I am doing a project for the course I'm doing (ICDH) and would be interested to hear what people think of the manor area and why? Thanks for reading.

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Please will someone please enlighten me with their opinion!!!
:D ;) :( :suspect:

What does ICDH stand for? We don't know if you mean in relation to housing, layout, services, people, crime levels, history. Help us out here. :loopy:

Introduction to Community Development and Health. Anything really, just whatever your thoughts are. Cheers :thumbsup:

Chez,

Housing

Very good on the whole, much better since the demolision of the 1920s houses. The new build around Fairleigh etc looks very smart.

Layout
Excellent. Manor/Manor Park is not what you would call a 'typical' Inner city area in terms of layout. AFAIK, there are no terraced housing. Most houses have large garden areas and there is acres of green space - having said this, some of the green areas have become run down and look a mess. Roads also need attention, alot of the minor roads seem to be made out of concrete slabs?

Services

First Class.

3 different GP surgeries (Manor Top, White House, Manor Park Centre), Dentist, Chemists, local shops, Supermarket, Takeaways, Hairdresses, Large Sports Centre, Primary and Secondary School, Youth Clubs - etc etc etc.

People

I might be abit biased here ;) but most people are friendly, approachable and have a strong sense of community spirit.

Crime

I dont know statistics for crime in the area but Im sure you could explore this. I would guess that it is higher than some areas of the city but lower than others.

Summary

I guess that most people have preconceptions of the Manor, not helped by the media and the way it portrays it. The Star is one of the biggest offenders, last month there was a feature on ASB and the pictures they showed were of the Manor Park Centre PRIOR to the revamp so it looked how they wanted it too. Another picture was of some kids jumping on a bus shelter - it wasnt even on the Manor (Wybourn).

There has been alot of money pumped into this area - most of which has been good and well use. I suppose it doesnt matter what 'other'people think about an area, the only opinions that count are from those who live there - and I wouldnt be willing to bet that the vast majority of Manor folk you speek to would say they love the place.

Mat;)

Cheers:thumbsup:

I have just spent the last 7 years working on the (lower) Manor, the area near Pipworth/Waltheof Schools.

The area does seem to have had a lot of money directed at various schemes over the recent years, but it has done nothing to improve the outlook for the younger members of the community. The area is plagued by a violent, lawless minority whos' only object in life appears to be to thwart all the hard work that is done by the local community groups.

This can be seen in the crime and vandalism that occurs daily in the area - I have not seen anything in 'The Star' that I couldn't relate to. This minority have no respect for the residents, the workers, the people who try to improve their lives and are quite happy to give the appearance that they care whilst laughing behind the backs of authority.

I'm very glad you used the word minority. The manor is a big place and not every bit is that bad fortunately! I have heard bad things about that part myself, but I think you'll find that the majority of people would prefer to improve the area as a whole.

Yes, very definitely a minority, a VERY low percentile of the overall population. However, the amount of trouble that this minority seem able to cause in relation to their numbers is extraordinary and they also seem able to easily introduce new members to the 'fold'.

the Manopr is a large area and a small bit of it is full of idiots. It is affordable and friendly. Live in a bad bit and yes it is bad. Most of it is affordable and fine.

Any fresh information would be greatly appreciated!!:D

Originally posted by chez26
Any fresh information would be greatly appreciated!!:D

Just a thought, but if you did a search for 'Manor' on the site it might bring up something.

Mat:cool:

Originally posted by mat1978
Chez,

Housing

Very good on the whole, much better since the demolision of the 1920s houses. The new build around Fairleigh etc looks very smart.
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Thats all well and good - but who in their right mind would want to live in a place thats got the reputation that the manor has?
Not me personally- I cant abide the place.


Layout
Excellent. Manor/Manor Park is not what you would call a 'typical' Inner city area in terms of layout. AFAIK, there are no terraced housing. Most houses have large garden areas and there is acres of green space - having said this, some of the green areas have become run down and look a mess. Roads also need attention, alot of the minor roads seem to be made out of concrete slabs?
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So its basically a **** tip then?


Services

First Class.

3 different GP surgeries (Manor Top, White House, Manor Park Centre), Dentist, Chemists, local shops, Supermarket, Takeaways, Hairdresses, Large Sports Centre, Primary and Secondary School, Youth Clubs - etc etc etc.
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Now you have got all this @ the manor--
so please tell me why you still have the yobs around the area?
Most places dont have a large sports centre and youth clubs.. especially from where I just moved from.. and we dont have the trouble that you have. Wonder why that is.


People

I might be abit biased here ;) but most people are friendly, approachable and have a strong sense of community spirit.
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Then on the other side of the coin - you get the yobbo element who are making the manor a **** tip.
Community spirit!


Crime

I dont know statistics for crime in the area but Im sure you could explore this. I would guess that it is higher than some areas of the city but lower than others.
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You well know how bad the manor is - as do many people on this forum-- its a **** tip. I would not want to even walk round the place never mind live there with a family.


Summary

I guess that most people have preconceptions of the Manor, not helped by the media and the way it portrays it. The Star is one of the biggest offenders, last month there was a feature on ASB and the pictures they showed were of the Manor Park Centre PRIOR to the revamp so it looked how they wanted it too. Another picture was of some kids jumping on a bus shelter - it wasnt even on the Manor (Wybourn).
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Its still a **** place to live though is it not?
Many people who have the choice would not move into the area due to the fact that its reputation stinks .. and it aint the media giving it the bad rep- its the idiot element that live there.


