Venue needed for northern soul night! [Archive]

Not Intent

08-02-2006, 10:47 PM

Totally agree with soulman:- the "northern" scene's future has got to be to adopt much more modern soul and drop the overplayed, boring, dated stuff that places like Millenium Hall and Samanthas all nighters play. Ponds Forge for me has also gone downhill recently and Davy's is struggling to restablish itself after Carl and Martin left. Another venue would be crazy. You really have to travel well out of town to find a good large well populated venue.How can you agree with soulman, like i said earlier he is just a hypocrite. Comes on here & say's there are too many nights when he runs 2 nights a month at his venue. Dont go telling me that his new night is a modern night either as i was there & if Clyde Mcphater (give me one more chance) is modern soul then i'm the man in the moon!

souldave

08-02-2006, 11:14 PM

How can you agree with soulman, like i said earlier he is just a hypocrite. Comes on here & say's there are too many nights when he runs 2 nights a month at his venue. Dont go telling me that his new night is a modern night either as i was there & if Clyde Mcphater (give me one more chance) is modern soul then i'm the man in the moon!
I have to say I havent been to Red Lion yet but my point is this:- any new event has to contain a mix of soul genres with a bias towards the modern end of Northern and some pure Modern stuff. If someone is going to start nights with purely the old Northern then forget it in this area, there just isn't enough support. The younger audience has to be targeted for the music to continue and there always is a chance if the soul is more Modern and varied.

Not Intent

12-02-2006, 02:14 AM

I have to say I havent been to Red Lion yet but my point is this:- any new event has to contain a mix of soul genres with a bias towards the modern end of Northern and some pure Modern stuff. If someone is going to start nights with purely the old Northern then forget it in this area, there just isn't enough support. The younger audience has to be targeted for the music to continue and there always is a chance if the soul is more Modern and varied.Hi Dave, think the real problem here is that there are younger soul fans out there but they don't really want to spend there nights out with folks the same age as there parents (same as we didn't when we were there age). If you have a walk down Division st on a thursday & go in places like the forum & halcyon bars you'll be suprised by what you hear bieng played to a younger crowd, classic stuff like the Sounds Of Blackness gets played alongside the more contemporary new soulful house tracks. The average age of the punters is about 22. When you go to the red lion or any of the other modern soul venues in South Yorks like modernism in Rotherham or the earl in Doncaster you will see the average age is about 44 (same as all the northern nights).
The problem with the "modern soul scene" is that it is a little bubble stuck inside a slightly larger bubble (the northern scene) & the folks in the bubble don't want to accept any new faces invading there space. The promoters of the 3 mentioned venue's don't help matters as how do they promote there nights? they drop fliers at each others venues & thats about it.
Let's look at each night individually, The red lion is at Todwick, great for the older traveling crowd but how many younger faces are bothered about going there? None.
Modernism in Rotherham, next to the town centre so the younger crowd are there but it"s established as a rock venue! can't exactly see any motorhead fans crossing over somehow, can you? Appeal to younger soul fans, None.
The Earl in Doncaster, nice hotel but primarily aimed at the northern punters & the modern room is nothing more than an add on room so how many younger soul fans are going to know about it? None.
This is not a personal dig at any of the promoters of the above venues as i know them all personally & regularly attend all there nights & i know they are all passionate in there love of soul music.
There is talk of a summer modern soul festival to take place later in the year at a really nice venue in the west edge of the city (i know this as a relative works there so i can't say too much just yet). Let's just hope that it gets promoted properly & attracts crowds from all age groups (possibly on galaxy & in the local Sheff record shops maybe along with the usual flier method?).
Hopefully this will give the promoters of the other venues a shove in the right direction so they will see where they are going wrong & fans of soul music of all ages will benifit from it...

FunkyHouse

12-02-2006, 11:32 AM

I need a venue for a northern soul night that i am looking to start in sheffield!
something around 150 - 200 capacity and relatively near to the centre.
If anyone has any information, it would be grately appreciated.

You could try the Notty House in Broomhill, not sure what the capacity is but the landlady is always looking to put on nights etc, of all types and varieties. www.nottyhouse.co.uk - The Manager is called Jo.

dimitrysoul

12-02-2006, 03:57 PM

think the real problem here is that there are younger soul fans out there but they don't really want to spend there nights out with folks the same age as there parents (same as we didn't when ew were there age). If you have a walk down Division st on a thursday & go in places like the forum & halcyon bars you'll be suprised by what you hear bieng played to a younger crowd, classic stuff like the Sounds Of Blackness gets played alongside the more contemporary new soulful house tracks. The average age of the punters is about 22. ..

