 2 ride them. nearest place ive found and been to is TRAX up at Preston.

Hate to drag up a old thread but I was hoping to find somewhere legal to ride mine and as bring along a friend too.

Im upset by the anti bike comments on here, people not being helpful should just keep their mouths shut, there are plenty of fact proving mini moto racing is one of the safest motorsports and its where all the pros start.

Back to topic, ive range parkwood karting and they say they are not planning to do mini moto days on a Sunday this season.

Is there anywhere else??? I understanding there are a few sections of land that public are allowed to use, on is near Worksop at the roundabout near the Wilkos depo.

Anybody have an idea where we can go that would have gravel/tarmac to ride upon, I dont wanna ride in mud or a field.

:loopy::loopy:
THIS SITE APPEARS TO BE FULL OF POMPOUS SELF RIGHTOUS PEOPLE. PARENTS IN GENERAL TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN. OFF ROAD BIKING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE A GREAT ATTRACTION TO CHILDREN AND ADULTS OF ALL AGES. INSTEAD OF SOUNDING OF ABOUT DELIQUENT KIDS AND :confused::confused::confused:COUNCIL ESTATE PARENTS:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: WHY NOT HELP CAMPAIGN FOR SAFE PLACES WITH ADEQUATE SUPERVISION AND SAFETY RULES FOR KIDS TO ENJOY THEIR PASSION

They were big time here a couple of years ago, causing all kinds of problems and a few deaths,now they have gone the way of all fads, and sit forlorn and rusting outside because Dad won't have them in his garage. Every Christmas its the same thing. Little darling has to have the latest and greatest or die. Parents get into fist fights in the toy stores. A week after Christmas, little darling is bored again.

Jolly Rodgers!! they are activities besides chess and crochet?!

:D

clay wheels lane oppersite airflow theres an old car par there are balards so cars cnt get on thats were i ride min :)