the bbc have launched this years sports personality of the year
i was thinking about voting - but who for ????????



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_and_radio/sports_personality_2004/4020389.stm

How about a certain James Toseland from Kiveton? He only achieved the minor feat of becoming the World Superbikes Champion 2004 (http://www.superbike-news.co.uk/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=2664&z=1)

As for the suggestions from the BBC Andrew Flintoff, Kelly Holmes, Amir Khan, Colin Montgomerie, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Matthew Pinsent, Wayne Rooney, Tanni Grey Thompson and Bradley Wiggins

Ummm... apart from Bradley Wiggins (awesome sportsman!) is there a single individual higher achiever there?

Why on earth is Wayne Rooney in that list?

Originally posted by Tony
Why on earth is Wayne Rooney in that list?

For a laugh :P

My vote goes to Amir Kahn. He's my age and he won a silver medal in boxing.

I can remember watching the final at work with some people shouting "Go on Amir!" :P

Good lad :thumbsup:

wayne rooney is a judus scum ******
and it gives me immense pleasure looking down on him. I hope he breaks his legs!
(guess who i support)

Originally posted by littled
wayne rooney is a judus scum ******
and it gives me immense pleasure looking down on him. I hope he breaks his legs!
(guess who i support)
now i think there is no need for that at all, regardless of what team you support!!

Personally I'd go for Freddie Flintoft. His game has improved dramatically and alongside Steve Harmison has had a superb summer.

I think they ought to aware a post-humous award to the late, great Emlyn Hughes who fought to the end. A lovely personality in a sport somewhat lacking in personalities.

I think this competition is pointless. Surely someone who's a personality is someone you would enjoy spending time with. They usually pick someone who can't string a decent sentence together. I understand that the biggest sport in Britain is fishing. Are there any fishermen on the shortlist?

How about that big fat darts bloke. Crikey I'll bet a night on the tiles with him would be hilarious.

Is this just a competition dealing with the 4 sports which the BBC can afford to sponsor themselves! I find it all a bit shallow. As mentioned earlier, the motorcycle guy, who's fans blocked the phones, when he's won the world championshops. They didn't even enter him in the competition 'cause he's win and it wasn't a sport which the BBC covered. That was a complete scandal.

Kelly Holmes gets my vote

Originally posted by Ousetunes
I think they ought to aware a post-humous award to the late, great Emlyn Hughes who fought to the end. A lovely personality in a sport somewhat lacking in personalities.

Agree with the lack of personalities in the sport, that's why I like Jose Mourinio as he has plenty about him in his interviews, give the award to Alan Shearer, it may give him a personalitiy.

Originally posted by Tony
How about a certain James Toseland from Kiveton? He only achieved the minor feat of becoming the World Superbikes Champion 2004 (http://www.superbike-news.co.uk/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=2664&z=1)

As for the suggestions from the BBC Andrew Flintoff, Kelly Holmes, Amir Khan, Colin Montgomerie, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Matthew Pinsent, Wayne Rooney, Tanni Grey Thompson and Bradley Wiggins

Ummm... apart from Bradley Wiggins (awesome sportsman!) is there a single individual higher achiever there?

Why on earth is Wayne Rooney in that list?

Because he single-handedly hauled England through to the Quarter-finals of Euro 2004 (as unfashionable as it is to say that, what with it being witch-hunt time on the kid). Rooney proved himself to be without doubt the most talented player England have had since Gazza.

Superbikes is a sport that definitely deserves more coverage, and Toseland is a worthy contender. However, legend has it that each year the angling community get together and batter the phones to try and get their man selected; only the "right" sort of votes are counted by the BBC, apparently...

Originally posted by muddycoffee
I think this competition is pointless.

Well I figure it will get some good ratings, but they could rename it for the merit of individual achievements and not personality...

After all it is accomplishments they are there for...

I really think of the top 3 that Andrew Flintoff or Matthew Pinsent would have been a more worthy winner.

Flintoff is currently the best all rounder in world cricket, and is as good as Botham was at his very best (people tend to remember Botham's highlights and forget that he wasn't amazing all the time)

Pinsent is quite possibly the best rower in the world (or was at the olympics)

Kelly Holmes did really well this year, but she's not the sort of once in a generation that the other two are.

Originally posted by Yodameister

Kelly Holmes did really well this year, but she's not the sort of once in a generation that the other two are.

The next time a female British athlete becomes a double Olympic middle distance champion, i'll back you up 100% :)

Originally posted by ANVIL
The next time a female British athlete becomes a double Olympic middle distance champion, i'll back you up 100% :)

By once in a generation I don't mean once in a generation British.

Andy Flintoff is the best all rounder to emerge for at least 25 years.
There have been athletes who have done equally well or better than Kelly Holmes (eg Carl Lewis, Marion Jones)

Originally posted by Yodameister
By once in a generation I don't mean once in a generation British.

Andy Flintoff is the best all rounder to emerge for at least 25 years.
There have been athletes who have done equally well or better than Kelly Holmes (eg Carl Lewis, Marion Jones)

Sorry, as the discussion was about Sports Personality of the Year Award, i automatically assumed that we were talking about British athletes (Carl Lewis, Marion Jones etc. would only be eligible for the overseas award). i don't know much about cricket, but Kelly's a winner and has the medals to prove it.

in terms of british athletes (which one must be to win the award), pinsent's achievements sit alongside redgrave's and flintoff's credentials apprently sit alongside botham's, but kelly's acheivement has no equal, so in regards to the original TOR, kelly would appear to be the real once in a generation athlete.

Originally posted by ANVIL
Sorry, as the discussion was about Sports Personality of the Year Award, i automatically assumed that we were talking about British athletes (Carl Lewis, Marion Jones etc. would only be eligible for the overseas award). i don't know much about cricket, but Kelly's a winner and has the medals to prove it.

in terms of british athletes (which one must be to win the award), pinsent's achievements sit alongside redgrave's and flintoff's credentials apprently sit alongside botham's, but kelly's acheivement has no equal, so in regards to the original TOR, kelly would appear to be the real once in a generation athlete.

I'm lost!

I guess it is difficult comparing different sports with each other. The reason I say that Pinsent or Flintoff were better nominations was that their world stature in their particular sports was higher.

There's obviously no right or wrong answer though - athletes and footballers always have an advantage because the general public tends to know more about those sports.

The whole award needs renaming to just Sportsperson of the Year. Using the word personality in reference to some of the nominees is a joke.
Bring back Frank Bruno!!!

I think the reason they call it Sports Personality is to stop all the arguments about who is more worthy in terms of achievements when it is difficult to compare different sports.