I agree with the above quote and i always believed it to be a fair assumption that different age groups dont mix but on a Friday we get people enjoying Soul music cause they love it regardless of their age

Downstairs at Takapuna every Friday
Tom Tom Club

Jean Carne
Masters at Work
Natalie Cole
John Legend
Bobby Womack

the best Philly and Motown and classic soul and funk

Tom23

12-02-2006, 04:16 PM

BAR ABBEY on Abbeydale Road is available every night, Contact the Snooker Club above it for more info & it has a bar & equipment

Tom23

12-02-2006, 04:17 PM

Masters at Work

not the really big ones surely?

souldave

12-02-2006, 06:04 PM

Hi Dave, think the real problem here is that there are younger soul fans out there but they don't really want to spend there nights out with folks the same age as there parents (same as we didn't when we were there age). If you have a walk down Division st on a thursday & go in places like the forum & halcyon bars you'll be suprised by what you hear bieng played to a younger crowd, classic stuff like the Sounds Of Blackness gets played alongside the more contemporary new soulful house tracks. The average age of the punters is about 22. When you go to the red lion or any of the other modern soul venues in South Yorks like modernism in Rotherham or the earl in Doncaster you will see the average age is about 44 (same as all the northern nights).
The problem with the "modern soul scene" is that it is a little bubble stuck inside a slightly larger bubble (the northern scene) & the folks in the bubble don't want to accept any new faces invading there space. The promoters of the 3 mentioned venue's don't help matters as how do they promote there nights? they drop fliers at each others venues & thats about it.
Let's look at each night individually, The red lion is at Todwick, great for the older traveling crowd but how many younger faces are bothered about going there? None.
Modernism in Rotherham, next to the town centre so the younger crowd are there but it"s established as a rock venue! can't exactly see any motorhead fans crossing over somehow, can you? Appeal to younger soul fans, None.
The Earl in Doncaster, nice hotel but primarily aimed at the northern punters & the modern room is nothing more than an add on room so how many younger soul fans are going to know about it? None.
This is not a personal dig at any of the promoters of the above venues as i know them all personally & regularly attend all there nights & i know they are all passionate in there love of soul music.
There is talk of a summer modern soul festival to take place later in the year at a really nice venue in the west edge of the city (i know this as a relative works there so i can't say too much just yet). Let's just hope that it gets promoted properly & attracts crowds from all age groups (possibly on galaxy & in the local Sheff record shops maybe along with the usual flier method?).
Hopefully this will give the promoters of the other venues a shove in the right direction so they will see where they are going wrong & fans of soul music of all ages will benifit from it...
Point taken:- surprisingly enough I do agree with what you say but I have found a different situation on Togetherness weekends particularly Fleetwood/Whitby where there does in fact seem a younger element in attendance in the Modern Rooms. I would have said 25 to 35 age group. Maybe its different when it comes to "run of the mill" local events like the one you've mentioned.

bossman

12-02-2006, 10:18 PM

souldave

13-02-2006, 08:06 PM

i agree with not intent how arrogant can you get saying the soul scenes saturated and if true puts on another night at the same venue, then states get educated with soul music at the red lion.:gag:
Having been to quite a few nights myself over the country I'll agree with souldave their is a young ellement coming through.
Can't comment on ponds forge going down hill but don't they play modern soul
? I know their is modern room at Earl of Doncaster ?
Gaztat welcome to the soul scene hope you find the right venue and get the punters in Would like to see a sheffield city centre venue :)
Went to Ponds forge 3 months ago and I thought the music was dire.Anything more recent than 1965 was in very short supply.Not sure who dj's are now maybe not intent can shed some light. 2 to 3 years ago the later dj spots featured quite a lot of modern stuff incl some good rare philly numbers but as I said since then ,for me, very poor.Do Drax nights feature much modern stuff??? Sorry Gaztat seem to be going away from the original thread!!! I do hope you succeed , best of luck!

