Nothing makes me cringe more than hearing children spout forth with obscene language.

I hear it so often that I assume that it has almost become the norm. What on earth do their parents think? Where do they hear such language?

Yes I can swear like the rest of em (and frequently do) but I wouldn't dream of swearing in front of my children. I was always brought up to believe that swearing was practised by people with very limited vocabularies.

Does it bother you or do you see it as just an extension of the English language?

Whatever your age, how do you view bad language?

There's a time and a place.

I can swear like a squaddie, when it's required, but I noticed that a good vocabulary usually gets a better result.

Billy Connolly wouldn't be quite so funny without 'f***' :thumbsup:

Kids swearing in public makes me cringe. I don't think very highly of their parents

Some people's language has to be heard to be believed - and with the stuff some parents spout I'm not suprised that their kids constantly use it. How many times have you heard a young mother telling her child to, 'get 'ere you little *&^%&^ before I..
.........and so on and so forth'? It's so sad that some children are being born into such a way of life.
Some people seem to love an audience too and think nothing of giving everyone an earful which I find unbelievable. If this is what it's like now, then I dread to think what it'll be like by the time all of my children are married.

i never swore infront of my parents until they caught me at about 15 calling my sister a 'b' word ;) .... well she wouldnt get out the bathroom!

it seems that its a joke nowadays and parents show off there young ones swearing....`awww luk at him he's only 5 and he's saying that word hehe how funni'

bad parenting.

Originally posted by Strix
Billy Connolly wouldn't be quite so funny without 'f***' :thumbsup:


His son used to swear from an early age

Apparently his parents had to carry a fork around with them to pretend that he was asking for a fork in polite company when he said the f- word.

Originally posted by tiffy
Some people's language has to be heard to be believed - and with the stuff some parents spout I'm not suprised that their kids constantly use it. How many times have you heard a young mother telling her child to, 'get 'ere you little *&^%&^ before I..
.........and so on and so forth'? It's so sad that some children are being born into such a way of life.
Some people seem to love an audience too and think nothing of giving everyone an earful which I find unbelievable. If this is what it's like now, then I dread to think what it'll be like by the time all of my children are married.

I was back home last weekend and heard a delightful young mother tell her sprog "Shut the f**k up or i'll murder ya"!!!!

awww dinp... thats lovely! i feel all warm inside. wish my mum treated me like that, i feel so neglected.

She probably wasnt joking though, I wasnt even listening to the converstion and had no choice but to hear it!

Corby's full of scallies anyway...

Originally posted by dinp
Corby's full of scallies anyway... Oi!! Scallies are Scousers. Corby's full of people with Scottish origins, and those that aren't have a Scottish style accent anyway! :D

awww doesnt it make you all warm and cuddly when you see /hear a young mother drag her toddler backwards down the street by the hood of his coat screamin hurry up little B*****d.. its a disgrace but times we live in unfortunately and like the saying goes , "The latest generation blames the last" ........

Originally posted by Strix
Oi!! Scallies are Scousers. Corby's full of people with Scottish origins, and those that aren't have a Scottish style accent anyway! :D

I fit into category two I suppose 'scottish-style'. I've no kids I can threaten to murder though ;)

my kids are great...I am not the cleanest mouthed person I know and on occasions will happily turn the air blue.

Both my kids have slipped out a swear word mid sentence...was the last time they did. They don't swear - at least not to my knowledge and put mummy to shame.

moon

I can't stand to see juveniles swearing every other word. And I don't like to see adults swearing in front of kids either.

If parents regularly swear, then it is almost certain that their kids will hear them swear, and then you can't really blame the kids for swearing too. If people are really bothered about kids swearing then they should set an example and stop swearing themselves.

Parents don't swear when their children are around, and children don't swear when their parents are around.

Personally, I don't see the problem. A word is only offensive if someone decides that it's offencive.

I hate sitting on a bus when the kids going home from college are on and all they do is swear at the top of their voices cause it makes them seem cool and hard.
More like a bunch of baby sheep.

My kids don`t do it when I am around and I very rarely swear not even at work.

I don`t see a need for it as often as they use it.

I never swear in front of my parents, so they are probably thinking "my children don't swear", bless 'em.

Originally posted by Mo
Nothing makes me cringe more than hearing children spout forth with obscene language.

I hear it so often that I assume that it has almost become the norm. What on earth do their parents think? Where do they hear such language?

Whatever your age, how do you view bad language?
i hate hearing children using bad lang i also hate common lang. Not asking for the queens, but being polite is a must. I curse like the next person but ill use different words other than F's

On my way in to the office just now I walked for about 200 yards behind two female young of indeterminate age - anything between 12 and 17.

The only parts of the speech (which was very loud) I could follow were 'Yeah', 'You know' and some choice foul language that would make a sergeant major blush.

I do wonder, though, whether a lot of it is a combination of bravado and habit - the language is used because that's the language that they most commonly hear, and they don't know any better.

Problem is when everything is strong language, there is no language left to express real annoyance / fear / anger and so you end up thumping someone...

Joe

we should learn more about feeling and vocab im all up for that. I have one or two (he he) highly intelligent friends who i could listen to all day. we should all broaden our knowledge:D

Kids don`t know what expression is without swearing although I work with 4 under 20`s and they all don`t swear when I am around, respect for me I hope. I must say they can all converse as well.
Hope for the rest then?