There has been alot of money pumped into this area - most of which has been good and well use.
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Drugs purposes mainly -- and also the cash that comes in from stolen goods- dont forget that.


I suppose it doesnt matter what 'other'people think about an area,
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Well, yeah it does matter really-- cos the idiots in the manor are the ones that are spoiling sheffield in a way, and that means people are going to be put off living there... so the area is just going to get worse and worse is it not?


The only opinions that count are from those who live there - and I wouldnt be willing to bet that the vast majority of Manor folk you speek to would say they love the place.
Mat;)
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That may be right what you say about the 'manor peoples' views counting -- thats probably because you want to whitewash the fact that you live in a dump.
No offence again to the normal element of the manor - just the yobbo's again.


You have got the reputation of living in if not the worst area in sheffield to live.. but have a happy new year though!
Hope things get a hell of a lot better for you round there.

Bless.

It's your kind of ignorance I can do without!!:rant: How dare you say I live in a dump!! I have lived here 2 years and my house is very nice as are the houses around mine. Unless you have walked the streets and looked at every house you have NO right to comment!!!!! I moved here from a very respectable area in Blackpool and have experienced no trouble at all. I get on with my neighbours and have made some very good friends since moving here. Like I said don't judge people with your own ignorant opinions!!! Some parts of manor are quite bad but I can assure you I do not live in a dump!!!:x I started this thread to help me with a project I am doing, not for you to be insulting to people.

Originally posted by chez26
It's your kind of ignorance I can do without!!:rant: How dare you say I live in a dump!! I have lived here 2 years and my house is very nice as are the houses around mine. Unless you have walked the streets and looked at every house you have NO right to comment!!!!! I moved here from a very respectable area in Blackpool and have experienced no trouble at all. I get on with my neighbours and have made some very good friends since moving here. Like I said don't judge people with your own ignorant opinions!!! Some parts of manor are quite bad but I can assure you I do not live in a dump!!!:x I started this thread to help me with a project I am doing, not for you to be insulting to people.

Like I said the minority are causing the problem.
And please dont be offended if you are not one of the yobbo's as my views were intirely intended for them.

Well how about that.

Ithink I smell a rat boom boom boom!

Originally posted by venger
Well how about that.

Ithink I smell a rat boom boom boom!

?????
Explain please.

In that case I apologise. I agree with you there though, there are people who make it difficult for decent poeple to have a happy life. I just wish the world was a better place:)

Originally posted by chez26
It's your kind of ignorance I can do without!!:rant: How dare you say I live in a dump!! I have lived here 2 years and my house is very nice as are the houses around mine. Unless you have walked the streets and looked at every house you have NO right to comment!!!!! I moved here from a very respectable area in Blackpool and have experienced no trouble at all. I get on with my neighbours and have made some very good friends since moving here. Like I said don't judge people with your own ignorant opinions!!! Some parts of manor are quite bad but I can assure you I do not live in a dump!!!:x I started this thread to help me with a project I am doing, not for you to be insulting to people.

I've got to ask though-- why move from a respectable area in blackpool to the manor though?

No offence again so please dont take it as such.

I don't smell any rats??:confused: I'm not sure I understand???

Originally posted by chez26
I just wish the world was a better place:)

Here here!!

Originally posted by venger
Well how about that.

Ithink I smell a rat boom boom boom!

Bless!
lmao!!!

I have been asked many times why I moved here. The truth is for personel reasons I had to move. I needed a house and finances being low and because I lived out of Sheffield this was the only area I was offered. Admitidly I may not have chosen to live here as I to have heard bad things, but it really isn't that bad where I live. One or two kids about but fairly quiet most of the time. No offense taken:)

hmmmmm, Angelus, please tell us how you know so much about the Manor? I take you have lived here as you seem to have rather strong views about it....


Mat

Originally posted by chez26
I have been asked many times why I moved here. The truth is for personel reasons I had to move. I needed a house and finances being low and because I lived out of Sheffield this was the only area I was offered. Admitidly I may not have chosen to live here as I to have heard bad things, but it really isn't that bad where I live. One or two kids about but fairly quiet most of the time. No offense taken:)

You see- if there was more people like you round there.
The Manor would be sorted!

:blush: That's very kind of you, I agree:D

Originally posted by mat1978
hmmmmm, Angelus, please tell us how you know so much about the Manor? I take you have lived here as you seem to have rather strong views about it....

Mat

I dont live there Mat- suprising enough!
And I know you are going to have a nice little go at me now for saying that- so please continue.

My views come from 25 years of living out of the way of the manor and from the views of people I have spoke to - so its word of mouth mostly.

And the words that people mostly use about the manor is that 'they wouldnt live there for all the money in the world'
(No offence to chez26 and the rest of the nice people who live there!)

Too much druggery- too much thuggery.

I have this conversation with others many times before. I do realise that there are problems - just as there are with many other areas in the city. I dont think you should base opinions on the things people have said to you, if you are willing to believe the bad stuff why not take on board the good stuff?

Which of my points on housing, services etc etc do you particularly disagree with?

The other thing is the Manor/Manor Park has changed alot of the last few years, investment has brought about a real change in the look of the place and I believe this has had an impact on other aspects.