Not Intent

13-02-2006, 09:16 PM

Went to Ponds forge 3 months ago and I thought the music was dire.Anything more recent than 1965 was in very short supply.Not sure who dj's are now maybe not intent can shed some light. 2 to 3 years ago the later dj spots featured quite a lot of modern stuff incl some good rare philly numbers but as I said since then ,for me, very poor.Do Drax nights feature much modern stuff??? Sorry Gaztat seem to be going away from the original thread!!! I do hope you succeed , best of luck!I think the thing with Ponds Forge is the fact that it clashes with the Red Lion so the modern fans started to go to the lion rather than a venue that catered for everybody but it is still the best northern night in the area (IMO). Now that most of the modern fans are at the Lion the DJ'S have to play to the punters that are left & in fairness to the lads at Ponds Forge they are now in there 6th year & they do book the best guests from all over the country Soul Sam, Jo Wallace, Terry Davies, Pat Brady etc. (Chris Anderton played some nice stuff last week that included some nice 70s rarities). As for the Drax, it's more of a party night & they do get a lot of stick for playing tracks off CD'S so it's not a night for the purist vinyl collectors but it does get packed twice a month. Thing is they are following the same path as the Red Lion (overkill) & soon the punters will get bored of it & numbers will dwindle & here lies the problem, while they are doubling up at these venues other nights are suffering attendance wise & in the end some will fall by the wayside so the whole scene suffers due to a few greedy promoters.
Sorry for invading your thread Gastat but i felt these issues needed raising.

NorthernSoul

13-02-2006, 11:08 PM

I need a venue for a northern soul night that i am looking to start in sheffield!
something around 150 - 200 capacity and relatively near to the centre.
If anyone has any information, it would be grately appreciated.

hi gaztat

are you on the northern scene?

do i know you?

would be interested in what you hope to achieve.

i am a moderator on a soul forum - www.soul-source.co.uk

check it out

cheers

Hanski

14-02-2006, 02:00 PM

How about the Forum? PM if you are interested

bossman

14-02-2006, 07:56 PM

NorthernSoul

14-02-2006, 08:12 PM

As someone who did go to ponds forge up untill like yourself 2 years ago, i'm very supprised that the music being played has changed as they were allways forward thinking and a little bit diverse as soul music goes.
It's a shame as it was promoted as a across the board night which is rare on the soul music front.:shocked: :confused: :(
Where is the Drax nights may have to pay a little visit ? :thumbsup: :banana:

ponds forge is still the best soul event in south yorkshire imo.

i cover manchester, london and leeds as well as ponds forge every month attending soul nights/allnighters.

drax is fine if you want a party atmosphere but for me i prefer the more forward thinking venues that insist on playing original vinyl as opposed to oldies being played on boots and cd's.

the soul scene has never been so busy. The annual northern soul weekender in prestatyn (n.wales) has sold out with over 3500 people attending in march.

if anyone wants to know whats happening let me know. i can point you in the right direction for sure.

you can also check out a soul forum that i help to moderate - www.soul-source.co.uk

Going back to the original thread - does the poster have any knowledge of the northern soul scene? its a very close knit community with decades of tradition and knowledge. not an easy scene to just decide on promoting an event. however, i wish him/her lots of luck.

bossman

14-02-2006, 08:40 PM

ponds forge is still the best soul event in south yorkshire imo.

i cover manchester, london and leeds as well as ponds forge every month attending soul nights/allnighters.

drax is fine if you want a party atmosphere but for me i prefer the more forward thinking venues that insist on playing original vinyl as opposed to oldies being played on boots and cd's.

the soul scene has never been so busy. The annual northern soul weekender in prestatyn (n.wales) has sold out with over 3500 people attending in march.

if anyone wants to know whats happening let me know. i can point you in the right direction for sure.

you can also check out a soul forum that i help to moderate - www.soul-source.co.uk

Going back to the original thread - does the poster have any knowledge of the northern soul scene? its a very close knit community with decades of tradition and knowledge. not an easy scene to just decide on promoting an event. however, i wish him/her lots of luck.
I just thought i'd pay Drax as a visit as i don't mind attending somewhere different it's like a breath of fresh air,as the northern scene sometimes becomes a little too intense on what's being played and who's actually playing it.
I like yourself will be attending prestatyn and in the past have travelled all over following my love of soul music,which i collect on vinyl lp's singles Cd's and sometimes don't really care which format i hear it in as long as it's the right sound for me.:thumbsup:

dimitrysoul

15-02-2006, 09:31 AM

I like yourself will be attending prestatyn and in the past have travelled all over following my love of soul music,which i collect on vinyl lp's singles Cd's and sometimes don't really care which format i hear it in as long as it's the right sound for me.:thumbsup:

Now that is a breath of fresh air

NorthernSoul

15-02-2006, 10:32 AM

I just thought i'd pay Drax as a visit as i don't mind attending somewhere different it's like a breath of fresh air,as the northern scene sometimes becomes a little too intense on what's being played and who's actually playing it.
I like yourself will be attending prestatyn and in the past have travelled all over following my love of soul music,which i collect on vinyl lp's singles Cd's and sometimes don't really care which format i hear it in as long as it's the right sound for me.:thumbsup:

hi bossman

each to their own but without the hunger for original vinyl, the scene would have died years ago.

give respect to the guys that spend a lot of time and money searching for the elusive 45s. if you aint got the original vinyl you shouldnt be dj-ing in my opinion. anyone can go to HMV and spend 50 quid on cds. there are thousands of rare soul collectors who could do an imaginative and entertaining set of original vinyl.

its far from a breath of fresh air. since when has doing things on the cheap and easy been a breath of fresh air?

a breath of fresh air is something new and exciting - playing cd copies of records is backwards looking to say the least.

van gogh or a £5 poster print - who deserves the credit and respect?

just my opinions thats all.

bossman - i will do you a cd of the latest floorfillers on the rare scene if you are interested? would be happy to mate!

cheers

bossman

15-02-2006, 11:32 PM

Hello N. Soul

I s'pose it depends on what you want to get out of the scene really?? Some people just want to go to a night to hear good soul music, meet up with old friends and are not really interested in how rare a record is or its value?
In my mind this is a breath of fresh air, :thumbsup:
think you misunderstood me there??

If somebody wants to search and pay out for rare vinyl (which I admit I do myself) :cool: that's their perogative, but as for this being a pre-requisite of a good soul DJ, what a load of nonsence!

I actually know of one big name DJ (who I won't name) who has copied part of his original vinyl collection onto CD and played it at northern soul events, and it has not been at all detrimental to his set! I even heard of one DJ who put part of his collection onto a laptop to play out, viva la progress!!:banana:

So hear's the question? are these 2 guys doing anything on the cheap?

I agree anybody can go to HMV and spend £50 on cd's - but if like me you are interested in buying ALL GENRES OF SOUL MUSIC (including 70's/80's/ modern/RnB/soulful garage etc) you will find that alot of this excellent music is actually ONLY available on cd ie. its original format! In my mind this new soul mixed in with the old is what helps to keep the scene FRESH.

Finally, I think we all know there is a bit more to DJing than having a good/valuable/rare record collection? It's more about being open minded, and understanding/gageing what the punters want on the night, not showing off the value or rareity of your records and having an empty dancefloor!

Thanks for your offer of a latest floorfiller cd, :confused: :huh:
I won't be taking you up on it - don't they call that bootlegging or summat?
I'll look out for you at Prestatyn and maybe have a beer or 2 :thumbsup:

Regards

Bossman

dimitrysoul

16-02-2006, 03:02 AM

hi bossman

each to their own but without the hunger for original vinyl, the scene would have died years ago.

give respect to the guys that spend a lot of time and money searching for the elusive 45s. if you aint got the original vinyl you shouldnt be dj-ing in my opinion. anyone can go to HMV and spend 50 quid on cds. there are thousands of rare soul collectors who could do an imaginative and entertaining set of original vinyl.

its far from a breath of fresh air. since when has doing things on the cheap and easy been a breath of fresh air?

a breath of fresh air is something new and exciting - playing cd copies of records is backwards looking to say the least.

van gogh or a £5 poster print - who deserves the credit and respect?

just my opinions thats all.

bossman - i will do you a cd of the latest floorfillers on the rare scene if you are interested? would be happy to mate!

cheers

I understand what you are saying I just think as fewer and fewr rarities are to be found maybe we could move on.
I have bought at least one piece of vinyl (soul music) every week since around 1977...without fail. I never miss out on the opportunity to go in a record shop to find that illusive track. I guess you never lose the habit.

Everything is now recorded to CD when I get them home.