I use allsorts of words instead of swearing and they think it`s cool I don`t swear.

I am not your average person though.

im sorry but kids do know which are the naughty words, they understand more than we give them credit for. I know a little boy who is nearly 7, who comes and tells me what naughty words hes heard on the street. he never fully says them as they are naughty - but he know full well, right from wrong

I remember getting a bus home from stannington college about 18 years ago and the little kids from shooters grove school were effing and jeffing like derek and clive. I was shocked at the time, because I couldn't remember swearing when I was their age. In my day if a child was caught swearing by an adult, they were chastised with "do you know what that word means?", and we didn't, and I remember my cousin getting his mouth washed out with soap.

However it seems that the tempering of language was a short lived phenomina anyhow. And it's hardly surpising that children are going to use the most shocking language that's available to them. When they are going to hear it on the media and adults who are their role models. If you go back 150 years, there used to be coarse language in street names place names and other signs. There's a place in one of the scottish islands which is called the T-word. And that's always been more shocking in the north of england than the F-word. Just look at all the westerns, the name for a lady indian (a squaw?) was actually wrong, it was the red indian name for (ladies rude part) or a prostitute. It's funny how perceptions change.
A century ago when the local musical theatres had burlesque shows with rude songs peppered with swear words(sometimes missed out and the audience used to shout them), the children of the time used to get in to trouble for singing them too. Proving that it's not a new problem. Maybe another rose tinted spectacle story? ? ? :o

I personally cant believe the dumb-ass muthaf****** who either swear at their kids or let the f****** s**** swear in public.
They want f***** s**** the c**** who b****** let them do it.

They need f****** k***** the s***** out of!

It's wrong.

I don't swear either and it would take alot to get anything stronger than the word that has two Gs in the middle and begins with B and ends in R.

Like rosie I don't see it as necessary in normal conversation.

I think it sounds awful coming out of children's mouths especially "little ones".

Have you ever asked yourself,"What is swearing"?

Originally posted by Booo
Have you ever asked yourself,"What is swearing"?

No I f-ing haven't :P

Only kidding

Swearing can be many things, when I was in my first years of secondary school, swearing was seen as something 'cool' to do as the older kids used to do it.

I never really used to swear that much then, but I did and that's the point.

Now that I'm older and wiser (well a bit wiser :P) I only swear when necessary, e.g. if I hurt myself.

Swearing can be many things, when I was in my first years of secondary school, swearing was seen as something 'cool' to do as the older kids used to do it.

Ooh IanMitchell - maybe that's what it's all about - 'acting older'. It's the only sense I can make out of the latest trends ie, swearing, drinking, smoking, tatoos, some of the fashion statements they're making and having a partner.

Now I'll be another few years debating whether some people are wasted on being educated up to the age of 16 or whether they should leave school at 12 and go into work. Hmmm!!!

I think Booo is makin a very valid point. If someone here can invent a new swear word. And it can have the most vile, disgusting meaning imaginable. Aside from the few people who know about it, what is the use?

Many of the current mild curses, were previously more taboo, and things like Struth, which is short for "Gods Truth" may have got you into trouble some years ago. Who's to say what is bad or worse. Language is organic. For instance if you are in Mexico and you ask someone if you can throw a stick for their dog, "in spanish of course" then you will be punched in the face. You would be asking if you could fornicate with it. Also there the Word catch "COGER" has become the same as our F word. Although in the rest of the spanish speaking world there's no problem with the word at all.

In Colombia there is a football team called w**ker united. They sell stacks of team shirts to english people.

The word Ass in america is like bum in uk, whereas Arse is much more vulgar. And of course everyone knows that the yanks call a bum bag a F*nny packer

Originally posted by Sidla
Parents don't swear when their children are around, and children don't swear when their parents are around.

Personally, I don't see the problem. A word is only offensive if someone decides that it's offencive.


Eh?

Do you live in Disneyworld?!!

I think I can speak for most people when I say that swearing, especially by children, is a signifier of the demise of societal values. Society gathers together to ensure that generally unacceptable behaviour is not accepted. When societal control fails then we have an anarchic state where anything goes. If you apply your logic on a more macro scale, then if say I agree with kids being severely beaten if they are naughty, does that make it right?

this is a thing that iu find really interesting.

its also something that really cheeses me off!! hypocrits!!

for gods sake parents !! your kid will know all the swearwords in the world by the age of 12!! i know 10year olds who know most of the swear words. and so what??

you use them! why cant a child??? yes i admit there is a time and a place and a limit of how many you can put in a sentence. but they are going to use them!

if anyone has any children sit them down tonight and ask them which words they know. you will find that they know a fair few!

and where do they get them from? EVERYWHERE!! you go to town , you'll hear someone swear, you go to school yuoll here one, FROM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY they always slip out! 9pm onwards TV!


the only way to stop children not kn owing swear words is to have a constant supply of ear plugs!!

Good point Fletch but that doesn't mean we have to like hearing them use it - mine certainly don't swear when I'm there because they know they will be told about it. However this thread is asking what our views are on children swearing not who's fault it is, although from the previous postings I can see how you might have misunderstood/misread this.

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Originally posted by kris_uni
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Thank you, but this has been shown before by someone on this forum.

Most people have seen it I would expect...