I would certainly never encourage the 'on the cheap' scenario

My point stems from having booked certain big names on the Northern scene.
I used to run the Brooklands Northern event.
There were some (big name) DJs that actually struggled with the concept of cuing a record up. Unfortunately for them, despite having the ability to programme a brilliant set, they lost the floor due to; silences, jumps , the sound of styli running acroos the slipmat etc not good.

Without doubt CD would benefit an ageing DJ community.

Lets face it you are not going to doubt that Ginger Taylor, Richard Searling etc are going to have the original 7" are you?

Any way its all about opinions.

D

NorthernSoul

16-02-2006, 10:09 AM

jake

16-02-2006, 10:16 AM

give respect to the guys that spend a lot of time and money searching for the elusive 45s. if you aint got the original vinyl you shouldnt be dj-ing in my opinion.

Good to see Northern Soul still remains the most trainspotter of genres!

:)

NorthernSoul

16-02-2006, 11:19 AM

Good to see Northern Soul still remains the most trainspotter of genres!

:)

and your point?

why not make the post appealing to at least one more person than yourself??

jake

16-02-2006, 01:45 PM

and your point?

why not make the post appealing to at least one more person than yourself??

Northern Soul isnt like techno where (arguably) vinyl is preferable for mixing/scratching - why does it matter if the DJ plays on CD or vinyl if the tunes are good?

Northern Soul (the music NOT your login name) has a reputation for being a bit trainspotter - the actual music seems to take second fiddle to the medium - which you made very clear has to be vinyl - and no doubt ideally the original pressing.

(that was my point...)

NorthernSoul

16-02-2006, 02:47 PM

Northern Soul isnt like techno where (arguably) vinyl is preferable for mixing/scratching - why does it matter if the DJ plays on CD or vinyl if the tunes are good?

Northern Soul (the music NOT your login name) has a reputation for being a bit trainspotter - the actual music seems to take second fiddle to the medium - which you made very clear has to be vinyl - and no doubt ideally the original pressing.

(that was my point...)

hi jake, i can see your point mate.

however, let me give a few opinions why original vinyl is the only medium to be considered.

an allnighter will usually feature 8 dj's all playing a 1 hour spots. If a dj has just spent 10 years trying to find a particular 45 and had to pay £1500 for it he will be dying to give it a spin. however, just before he hits the stage another dj plays the same record off a cd. do you think this scenario lacks respect? i certainly do.

if cd's are accepted what incentive is there for dj's to continue searching the junk shops of detroit looking for gems originally over-looked by the general public? a guy will spend a lot of time and money crate-digging to build up an original and exciting set list. why should he do this just so another guy can do the same set with all these rare tunes on a cd?

i go to london every fortnight to events. i know full well that i have to travel to hear certain tunes cos these tunes are exclusive to particular dj's. there is still great 45s been unearthed all the time.i would not travel all that way to hear some guy playing cd's. i can stay at home and listen to cds.

the scene has always been about vinyl. no dj who plays cds is pushing the scene forward. they are pretending and kidding themselves. if you aint got a certain record, play another record. simple as.

you are right it is like trainspotting. this attitude is not exclusive to the soul scene though. i am sure a lot of the new dance dj's insist on the original white labels too.

however, i have no problem if a venue doesnt claim to be playing original vinyl and allows punters in free.

northern soul is the ultimate underground scene. no major corporate company can make a bean out of it. the punters own it. its controlled totally by the punters and not by the media.

just a joke here.....cd's even hide themselves away in shame in that little cartridge. vinyl will spin proudly upon a deck. :P

cheers

bossman

16-02-2006, 02:54 PM

its only bootlegging if you copy a legit cd release. my cd would feature tracks copied from original vinyl that have never been officially issued on cd. therefore it aint bootlegging. i would also supply it free of charge. i swap cd's all the time.

its not about rarity or value either. its about being true to yourself and your punters. keeping it real in other words

i know the dj who copied his vinyl onto his laptop. embarrasing.

i wouldnt attend a venue that played cd's. i would like to think i am part of a progressive scene where nostaglia plays a much smaller part.

anyway, each to their own. nice talking to you all.

check out the site i work on www..soul-source.co.uk

cheers
HI N.Soul
It's really great to see that their is someone with the passion and enthusiasm still involved in the scene,:thumbsup:
This will help it progress and flourish but it also needs the input of technology and new music to help the process.
If it wasn't for technology we wouldn't be having this conversation now Therefore it can only be a good thing !:smile:

As for the DJ with the laptop we all know he has the records that he plays and many many more on top of that.
Imagine he's playing a £4000 record when somebody accidently bangs into decks and puts 1 mighty big scratch down it ?
To get insurance also can be an issue ?
Or when you think about it we're not all built like Arnie records do weigh quite a lot and most of the big name DJ's no disrespect intended aren't young so carrying a box of 500 records does not come very easy.
So embarrasing no practical yes :thumbsup:

I think the trainspotter comment i could be wrong comes out of do you dance to the record or do you go running up to the decks just to look at it Personally i'd sooner show my appreciation by having a dance to it Records are best heard not looked at in my opinion.

Like i said previously more and more music is available on CD I've got some rare 70's/80's vinyl albums which had taken me absolutely years to get hold of has now to my astonishment at the time being released on CD. Not from HMV but from a very well known respected record dealer.
I went out and bought them so i can now listen to it in the car and on my phone a little bit more progress there.

like you say a matter of opinions what is the difference of copying tracks from Vinyl to CD or CD to CD ? whether your paying for it or not your still breaking copy right laws Your also stopping someone going out and purchasing those tracks.
As for buying CDs one of the advantages is that the original artists have more chance of getting their royalties and recognition
because of the likes of HMV they has more chance of this happening .

I've had a look at your site and find it very interesting and good to see that there is still passionate people around but on a personal point of view all though i do love soul music i'm not as passionate as some of those on your forum but never the less I will at some point join in to some of these dicussions and banter etc
ps have a look at these even more technology http://www.audioturntable.com/about/index.html
regards

Bossman

Not Intent

18-02-2006, 11:06 AM

Not Intent

18-02-2006, 11:06 AM

NorthernSoul

18-02-2006, 12:45 PM

Hi Northern Soul, Read all your'e comments with great interest & you don't half like stepping on banana skins:hihi:
Your'e the guy who regularly attends venues like Ponds Forge selling records arn'et you. Ever sold any bootlegs? I think we all know the answer don't we?
So it's ok for you & others to sell bootlegs (how legal is this?) but a DJ gets ripped to bits for playing a legitimate re-issue. Suppose you sell a bootleg to a DJ & he then goes & plays it in his set an hour later? Arn'et you as guilty as him as you supplied it to him:cool:
How mugh money does the original artist recieve for the sale of these bootlegs or any originals you sell for that matter?
NOTHING.
At least the artist recieves a percentage of the sales for a legitimate CD (the recent Kent, Goldmine & Expantion releases spring to mind).
You are as bad as the Soulman from the Red Lion (who noticeably has not replied to my comments earlier in this thread)
Another hypocrite me thinks :gag:

i have never sold a bootleg at ponds forge. where did you get that info from?

remove the hypocrite comment out of respect please.

why are you so arrogant?

i am not talking morals here. i have personal opinion that if you aint got an original record - dont play it.

also, dont be fooled in believing artists always get a cut from re-issue sales.

my argument isn't about the artists anyway. i originally praised the venues who insist on doing things the proper way. when you live and breathe the soul scene it is important that things are continually moving forward and this is the sole reason why i support the guys doing this.

thing is i probably know you and get on well with you lol.

cheers

deon

18-02-2006, 04:22 PM

hey come on guys!! less of the bickering, i understand what your saying but i allways remember when everyone from all over the country in the northern scene were best of mates and noone fell out over tunes apart from if it was rare and someone grabbed it before i could get it::( (wigan casino" was the place to be in the 70s early 80s it would be great if we could all reunite like the old days:hihi:

Not Intent

18-02-2006, 07:29 PM

i have never sold a bootleg at ponds forge. where did you get that info from?

remove the hypocrite comment out of respect please.

why are you so arrogant?

i am not talking morals here. i have personal opinion that if you aint got an original record - dont play it.

also, dont be fooled in believing artists always get a cut from re-issue sales.

my argument isn't about the artists anyway. i originally praised the venues who insist on doing things the proper way. when you live and breathe the soul scene it is important that things are continually moving forward and this is the sole reason why i support the guys doing this.

thing is i probably know you and get on well with you lol.

cheersOk Northern Soul i apologise for the bootleg comments i threw at you. Maybe i jumped in a bit there, sorry. I know stuff like this happens though.
Regarding the comments i made about re-issue labels i know 2 of the labels i mentioned make sure funds get back to the artists, im sure you know which 2.
A lot of my anger towards the northern scene is the higher ground a lot of the fans of this genre take. I attend lots of underground music events across the country & i seem to find that northern punters generally tend to think they are a bit better than everyone else. Most of the nights i attend are northern nights but i also turn out at modern nights & also go to ska nights & doo-wop events but i never seem to see the snobbery that i see on the northern scene.
A classic example is the amount of money that changes hands for vinyl, just take tracks like Charles Sheffield or the 5 Royals - £20 on the doo-wop scene, £300+ plus on the northern scene - Whats all that about?:loopy:
Thanks for the link to your site by the way, very imformative:thumbsup:

Regarding knowing me, you occasionally nod your head at me at venues you see me at but i will introduce myself to you at the next Ponds Forge & we can share a beer. I might even have a look through your sales box but be warned, im paying doo-wop prices LOL

Not Intent.

NorthernSoul

19-02-2006, 07:37 PM

Ok Northern Soul i apologise for the bootleg comments i threw at you. Maybe i jumped in a bit there, sorry. I know stuff like this happens though.
Regarding the comments i made about re-issue labels i know 2 of the labels i mentioned make sure funds get back to the artists, im sure you know which 2.
A lot of my anger towards the northern scene is the higher ground a lot of the fans of this genre take. I attend lots of underground music events across the country & i seem to find that northern punters generally tend to think they are a bit better than everyone else. Most of the nights i attend are northern nights but i also turn out at modern nights & also go to ska nights & doo-wop events but i never seem to see the snobbery that i see on the northern scene.
A classic example is the amount of money that changes hands for vinyl, just take tracks like Charles Sheffield or the 5 Royals - £20 on the doo-wop scene, £300+ plus on the northern scene - Whats all that about?:loopy:
Thanks for the link to your site by the way, very imformative:thumbsup:

Regarding knowing me, you occasionally nod your head at me at venues you see me at but i will introduce myself to you at the next Ponds Forge & we can share a beer. I might even have a look through your sales box but be warned, im paying doo-wop prices LOL

Not Intent.

nice one.

:thumbsup:

Calahan

23-02-2006, 02:40 AM

Gotta admit, i love my soul of the Northern variety! It's a real stamp collector of a scene - would be interesting to know what people's 'Penny Black' track was!! ;) On another note, i work with a wicked promotions company called Alchemy - they got a finger deep in a whole load of pies - Funk, Soul, Motown, Rock n Roll...as well as bigging up a whole load of upcoming local acts. I know the main man is proper connected and he just loves music of most genres. Passionate some might say. If you're after a bit of advice or DJs/bands etc...Alchemy would be a good bet. Drop em a line at alchemyentertainment@hotmail.com - top lot!! Harking back to the original question...DNR Live would be a good venue. They already got independent Funk and Mod promoters doin stuff there (amongst others) - Northern Soul would slip in as if it was lubricated! ;) Get in touch with John (i think) at Dove and Rainbow - he'll sort you.

Soulgirl

09-03-2006, 09:19 PM

bossman

11-03-2006, 05:28 PM

1st prize awarded to Northern Soul.... firstly for flying the flag for vinly then promptly offering to send CD's LOL.

Secondly for mentioning that he's a moderator over at soulsource on more than one occasion... actually, that only achieves a bronze plaque.

It's the same old arguement from the anoraks and the same response from those who have moved with the times. Good on ya sheffieldforum :D

If I don't make it back alive from Prestatyn please offer this post as evidence to the police investigating my murder :D

You be carefull and keep away from Northern Soul you'll recognise him as he'll be the 1 wearing 36" flares soul bags a white vest with patches of all the soul nights he wished he'd been to and 1 that applies especially to him the Keeper of the faith :nod: :hihi: :lol:

NorthernSoul

11-03-2006, 05:48 PM

1st prize awarded to Northern Soul.... firstly for flying the flag for vinly then promptly offering to send CD's LOL.

Secondly for mentioning that he's a moderator over at soulsource on more than one occasion... actually, that only achieves a bronze plaque.

It's the same old arguement from the anoraks and the same response from those who have moved with the times. Good on ya sheffieldforum :D

If I don't make it back alive from Prestatyn please offer this post as evidence to the police investigating my murder :D

sorry for the boring reply but i aint against cd's for home entertainment. i just dont believe you should dj at a northern event with them.

karen, i wont murder you at prestatyn but i will ask why you are on a sheffield forum?? :huh: :D

see you in sunny wales next week

:D

Not Intent

11-03-2006, 07:02 PM

karen, i wont murder you at prestatyn but i will ask why you are on a sheffield forum?? :huh: :D

see you in sunny wales next week

:DThat's funny coming from someone who live's in Worksop :huh:

Sorry i couldn't make Ponds Forge to buy you the drink last night, was at another northern night in Barnsley & it wasn't very good to say the least. Should have known better:( How was Ponds Forge?

See you in Prestatyn, i'll be the one wearing the "I AM PETE SMITH" T shirt:hihi:

bossman

11-03-2006, 07:10 PM

Soulgirl

11-03-2006, 07:31 PM

sorry for the boring reply but i aint against cd's for home entertainment. i just dont believe you should dj at a northern event with them.

karen, i wont murder you at prestatyn but i will ask why you are on a sheffield forum?? :huh: :D

see you in sunny wales next week

:D

I joined this years ago as they were talking about me in 2003 I think :D I was being nosey, as always :D

NorthernSoul

11-03-2006, 08:28 PM

That's funny coming from someone who live's in Worksop :huh:

Sorry i couldn't make Ponds Forge to buy you the drink last night, was at another northern night in Barnsley & it wasn't very good to say the least. Should have known better:( How was Ponds Forge?

See you in Prestatyn, i'll be the one wearing the "I AM PETE SMITH" T shirt:hihi:

lol

i have only been in worksop 6 months of my life. the rest in sheffield where i still work. :D will be moving back later this year.

who are you then?

ponds was sound. shame its been pretty quiet in there the last 6 months. too much on locally i suppose. not many like to go out every week so events within the month locally are having an effect i reckon.

NorthernSoul

11-03-2006, 08:30 PM

edited. posted twice.doh!

NorthernSoul

11-03-2006, 08:31 PM

No I'M PETE SMITH :hihi:

Sorry about Egging you on last night :lol:

blimey i aint anonymous anymore. lol

and who are you then?

bossman

11-03-2006, 09:02 PM

blimey i aint anonymous anymore. lol

and who are you then?

My name is really Pete Smith and sorry about your eggstra special night but we'll have a yoke about it all when we meet up at prestayn over a CD or 2 :hihi: :lol: :lol:

Modculture

17-03-2006, 05:41 PM

If you want to hear 60s soul, played to a contemporary crowd and packing out a venue, try the Pow Wow Club.

Our DJs and guests mix up soul, R&B (original variety), boogaloo, funk and beat - and it works.

None of the stuffiness of the northern scene, no record stalls and all that nonsense - just people having a good time dancing to great music.

Asha

17-03-2006, 07:20 PM

I am about to take over a prime location bar in the centre of chesterfield, called the loft, it is across from the donut carpark across from the busiest night club in town, we have just been granted a 24hr license, and the interior is all wood (wood dance floor) we have a small PA for live acts,

iam looking to establish a once a month or event night for motown and northern soul, i know the scene is very popular and love the music, iam a young promoter and will be running the promo operation of the bar, we will be marketing the bar as an indie bar playing live bands etc... so we will be marketing at an older generation, iam looking for someone who is intreasted in promoting a northern soul night at my bar for a percentage of the bar take, or if you can sell enough advanced tickets, a door split or bar/door split, some deal anyhow..get in touch.

I used to work at Libertys night club and a few years ago a woman called stella used to run Soul nights there and they where packed, we are only a 200 cap venue and we have a lush courtyard at the back, would be brill in the summer, get in touch.

Mark

souldave

17-03-2006, 08:11 PM

dimitrysoul

07-04-2006, 11:27 AM

For those that love the classic soul tracks of the 70's, 80's and 90's and a smattering of John Legend, Angie Stone, Kem etc...you are in for a treat. Tequila (on West Street, Sheffield) will be hosting a brand new weekly night called suprisingly The Friday Soul Sessions.
If youve been to the Big Tree soul sessions or enjoyed the Tom Tom Club at Takapuna in the past you'll recognise the DJs supplying the quality music for this event.
Gary Senior and Dimitry Soul are both huge Soul Music supporters and are back together again for the first time in years.

Starts Friday 7th April

souldave

07-04-2006, 06:38 PM